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For most of the first 16 years of her life, Mae Vanders says she was confined to a tiny section of one room inside her family’s hoarded home—never attending school and relying on her older sister, television, and whatever she could read to understand the outside world. Her father invoked the Bible and his role as the “head of the household” to justify extreme control, isolation, and ab*se, until Mae and her mother finally moved out and she began experiencing freedom for the first time.

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In this follow-up LIVE, Donna Lamb takes us deeper inside Aesthetic Realism, revealing how the group attempted to control members’ sexuality, relationships, and identities, and how she eventually became part of the system herself.  Donna confronts her role in helping convince gay people they could “change,” while exposing the manipulation that kept her devoted to the group for decades.

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At just 18 years old, Donna Lamb arrived in New York City dreaming of becoming an actress—only to be recruited into sex work on her second day in the city. After dr*gs, violence, and a terrifying encounter that made her fear for her life, Donna escaped that world but soon found herself pulled into Aesthetic Realism, a high-control group that she says attempted to change her sexuality, dictated relationships and even s*x, and demanded devotion to its founder, Eli Siegel. Now 77, Donna shares how she finally reclaimed her own voice after decades of surrendering her autonomy.

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Following up our enlightening interview with Mitch Cunico of  @Cult_Audit  about his time as a leader within the World Mission Society Church of God (WMSCOG), we are joined with him LIVE today to further dive into their recruiting process.  Were they recruiting? What do they say? How do they approach college students? How can parents warn their kids? 

We’ll go behind the curtain into the “Letters to Mother” system and how personal information can create the appearance that “Mother” somehow knows what someone is thinking or struggling with. And what Mitch feels happens when a member begins questioning or leaves the church.

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Former high-ranking World Mission Society Church of God member Mitch Cunico (of  @Cult_Audit ) reveals how a seemingly innocent Bible study pulled him into a South Korean high-control religious group that demanded relentless evangelizing, money, strict obedience, and eventually even control over his marriage. Mitch was matched with a Korean wife he barely knew, living at the church as pastoral staff, watching members’ private confessions allegedly be used to monitor them, and ultimately discovering information that shattered his belief in the organization.

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Dr. Christine Marie infiltrated the inner circle of polygamous cult leader Samuel Bateman, helping expose the horrific ab*se happening behind closed doors and ultimately contributing to his downfall. Now, just days after watching Bateman receive his final sentence in court, Christine joins us to reveal what it took to bring him down… and what it was like to finally see justice served.

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Polygamous sect leader Samuel Bateman has been sentenced to a total of 74 years in prison. Yesterday an Arizona state judge handed down an additional 24-year prison sentence to be served consecutively after his 50-year federal prison sentence. 

Today we are joined LIVE with Naomi "Nomz" Bistline (Sam Bateman’s former 13th wife) who was at the hearing and gave an impact statement, and his former 22nd wife, Makelle Bistline, as they debrief us on exactly what happened.  

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Amanda Rae returns for a disturbing deep dive into the alleged consequences of generations of incest within the polygamous Kingston Group, from miscarriages and birth defects to infertility and reproductive coercion. Amanda and Shelise examine how the group’s obsession with preserving its “pure” bloodline has impacted women and chiIdren—and why, despite mounting consequences, the practice continues

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When two best friends are coerced to becoming sister wives to a false prophet, how does their friendship evolve? Did it survive the pressures of a household with over 20 other wives? Have they maintained a friendship after one of them helped put the false prophet behind bars?  Makelle and Nomz return today for a special LIVE stream to answer all!

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After being gr**med and coerced into becoming Sam Bateman’s 22nd wife, Makelle Bistline reveals what life was actually like inside his polygamous household—and how quickly the disturbing reality began to surface. As her doubts grew, Makelle secretly helped get information to Christine, eventually becoming part of the quiet resistance that helped expose Bateman and bring the FBI closer to his inner circle.

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In this follow-up conversation, Sienna returns to share what’s changing inside the FLDS and the unexpected reasons some members are beginning to walk away. As Warren Jeffs’ daughter, she offers a rare insider perspective on what’s driving people to question the group, what makes leaving so complicated, and how life inside the FLDS continues to evolve.

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