Bell Curve

Jason Yanowitz and Mike Ippolito | Blockworks

Hosted by Jason Yanowitz and Mike Ippolito, Bell Curve is for degens stuck in the middle of the bell curve.

  • 1 hour 8 minutes
    2026 Predictions with Michael Anderson and Vance Spencer

    This week, Michael and Vance joined the show to recap everything that happened in 2025, and give their predictions for 2026. They cover the CLARITY Act, stablecoin growth, prediction markets, and more. Enjoy!Thanks for tuning in!

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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Introduction

    (3:05) 2025 Recap

    (13:25) The CLARITY Act's Impact

    (26:07) Is This the End of the Four Year Cycle?

    (30:30) Stablecoin Growth in 2026

    (41:21) The Crypto VC Dynamic

    (52:30) Outlook on Prediction Markets

    (57:09) 2026 Macro Outlook

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    19 December 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    Fixing Crypto’s Broken Token Structures | Roundup

    This week, Mippo, Myles, and Xavier sat down to discuss recent events in crypto governance, including Uniswap’s unification plan, Aave’s internal conflict, and Circle’s acquisition of Axelar’s core developers. They dive into token and equity misalignment, investor protections, regulatory challenges, valuation implications, and potential future structures for decentralized protocols.


    Thanks for tuning in!

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    Katana directs chain revenue back to DeFi users for consistently higher yields.


    It starts with VaultBridge, which turns bridged assets into yield streams that back a perpetually funded real yield, boosting rewards for DeFi users. Katana is pioneering Productive TVL, assets actually being used in DeFi and reinforces this with Chain-owned Liquidity, permanent liquidity the chain controls.


    Stop sleeping on your bags:

    https://app.katana.network/?utm_source=BW-Pod

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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Introduction

    (4:14) The Token vs Equity Dilemma

    (28:11) Katana Ad

    (28:39) The Perfect Formula

    (38:50) The Axelar Situation

    (52:03) Katana Ad

    (52:41) Corporate Token Launches & Token Buybacks

    (59:43) Closing Comments

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    19 December 2025, 9:00 am
  • 1 hour 19 minutes
    The Return of Corporate Blockchains | Roundup

    This week, Mippo, Myles, and Xavier sat down to discuss the resurgence of corporate blockchains, tracing their evolution from early “blockchain not Bitcoin” initiatives to today’s enterprise adoption. They analyze the various blockchain models, design tradeoffs, regulatory and strategic factors, and how companies like Stripe and Robinhood approach blockchain integration, and governance.


    Thanks for tuning in!

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    Katana directs chain revenue back to DeFi users for consistently higher yields.


    It starts with VaultBridge, which turns bridged assets into yield streams that back a perpetually funded real yield, boosting rewards for DeFi users. Katana is pioneering Productive TVL, assets actually being used in DeFi and reinforces this with Chain-owned Liquidity, permanent liquidity the chain controls.


    Stop sleeping on your bags:

    https://app.katana.network/?utm_source=BW-Pod

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    Follow Myles: https://x.com/MylesOneil

    Follow Xavier: https://x.com/0xave

    Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_


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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Introduction

    (5:40) The Origins of Enterprise Blockchain

    (16:11) Katana Ad

    (16:39) The Different Types of Blockchains

    (33:22) Katana Ad

    (34:00) Design Tradeoffs

    (40:51) What if Corporate Chains Win?

    (1:07:12) Path Dependency

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Myles, Xavier and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    11 December 2025, 9:00 am
  • 1 hour 13 minutes
    Platforms in Crypto: The Next Phase of Crypto Growth | Roundup

    This week, Mippo, Myles, and Xavier sat down to discuss platforms in crypto. They define what a platform is, explore Ethereum and Solana as tech platforms versus monetary assets, and debate the merits of product-led vs. developer-led growth go-to-market strategies. They also dive into the challenges of building and scaling ecosystems, and give their thoughts on where true platform value resides in crypto.


    Thanks for tuning in!

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    Katana directs chain revenue back to DeFi users for consistently higher yields.


    It starts with VaultBridge, which turns bridged assets into yield streams that back a perpetually funded real yield, boosting rewards for DeFi users. Katana is pioneering Productive TVL, assets actually being used in DeFi and reinforces this with Chain-owned Liquidity, permanent liquidity the chain controls.


    Stop sleeping on your bags:

    https://app.katana.network/?utm_source=BW-Pod

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    Follow Myles: https://x.com/MylesOneil

    Follow Xavier: https://x.com/0xave

    Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_


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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Introduction

    (3:25) Defining a Platform

    (12:06) Katana Ad

    (12:35) Is Ethereum a Tech Platform?

    (19:18) Product Led Platforms vs Developer Platforms

    (32:56) Ethereum Foundation vs Solana Foundation

    (39:04) Katana Ad

    (39:41) Go-to-market Strategies Today

    (52:35) Where Should Teams Focus?

    (1:01:41) True Platforms In Crypto

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    5 December 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 59 minutes 5 seconds
    Breaking Down Uniswap’s Fee Switch and UNIfication Proposal | Hayden Adams & Jesse Walden

    In this episode, we’re joined by Hayden Adams and Jesse Walden to discuss Uniswap’s “fee switch”. We cover the proposed “UNIfication” structure, protocol fee mechanics, DUNA legal framework, front-end fee removal, investor alignment, retroactive token burns, and the proposal’s potential industry impact.


    Thanks for tuning in!

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    Resources


    Uniswap’s UNIfication Proposal: https://gov.uniswap.org/t/unification-proposal/25881


    Establishing Uniswap as “DUNI”: https://gov.uniswap.org/t/governance-proposal-establish-uniswap-governance-as-duni-a-wyoming-duna/25770

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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Introduction

    (1:09) Unisocks Lore

    (2:44) The Gensler Years

    (14:17) The UNIfication Proposal

    (25:00) Turning Off Frontend Fees

    (37:52) Uniswap Design & Investor Alignment

    (47:38) Retroactive Token Burn

    (51:14) Could Uniswap Labs Ever Go Public?

    (55:42) Token Value Accrual

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    26 November 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 51 minutes 12 seconds
    Revenue Meta, RWA Looping & Uniswap Fee Switch | Roundup

    This week, we break down the violent selloff across equities and crypto, how real revenue, institutional capital, and RWA-looping are reshaping which assets survive. We also discuss the rise of institutional lending markets, Uniswap’s long-awaited fee switch proposal, and why retail-driven tokenomics are dead while fundamentals and sustainable business models take over. Enjoy!

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    The Canton Network is the only public, permissionless blockchain built for institutional finance—combining privacy, compliance, and scalability. It enables real-time, secure synchronization and settlement across asset classes on a shared, interoperable infrastructure. It’s the link between the promise of blockchain and the power of global finance, making finance flow as it should. 


    Learn more about the Canton Network here: ⁠https://www.canton.network/?utm_sourc… 

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    Follow Michael: https://x.com/im_manderson   

    Follow Vance: https://x.com/pythianism 

    Follow Mike: https://x.com/mikeippolito_  


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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Introduction

    (2:07) Are Markets Cooked?

    (8:28) Bell Curve Announcement

    (11:08) Canton Ad

    (11:53) On-Chain Lending Markets

    (18:52) Institutional vs Retail Audience

    (23:34) The Future of RWAs

    (27:43) Canton Ad

    (28:26) Uniswap Fee Switch Proposal

    (39:05) Are DATs Dead?

    (41:55) Lessons for the Future

    (50:40) Final Thoughts

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    14 November 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 1 hour 8 minutes
    Inside Crypto’s Liquidity Crunch | Romeo Ravagnan & Sonya Kim

    In this episode, we’re joined by Romeo Ravagnan and Sonya Kim from 3F Labs to discuss the $30 billion open-interest wipeout, Binance’s margin issues, and the collapse of Stream Finance’s xUSD. They unpack pooled versus isolated risk models in lending, liquidity dynamics, and emerging strategies for leveraging RWAs onchain.Thanks for tuning in!

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    The Canton Network is the only public, permissionless blockchain built for institutional finance— combining privacy, compliance, and scalability. It enables real-time, secure synchronization and settlement across asset classes on a shared, interoperable infrastructure. It’s the link between the promise of blockchain and the power of global finance, making finance flow as it should. 


    Learn more about the Canton Network here: https://www.canton.network/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=cantonprivacy&utm_id=blockworks

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    Katana directs chain revenue back to DeFi users for consistently higher yields.


    It starts with VaultBridge, which turns bridged assets into yield streams that back a perpetually funded real yield, boosting rewards for DeFi users. Katana is pioneering Productive TVL, assets actually being used in DeFi and reinforces this with Chain-owned Liquidity, permanent liquidity the chain controls.


    Stop sleeping on your bags:

    https://app.katana.network/?utm_source=BW-Pod

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    Follow 3F Labs: https://x.com/3FLabs

    Follow Romeo: https://x.com/3f_romeo

    Follow Sonya: https://x.com/sonyasunkim

    Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_


    Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3R1D1D9

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    Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/

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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Introduction

    (1:31) Crypto's Open Interest Wipeout

    (15:54) Ads (Canton & Katana)

    (17:02) Stream Finance and xUSD

    (26:22) Isolated vs Pooled Risk Models

    (50:34) Ads (Canton & Katana)

    (51:48) RWA Strategies

    (1:03:57) Bringing New Strategies Onchain

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    7 November 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 30 minutes 9 seconds
    Crypto Finally Goes Mainstream | Roundup

    In this solo Roundup, Mippo discusses JPMorgan’s pivot, the disruptive potential of stablecoins, new spot ETFs, the sustained growth of prediction markets, Trump pardoning CZ, and Western Union’s upcoming stablecoin.


    Thanks for tuning in!

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    Resources


    Stablecoin Linked Cards - Way Better Secured Credit Cards: https://x.com/sytaylor/status/1982474892114096349

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    The Canton Network is the only public, permissionless blockchain built for institutional finance— combining privacy, compliance, and scalability. It enables real-time, secure synchronization and settlement across asset classes on a shared, interoperable infrastructure. It’s the link between the promise of blockchain and the power of global finance, making finance flow as it should. 


    Learn more about the Canton Network here: https://www.canton.network/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=cantonprivacy&utm_id=blockworks

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    Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_


    Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3R1D1D9

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    Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3cpKZXH


    Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/

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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Introduction

    (2:23) Jamie Dimon Admits He Was Wrong

    (4:34) The GENIUS Act's Impact

    (10:52) Canton Ad

    (11:37) New Spot ETFs Launch

    (15:03) Prediction Markets Continue to Grow

    (18:59) Will Binance Expand Into the US?

    (23:36) Canton Ad

    (24:19) Can General Purpose L1s Keep Up?

    (27:42) Western Union's Stablecoin

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    31 October 2025, 4:00 pm
  • 34 minutes 31 seconds
    The Token Revolution | Roundup

    This week, Mippo dives into current crypto market sentiment, bullish macro trends, potential 2026 market shifts, rising barriers to entry in crypto sectors, and consolidation among exchanges. He also unpacks Ribbit Capital’s thesis linking AI and crypto, Coinbase’s acquisition of Echo, and renewed optimism for U.S. crypto regulation through the CLARITY Act.


    Thanks for tuning in!

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    Resources

    Bitcoin OI Drops: Forward Returns Analysis: https://x.com/valterebelo/status/1981356384894451752

    Trump Pardons CZ: https://blockworks.co/news/trump-pardons-changpeng-zhao

    Ribbit Capital: Token Letter: https://www.ribbitcap.com/knowledge

    Coinbase Acquires Echo: https://blockworks.co/news/coinbase-acquires-echo

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    Katana directs chain revenue back to DeFi users for consistently higher yields.


    It starts with VaultBridge, which turns bridged assets into yield streams that back a perpetually funded real yield, boosting rewards for DeFi users. Katana is pioneering Productive TVL, assets actually being used in DeFi and reinforces this with Chain-owned Liquidity, permanent liquidity the chain controls.


    Stop sleeping on your bags:

    https://app.katana.network/?utm_source=BW-Pod

    --

    Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_

    Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3R1D1D9

    Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/3pQTfmD

    Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3cpKZXH


    Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/

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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Introduction

    (0:48) Market Outlook

    (3:40) How Will Markets Look in 2026?

    (11:40) Katana Ad

    (12:09) The Next Wave of Infrastructure

    (13:37) The Token Revolution

    (23:29) Katana Ad

    (24:06) Coinbase Acquires Echo

    (30:32) The CLARITY Act

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    24 October 2025, 4:00 pm
  • 59 minutes 46 seconds
    Gold Hits All-Time Highs, Stablecoin Adoption, and Historic Liquidations | Roundup

    On this week’s Roundup, we discuss gold’s new highs, and the implications this has for Bitcoin and crypto markets. We also unpack institutional crypto adoption, stablecoin-driven innovation, market liquidations, CeFi vs. DeFi resilience, and rising interest in prediction markets and tokenized financial systems.

    Thanks for tuning in!

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    Katana directs chain revenue back to DeFi users for consistently higher yields.

    It starts with VaultBridge, which turns bridged assets into yield streams that back a perpetually funded real yield, boosting rewards for DeFi users. Katana is pioneering Productive TVL, assets actually being used in DeFi and reinforces this with Chain-owned Liquidity, permanent liquidity the chain controls.


    Stop sleeping on your bags:

    https://app.katana.network/?utm_source=BW-Pod

    --

    The Canton Network is the only public, permissionless blockchain built for institutional finance— combining privacy, compliance, and scalability. It enables real-time, secure synchronization and settlement across asset classes on a shared, interoperable infrastructure. It’s the link between the promise of blockchain and the power of global finance, making finance flow as it should. 


    Learn more about the Canton Network here: https://www.canton.network/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=shownotes&utm_campaign=cantonprivacy&utm_id=blockworks

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    Follow Michael: https://twitter.com/im_manderson

    Follow Vance: https://twitter.com/pythianism

    Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_


    Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3R1D1D9

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    Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/


    Join the Bell Curve Telegram group: https://t.me/+nzyxAvQ0Xxc3YTEx

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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Intro

    (1:16) Gold Hits All Time High

    (16:04) Katana Ad

    (16:34) Stablecoin Adoptions Impact On Sentiment

    (29:05) Katana Canton Ad

    (30:20)  Historic Liquidations In Crypto Markets

    (49:45) Thoughts on Predictions Markets

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    17 October 2025, 7:11 pm
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    Bitcoin Seasonality, Capital Flows, and New Stablecoins | Roundup

    This week, we discuss Bitcoin’s seasonal trends, venture capital flows in crypto and AI, Flying Tulip’s $200M seed round, Keel’s debut on Solana, Stripe’s Open Issuance, and Cloudflare’s NET dollar.


    Thanks for tuning in!

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    Katana directs chain revenue back to DeFi users for consistently higher yields.


    It starts with VaultBridge, which turns bridged assets into yield streams that back a perpetually funded real yield, boosting rewards for DeFi users. Katana is pioneering Productive TVL, assets actually being used in DeFi and reinforces this with Chain-owned Liquidity, permanent liquidity the chain controls.


    Stop sleeping on your bags:

    https://app.katana.network/?utm_source=BW-Pod  

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    Follow Michael: https://twitter.com/im_manderson

    Follow Vance: https://twitter.com/pythianism

    Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_


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    Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/3pQTfmD

    Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3cpKZXH


    Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/


    Join the Bell Curve Telegram group: https://t.me/+nzyxAvQ0Xxc3YTEx

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    Timestamps:

    (0:00) Introduction

    (3:01) Bitcoin Seasonality

    (10:13) Capital Flows in Crypto vs AI

    (27:27) Katana Ad

    (27:56) Flying Tulip's Seed Round

    (36:50) Keel's Debut

    (46:02) Katana Ad

    (46:40) Stripe's Open Issuance

    (54:01) Cloudflare Introduces NET Dollar

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    Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

    3 October 2025, 4:00 pm
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