He’s been on our screens making us laugh for years, most recently in Colin From Accounts, but in this chat Patrick Brammall unpacks one of his more meaty roles to date… Being a first time dad!  Patty’s path to parenthood is a little unique with him and his wife Harriet Dyer adopting a baby girl in 2021 (Harriet is also co-creator/co-star of Colin From Accounts). Patty talks us through this experience, how it’s fundamentally changed him, his perspectives and priorities. And given his daughter was just 2 and a half when we recorded this, Patty is the first to admit that he really is still trying to figure this dadding thing out!!

Patty is so honest about the ups and the downs, his hopes and fears, the sleep deprivation and the toll it’s taking on his face, and how he is still coming to terms with the fact that his time will never be his own again (well, not for the next 15 years or so). Patty, like all of us, is attempting this parenting Rubik's cube on the fly, and sometimes it's working, and sometimes it’s not!!

And if that wasn’t enough, we have a brief musical interlude from a neighbour. This episode has got it all!

Huge thanks to Patty (and Harriet) for sharing this really personal story, and for carving time out of a pretty jammed schedule to chat with us.

In Australia Seasons 1 and 2 of Colin From Accounts is on Binge - and it’s really really great. If you have not seen it you really should watch it, like tonight.

You can drop us a line anytime at howotherdadsdad.com - we love hearing from you guys. Thanks for listening!

*Producer Note - Despite anything Hamish says to the contrary, all music contained within this episode is fully licensed for all necessary exploitation and distribution, including the music which the neighbour started playing through Hamish’s Bluetooth speaker inadvertently. 

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“I wasn’t going to miss the podcast just because I was slightly paralysed” - It’s one of the better quotes we’ve had on the show! But it neatly sums up the unassuming yet unflappable nature of Dr Harry, who unless you were on a 12 month silent retreat in 2018, you’d know was the cave diving anaesthetist who helped in the against all odds rescue of the Wild Boars soccer team trapped in a flooded Thai cave. Dr Harry is in a unique position to talk about the art of risk taking, and it’s something he’s taken a keen interest in since that phenomenal rescue, especially how it relates to kids. 

In this episode Dr Harry very kindly shares with Hame his thoughts on teaching kids about risk mitigating rather than risk taking, building resilience and overcoming fear, on the generational changes in parenting that he’s noticed and reflecting on what he might have done differently as a dad… it’s a super wide ranging chat - one that we were so, so lucky to have… not least because a few days out from us recording with Dr Harry, he’d been diving down a very very deep cave and had a little run in with the diver’s constant nemesis, the bends. Thankfully it all worked out OK! But I think you’ll agree, it was some Gold Standard Guest Commitment to turn up to our humble podcast, for sure!

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Dr Richard Harris SC OAM & 2019 joint Australian of the Year (nice title, right?!) has got lots of great stuff going on...

His 3 series podcast REAL RISK is awesome. It’s got some amazing chats with people who manage some pretty massive risks  (the saturation diving episode is so good)

He’s written a couple of great KIDS BOOKS on different ways to be brave and kind, called Alfie the Brave & Alfie the Kind.

The book he and Craig Challen wrote AGAINST ALL ODDS about the cave rescue is also amazing

AND very excitingly he’s working on a feature documentary called Deeper, directed by Jennifer Peedom, produced by Stranger than Fiction and distributed by Madman. The film follows the story of Harry and his mates attempting a dangerous and unprecedented dive in a remote (and very deep!) NZ cave - it’s out next year and we can’t wait!

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He’s helped create some of Australia’s most memorable comedic characters, battled tirelessly to elevate Football (the proper round ball kind!) to the upper echelons of Australian sport, and most importantly, he’s the father to 2 (now adult) sons.

But before looking at his own dadding, Santo takes us back to Melbourne in the 1960s and 70s, painting a vivid picture of the multi-generational approach to parenting that he experienced growing up in a migrant family, especially the huge role his grandfather played. Things were a touch looser back then!

With his own kids now young adults, Santo is able to explain to us how his approach to parenting has changed over the years. But he’s come to think there are a couple universal elements, and he borrowed them from some advice the late, great John Clarke gave on comedy writing. John said audiences like two, seemingly incompatible things… consistency and variation. Santo reckons kids are the same. You need the consistency to keep turning up, be rock solid and always there for them, but the ability to vary your approach based on what they are presenting, what they are going through and who your kid is.  Pretty bloody smart if you ask us!!  

Santo shares a bunch of gems like these, and of course some great stories and behind the scenes moments from The Late Show and The Castle (you’ll get some of Dennis Denuto’s origin story!)

Santo is super honest, humble and doesn’t waste time trying to convince us he has all the answers - as he says, parenting is an adventure and sometimes you just gotta go with it! But he is pretty steadfast about one thing… you really should force your kid to learn an instrument! 

Huge thanks to Santo for making the time to chat, we absolutely loved it.

Huge thanks to you for listening - You can drop us a line anytime at howotherdadsdad.com - we love hearing from you guys.

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As one of Australia’s great contemporary artists, Ben’s compassion and humanity is evident in all his work, and so is his willingness to self-examine. So perhaps unsurprisingly in his chat with Hamish, Ben opens up about what shaped him in his own childhood, his thoughts on masculinity, the shockwave of sadness that hit him recently when his adult son moved out of home, and the unwelcome thoughts of mortality that followed. 

Ben also gives us some fantastic practical hacks on how to encourage creativity in our kids, why it’s so important to keep doing it beyond just the cute years, and some great drawing games to play when you’re out to dinner with the kids. He also revisits memories of the magic and mischief his father would create for him and his brothers as a kid with the secret lives of gnomes that lived in their house (and inspired some of his latest work). And perhaps in a world first (for reasons that become self-evident) Ben gives Hamish a drawing lesson on a podcast. We promise it works out (sort of).

Massive thanks to Ben for having us over to his studio in the Southern Highlands. His honesty and vulnerability make for a heartfelt and wisdom filled chat.

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As a prolific co-creator of Australian comedy classics like Upper Middle Bogan, Wayne is probably more comfortable bringing to life hilarious, and hilariously flawed characters, rather than reflecting on his own life. But we know Wayne to be so thoroughly kind, thoughtful and wise that we really put the screws on him to come and have a chat. Thankfully he agreed! (mostly due to a nudge from his wonderful partner in life and work, Robyn Butler)

Wayne talks beautifully about becoming a stepdad, his initial fears of having another child and the transformative effect that working on some of your own issues can have on your parenting. Wayne also shares some stuff from his childhood involving domestic violence perpetrated by his father, and the huge ripple effect it has had on his life. It’s pretty heavy stuff, but Wayne manages to explain it with such amazing insightfulness and honesty, reflecting on how he continues to work through its enduring impact to this day.

We are so thankful to Wayne for sharing this part of his story, as it’s not something he has ever talked about publicly. But just like Wayne himself, this chat is so much more than that, and Wayne’s wisdom as a father and partner means that every single person will take something away from this really profound chat.

The chilling statistics…

Unfortunately the violence that Wayne talks about is not a rare thing and the horrors of male violence and domestic abuse are incredibly far reaching, taking a huge toll on our community. In Australia, a staggering 1 in 4 women have experienced physical or sexual violence, or both, perpetrated by a partner (Source). The generational impacts on children involved are massive, and for the victims the outcomes are tragic. In 2023 almost 50% of all women killed in Australia were murdered by their current or former partner (source). 

If you know somebody that is suffering from domestic violence and needs help, 1800Respect.org.au is a good place to start.

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1800RESPECT is the national domestic, family, and sexual violence counselling, information and support service.

If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic or family violence, you can call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732, text 0458 737 732 or visit the website for online chat and video call services:

• Available 24/7: Call, text or online chat
• Mon-Fri, 9am-5pm AEST (except national public holidays): Video call (no appointment needed)

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Finally, after waaaaaay too long, Season 3 of HODD is here. Well, actually… not just yet. It’s here next Friday, September 13. But boy, is it close!! To wet your appetite, here is a little taste of what’s to come this season. We’ve been lucky to chat with some absolutely wonderful guest dads who will make you laugh, reflect, reminisce and maybe even a little teary. It’s got it all!

Big thanks to our great friends at HERTZ for coming back on board as our exclusive sponsor for Season 3, and because of that HODD listeners can go to hertz.com.au/hodd to get an awesome & exclusive discount on your next car hire. (T&Cs apply)

And thanks to you all for listening! We're super excited for another season!

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It’s back! The episode where Hamish tears up the HODD rule book, by going over an hour AND talking to an expert. And not just any expert, but leading behavioural paediatrician at the Royal Children’s Hospital, Dr Billy Garvey. Wild, right? 

In the sequel to his awesome Season 1 Episode, Dr Billy has been beyond generous with his time and has picked some choice moments from Season 2 to unpack with Hame and look at the clinical evidence behind the parenting gut work. And then Billy further builds on this to provide some amazing practical advice for a multitude of different scenarios that we commonly face as parents. 

But here’s the heartening thing, and this has come up time and time again this season… Billy reaffirms that some of the most important things we can do as parents is in fact the simple stuff. Listen to them. Love them. Be led by them. Not always as easy as it sounds in the rough and tumble of daily life, but nonetheless, something simple we can all strive for each and every day. 

Massive thanks to Dr Billy for his generosity. He’s a busy guy (and new father to a second child!!🥂) So to spend so much time applying his wealth of knowledge for our benefit is deeply appreciated. And you can get way more of Billy’s knowhow on his very own podcast called Pop Culture Parenting. Check it out, it’s bloody great! And also @drbillygarvey on insta. 

And that’s Season Two! We’ve had a blast knocking it out… It really is a gift spending time with our guests and soaking up their passion, positivity and wisdom. Huge thanks to them for their generosity, honesty and vulnerability.

Thanks to all you guys for listening every week and for getting in touch with your stories and suggestions. It’s continually amazing to hear how this pod has connected with people, often in the most unexpected ways.

Special thanks to our creative team - Darcy, Tom Cardy and Tey Vandenburg. 

And of course, mostly thanks to all the Mums!! The brains behind most operations, certainly in our respective households! For us, there is no such thing as dadding without you!!

Hopefully we’ll see ya next season! 

Hame and Tim xx 

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Mindset coach to some of the world’s finest athletes, Ben Crowe reflects on his dadding journey so far. Given Ben is used to helping other people discover their story rather than delving into and analysing his own, we are really grateful to him for his openness and honesty, in what was a fascinating chat with Hame. 

Ben is the first to admit, like all of us, he’s continually making mistakes as a parent, and that putting all his professional knowledge into practice as a dad is far easier said than done. However, as someone who can expertly distil simple lessons from complex philosophies, Ben has some amazing insights to offer and some beautifully accessible and practical advice that we can all take something from. 

And these days Ben isn’t just helping people win Wimbledon… anyone can rediscover their mojo via his app, aptly called Mojo.  Check it out!

Big thanks to Ben for chatting with us. He’s an in-demand guy, so we really appreciate his time and wisdom.

This is the penultimate episode for Season 2 - and for our wild rule breaking finale we are lucky enough to have back behavioural paediatrician, Dr. Billy Garvey, who will be revisiting some previous episodes with his expert eye, or rather ear… and brain. It’s the cheat sheet ep! Don’t miss it.

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And big thanks to HERTZ - Our Hertz and Merch comp is still running - for your chance to win a Polestar EV for the weekend and some super exclusive How Other Dads Dad Merch head to hertz.com.au/hoddev - Terms and conditions apply and are available at the website, entries close 4 December, 2023.  Thanks to Hertz for making it all happen.

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Craig Foster - former Socceroo captain, legendary sports broadcaster, social justice champion… but his most important job?  You guessed it… Good 'ol Dad!

As a compassionate and thoughtful leader who spends much of his time helping those who don't have a voice, Craig talks about why justice and fairness are core tenets of his and how this informs his parenting. Fozz also discusses shepherding his kids though the teenage years and the almost comical lengths he’s gone to keep a watchful eye. And as a leading advocate in the multicultural and refugee space, he speaks quite beautifully about the commonality created by parenting, and that when you strip things back, what we all indisputably share as parents is a deep desire for our kids to be safe, happy and loved. We told you he was thoughtful!

Craig’s CV is long, varied and representative of his desire to make a positive impact. He’s got an AM for humanitarian services, nominated as Australian of the year, a member of The Australian Multicultural society, an Adjunct Professor of Sport and Social Responsibility and an author. Oh, and 2022 he was named Father of the Year, which as he describes to Hamish, he views as an opportunity to advocate for kids and parents in the multicultural community and the huge benefit that father figures can have mentoring kids who are not their own, something that Craig does a lot of himself.

Huge thanks to Fozz for coming on and talking so honestly, passionately and with such thoughtfulness. What a treat for us.  And what a wonderful leader to have in our community

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Russel Howcroft has been talking to Australians about how they are sold things for years on the much loved TV show Gruen - Now he lets us in on the secret of how he sells things to his kids! (Hint: like any good client pitch, it’s more guiding, less telling

In a free ranging chat that follows the whims of Russ’s very active mind, he explores with Hame how his own upbringing influences the choices he now makes as a father, how he has actively fostered creativity in his kids, and why it can be scary to do so. He explains his devotion to instilling confidence in his kids, and creating the freedom to make their own choices (and their own mistakes!). He also revisits times when he was a very busy corporate guy, and how with the benefit of hindsight, he views the perpetual challenge of balancing work and life.

And Russ also finishes with a big long list. It’s a bit like his version of (Everybody’s Free) to Wear Sunscreen, but on the way he parents.  Maybe we can put it to music one day! His final point is perhaps his best.  We teach our kids how to love - so make sure you do it right!

With wife Kate, Russ is a parent to 3 adult children. Other than on occasion Shunning Hamish - Russ is best known as a longtime panellist on Gruen (and previously Gruen Transfer), and he is co-host of Melbourne’s top rating breakfast radio show, Ross and Russ on 3AW. He’s had a long and successful career as a business leader, is the author of 3 books, and is the chair of the Australian Film Television and Radio School and of the Jim Stynes Foundation.  Go Russ!

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And GO HERTZ!  Thanks to Hertz, we’ve got a competition for you to enter.  For your chance to win one of 5 weekend hire packages for a Polestar EV and some very exclusive HODD merch, head to hertz.com.au/hoddev.  Terms and Conditions available at the website. Entries close 4 December 2023.  Thanks again to Hertz!

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Health and fitness industry expert and entrepreneur Sam Wood has a beautifully honest chat with Hame about his dadding journey.  

From what’s like to begin your dadding with a 9 year old step daughter, to then only eight short years later having 4 daughters, Sam shares with Hame the struggles he’s had learning on the job with a teenager, how he tries to instil adventurousness and positivity into his kids each day and how the death of his mother when he was a teenager completely reframed the relationship with his own father. Sam also recounts how the birth of their 4th daughter was not straightforward and how the resulting lengthy hospital stay affected him and the family.

Sam speaks openly, honestly and without pretence, and his positivity makes him a joy to listen to.  If you only think of Sam as an ex Bachelor contestant, prepare to have your perceptions changed. He’s a man committed to being a better dad, but knows only too well it takes work and it’s not easy!

Big thanks to Sam for taking the time to chat. You can find his podcast, The Wood Life, helping people live a happier, healthier life here on Apple or on Spotify.

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ALSO - very exciting news…  Thanks to our sponsor HERTZ -  we’ve got a competition!  For your chance to win one of 5 weekend hire packages for a Polestar EV and some very exclusive HODD merch, head to hertz.com.au/hoddev.  Terms and Conditions available at the website. Entries close 4 December 2023.  Thanks again to Hertz!

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