The Awakened Underground podcast is an investigative talk show that explores the ancient art of healing yourself with plant medicines and psychedelics. The Awakened Underground is a production of Cavalry Audio, in association with iHeart Radio, created and hosted by filmmaker and Psychedelic thought leader Cody Blue. © 2022 Cavalry Audio & iHeartPodcasts
From the 2023 iHeartradio podcast, award-nominated creators of Awakened Underground, Cody Blue & Tanya Dahl, team up again to bring you an all-new weekly psycho-spiritual podcast: ACID FOR SQUARES. Available on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts: https://linktr.ee/acidforsquares
SYNOPSIS: The year is 2024. The US government has finally acknowledged the existence of UFOs and its lengthy coverup. Doctors worldwide are championing psychedelics as a breakthrough cure for the mental health crisis. And scientists have proven that everything is made of energy and what we perceive with our senses is merely an illusion, leading many to believe that we are living in some cosmic simulation. More and more each day, modern science is proving what Eastern mystics and indigenous shamans have been trying to tell us for millennia, but mainstream media continues to ignore these voices instead of amplifying them. Enter the ACID FOR SQUARES PODCAST, where hosts Tanya Dahl and Cody Blue take you on a mind-bending ride through the unknown. Each week, they will interview leading experts in the fields of both science and spirituality, embarking on a journey to uncover the mysteries of the universe and the power of the human potential and prove once and for all that truth really is stranger than fiction.
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Deepak Chopra and Cody Blue discuss psychedelic medicines and the nature of consciousness in the season 1 finale (timestamp: 22:48). Guests Cole Crawford Millette and Shirley Wantland sit with Cody to discuss the steps one can take, should they feel called to try psychedelic medicines. And finally, David Grillot of the non-profit Thank You Plant Medicine shares the names of 3 retreat centers that he recommends.
Deepak Chopra has been described by Time Magazine as “one of the top 100 heroes and icons of the century.” For the last thirty years, he has been at the forefront of the meditation revolution. www.NeverAlone.love
Choprafoundation.org
Cole Crawford Millette is the Founder and Managing Partner of The Work. Cole has been deep on her path of transformation for more than a decade, supporting hundreds of seekers worldwide from Emmy award winners, entrepreneurs, celebrities, athletes, & philanthropists; to our veterans and those recovering from addiction, eating disorders, trauma and depression. Shirley Wantland serves as a Managing Partner for The Work. The Work is a premier psychedelic integration and transformational recovery firm, bringing decades of professional experience together in both the clinical mental health space and the psychedelic shamanic healing arts to support a shared vision of deep healing & personal revolution.
www.the-work.us
www.Recovery-consultants.com
David Grillot is the co-founder of the non for profit “Thank you plant medicine.” The organizations mission is: Working together, in gratitude, for the global de-stigmatization of psychoactive plant medicines and psychedelics, and their responsible integration into mainstream society.
www.ThankYouPlantMedicine.com
Centromunay.com
Soltara.co
HuachumaWasi.com
0:07 - Discalimer
1:10 - Intro
3:10 - Cody's first Mushroom ceremony
6:36 - Reiki
11:18 - Merging with Source Consciousness
16:55 - Do not be the healer, be the healed, share your story
19:41 - Guest Intro's and Intentions
21:18 - Deepak Chopra talks to Cody about Psychedelic Medicines and Consciousness
24:13 - Deepak on Psychedelics and the Default Mode Network
25:15 - Run-a-Mok ego, interconnectedness, our genes, brain and gut
27:11 - Psychedelics remove the conditioning of our minds
27:50 - Identity
29:40 - the reducing valve
30:27 - Modalities of perception, Awareness and Wholeness
31:39 - The Original Religious Experience and Waking Up From The Dream
34:02 - Everyday reality is a collective hallucination
36:57 - Waking up to your Real Self
38:10 - Creating a better world
40:40 - Deepak Chopra's work with Psychedelics and most profound Psychedelic experience with LSD
43:08 - Intro: Cole Crawford Millette and Shirley Watland
45:48 - Feeling called to the medicine
52:52 - Importance of integration
54:35 - The psycho-spiritual piece of mental health
1:07:28 - Psychedelic therapies as a viable option in mental health today
1:10:14 - Preparing for a psychedelic journey to return to the True Self and Wholeness
1:11:10 - You want to try Plant Medicine: What to do first
1:18:01 - Safety and taking inventory before working with psychedelic medicines
1:20:50 - Physical maladies showing up as trauma in the body
1:24:52 - Contraindications and dangers
1:26:20 - Return to Homeostasis
1:29:09 - 3 categories of preparation
1:32:40 - Spikes in mental health issues
1:39:50 - Intention and Personal Agency
1:41:30 - Integration
1:45:05 - Grab a journal
1:52:15 - Know why you are going to the medicine
1:56:20 - learning to let go
2:07:02 - wrapping up
2:09:42 - David Grillot of Thank You Plant Medicine shares info on medicine retreat centers
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Cody Blue's father, Dee Snider, sits down with his doctor and son, to discuss the benefits of working with psychedelic medicines.
In this episode Cody talks about healing the stigmas behind working with psychedelic plant medicines. Cody's brother Jesse shares the story of the confrontation he had with his father after taking mushrooms. Then, Cody and Dr. Abhinav Gautam sit down with Dee and discuss healing Dee's shoulder pain, plant medicines and other healing modalities. Dee is encouraged to try Microdosing for the first time. Later, Cody calls Dee to check in...
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Dr. Abhinav Gautam is an inventor, entrepreneur and musician. Trained as an anesthesiologist, he co-founded Nexus Clinical, an electronic medical records software company focused on alleviating the administrative burden of clinicians, allowing them to focus on helping patients and Carevoyance (acquired by H1) to leverage the power of data science, analytics and geo-spatial visualization tools to improve healthcare administration.
Dr. Gautam pioneered RELIEF® used by the world’s top performers, musicians and professional athletes. As a former competitive soccer player, active tennis athlete and musician he combines his understanding of the human anatomy with his artistic eye to create harmonious and unparalleled results for each patient. This rare union of talents has earned him a high level of respect, love and admiration from his patients and peers. Dr. Gautam graduated from the Louisiana State University (Doctor of Medicine and Bachelor of Science in Biochemistry) and performed his residency in anesthesiology at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine.
0:007 - Disclaimer
1:50 - Cody on the stigma behind psychedelics
6:06 - Negative responses from family or friends after a psychedelic experience
8:00 - Cody's brother, Jesse, on telling his dad about his first Mushroom experience
16:32 - Cody cautions against stigma and alienation
17:45 - All of Cody's family but his father have worked with psychedelics... so far...
19:10 - Psychedelics were lumped in with 'drugs'
20:28 - Dr. Abhinav Gautam and Dee Snider talk about psychedelics
21:36 - Dr. Abhi helped Dee's shoulder
22:26 - Dr. Abhi on pain and looking at the body and mind in a connected fashion
26:36 - How Dr. Abhi received Dee's shoulder pain
29:48 - The Lympathic System
34:51 - Sacred Geometry and the body
36:22 - Psylocibin and Ketamine
38:45 - Psylocibin and promoting plasticity and transformation
40:06 - Psylocibin for depression and creativity
51:40 - Ayahuasca healing shame and transcending physical pain
1:05:56 - Dee and Cody on creativity
1:11:16 - Protecting your kids and Stigmas
1:13:57 - Treatment Modalities, Not all medicines are for everyone, Microdosing
1:17:21 - Meditation and State
1:19:55 - Will Dee try Microdosing?
1:22:20 - Dee Snider on if he will try Microdosing Mushrooms
1:23:57 - Dee and Cody catch up from Sicily post sitting down with Dr. Abhi
1:34:06 - Cody's mom on changing the narrative around mushrooms to help people
1:39:40 - Dee's confrontation with Jesse was 8 years ago
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Cody blue speaks with indigenous elders and Ariel Clark, the top psychedelic attorney in the world to discuss indigenous injustice and how to change the law around psychedelic medicines.
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Ariel Clark is an attorney, activist, and co-founder of Clark Howell LLP, a women-steered law firm focused on cannabis, hemp and psychedelics. After practicing law at California Indian Legal Services, she started her own firm in 2010, to be of service to the plants and communities she is in deep connection with. Ariel is General Legal Counsel to Chacruna Institute for Psychedelic Plant Medicines and member of Chacruna’s Board of Directors. She has been involved in numerous drug policy, social equity and justice reform efforts in her life. Her organization affiliations have included the Psychedelic Bar Association, the LA Cannabis Task Force, and the California Native American Cannabis Association. She has been recognized by Rolling Stone as one of 18 “Women Shaping The Culture of Tomorrow” and Entrepreneur’s “Top 100 Cannabis Leaders.” She is licensed in California; J.D., UC Berkeley School of Law (2005); B.A. in Religious Studies, University of Michigan (2000).
Gray Wolf is an Elder from the Yoeme, and a friend of the Awakened Underground.
Alfred is an Elder from the Cherokee and Muskogee, and is a friend of the Awakened Underground.
0:07 - Disclaimer
1:52 - The Dakota Access Pipeline
3:25 - Cody shoots a music video to raise awareness for Standing Rock and is attacked by the military, alongside Water Protectors and protestors
11:26 - Gray Wolf talks about the military attack, being tear gassed and looking for a place to die
14:41 - "The United States is a land of the law"
16:10 - Medicines and Spiritual practices being outlawed by the government
16:58 - Peyote
19:06 - There's not one way to do anything
20:33 - Alfred talks about The Awakened Underground Podcast
21:37 - Cody has no ego
22:57 - The Prophecy of the Condor and The Eagle
24:42 - Intro: Ariel Clark; the top psychedelic attorney in the country
25:41 - Ariel's story and walking the Red Road
34:28 - Turning deeply toward ourselves
44:16 - Interconnectedness
49:55 - Healing in nature and catharsis
51:48 - Nature is the best medicine
53:44 - How to have a direct communication with Spirit
54:54 - Ariel connects with researchers at MAPS, works with 5-MEO, Psilocybin, and MDMA
57:00 - The Ceremonial Container
57:57 - Integration and Feeling into it
1:03:30 - Sitting with Ayahuasca
1:12:59 - De-Colonization and Bio-Piracy
1:19:29 - Ism's are prisons for us all
1:23:52 - Law Reform
1:31:09 - Indigenous Reciprocity and Active Engagement, Chacruna Institutes Indigenous Reciprocity Initiative of the Americas
1:43:52 - What happens in Oregon will inform what happens in other parts of the country
1:55:13 - Chacruna Institue
1:56:30 - Look up the North Star Pledge
1:58:47 - Remember who we truly are and love ourselves through it all
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Cody Blue explores the true nature of addiction, exploring both the scientific perspective and shamanic perspective of addiction. To learn more about how psychedelic medicines can help heal addiction, Cody interviews doctor Alan Davis, a Johns Hopkins professor, and a plant medicine shaman who healed his addiction with ibogaine, Warren Flesch.
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Dr. Alan K Davis is an Assistant Professor of Social Work at The Ohio State University and an Adjunct Assistant Professor in the Psychedelic Research Unit at Johns Hopkins University. Dr. Davis’s clinical experience includes working with people diagnosed with trauma-based psychological problems such as addiction, PTSD, depression, and anxiety. His clinical expertise includes providing evidenced-based treatments such as motivational interviewing, cognitive behavioral therapy, acceptance and commitment therapy, and psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy. Consistent with his clinical interests, his research interests and expertise focus on contributing to the knowledge of and ability to help those suffering with substance use and mental health problems, understanding how to improve clinical outcomes through examining new treatments, and developing ways to conceptualize substance use and mental health problems through a strengths-based approach. Psychedelic research focuses on clinical trials with psilocybin for people with depression and exploring psychological mechanisms by which psilocybin improves mental health and functioning. Upcoming studies include exploring the use of short-acting psychedelics in laboratory and naturalistic settings and assessing the application of psychedelics in vulnerable populations including people of color who have experienced racial trauma and native Spanish-speaking individuals.
OSU psychedelics conference: https://psychedemiaconference.org/
Warren Flesch is a personal friend of Cody's. He is a musician who has worked in the addiction and recovery space, and he healed his struggles with addiction with the use of psychedelic plant medicines, specifically Ibogaine.
0:07 - Disclaimer
1:52 - Cody shares a personal story of his long time friends Xanax addiction
7:20 - Cody turns to Cannabis to alleviate the crash of pharmaceutical medications
10:55 - Healing addiction with Ibogaine teaser
12:02 - Cody introduces guests Dr. Allen Davis and Warren Flesch
12:43 - Clinical psychologist Dr. Allen Davis on plant medicines and addiction
15:46 - Addiction and the mind body should connection
17:05 - Addiction does not live inside of a drug
20:29 - Emotional wounds, painful states, mental health and psychedelic therapy
23:15 - Challenges surrounding clinical psychedelic research
30:00 - Psychological flexibility
35:10 - Clinical testimony post psilocybin therapy
38:17 - The Shamanic perspective on healing addiction with plant medicines with Warren Flesch
38:57 - ****trigger warning
39:15 - Warrens story
47:15 - Warren loses his job and starts using intravenous drugs
48:18 - Cocaine psychosis and nearly decapitating a someone with a hedge clipper
51:06 - Trying Iboga to relieve drug addiction
52:10 - The sacred ceremony
1:09:00 - Professional patients
1:09:36 - Suggestive states
1:15:35 - The origins of Alcoholics Anonymous
1:19:11 - Paradigms of addiction
1:42:20 - Plant medicines, recreational substances and intention
1:57:52 - Ibogaine treatment centers and risks
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Cody shares a teaching from the Grandmother Medicine about intergenerational traumas and masculine and feminine energies. Then Cody sits down with Lauren Taus to talk about intergenerational trauma, death, healing through the body, bringing Laurens father to the medicine, and more!
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Lauren Taus graduated summa cum laude from Barnard College at Columbia University in 2004 with a BA in Religion before continuing on to NYU for her Masters in Social Work. Lauren is licensed as a clinical therapist in both New York and California with a specialty in addiction and trauma treatment.
As a clinician, Lauren integrates alternative modalities of treatment into her work. She trained with David Emerson under the supervision of Bessel van der Kolk at The Trauma Institute in Boston in trauma sensitive yoga, and she’s trained by the Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) for MDMA assisted psychotherapy for complex PTSD
0:06 - Disclaimer
1:53 - Story from an Ayahuasca Ceremony
17:21 - Lauren Taus intro
18:20 - Lauren Taus interview, "you do not have to be good"
19:50 - Therapy, eating disorder, and how death can be an invitation to life
21:58 - Intergenerational Psychedelic Work
24:10 - Religion
26:43 - Returning to our own innate goodness and intuition
29:57 - Family Healing and bringing Lauren's dad to the medicine at age 75, and being more of who you really are
33:28 - Healing relationships and having more happiness and connection
34:30 - Generational Trauma
40:00 - Feeling and Healing through the body
45:44 - Gabor Mate and the Mother Wound
52:13 - Creating Consciously and dropping baggage to honor our ancestors
53:30 - creating hierarchies and intention
56:51 - drugs
1:07:20 - growth
1:11:48 - being in a body based practice to get into the body
1:16:25 - go deeper into your own heart!
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Cody shares ayahuasca ceremony stories and discusses how workaholism can alienate us from what matters most: our friends, family and loved ones. Then Cody sits down for a conversation with Poonacha Machaiah.
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Poonacha Machaiah is CEO at the Chopra Foundation, and co-founder & CEO of Seva.Love. Poonacha is a global thought leader with a unique knowledge and ability in combining both the wellbeing and technology domain. Poonacha applies his corporate expertise from 25 years as a business executive in multiple Fortune 100 companies and entrepreneurial initiatives to addressing societal and wellbeing challenges.
Over the years Poonacha has also collaborated with luminaries such as Deepak Chopra, MD, Shekhar Kapur, AR Rahman and many, many more.
0:05 - Disclaimer
1:50 - Cody talks about archetypes, his family and his Dad's recipe for success
3:45 - Workaholism and Adderall
6:00 - Cody's first Ayahuasca ceremony
6:48 - Ayahuasca visions
11:49 - Ceremony; 1 year later
12:26 - Cody's mother speaks about her family and her Ayahuasca experience
14:15 - Cody and Suzette go to Costa Rica
18:06 - Cody gets the sharing stick
20:25 - Cody astral projects
23:02 - You are ashamed because you put your work before your family...
24:28 - the word "priorities" is an oxymoron
26:50 - Poonacha's intro
27:41 - Interview with Poonacha Machaiah
29:36 - Who am I?
30:39 - ABOVE organization, and knowing how to fail
35:32 - Modalities of wellness, meditation and Self Inquiry
37:55 - Breath as an anchor, civilization has forgotten how to breathe
39:36 - your kids notice
40:33 - the world today has a presence problem
43:50 - connection vs. disconnection
49:30 - Poonacha dissolves his ego with Ayahuasca
1:08:09 - Taking the learnings into psychotherapy and other modalities
1:18:48 - Guided Self Inquiry Practice
1:20:23 - Rest in stillness, in silence, we are spiritual beings having a human experience
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In episode 4, Cody sits down with Jesse Gould - a retired Army Ranger and president of Heroic Hearts Project. After serving three tours in Afghanistan, Jesse founded the Heroic Hearts Project to spearhead the acceptance and use of ayahuasca therapy as a means of addressing the current mental health crisis among veterans.
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Heroic Hearts Project (HHP) is a registered 501(c)(3) nonprofit that connects military veterans struggling with trauma to psychedelic therapy options including ayahuasca, psilocybin, ibogaine, and ketamine treatments in combination with professional coaching and integration. HHP provides these veterans, who have often exhausted all of the resources offered by the Department of Veteran Affairs and don't know where to turn, with education about and access to these alternative healing modalities. HHP's mission is to restore hope and empower each veteran in his or her own healing process.
Secondarily, HHP aims to contribute to the growing base of psychedelic research, to educate the public on the potential of psychedelics based on the outcomes of this research, and to advocate for policy changes enabling increased and more equitable access to psychedelic therapies.
The Awakened Underground is a proud ambassador of the Heroic Hearts Project.
0:06 - Disclaimer
1:53 - Cody shares a story, talks about street fighting and breaking cycles of violence
10:43 - background on PTSD
14:20 - psychedelic medicines that are at the forefront of the treatment of PTSD
16:06 Cody introduces Jesse Gould
16:31 - What is Ayahuasca?
19:29 - Interview with Jesse Gould
20:27 - How Jesse discovered psychedelic medicines and their potential for helping Veterans
28:35 PTSD
30:03 - working with a social worker at the VA
31:38 - pharmaceuticals and alcohol
39:05 deciding to go to Spirit Quest in the jungle
45:15 - Jesse's first two nights with Ayahuasca
47:00 - drinking Ayahuasca with Cody's mom
48:44 - Jesse's third night with Ayahuasca
53:25 - Jesse's fourth night working with Ayahuasca
56:06 - integrating the experience
58:36 - reflecting on the experience
59:35 - Traumatic brain injuries in Veterans and healing CTE
1:10:46 - Beginning the Heroic Hearts Project
1:19:35 - risks
1:20:39 - what the HHP program entails
1:33:16 - the integration process and coaches for Veterans
1:39:07 The HHP Ambassador Program
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In this episode Cody talks about how his documentary called Plants Vs. Pills transformed to become The Awakened Underground. Cody Also interviews Dr. Albert Garcia-Romeu from Johns Hopkins.
Albert Garcia-Romeu, Ph.D. is a member of the Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences faculty at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and a Guest Researcher at the National Institute on Drug Abuse Intramural Neuroimaging Research Branch. His research examines the effects of psychedelics in humans, with a focus on psilocybin as an aid in the treatment of addiction. He received his doctorate in Psychology in 2012 from Sofia University in Palo Alto, CA, where he studied self-transcendence and meditation, and their relationship to mental health. His current research interests include clinical applications of psychedelics, mindfulness, and altered states of consciousness and their underlying neurobiological mechanisms, real-world drug use patterns and impacts on public health, the role of spirituality in mental health and addiction, and use of qualitative and mixed methodologies towards investigating these areas.
Time stamps:
0:06 - Disclaimer
1:50 - Cody tells the story of how Plants Vs. Pills became The Awakened Underground
15:39 - Intro: Dr. Albert Garcia-Romeu
16:29 - Interview with Dr. Garcia-Romeu
20:38 - The evolution of anti-depressants
25:45 - The inherent narrative that comes with the term "neuro-chemical imbalance"
35:30 - Yale research involving mice and psilocybin
37:25 - psychedelic therapies for pain tolerance and relief
42:05 - Psychedelics pointing us towards a sense of wholeness, healing as a whole and what that means for the "cosmic community"
51:50 - passing on trauma through genetic mechanisms and generational trauma
1:00:16 - Conceptions surrounding religion and spirituality
1:06:32 - Connecting to ourselves and to one another, and some risks and cautions regarding psychedelic medicines
1:09:37 - the medical model and other ways of working with psychedelic medicines
1:10:47 - the importance of having fun, and coming together to have a communal human experience
1:13:18 - The modern fire ceremony and different types of ecstatic ritual
1:17:58 - Respect for indigenous cultures and the importance of an equitable movement
1:22:57 - Capitalism and a health care system predicated on the for-profit model
1:42:00 - Psilocybin in incarceration settings for rehabilitation purposes
1:43:37 - Thinking in different ways about society, illness and psychedelics
1:44:29 - What big medicines have healing applications in society?
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In episode 2, Cody talks with Dr. Brüss about the science of psychedelics. Dr. Nicholas Brüss is a Co-Founder at the Psychedelic Coalition for Health, a Co-Therapist at the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), and a a licensed psychotherapist in Los Angeles, specializing in integrative, ketamine-assisted psychotherapy (KAP), and Internal Family Systems (IFS). He is also a therapist at the Los Angeles site for the MAPS-sponsored Phase III clinical trial of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for PTSD.
1:41 - Cody shares a brief history of psychedelics in the west
14:39 - Dr. Brüss' intro
15:54 - Interview with Dr. Nicholas Brüss
35:39 - Defining the term 'psychedelic'
54:25 - Dr. Brüss discusses the MAPS studies and findings for treating PTSD with MDMA
1:26:26 - Dr. Brüss shares the story of his dad's psilocybin experience after being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer
Resources:
aPracticeOfFreedom.com
@drnickbruss
@MAPSnews
@PsychedelicCoalitionforHealth
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Cody Blue shares his story of getting off of pharmaceuticals, then sits down with his father, Dee Snider and his family for a round table discussion about their struggle with pharmaceutical medications and their miraculous healing with psychedelic plant medicines.
0:11 - Disclaimer
1:14 - Cody's story
19:22 - Discussion with the Snider family
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