The Trawl ladies are off to Tory conference and Kemi Badenoch has found a headline-grabbing pledge in scrapping inheritance tax on family homes. But who actually benefits, what might it cost, and what happens to everyone else? Jem has some thoughts, including a memorable encounter with a very wealthy former Dragons’ Den investor.Plus, the Conservatives’ plans for Reform defectors, a spectacularly unfortunate Chris Philp soundbite and the usual dose of political absurdity.

It’s a Drop-In, so there’s no pudding. Just plenty of food for thought. Normal service resumes next Wednesday!

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It’s our first ever Trawl Drop In! A slightly less structured, more spontaneous outing in which Jemma and Marina tackle the stories that didn’t make the main pod. And blimey, there’s plenty to get stuck into.

Has Zack Polanski’s party spectacularly misjudged its controversial conference motion on Zionism? Marina and Jemma get into the fallout, the leadership questions and what it all means for the left, while making clear that supporting Palestinian freedom and opposing antisemitism should never be mutually exclusive.

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The Trawl ladies are still looking for the bit where it gets better, and this week it's hiding behind a potential outbreak of pneumonic plague in Russia. Don't panic, Trawlers, Jemma and Marina have a plan, and it's mostly denial.

Then there's Pete Hegseth's guide to who gets into the armed forces, which Marina reworks into some dating advice for Jemma's Hinge profile. And Jemma has questions about who in the Bible wouldn't make the cut.

With the midterms five weeks away, Trump is on the rally trail in states he won comfortably last time. The hypocrisy klaxon is blaring away for his talk of the death penalty, the dumbest soundbites from the road, and the Time interview transcript, which is best read with your head in your hands. Plus the Cornell case, and a comparison with the Central Park Five that's hard to ignore.

They end on hope, because the polls look good, and then it's underrateds, Naomi Klein on AI, and a posh baby-name clip from Henry Rowley. Also: Postman Pat, reimagined and of course, pudding!

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This week on The Trawl, there are… dare we say it… reasons to be cheerful. Andy Burnham is talking public ownership, electoral reform and a closer relationship with Europe, and suddenly the future doesn't seem quite so bleak. Marina and Jemma revisit the highlights from Labour conference, including plans to bring empty high-street buildings back to life, and ask: could hope actually be making a comeback?

Then, things get considerably less wholesome. Suella Braverman finds herself under fire after a very revealing discussion about who gets to call themselves English, while Robert Jenrick's latest shoplifting crusade gives the Trawl ladies yet another reason to reach for the receipts. There's hypocrisy, Reform's apparent run of bad news, tactical voting, wealth taxes, and a reminder of why sometimes the internet is both the problem and the entertainment.

Plus, Jürgen Klopp has some words for the people who think Germany's football team isn't German enough, and the episode finishes, as always, with pudding.

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Content warning: this episode discusses rape and sexual violence.

Marina and Jemma open with some hope. Between Macklemore, Ed Sheeran's bad week, and the Andy Burnham effect, is the tide turning? Then they switch gears.

In 2024, a Cornell student alleges she was drugged and then raped and sexually assaulted for seven hours at a fraternity house. A group chat of 57 people were made aware of it. Seven men allegedly took part. Two were expelled, and others were told to write essays. The case has now been reopened.

Marina and Jemma look at what the group chat didn't do, why institutions keep protecting "his future" over hers, and how sentencing in the UK and US compares. They also flip the scenario and ask what would happen if the victim were a man. It's a heavy one, Trawlers...but as ever, a few underrated tweets and a £10.78 loaf of sourdough to finish.

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Two episodes in two days, because Marina couldn't sleep. Trawlers, this one's a tasting menu of the week's finest nonsense.

The Trawl ladies start with GB News being crowned "most trusted news channel" by its own viewers (custard is the favourite custard among people who eat custard), then pay homage to a homegrown delusional wally who lasted 49 days and still gets the odd LBC slot.

Then it's over to the White House. Trump rolls out the red carpet and a black-tie state dinner for the leader of China, while Americans can't afford their groceries and the war with Iran drags on. Jemma and Marina discuss the broligarchy banquet, the rebrand of AI as "SI", and why the "communist" jibes don't apply when there's a banquet on offer.

Plus this week's best (and most inventive) British insults, the underrated tweets of the week, and a heads-up for tomorrow's much heavier episode.

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Jemma and Marina hit Labour conference with Andy Burnham's speech: social care, "Your First Home" and the triple lock. Both have opinions and neither can quite agree on how many pensioners will turn up with pitchforks. Plus Shabana Mahmood reads the room, and Jemma and Marina ask whether this is actual hope or just adrenaline and conference biscuits.

Then to Reform, where a council has decided the best way to help women and girls is to close all ten of its nurseries, leaving 402 children and 116 staff in the lurch.

Then football. One hotel-room summit, 160+ athlete signatures, one player who wouldn't play and a 3-0 win in black armbands. Jemma and Marina on the most dramatic day in Irish football, and why the Irish lead on Palestine.

Plus: Ash Sarkar's Question Time moment and why Marina has notes, the underrated tweets (featuring the Grand Designs caravan), and Marina's David Dickinson tan.

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Columnist, bestselling author, Guardian journalist, broadcaster and one of the most prominent voices on the British left for well over a decade, Owen can always be relied on to say exactly what he thinks, no holds barred. He’s also someone who has never been particularly troubled by the idea of annoying people which, frankly, is one of the reasons Marina and Jemma like him.

He’s fiercely critical of the right, deeply unimpressed by Keir Starmer’s Labour, passionate about Gaza and increasingly interested in what the rise of the Greens and Reform means for the future of British politics.

Marina and Jemma sit down with him and let him have a proper rant. Let's face it, there's a lot to talk about.

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Ed Sheeran is crying on stage after the backlash over Macklemore being dropped from his tour, while Macklemore remains remarkably clear that this isn’t about him, or Ed.

Marina and Jemma get into the row, the strange spectacle of a global superstar discovering the politics of Palestine in real time, and why having “FU money” might occasionally mean having the courage to say - no.

Then there’s the rather extraordinary case of former Labour deputy leader Tom Watson joining Palantir, the controversial US data company with major contracts across the British state. From fighting phone hacking and defending democracy to working for a company critics have accused of undermining it: what on earth happened there?

We also get into the eternal question of who should pay for a country that needs more money: capital gains, wealth, land and the extraordinary phenomenon of people with hundreds of millions still insisting they’re being squeezed.

Plus: the MPs apparently tackling the national emergency of our Eurovision entries, the wonderful late Bonnie Greer, Nigel Farage getting exactly the interview he deserves, and Andrew Tate discovering that prison guards may not be his biggest fans.

And, as ever, some pudding to see you into the weekend.

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It’s another beautifully normal week on Planet Trawl. Europe is quietly preparing for war, we’re being told to stock up on tins and Trump is threatening to annihilate Iran while simultaneously floating a peace deal. So that’s nice.

Marina and Jemma discuss Trump’s increasingly bonkers attempts to control the press, a House of Representatives that has essentially buggered off until after the midterms, Fox News unexpectedly standing up for journalism, and JD Vance begging everyone to just give them a little more time. Meanwhile, America’s farmers and truckers are discovering that 'drill, baby, drill' isn’t quite as comforting when the petrol pump starts hurting.

But there are rays of light. Trump’s approval rating is tanking, the media are beginning to push back, and Zohran Mamdani appears to have discovered the revolutionary concept of making competent politics look extremely attractive.

So stock up on your chickpeas, put the kettle on and join another light, breezy episode of The Trawl. What could possibly go wrong?

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Buckle up, Trawlers - the Trawl girls are finally doing the AI special they've been promising for two years but haven't got round to. Until now because the news has forced their hands. From Sam Altman and Elon Musk suddenly (suspiciously) calling for a "slowdown," to Nobel laureate Geoffrey Hinton leaving Newsnight's Victoria Derbyshire lost for words, to an ex-Anthropic researcher quitting over fears AI could kill us all by the decade's end, Jemma and Marina ask the obvious question: is this genuine alarm, or a very convenient story for an industry that needs to justify its valuations? Plus: weapons in space, AI agents hacking servers they weren't supposed to touch, and why it might be Meghan Markle's fault after all (according to the Telegraph, obviously). They bring it back down to earth with your ick-list confessions, a royal wishlist for next week, and a verdict on Andrew Tate's latest courtroom performance. Heavy topics, delivered the only way they know how.

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