White Hot Hate: Agent Pale Horse

CBC

<p>FBI undercover agent Scott Payne’s job was to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times: outlaw bikers, drug cartels and the international neo-Nazi networks hellbent on inciting a race war. </p><p><br></p><p>He was taking down these groups from within. And Scott was good at it — people confided in him their most audacious plans for mass violence and domestic terrorism.</p><p><br></p><p>In the second season of White Hot Hate, host Michelle Shephard gives you an unvarnished view of a life undercover. Because after a 28-year-long career pretending to be somebody else, Agent Payne is ready to tell his side of the story. <strong>Coming March 25, 2025.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><span></span>This series was produced alongside a book co-written by Scott Payne and Michelle Shephard titled Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America's Nazis.</p>

  • 46 minutes 15 seconds
    Season 2, Episode 6: Get Behind Me, Satan

    We return to Scott’s time with The Base, the neo-Nazi accelerationist group bent on sparking a race war. Taking down this violent cell of white supremacists takes everything he’s learned in his decades-long undercover career. 


    And then… retirement. For someone who has spent his whole life pretending to be someone he’s not: who is Scott Payne? 

    29 April 2025, 8:10 am
  • 35 minutes 49 seconds
    Season 2, Episode 5: Klan Kologne

    Scott re-enters the life of an undercover agent with a new assignment: infiltrate a chapter of the KKK. With white supremacist violence on the rise, he finds himself in the middle of a field in Alabama - about to join the Klan. 

    22 April 2025, 8:10 am
  • 44 minutes 28 seconds
    Season 2, Episode 4: Do Not Recommend

    Scott is deep undercover in the Outlaws, becoming close friends with members of the dangerous biker gang. But you can only get so deep for so long. And now Scott is at risk of losing everything: his marriage, his body and his mind.

    15 April 2025, 6:10 am
  • 34 minutes 6 seconds
    Season 2, Episode 3: Who’s A Rat Dot Com

    Scott Payne is a big, intimidating, Harley-riding guy. He’s the perfect choice to infiltrate the Outlaws Motorcycle Club. For him, it’s a dream assignment - getting inside an international criminal organization whose arch-rival is the Hell's Angels. 


    Then, things go bad. Really bad. 

    8 April 2025, 8:10 am
  • 31 minutes 43 seconds
    Season 2, Episode 2: You Got Anything for Rednecks?

    How does a young, self-proclaimed redneck end up becoming one of the most storied undercover agents of our time? We trace Agent Payne’s path from a satan-worshiping southern high school student, all the way to becoming a “Hillbilly Donnie Brasco.” 

    1 April 2025, 5:10 am
  • 30 minutes 59 seconds
    Season 2, Episode 1: The Insider

    After chatting online, it’s FBI undercover Special Agent Scott Payne's first in-person meeting with The Base. Alone. Now he just needs to convince the international neo-Nazi network that he's one of them.


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    25 March 2025, 4:10 am
  • 3 minutes 21 seconds
    Introducing White Hot Hate Season 2: Agent Pale Horse

    Coming March 25, 2025. FBI undercover agent Scott Payne’s job was to infiltrate the most dangerous gangs of our times: outlaw bikers, drug cartels and the international neo-Nazi networks hellbent on inciting a race war. In the second season of White Hot Hate, host Michelle Shephard gives you an unvarnished view of a life undercover. Because after a 28-year-long career pretending to be somebody else, Agent Payne is ready to tell his side of the story.


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    18 March 2025, 6:10 am
  • 39 minutes 4 seconds
    Season 1, Episode 6: “Give them what they deserve”

    Patrik Mathews could be facing up to 25 years in prison for U.S. firearm offences. His and others’ arrests may have destroyed the appeal of accelerationist groups like The Base — but where is the movement heading now? For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/white-hot-hate-transcripts-listen-1.6226840

    24 November 2021, 5:10 am
  • 48 minutes 11 seconds
    Season 1, Episode 5: The ‘Network Administrator’

    We speak with ‘Roman Wolf,’ the founder of The Base. Who is he really? Why did he start a white supremacist network? And with half a dozen members behind bars, what comes next? For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/white-hot-hate-transcripts-listen-1.6226840

    16 November 2021, 5:10 am
  • 28 minutes 38 seconds
    Season 1, Episode 4: “It only takes a few”

    Some members of The Base are planning deadly attacks that they hope will spark a race war. Will they be stopped, before it's too late? For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/white-hot-hate-transcripts-listen-1.6226840

    9 November 2021, 5:10 am
  • 35 minutes 10 seconds
    Season 1, Episode 3: Hate Camps

    Outed as a member of The Base, Patrik Mathews disappears. His abandoned truck is discovered near the Canada-U.S. border. He could be heading to a training camp. But what exactly are they training for? For transcripts of this series, please visit: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/podcastnews/white-hot-hate-transcripts-listen-1.6226840

    2 November 2021, 4:10 am
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