Most of us think peacemaking means keeping the peace — avoiding conflict, not ruffling feathers, smoothing things over. But what if that's actually not peacemaking?

In this episode, I sit down with Steven Collis — law professor, First Amendment scholar, and author of Habits of a Peacemaker — to dig into what productive dialogue actually looks like in real life. Not in a boardroom or a courtroom, but in your home, your family, your neighborhood.

We talk about why intellectual humility is the foundation of everything, how to reframe a conversation from a fight into a treasure hunt, why you probably don't need a strong opinion on most things, and what it actually means to listen — not just wait for your turn to talk.

This one is packed. I think you're going to love it.

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TIMESTAMPS

[00:00] — Why keeping the peace isn't the same as making peace

[01:30] — Introducing Steven Collis and how he got interested in peacemaking

[03:37] — What is peacemaking, really? Steven reframes it as "productive discourse"

[06:32] — Intellectual humility: the most important habit of a peacemaker

[07:40] — How to hold humility and conviction at the same time

[11:27] — Do you actually need an opinion on everything? (Probably not.)

[12:41] — Reframing conversations as a treasure hunt for understanding

[14:44] — Live example: how to defuse a heated argument as a third party

[19:02] — Real learning vs. being fed: how peacemakers gather information

[22:06] — How to navigate media bias and find overlap across opposing sources

[25:35] — Why you should hunt for the best argument against your own position

[30:48] — Comment sections, bots, and why online arguing is mostly a waste of your life

[34:11] — What to do when someone comes at you hard — and how to reframe it

[35:04] — What happens when someone genuinely won't engage? Is there a point of no return?

[38:50] — The lost art of pausing before you respond

[42:35] — Active listening: why most of us are terrible at it and how to get better

[50:41] — Going into a conversation with an open mind — what that actually looks like

[52:20] — Is peacemaking being weaponized? When "don't stir things up" becomes avoidance

[55:31] — The difference between being a peacemaker and being a pushover

[1:04:45] — How to have productive dialogue with someone who has more power than you

[1:09:48] — Finding where the real disagreement actually lives

[1:13:00] — If you remember one thing: don't give up on becoming a peacemaker

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Five macro-level lessons I have learned from studying Iran's history.

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Today's guest, Sahar Delijani, is the author of Children of the Jacaranda Tree, an internationally acclaimed novel, translated into 32 languages and published in more than 75 countries. Her writing has appeared in The New York Times, Literary Hub, LARB, Jewish Currents, BOMB, McSweeney’s and elsewhere. Her second novel, For Every Person You Kill, is forthcoming in Spring 2027.

In this episode, Sahar shares her family’s story — including being born in Evin Prison — and reflects on Iranian identity, cultural resilience, and the role of joy, history, and women in today’s movement for freedom. We also discuss what solidarity can look like from the international community, and how stories and literature can help humanize a struggle that’s often reduced to geopolitics.

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This is Part 3 of 3 of the Iran 101 series: a foundational history of Iran for those who know little to nothing about it. This episode covers 1981 to early 2026.

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This is Part 2 of 3 of the Iran 101 series: a foundational history of Iran for those who know little to nothing about it. This episode covers 1953 to 1980.

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This is Part 1 of 3 of the Iran 101 series: a foundational history of Iran for those who know little to nothing about Iranian history. This episode covers the 1800s to the 1953 coup.

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*Correction: When discussing the AIOC (Anglo Iranian Oil Company)'s revenue, I say 40 million dollars, but I what I meant is 40 million euros. 

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This is a Cultural Preface to the Iran 101 series. It is not designed to be entirely comprehensive, as no culture or people are the same. The hope is to help listeners meet the Iranian people before they study their history.

Special thanks to Ershiya and Lana Firoozi for their help with this episode; their attention to detail and generosity cannot be overstated.

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A brief, approachable history of Greenland for those who know little to nothing about it. My hope is that this gives some nuance and context to modern headlines about this strategic island and the people who live there. Keep in mind that this is not comprehensive—just a jumping off point for further learning.

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Today's guest, Diego Vicentini, is a Venezuelan film writer, director & editor. His debut feature film “Simón”—which exposes human rights violations committed by the Venezuelan regime—was able to overcome censorship in Venezuela and was nominated for the 38th Goya Awards (Spain’s Academy Awards) in the Best Ibero-American film category in representation of Venezuela and reached the #6 spot on Netflix's Global Top 10 in its first week on the platform. Since making the film, Diego is not able to go back to Venezuela due to threat of imprisonment.

In this episode, Diego shares about the Venezuela diaspora, growing up Venezuela and the United States, his film Simón and the journey he took to have it shown publicly in Venezuela, and his advice for non-Venezuelans when it comes to Venezuelan politics.

Learn more about his film, Simón, at simonmovie.com.

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Five macro-level lessons I learned from studying Venezuela's history that I hope to remember.

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This is Part 3 of 3 of the Venezuela 101 series: a foundational history of Venezuela. This episode is a concise history of Venezuela from 2013 - early 2026, designed for those who know little to nothing about Venezuela. This episode covers:

• Chávez’s death and Maduro’s fragile rise to power

• Oil collapse, hyperinflation, and economic freefall

• Daily life under shortages, black markets, and repression

• Mass protests, loss of legitimacy, and historic migration

• U.S. sanctions, drug accusations, and Maduro’s 2026 capture

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