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Marketing Against The Grain

Marketing Against The Grain

Hubspot Podcast Network

  • 14 minutes 30 seconds
    How To 5x Your Business Overnight With Influencer Marketing

    Influencer-Led Growth Stack (10 prompts): https://clickhubspot.com/gfdr

    Ep. 443

    What’s the clever, better alternative to pouring more money into Google or Meta ads?

    Kipp dives into a step-by-step playbook for launching your first influencer campaign that any marketer can use to break away from rising ad costs and stale channels. Learn more on how to find the right influencers for your brand, calculate smart budgets and ROI for partnerships, and use a proven scorecard to evaluate creators for long-term success.

    Mentions

    • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

    • Unilever https://www.unilever.com/

    • Founders Podcast https://www.founderspodcast.com/

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    • Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg 

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    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    11 August 2026, 5:38 am
  • 16 minutes 13 seconds
    Where to Spend Your 2027 Ad Budget, Explained Simply

    Paid Ads Rebuild: 3 Workflows + 8 Prompts to Fix What AI Broke: https://clickhubspot.com/jgvk

    Ep. 442

    50% of Google searches now result in zero clicks, how does that affect your 2027 ad budget?

    Kipp dives into how AI has completely disrupted the paid ads landscape, changing where you should spend your marketing dollars and what those ads actually cost. Learn more on which ad channels have become more expensive, where you can still find underpriced opportunities like YouTube Shorts, and why most 2027 marketing budgets are already broken if they don’t account for these rapid changes.

    Mentions

    • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book

    • HeyGen https://app.heygen.com/

    • Captions https://captions.ai/

    • Canva https://www.canva.com/

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

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    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    6 August 2026, 5:02 am
  • 36 minutes 23 seconds
    How Liquid Death Turned Going Viral Into Millions in Sales

    Map your media spend with our full-funnel audit template: https://clickhubspot.com/ckev

    Ep. 441

    Distribution is undefeated—and if you’re not building systems to measure real sales impact, you don’t have a business.

    Kipp and guest Benoit Vatere (Liquid Death’s Chief Media and Digital Commerce Officer) dive into the untold story of Liquid Death’s explosive growth, and the critical role of full-funnel marketing systems behind the brand. Learn more on how to measure incrementality instead of just chasing ROAS, why big home-run tests matter more than small optimizations, and the approach to creative and channel strategy that actually builds both brand and revenue. 

    Mentions

    • Benoit Vatere https://www.linkedin.com/in/benoitvatere

    • Liquid Death https://liquiddeath.com/

    • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://a.co/d/08By5k2w

    • Mike Cessario https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikecessario

    • Landman https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/landman/

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    4 August 2026, 5:03 am
  • 16 minutes 48 seconds
    Use AI to never run out of winning content ideas

    Weekly AI Content Ideation System: https://clickhubspot.com/rtjed

    Ep. 440

    Are you still stuck regurgitating the same content ideas that everyone else is using? 

    Kieran dives into the secrets behind building a world-class AI content ideation system that delivers fresh, high-impact ideas every time. Learn more on mapping proven content patterns to your platforms, crafting rich audience profiles (that go beyond basic ICPs), and building a personal content queue to keep your creativity flowing—all while making AI your creative superpower, not a shortcut.

    Mentions

    • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://a.co/d/08By5k2w

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

    • Substack https://substack.com/

    • Atomic Habits https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    30 July 2026, 5:00 am
  • 42 minutes 15 seconds
    If Your Team Is Producing AI Slop, Here's How To Fix it

    Anti-AI Slop Checklist: https://clickhubspot.com/olkw

    Ep. 439

    Are you just passing AI-generated slop back and forth at work?

    Kipp and guest Hilary Gridley (founder of the newsletter Writerbuilder) dive into how teams can escape the AI slop doom loop and leverage artificial intelligence to scale taste, judgment, and high-performance work—not just automate mediocrity. Learn more on the crucial role of clarity and context in AI-powered teams, why leaders must redefine what “good” looks like, and practical tools to set quality bars, create feedback loops, and eliminate sloppy outputs from your team’s workflow.

    Mentions

    • Hilary Gridley https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilarygridley

    • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://a.co/d/08By5k2w

    • Writerbuilder https://hils.substack.com/p/writing-is-building-now

    • Maven https://maven.com/hilary-gridley/ai-powered-people-management

    • Whoop https://www.whoop.com/

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    28 July 2026, 5:45 am
  • 26 minutes 40 seconds
    How to Automate ALL of your Marketing w/ Claude Cowork

    Free guide + skill: build social carousels in claude cowork: https://clickhubspot.com/dkhc

    Ep. 438

    How do you differentiate your marketing when everyone else is using the same AI tools? 

    Kipp and Kieran dive into building next-level marketing systems with AI that actually set you apart, featuring digital growth consultant and educator Grace Leung. Discover why context is king in AI marketing, how to build simple but powerful systems that scale, and the secret to making your brand voice and strategy shine through every asset. Learn more on designing reusable AI workflows, structuring context-rich file systems, and maximizing team collaboration while building a future-proof marketing stack.

    Mentions

    • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://a.co/d/08By5k2w

    • Grace Leung https://www.youtube.com/@graceleungyl

    • Claude Cowork https://support.claude.com/en/articles/13345190-get-started-with-claude-cowork

    • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

    • Codex https://openai.com/codex/

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    23 July 2026, 5:07 am
  • 39 minutes 30 seconds
    Side Hustle King: 3 High Demand AI Businesses I'd Start TODAY

    200+ Business Ideas: https://clickhubspot.com/wrdj

    Ep. 437

    How do you find business ideas before they go viral—and turn them into real income?

    Kipp, Kieran, and guest Chris Koerner (entrepreneur and host of The Koerner Office Podcast) dive into the unique mindsets, strategies, and tactics needed to spot opportunities before they explode and build successful businesses from them. Learn more on how to pattern match hidden opportunities, leverage AI to scale new service models, and uncover overlooked markets that are ripe for innovation. 

    Mentions

    • Chris Koerner https://www.chrisjkoerner.com/

    • The Koerner Office https://www.youtube.com/@thekoerneroffice

    • Buc-ees https://buc-ees.com/

    • Shopify https://www.shopify.com/

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    • LoopNet https://www.loopnet.com/

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    21 July 2026, 5:00 am
  • 21 minutes 59 seconds
    If You Use AI for Work, You Need a Second Brain

    Build Your AI Second Brain: https://clickhubspot.com/ldwc

    Ep. 436

    The number one trend in AI right now is the rise of AI second brains—personal operating systems designed to accelerate careers and make work smarter, not harder.

    Kieran dives into how building your own AI second brain can transform personal productivity, decision-making, and the way you learn. Learn more on how AI second brains store and retrieve knowledge, the core building blocks for setting one up, and why continuous information ingestion helps your personal system compound intelligence over time.

    Mentions

    • Andrej Karpathy https://karpathy.ai/

    • Obsidian https://obsidian.md/

    • Tiago Forte https://www.youtube.com/@TiagoForte

    • Notion https://www.notion.com/

    • Brian Halligan https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianhalligan

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    16 July 2026, 5:16 am
  • 32 minutes 52 seconds
    If You're A Marketer, Copy These Codex Skills (Or Stay Behind)

    Free Claude + Codex Skill-Building Starter Pack: https://clickhubspot.com/clzf

    Ep. 435

    Are you just asking AI questions, or are you actually building repeatable skills?

    Kipp and guest Riley Brown (content creator and AI educator) dive into how to level up your content game and marketing efficiency by strategically creating and collaborating with AI agents. Learn more on why documenting your weekly workflows is a game changer, how to turn AI experiments into scalable skills, and what the frontier of agent-powered team collaboration looks like in platforms like Codex and Slack.

    Mentions

    • Riley Brown https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMcoud_ZW7cfxeIugBflSBw

    • Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow. https://www.amazon.com/dp/1637636105?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_VPTVJUW097F1PLSGOQTH&bestFormat=true

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    • Anthropic https://www.anthropic.com/

    • SupaData https://supadata.ai/

    • Notion https://www.notion.com/

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    14 July 2026, 5:58 am
  • 27 minutes 11 seconds
    How 1 Human + AI Replaced a 15-Person RevOps Team

    Free GTM Prompt Pack for Perplexity Computer: https://clickhubspot.com/gbvs

    Ep. 434

    Can one RevOps leader and a team of AI agents really replace a 10-15 person operations team? 

    Kieran and guest Nate Follen (Head of strategy and Ops for Perplexity) dive into the real-world impact of Perplexity on modern go-to-market and RevOps workflows. Learn more on automating tedious CRM audits, building thoughtful event workflows with AI-powered model councils, and creating a scalable skills library for proactive, agent-driven teams.

    Mentions

    • Nate Follen https://www.linkedin.com/in/follen

    • Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

    • Ramp https://ramp.com/

    • Ironclad https://ironcladapp.com/

    • Apollo https://www.apollo.io/

    • Nvidia https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/

    • Gemini https://gemini.google.com/app

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    8 July 2026, 5:00 am
  • 39 minutes 11 seconds
    Build An Army Of AI Employees To Run Your Business (With Hermes AI)

    Build Your First AI Employee (Free Workflow + Prompt): https://clickhubspot.com/rkvr

    Ep. 433

    What if you could have an AI employee working right alongside you, automating key business workflows?

    Kieran and guest Nick Vasilescu (Co-founder of Orgo) dive into how agents are the next big form of business leverage.  Learn more on what it actually takes to get a functional AI agent up and running, how new connector tools like Composio make integrations simple, and why giving your agent a second brain with an Obsidian Vault is a game-changer for business productivity.

    Mentions

    • Nick Vasilescu https://www.nickvasilescu.com/

    • Orgo https://www.orgo.ai/

    • Hermes Agent https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/

    • Composio https://composio.dev/

    • OpenClaw https://openclaw.ai/

    • GLM 5.2 https://z.ai/blog/glm-5.2

    • Obsidian https://obsidian.md/

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg 

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod 

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod 

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934  

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar  

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat 

    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.

    1 July 2026, 5:00 am
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