- 35 minutes 48 secondsEp 100: Happy Podcast Bday, and Schemas
We hit the Centennial! In our 100th episode, Davy and PJ look back on 4 years of our design systems chatter, before diving deep into the future of design systems: a community-driven, machine-readable schema that moves us past the "Figma-as-Source-of-Truth" era.
7 May 2026, 7:05 am - 36 minutes 16 secondsEp 99: Durable vs Temporal Artifacts
Davy talks about trading a week of manual Figma updates for a "code-to-canvas" workflow that gets us "close enough" while PJ talks about running multiple worker-based agents to do production and qa work in tandem. Are these burner tasks?
24 April 2026, 7:06 am - 36 minutes 25 secondsEp 98: Zeroheight's 2026 DS Report Chatter
Davy and PJ dive into the Zeroheight's 2026 Design Systems Survey to figure out why 61% of teams are drowning in work while a third of them still have "no plans" to automate—plus, Davy forces PJ to listen to some truly questionable AI-generated design jokes.
3 April 2026, 7:00 am - 30 minutes 52 secondsEp 97: Tokenize Everything
Davy and PJ dive into the future of design tokens, exploring how to "tokenize everything" from complex color transformations (OKLCH) to utility tokens for motion and content strings.
18 March 2026, 7:05 am - 29 minutes 25 secondsEp 96: Trying Out New Tooling
Davy and PJ discuss why the future of design workflow isn't just better handoff—it’s starting with the code itself.
24 February 2026, 8:03 am - 38 minutes 10 secondsEp 95: When Docs Becomes a Liability
Davy and PJ discuss the "liability" of stale documentation and why AI still needs human oversight. They explore using Figma’s API to automate visual updates and kill the "pain in the butt" of manual maintenance.
11 February 2026, 8:05 am - 30 minutes 6 secondsEp 94: Tech Dependencies
Building vs. Inheriting: Davy and PJ discuss the performance cost of design system dependencies. Learn how to choose the right framework without bloating your system or losing control of your architecture.
23 January 2026, 8:00 am - 30 minutes 28 secondsEp 93: 2026 and our 4th Podcast Bday
Davy and PJ celebrate four years of Design System Office Hours by looking ahead at the shifting landscape of 2026. They explore how interoperability, open-source tooling, and AI-driven documentation being major themes to uplevel design system practices.
5 January 2026, 8:05 am - 23 minutes 32 secondsEp 92: Naming is Hard
Davy and PJ tackle the notorious difficulty of naming in design systems, advocating for human-readable, descriptive language over "cute" metaphors and discussing how AI is making file cleanliness more critical than ever.
18 December 2025, 8:05 am - 26 minutes 59 secondsEp 91: The Erosion of Open Design Systems
Davy and PJ discuss a potential trend of major design systems going from public to internal only, stressing that public documentation is the ultimate forcing function for quality and a huge win for the community.
4 December 2025, 8:05 am - 31 minutes 27 secondsEp 90: WTF is Craft
Davy and PJ talk about the term "craft," emphasizing that high-quality design work requires designers to understand engineering constraints and that a good design system needs to provide education, not just components and prototypes.
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