Design System Office Hours

Davy Fung + PJ Onori

Davy and PJ, design system practitioners talk about design-led product ownership, scaling and adoption, community and engagement, design system team models, and much more.

  • 30 minutes 6 seconds
    Ep 94: Tech Dependencies

    Building vs. Inheriting: Davy and PJ discuss the performance cost of design system dependencies. Learn how to choose the right framework without bloating your system or losing control of your architecture.

    23 January 2026, 8:00 am
  • 30 minutes 28 seconds
    Ep 93: 2026 and our 4th Podcast Bday

    Davy and PJ celebrate four years of Design System Office Hours by looking ahead at the shifting landscape of 2026. They explore how interoperability, open-source tooling, and AI-driven documentation being major themes to uplevel design system practices.

    5 January 2026, 8:05 am
  • 23 minutes 32 seconds
    Ep 92: Naming is Hard

    Davy and PJ tackle the notorious difficulty of naming in design systems, advocating for human-readable, descriptive language over "cute" metaphors and discussing how AI is making file cleanliness more critical than ever.


    18 December 2025, 8:05 am
  • 26 minutes 59 seconds
    Ep 91: The Erosion of Open Design Systems

    Davy and PJ discuss a potential trend of major design systems going from public to internal only, stressing that public documentation is the ultimate forcing function for quality and a huge win for the community.


    4 December 2025, 8:05 am
  • 31 minutes 27 seconds
    Ep 90: WTF is Craft

    Davy and PJ talk about the term "craft," emphasizing that high-quality design work requires designers to understand engineering constraints and that a good design system needs to provide education, not just components and prototypes.


    13 November 2025, 8:05 am
  • 40 minutes 2 seconds
    Ep 89: Figma Slots Conference

    Davy talks to PJ about his trip to see Figma's slots conference, formerly known as Schema. We talk about the releases and rejoice on a focus on the main editor again.

    30 October 2025, 7:30 am
  • 26 minutes 41 seconds
    Ep 88: Stay in Learning Mode w/ Ben Callahan

    Davy talks to friend of the program, Ben Callahan from Sparkbox about his series The Question, which brings together design system designers bi-weekly to share and learn collaboratively in a 60-min workshop.

    15 October 2025, 7:05 am
  • 28 minutes 1 second
    Ep 87: Thinking Like an Engineer

    Davy and PJ talk about how amongst many good engineering traits, the rigor, and ways they work should be more adopted by product designers and specially us, maintainers. If we can track, version, and test our work as rigorously as engineers, we would be in a higher quality bar.

    30 September 2025, 7:05 am
  • 35 minutes 57 seconds
    Ep 86: I'm New to the TEAM w/ Guy Segal

    Davy talks special co-host, Guy Segal, about his first month at his new design systems job at Atlassian, and the fun of being a newbie after the first 30 days, when the going really starts getting tough.

    18 September 2025, 5:05 pm
  • 37 minutes 32 seconds
    Ep 85: Design Systems Ambassador

    Davy and PJ talk about the role of our designers on the ground, we call them our ambassadors. These good eggs not only inform our day-to-day product improvements, but help keep up informed across the org.

    4 September 2025, 7:00 am
  • 47 minutes 10 seconds
    Ep 84: Design Systems Interviewing w/ Chela

    Davy with friend of the program, Chela Giraldo talk about their recent experiences looking for a new design systems, and the struggles with developing the "design system portfolio" that can tell our unique stories.

    Chela has a recent post about it, which you should check out on Design System Collective.

    15 August 2025, 7:05 am
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