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In this episode of Don't Kill the Messenger, host Kevin Goetz interviews legendary producer Brian Grazer. As co-founder of Imagine Entertainment with Ron Howard, Grazer's films and television shows have earned 47 Oscar nominations and 242 Emmy nominations, with his movies grossing nearly $15 billion globally. Known for hits like A Beautiful Mind (which won him the Academy Award for Best Picture), Apollo 13, and Friday Night Lights. During the conversation, Grazer opens up about the power of curiosity, the secret to his 40-year partnership with Ron Howard, and the magic of connecting with audiences through emotionally resonant storytelling.

The Power of Curiosity (03:38)
Grazer shares how he built his career through "curiosity conversations" with industry legends, discussing his unique approach to meeting and talking with influential figures.

Finding Creative Purpose (10:59)
Grazer reflects on how watching E.T. transformed his understanding of cinema's emotional impact, inspiring him to create films that elevate audiences.

The Heart of Storytelling (13:13)
The producer discusses his philosophy that stories are designed to ignite emotion, and how he seeks projects that allow characters to achieve emotional transformation. Grazer believes that his greatest successes come from connecting to the soul of the material instead of merely making "business" decisions.

Building Imagine Entertainment (26:13)
The producer discusses his 40-year partnership with Ron Howard, explaining how their contrasting personalities and aligned values created a perfect collaboration.

Oscar Night Memories (29:42)
Grazer shares his Academy Award experience, starting with a surprising admission about Apollo 13's loss years earlier, and how his Best Picture win for A Beautiful Mind was a moment of redemption.

The Art of Human Connection (37:06)
Grazer discusses his two books, explaining how "A Curious Mind" explores curiosity as an engine. He shares how his second book, "Face to Face: The Art of Human Connection," was inspired by a profound interaction with his housekeeper.

Brian Grazer's remarkable career demonstrates the power of curiosity, emotional storytelling, and human connection in creating impactful entertainment. From his early days selling newspaper subscriptions to winning an Oscar for A Beautiful Mind, Grazer's journey exemplifies how maintaining humility, following one's instincts, and seeking deeper meaning in stories can lead to extraordinary success in Hollywood.

If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: Brian Grazer
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about Brian Grazer:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Grazer
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/briangrazer/
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004976/

For more information about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram: @KevinGoetz360
Linked In @Kevin Goetz
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In this episode of Don't Kill the Messenger, host Kevin Goetz interviews David Friendly, whose remarkable career transition from journalism to film production led to an Academy Award nomination for Best Picture with Little Miss Sunshine. David worked with industry giants like Ron Howard and Brian Grazer before establishing himself as a successful producer. His producing credits include Courage Under Fire, Dr. Dolittle, Big Momma's House, Laws of Attraction, and the hit USA Network series Queen of the South. In this conversation, Friendly shares candid stories about his career transition, the making of Little Miss Sunshine, lessons learned from his mentors, and his perspective on an ever-changing industry.

From Journalism to Hollywood: A Bold Career Change (06:12)
David Friendly reflects on his nine-year journalism career at Newsweek and the LA Times, where his coverage of the entertainment industry sparked his desire to make movies.

Backdraft and the Imagine Years (13:41)
Friendly talks about discovering Backdraft, which became his first major success. This marked the beginning of a successful tenure that included projects like My Girl and Kindergarten Cop.

Learning from Hollywood's Best (24:12)
Friendly shares how Ron Howard and Brian Grazer's mentorship continues to influence his producing decisions years later, with their voices still guiding him through difficult situations.

The Making of Little Miss Sunshine and an Oscar Nomination (32:02)
Friendly discusses Little Miss Sunshine, assembling an outstanding ensemble cast including Steve Carell, and the thrill of receiving an Academy Award nomination for Best Picture.

The Joy and Anxiety of Test Screenings (41:30)
Friendly offers unique insight into a producer's perspective on audience test screenings, describing the intense anxiety of waiting for audience reactions.

Producing in a Rapidly Changing Environment (45:24)
Friendly emphasizes the importance of adapting to changing markets, as demonstrated by his successful venture into television with Queen of the South.

Friendly's guiding philosophy of acceptance and gratitude offers wisdom for navigating a career in an ever-evolving business. Through all its iterations, from journalism to blockbuster films to streaming television, Friendly's career shows that success in Hollywood requires not just talent, but also the ability to learn from mentors, trust one's instincts, and the ability to adapt.

If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: David Friendly
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about David Friendly:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_T._Friendly
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidtfriendly/
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0295560/

For more information about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram: @KevinGoetz360
Linked In @Kevin Goetz

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In this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," host Kevin Goetz sits down with Gary Lucchesi, the acclaimed producer and former President of the Producer’s Guild of America. From his early days as a talent agent at William Morris to his tenure as President of Production at Paramount Pictures, Gary has been a driving force behind numerous hit films. As a producer, his credits include Primal Fear, Million Dollar Baby, The Lincoln Lawyer, and Runaway Bride, among many others. In this insightful conversation, Gary shares stories from his career, discussing the art of assembling the right talent, the power of test screenings, and his thoughts on the future of the film industry.

From William Morris to Hollywood Heavyweight (07:41)
Gary talks about his early days at the William Morris Agency and the lessons he learned from mentors like Stan Kamen. He shares stories about signing talent like Michelle Pfeiffer and Kevin Costner.

The Paramount Years (17:45)
Gary discusses his tenure as President of Production at Paramount Pictures, where he oversaw films like The Hunt for Red October and Fatal Attraction.

Saving Fatal Attraction with a New Ending (21:25)
Gary shares the story of how a focus group and audience test screening led to a major change in the ending of Fatal Attraction, turning it from a "bummer" into a box office hit.

Producing Primal Fear and Discovering Edward Norton (28:21)
Gary dives into the making of Primal Fear, discussing the casting process and how Edward Norton’s brilliant audition won him the career-launching role over other contenders like Leonardo DiCaprio.

Million Dollar Baby and the Road to the Oscars (33:15)
Gary shares the journey of making Million Dollar Baby, from the script's origins to Clint Eastwood's involvement to the film's Academy Award.

Bringing Andrew Lloyd Weber to the Big Screen (37:08)
Gary talks about his time working with Andrew Lloyd Weber and bringing musicals like Sunset Boulevard and Cats to the screen.

The Shifting Landscape of the Film Industry (42:38)
Kevin and Gary discuss the seismic changes in the film business. Gary shares his optimism about the next generation reinventing the industry.

Gary Lucchesi brings his passion for producing, his keen eye for talent, and his deep understanding of the filmmaking process to this conversation with his friend, and host, Kevin Goetz. For anyone interested in the art and business of filmmaking, this episode offers a front-row seat to one of the industry's most accomplished and respected producers.

If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind-the-scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: Gary Lucchesi
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about Gary Lucchesi:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Lucchesi
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0524342/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-lucchesi-26204127a 

For more information about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram: @KevinGoetz360
Linked In @Kevin Goetz
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In this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," host Kevin Goetz sits down with George Folsey Jr., the legendary film editor and producer whose illustrious career spans over five decades. Folsey Jr. has collaborated with acclaimed directors like John Landis, Eli Roth, and Paul Feig and is known for his work on films including Trading Places, An American Werewolf in London, The Blues Brothers, and Michael Jackson's groundbreaking music video, Thriller.

Growing Up in Hollywood's Golden Age (02:00)
George recalls his childhood experiences at MGM Studios, including encounters with stars like Judy Garland, Mickey Rooney, and Esther Williams.

Learning the Craft (05:36)
George discusses his entry into film editing, starting at KABC and learning from mentor Henry Berman at MGM.

The Making of Trading Places (10:07)
The conversation turns to Trading Places, which George considers one of his favorite projects. He discusses the challenging relationship with producer Aaron Russo and filming in Philadelphia.

The Twilight Zone Tragedy (11:53)
George and Kevin discuss the tragic accident on The Twilight Zone set and its impact on George’s life and career.

The Art of the "Fix" (15:42)
George explains his approach to "fixing" troubled films, emphasizing the importance of collaboration rather than alienating the original filmmakers.

The Animal House Experience (20:44)
In a fascinating revelation about one of comedy's most beloved films, George discusses how Animal House was made without traditional test screenings.

On Test Screenings and Audience Feedback (26:22)
George strongly advocates for the test screening process, arguing that understanding audience reactions is crucial given the massive investments in both money and careers at stake. He demonstrates this philosophy in his work on Cheaper by the Dozen.

Working with Michael Jackson on Thriller (37:18)
George shares personal stories about working with Michael Jackson, including anecdotes about their time together during the editing of Thriller and family visits to Jackson's home.

George Folsey Jr. offers a masterclass in film editing and production. His candid insights into working with directors like John Landis and Paul Feig, collaborating with Michael Jackson on Thriller, and helping shape classics like Trading Places and Animal House offer listeners a glimpse into the craft of film editing. His honest discussion of career challenges, including the Twilight Zone tragedy, and his philosophy on film editing and test screenings reveals not only his technical expertise but also his passion for storytelling and audience engagement.

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: George Folsey Jr.
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more info about George Folsey Jr.:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Folsey_Jr.
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0284390/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-folsey-jr-93951283

For more info about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audi

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In this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," host Kevin Goetz sits down with Susan Cartsonis, a renowned producer and former studio executive known for championing women's stories in Hollywood. From 20th Century Fox to independent producing, Susan has been behind hits like What Women Want, Where the Heart Is, Aquamarine, Sitting in Bars with Cake, and True Sprit. She shares her journey in the film industry, her passion for storytelling, and her commitment to bringing diverse perspectives to the screen.

From Theater to Hollywood: Susan's Early Career (04:32)
Susan recounts her transition from theater studies to the film industry, starting as a reader at 20th Century Fox in New York.

Favorite Projects at Fox: A Legacy of Impactful Films (19:07)
Susan reflects on some of her projects including Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Dying Young, working with Bette Midler on For the Boys, and with Jodie Foster on Nell.

Going toe to toe with Barry Diller for Sleeping With the Enemy (24:17)
Susan shares a memorable story about standing up to Barry Diller in a meeting, advocating for projects she believed in.

The Birth of Home Alone (29:25)
Susan reveals how her personal family experience helped convince executives to greenlight the beloved classic Home Alone.

Producing What Women Want and Championing Women’s Stories (31:25)
Susan discusses her involvement in producing What Women Want and her passion for supporting women filmmakers and telling stories from diverse perspectives, drawing inspiration from classic films like The Wizard of Oz.

The Importance of Inclusion and Female Leadership (39:07)
Kevin and Susan discuss the value of inclusive storytelling and advocate for more female leadership in Hollywood and beyond.

Balancing Art and Audience in Filmmaking (47:40)
Kevin and Susan discuss the delicate balance between honoring artistic vision and meeting audience expectations in film production.

The Value of Audience Testing and Interpretation (53:44)
Susan praises Kevin's ability to interpret audience feedback and find the "note beneath the note" in test screenings.

Susan Cartsonis’ passion for women's voices and her experiences as both a studio executive and producer provide listeners with a unique perspective on the film industry. From her work on blockbusters like Nell and Buffy the Vampire Slayer to more recent projects like Carrie Pilby and Beastly, Susan's career highlights the power of storytelling and the importance of representation in cinema.

If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media.

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: Susan Cartsonis
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about Susan Cartsonis:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Cartsonis
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0142134/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/susancartsonis/?hl=en

For more information about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram: @KevinGoet

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In this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," host Kevin Goetz sits down with Spring Aspers, the Grammy-nominated President of Sony Pictures Music Group. With a career spanning from intern to President, Spring has become a powerhouse in the film music industry. Her work on blockbuster soundtracks like Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Versehas earned her critical acclaim and a Grammy nod. As the executive behind numerous hit movie soundtracks and a champion for emerging artists, Spring shares her process for choosing music for a film’s soundtrack, and discusses the details of music supervision in film.

From Bohemian Roots to Music Executive (03:43)
Spring recounts her unconventional upbringing in New York's art scene and how it shaped her passion for music.

The Anatomy of Film Soundtracks (07:54)
Spring shares a breakdown of the various roles in film music, from coordinators to executives, and their responsibilities. The pair also discuss the copyright intricacies in film soundtracks.

Emotional Resonance: Music in It Ends with Us (10:36)
Kevin and Spring talk about her involvement with the film "It Ends With Us." They discuss how the music added emotional depth the story.

The "Sunflower" Story and The Grammys (18:56)
Spring discusses her involvement in the song "Sunflower" by Post Malone and Swae Lee for Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse and her Grammy nomination experience. She shares her thoughts on the importance of capturing the essence of a character through music and how "Sunflower" embodied the spirit of Miles Morales.

The Art of Musical Matchmaking (27:20)
Spring offers insights into her process of discovering artists and pairing the perfect music with film projects. She describes herself as a "musical matchmaker," always seeking to find the right sound that resonates with the heart of the story.

Music in Filmmaking (31:39)
Spring shares the challenges of integrating music into the filmmaking process and meeting tight deadlines.

The Future of Music: AI and the Human Touch (33:52)
Kevin and Spring discuss the role of AI in the music industry and the value of human creativity. Spring has an optimistic view, acknowledging AI's potential as a tool while emphasizing the enduring importance of human energy and creativity in music.

Spring Aspers offers her insight on the intersection of music and film, emphasizing the importance of creativity and the power of music to enhance storytelling. Her passion for discovering new talent and creating memorable cinematic experiences shines throughout the conversation, providing listeners with valuable insights into the world of music in film.

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: Spring Aspers
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about Spring Aspers:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/spring-aspers-876b063
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0039650/
Variety: https://variety.com/2019/music/news/spring-aspers-sony-pictures-president-music-1203356656/

For more information about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678
Facebook, X/Twitter, Instagram: @KevinGoetz360
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In this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," host Kevin Goetz sits down with Hollywood power couple Paula Wagner and Rick Nicita. Wagner has worked in the top ranks of the entertainment industry as a talent agent, studio executive, and producer. She co-founded Cruise/Wagner Productions with Tom Cruise, producing blockbuster hits like the "Mission: Impossible" franchise. Nicita worked as a successful talent agent for 5 decades before turning to production and consultation. He is currently Chairman of the American Cinematheque. Together, Wagner and Nicita offer insight into cultivating some of the most successful careers in Hollywood.

Early Careers and Transition to Becoming Agents (02:21)
Paula Wagner shares her journey from actress to agent while Rick Nicita recounts his path from law school dropout to William Morris. The couple then talk about how they met.

Hollywood Speed Round and the Art of Being an Agent (14:45)
Rick talks about some famous clients including Kevin Costner and Nicole Kidman in a celebrity speed round, and the trio discuss negotiating deals, choosing the right projects, and the importance of building long-term relationships.

Memorable Career Moments (28:04)
Paula talks about her involvement with Tom Cruise in Rain Man and Born on the 4th of July, and Rick discusses shares his experiences with high profile clients.

Cruise/Wagner Productions and United Artists (32:57)
Paula discusses her partnership with Tom Cruise, and the pair share the challenges of reviving United Artists while navigating industry changes and economic crises.

The Changing Landscape of Hollywood (40:00)
The trio discuss stardom, and how it has changed over the years, delving into the challenges of creating new movie stars and the future of audience engagement and storytelling.

Broadway and Beyond (48:00)
Paula shares about her transition to Broadway producing and her upcoming projects High Noon, and The Others. The couple reflects on the art of balancing film and theater productions.

Paula Wagner and Rick Nicita's careers offer a unique, insider perspective on the genesis of some of Hollywood’s biggest names. Wagner's journey from actress to top agent, then to successful film producer and now Broadway impresario, demonstrates her versatility and understanding of the creative process. Nicita's legacy as an agent and his transition to production and consulting highlight his expertise in talent management. Together, their experiences provide for a fascinating and inside look at how stars become stars.

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: Paula Wagner and Rick Nicita
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about Paula Wagner:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Wagner
X (Formerly Twitter): https://x.com/producerpwagner
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0906048/

For more information about Rick Nicita:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Nicita
X (Formerly Twitter): https://x.com/ricknicita?lang=en
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1131362/

For more information about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
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In this special 50th episode of Don't Kill the Messenger, host Kevin Goetz interviews one of Hollywood's most successful and versatile directors, Ron Howard. His extraordinary career spans over six decades, starting as a child actor including roles on The Andy Griffith Show and Happy Days before emerging as a director at the age of 23. Howard's directorial achievements include critical and commercial successes such as Splash, Cocoon, Parenthood, Apollo 13, A Beautiful Mind (for which he won the Academy Award for Best Director), Rush, Thirteen Lives, and the upcoming Eden. In this intimate conversation, Howard discusses his remarkable journey, his philosophy on maintaining artistic vision while always respecting the audience’s point of view, and his experiences working with some of Hollywood's biggest names.

Early Career and Transition to Directing (02:49)
Ron Howard discusses his journey from child actor to director, highlighting his experiences on The Andy Griffith Showand his transition from Happy Days to directing, including his early collaboration with Brian Grazer.

Working with Bette Davis as a Young Director (20:00)
Howard recounts his experience directing Bette Davis when he was 25, sharing the challenges and valuable lessons learned from working with the legendary actress.

Ron's Approach to Filmmaking (28:22)
The director explains his philosophy of creating an environment for actors to excel and his focus on understanding and communicating stories in line with audience expectations.

Ron Howard on his Notable Films and Career Highlights (31:14)
Howard reflects on his favorite projects and the diversity of his filmography.

And the Oscar Goes to… (36:16)
Ron Howard shares the emotional experience of winning Best Director for A Beautiful Mind, including an inside story about Mel Gibson presenting the award.

Unexpected Projects: Directing Solo: A Star Wars Story (40:04)
The filmmaker discusses taking on the Star Wars project under unique circumstances and his experience working in the iconic universe.

Balancing Art and Audience (43:22)
Ron Howard explains his approach to balancing artistic vision with audience expectations, emphasizing the importance of using audience feedback to inform creative decisions.

Ron Howard's career is a testament to his enduring talent, adaptability, and passion for storytelling. From his early days as Opie on The Andy Griffith Show to winning an Oscar for A Beautiful Mind, Howard has consistently delivered compelling narratives across a wide variety of genres. His ability to balance artistic vision with audience expectations has resulted in an acclaimed body of work that resonates with both critics and viewers. Ron Howard remains a well-loved and innovative figure in Hollywood, always seeking to push the boundaries of his craft while maintaining a deep respect for the audience.

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: Ron Howard
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, Dax Ross, Nick Nunez, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about Ron Howard:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Howard
X (Formerly Twitter): https://twitter.com/RealRonHoward
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000165/

For more information about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678
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In this episode of Don't Kill the Messenger, host Kevin Goetz sits down with a trailblazing figure in the entertainment industry, Cheryl Boone Isaacs. As a public relations and marketing executive, Cheryl has worked on marketing campaigns for over 300 films, including Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Forrest Gump, and The King's Speech. As the first African American and first person of color to serve as president of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, Cheryl shares her experiences, insights, and the journey that led her to become a pivotal force for change in Hollywood.

#OscarsSoWhite (02:44)
Kevin and Cheryl discuss the #OscarsSoWhite movement, Cheryl’s role as president of The Academy, and her quest to implement inclusion initiatives.

Lessons Learned Early (09:02)
Cheryl talks about some good advice the stuck with her through the years – you don’t know enough to ask the right questions.

Early Career and Hollywood Journey (20:33)
Cheryl and Kevin discuss Cheryl’s background, growing up in Springfield, Massachusetts, her brother, Ashley Boone, and his influence on her career in Hollywood.

Personal Experiences in the Industry (27:45)
Cheryl shares some challenges she faced as an African American woman in Hollywood along with memorable moments from her publicity career including her first job working on Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

Notable African American Figures in Hollywood (34:01)
Kevin asks Cheryl for her quick takes on influential individuals like Spike Lee, Ava DuVernay, and others.

Teaching and Mentoring the Next Generation (38:53)
Cheryl shares her approach to educating film students and the importance of understanding filmmaking as a collaborative process.

The Future of Hollywood and Diversity (40:55)
Cheryl offers insights on the progress made and challenges ahead along with the importance of collaborative voices in the creative process.

Throughout her career, Cheryl Boone Isaacs has broken barriers. From her start in marketing, to her role as president of The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, and continuing with her current position of guiding future filmmakers at the Sidney Poitier New American Film School, Boone Isaacs offers valuable lessons for those entering the film world, reinforcing the importance of diversity, collaboration, and perseverance in Hollywood. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: Cheryl Boone Isaacs
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about Cheryl Boone Isaacs:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Boone_Isaacs
Sidney Poitier New American Film School: https://search.asu.edu/profile/4102960
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3723795/

For more information about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram: @KevinGoetz360
Linked In @Kevin Goetz
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In this episode of Don't Kill the Messenger, host Kevin Goetz interviews the directing, producing, and writing team of Will Speck and Josh Gordon. This talented duo has made their mark across various media, directing feature films such as Blades of Glory, Office Christmas Party, and Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile. They've also created iconic commercials, including the Geico caveman and gecko campaigns, and ventured into television with their animated series Hit-Monkey on Hulu. The pair discusses their journey from film school to becoming successful filmmakers, their experiences with test screenings, and insights into their creative process across different mediums.

Film School and an Early Partnership (02:00)
The pair share how they met in NYU film school and started collaborating. The discussion turns to their first jobs in the industry and their transition from New York to Los Angeles.

Blades of Glory and an Intense Audience Screening (9:41)
Kevin asks Will and Josh about the making of Blades of Glory and their first test screening experience.

“Even a Caveman can do it” -- Commercial Work (20:37)
The pair discuss their work on famous commercials like the Geico caveman and gecko commercials, and how commercial work has influenced their filmmaking.

Recent Projects and Creative Growth (30:41)
Josh and Will share details about their animated series Hit Monkey on Hulu and their reflections on making the musical film Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile.

Career Reflections and Advice to Young Filmmakers (32:09)
Josh shares his proudest achievement: an impactful PSA on organ donation and Will discusses the importance of their partnership.

Upcoming Projects and Industry Outlook (41:00)
The pair share their thoughts on the future of the film industry and discuss their upcoming projects, including an adaptation of "The Wedding People" with Nicole Holofcener.

Will Speck and Josh Gordon offer a unique perspective on navigating the film industry as a writing, directing, and producing duo. Their experience across different mediums - from commercials to feature films to streaming content - demonstrates the value of maintaining a varied portfolio of work while continually pushing creative boundaries and nurturing a productive partnership. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guests: Will Speck and Josh Gordon
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about Will Speck and Josh Gordon:
Speck Gordon, Inc.: https://www.speckgordon.com/home
IMDB (Josh Gordon): https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0330347/
IMDB (Will Speck): https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0817447/
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Speck_and_Josh_Gordon

For more information about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678
Facebook, Twitter, Instagram: @KevinGoetz360
Linked In @Kevin Goetz
Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.ScreenEngineASI.com

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In this episode of Don't Kill the Messenger, Kevin Goetz sits down with DeVon Franklin, film and TV producer, bestselling author, motivational speaker, and former studio executive. Franklin is known for his work on inspirational films such as Breakthrough, Miracles from Heaven, and Flamin' Hot, as well as the BET series Kingdom Business. With a unique blend of faith, business savvy, and creative vision, Franklin has bridged the gap between mainstream entertainment and faith-based content. The conversation explores Franklin's journey in the entertainment industry, his approach to faith-based filmmaking, and his insights on what makes a successful movie.

DeVon's Background (02:10)
Kevin and DeVon discuss DeVon’s values and background in spirituality, and how his upbringing, family, and early influences shaped his views.

Early Career and Overbrook Entertainment (11:03)
Franklin talks about his internship experiences and work with Will Smith's production company, Overbrook entertainment, and the lessons he learned from working with high-profile talent.

Transition to Studio Executive (16:57)
Franklin shares his studio experiences at MGM and later Sony Pictures where he rose to become a senior executive.

Faith-Based Filmmaking (23:49)
Kevin and DeVon discuss what defines a faith-based film, and the pair analyze successful projects like Miracles from Heaven and Heaven is for Real. The talk turns to challenges and opportunities in the faith-based market.

Understanding the Audience (34:08)
Franklin touches on his approach to marketing faith-based films and the importance of knowing your audience as well as tailoring strategies for reaching both faith-based and mainstream audiences.

Current Projects and Working with Tyler Perry (36:05)
Franklin shares details on his upcoming film Relationship Goals. He discusses his partnership with Tyler Perry for Netflix.

Lessons from Past Projects (41:39)
Kevin and DeVon discuss DeVon’s animated film, The Star, and its performance which leads to reflections on learning from both successes and challenges in the industry.

DeVon Franklin's journey in Hollywood serves as a testament to the power of combining faith, business acumen, and a deep understanding of audiences. Throughout the conversation, Franklin offers insights into the nuances of faith-based filmmaking, the importance of marketing strategies, and the evolving landscape of entertainment. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review or connect on social media. We look forward to bringing you more revelations from behind the scenes next time on Don't Kill the Messenger!

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: DeVon Franklin
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer:  Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about DeVon Franklin:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeVon_FranklinInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/devonfranklin/
IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2035952/

For more information about Kevin Goetz:
Website: www.KevinGoetz360.com
Audienceology Book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Audience-ology/Kevin-Goetz/9781982186678
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Screen Engine/ASI Website: www.Scre