Nothing To Wear

Mamamia Podcasts

<p>The show that knows the right outfit has the power to transform your mood and your confidence. Hosted by Mamamia’s Leigh Campbell and the style collective, women of all shapes, ages and styles will help you figure out what to buy, how to wear it and how to feel great in it. No topic is off limits. If you can wear it, we will talk about it.</p>

  • 36 minutes 37 seconds
    The Expensive Mistake You’re Making With Your Wardrobe

    This week, Leigh is joined by Kerryn from Aura Personal Styling to debunk the myth that personal stylists are only for A-Listers and Finance CEOs. It turns out, hiring a pro might actually be the secret to saving in the long run.

    They dive into the number one thing missing in nearly everybody's closet and the "ruthless wardrobe cull" you need to do immediately. Plus, they talk about the unexpected return of fringing (yes, really) and why your next designer bag should probably be a 2000s vintage find from Depop.

    Leigh’s Picks: Handbags 

    Leigh’s Budget: Genuine Leather Jade Weave Shoulder Bag, $80.

    Leigh’s Mid-Range: JW Pei Hana Faux Suede Medium Tote Bag, $217.

    Leigh’s Boujie: Oroton Mica Mini Bowler, $449.

    Kerryn’s Picks: Slouch Boots

    Kerryn's Budget: Asos Design Cordelia Fringe Boots $126 (on sale $50.40).

    Kerryn's Mid-Range: Felle Immy Suede, $320.

    Kerryn's Boujie: Isabel Marant Edrika suede ankle boots, $2380.

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    CREDITS:

    Hosts: Leigh Campbell 

    Guest: Kerryn Rutherford

    Producer: Zara Sengstock & Ella Maitland 

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know, some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

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    14 April 2026, 7:30 pm
  • 40 minutes 31 seconds
    Our Secrets To Nailing The Cooler-Months: Layering Formulas &amp; The Best Hero Pieces

    Winter is officially on the doorstep, and let’s be honest, it’s the most expensive season to dress for. Between the wool coats and the leather boots, your bank account can take a serious hit before the first frost even lands. This week, Lucinda and Tam are sharing their top tips for looking chic this Winter on a budget. 

    They’re breaking down the "Intentional Layering" formula, a 4-step method inspired by Erin Wasson that makes your basic white tee and old knits look like a curated street-style moment. Plus, Tam makes a case for the Statement Jacket being the only hero piece you actually need to buy this year, and why Target and Kmart are currently winning the outerwear game.

    EVERYTHING MENTIONED:

    Tam’s Picks: Margot Inspired Riding Boots

    Tam’s Budget: Therapy Albany Tall Boot Black, $139.95.

    Tam’s Mid-Range: Assembly Label Stevie Leather Riding Boot, $300

    Tam’s Boujie: Frye Campus 14L boots at Free People, US $498 (around $725.80.)

    Lucinda's Picks: Maxi Trench Coats

    Lucinda’s Budget: Kmart Maxi Barn Jacket $45

    Lucinda’s Mid-Range: Assembly Label Ivy Coat $280 

    Lucinda’s Boujie: Emerson Studios Wool Longline Coat $400 (down from $629)

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    CREDITS:

    Hosts: Lucinda Pikkat & Tamara Holland

    Producer: Ella Maitland

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know—some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

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    7 April 2026, 7:30 pm
  • 39 minutes 30 seconds
    From Deadline Slump to Book Tour Glam: Inside Sally Hepworth’s Wardrobe

    What does one of Australia’s biggest authors wear when she’s "in the vortex" finishing a bestseller? Spoiler: It involves Qantas pyjamas and skipped showers.

    This week, Leigh is joined by the iconic author Sally Hepworth to pull back the curtain on her eclectic, effortless style. From her secret to scoring $38 vintage YSL on Depop to the reality of living with alopecia and how she matches her outfits to her "hair of the day," Sally is baring it all.

    Plus, they discuss why the "Maybe Tub" is the ultimate decluttering hack you need to try immediately, and why a red lip is the only accessory required to look like you’ve got your life together.

    BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

    Leigh’s Picks - Denim Paper Bag Shorts:

    Budget Pick: Breakers Polly Paper Bag Denim Short, $30

    Mid-range Pick: Ceres Life Darcy Relaxed Everyday Short, $79.99

    Boujie Pick:  Marant Etoile Titea denim shorts, $460 (never buy retail - great item to buy pre-loved).

    Sally's Picks - Denim Midi Skirts:

    Budget Pick: Atmos&here Aston Denim Midi Skirt, $79.99.

    Mid-range Pick: Veronika Maine Cotton Denim Belted Midi Skirt, $249.

    Boujie Pick: Aje Carmen Denim Midi Skirt, $429 (currently on sale for $260).

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    CREDITS:

    Hosts: Leigh Campbell 

    Guest: Sally Hepworth

    Producer: Ella Maitland

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    31 March 2026, 6:30 pm
  • 40 minutes 3 seconds
    Micro Trends Are Officially Dying... Here’s What's Next

    Is it just us, or is there a new "-core" aesthetic popping up every time you refresh your feed? This week, Leigh and Lucinda are calling time on the relentless cycle of micro trends.

    From the "Tomato Girl" summering in the Mediterranean to the "Coastal Grandma" sipping wine in the Hamptons, they’re breaking down why we’re all feeling a little bit of "trend fatigue." They discuss the shift toward purpose-driven dressing, the rise of the underconsumption-core movement, and why your next favourite designer piece might actually be waiting for you on Depop.

    EVERYTHING MENTIONED:

    Lucinda's Current Recommendations:

    @emilymstochl.

    Read the September 18 here.

    @maybetamsin.

    BOUJIE TO BUDGET:

    Leigh’s Picks - oversize knits:

    Budget Pick: Cotton On Luxe Crew Neck Jumper, $49.99

    Mid-range Pick: VRG GRL Sam Knit Check Jumper, $149

    Boujie Pick: Damson Madder Rene Crew Jumper, $230

    Lucinda’s Picks - oversized leather jacket:

    Budget Pick: Depop Genuine Leather Jacket $180

    Mid-range Pick: Hemi Blur High Neck New Zealand Leather Jacket, $516 

    Boujie Pick: The Real Real Balenciaga Vintage 2013, Leather Biker Jacket From the 2013 Collection by Alexander Wang. Lamb Skin $895.

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    CREDITS:

    Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Lucinda Pikkat

    Producer: Ella Maitland

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    24 March 2026, 6:30 pm
  • 37 minutes 14 seconds
    The 7 Things Stylish Women Always Do

    What actually makes someone "stylish"? Is it a massive budget, or is it just knowing which buttons to leave undone? This week, Leigh and Chelsea are back together to decode the 7 habits of truly stylish women—from the "quality over quantity" rule that will save your laundry (and your wallet) to the one "fashion faux pas" that stylish women actually do every single day.

    Plus, Chelsea's algorithm is currently a shrine to 90s icon Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, and they’re discussing why Gen Z is suddenly obsessed with her minimalist uniform. They also tackle the "baggy jeans in boots" trend (is it cool or just uncomfortable?) and the faux fur comeback that’s looking more refined this time around.

    EVERYTHING MENTIONED:

    Chelsea's Boujie: The Frankie Shop Arlise Trench Coat €325.

    Leigh's Boujie: Neuw Jonesy Singlet White $69.95

    Chelsea's Budget: Uniqlo Double-Breasted Jacket $99.90.

    Leigh's Budget: Sportsgirl Australian Cotton Scoop Neck Tank $19.95.

    GET YOUR FASHION FIX:

    Get 25% off Nala with your Mamamia subscription. Click here to get your code ends April 1st.

    Watch us on Youtube the best bits from this episode goes live at 8pm tonight!

    Follow us on Instagram

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    Feedback? We’re listening! Call the pod phone on 02 8999 9386 or email us at [email protected]

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    CREDITS:

    Hosts: Leigh Campbell & Chelsea Hui 

    Producer: Ella Maitland

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    17 March 2026, 6:30 pm
  • 38 minutes 13 seconds
    What To Wear Right Now: Donny Galella Solves Your Most Relatable Fashion Questions

    Autumn has officially arrived, and while the retailers are already dropping their winter collections, we’re stuck in that "is it cold or is it hot?" limbo. This week, Leigh is joined by the man who can make anyone feel like a million bucks without spending it: celebrity stylist Donny Galella.

    Donny is back to solve your most pressing seasonal fashion dilemmas. From how to look chic in a downpour (without looking like Dora the Explorer) to the "6 shoes" you need for a perfect capsule wardrobe, he’s sharing the realistic hacks he uses with his A-list clients.

    Plus, we’re talking about the death of the "Clean Girl" aesthetic and the rise of Maximalism, the viral "funnel neck" trend, and why you should never, ever trust your bathroom mirror.

    Donny's Splurge: Karen Millen Brushed Wool Funnel Neck Tailored Short Coat, $614.

    Donny's Mid-Range: MNG Wool Blend Funnel-Neck Coat, $219.95.

    Donny's Budget: Target Denim Funnel Neck Jacket, $50.

    Leigh’s Boujie: Dazie (via The Iconic) Vela Bomber Jacket, $119.95.

    Leigh’s Budget: Amazon Chunky Acrylic Knit Scarf.

    GET YOUR FASHION FIX:

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    CREDITS:

    Hosts: Leigh Campbell

    Guest: Donny Galella

    Producer: Ella Maitland

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    10 March 2026, 6:30 pm
  • 36 minutes 15 seconds
    The No-Spend Refresh: How To Re-Style Your "Maybes" Into "Must-Wears"

    This week, Leigh is back! And she’s joined by wardrobe strategist Sam to solve the "too many clothes, zero outfits" dilemma. Sam is an ex-Topshop buyer turned minimalism maven who believes your personal style isn't found at the shops—it’s already hiding in your closet.

    They’re breaking down why we’re addicted to the "dopamine hit" of a new purchase  and the simple styling hacks—like the "hanging method"—that will help you finally edit your life. Plus, they discuss the "bouncer" you need at your wardrobe door to stop impulse buys in their tracks.

    Leigh's Boujie: Fuschia Shaw The Arden Coat (in Canvas), $479.

    Leigh's Budget: Sussan Everyday Leather Belt, $39.95.

    Sam's Boujie: Khaite Black Belt

    Sam's Budget: Assembly Label Waverly Jacket, $180.

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    CREDITS:

    Hosts: Leigh Campbell

    Guest: Sam Preston

    Producer: Ella Maitland

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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    3 March 2026, 6:30 pm
  • 35 minutes 59 seconds
    Why You’re Getting The "Ick" From Your Sneakers (And What To Wear Instead)

    Are sneakers dead? Or are they just "on ice"? This week, Tam and Lucinda are diving deep into the shifting world of footwear and why your favourite Sambas might be losing their cool factor. From the "Sneaker Economy" (where shoes can cost as much as a house) to the rise of the "Sneakarena," they’re breaking down what we’re actually putting on our feet in 2026.

    Plus, if you’re suffering from sneaker fatigue, Tam has the definitive guide to the "Fancy Flat" and the boots you’ll be wearing all through Autumn.

    EVERYTHING MENTIONED:

    Tam’s Boujie: Alohas Ambar Rift Black Leather Ankle Boots $480.

    Lucinda’s Boujie: Vivaia Square-Toe Lace-Up Satin Sneakerina $268.

    Tam’s Budget: Seed Heritage Marley Mesh Mule $149.95.

    Lucinda’s Budget: Charles & Keith Lace-Up Slip-On Sneakers - Taupe $119.

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    CREDITS:

    Hosts: Tamara Holland & Lucinda Pikkat

    Producer: Ella Maitland

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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    24 February 2026, 6:30 pm
  • 35 minutes 5 seconds
    The Noughties 2.0 Just Dropped... Here’s What We’re Doing Differently

    The aesthetic us millennials had thought we’d left in the vault for good is officially back. This week, Tam and Lucinda are diving into the Noughties Fashion Revival—from the red carpets of the early 2000s to Gen Z's new takes on some of these classic trends. 

    They’re unpacking the "tiny girl, big bag" era, the return of the iconic Chloe Paddington, and why JW Anderson's Pigeon Bag from And Just Like That has become a cautionary tale for the costume designers of the new Devil Wears Prada sequel.

    The girls also tackle the trends that give us all a little fashion PTSD: low-rise jeans, dresses over pants, and the trucker hat’s high-fashion makeover. Whether you're leaning into the nostalgia or watching from a safe distance, here is how to do Noughties 2.0.

    Lucinda's Boujie: Polo Ralph Lauren Cotton Canvas Vintage Ralph's Garage Trucker Hat, $152.40.

    Tam's Boujie: Araminta James AJ Terry Pant Mocha, $149.

    Lucinda's Budget: Cotton On Sandy Mini Skirt, $49.99. 

    Tam's Budget: Best & Less Womens Straight Leg Terry Fleece Trackpant, $25.

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    CREDITS:

    Hosts: Tamara Holland & Lucinda Pikkat 

    Producer: Ella Maitland

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    17 February 2026, 6:30 pm
  • 43 minutes 32 seconds
    An Ex-Vogue Fashion Director's Date Night Outfit Formula

    Valentine’s Day is just around the corner, and whether you’re coupled up, single, or planning a night out with your best friends, the goal is the same: feeling like the most confident version of yourself.

    This week, Tam is joined by fashion powerhouse and former Vogue China fashion director, Grace Lam. She’s also one of the hosts of Unleashed, Mamamia’s brand new podcast for Gen X women who need a laugh right now. She's worked with the likes of Jude Law, Hugh Grant, Kate Moss, and Naomi Campbell... but today she's helping us get ready for date night.

    She's taking us through her top international styling tips, which brands we need to be watching right now, and why she wants you to stop buying "boring" staples and start raiding your partner's wardrobe. Plus, the $80 shoes she gets stopped for in the street, and why "intentional styling" is the secret to never having a wardrobe meltdown again.

    Listen to Mamamia's brand new podcast Unleashed, wherever you get your podcasts. 

    EVERYTHING MENTIONED:

    Chaumet Jewellery

    Chanel Handbags

    Grece Ghanem

    Deering

    Prank Project

    Rixo

    BOUJIE & BUDGET:

    Grace's Boujie: High Tide

    J.W. Anderson.

    Tam's Boujie: St. Agni Thong Detail Heel $429.

    Grace's Budget: Clementine Double-Strap Slingback Mary Jane Pumps - Red $96.

    Tam's Budget: Heaven Mayhem Clemmie Earrings $162.

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Tamara Holland

    Guest: Grace Lam

    Producer: Ella Maitland

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    10 February 2026, 6:30 pm
  • 34 minutes 9 seconds
    Heatproof Your Wardrobe: Summer Fabrics, Breathable Silhouettes &amp; The Return Of Thongs

    It’s February, it’s officially sweltering, and the struggle to stay chic without melting is very real. This week on Nothing To Wear, Chelsea is joined by curve model, content creator, and fashion insider Jessica Lucey to unpack the ultimate guide to heatproof fashion.

    From the specific silhouettes that promote airflow to the "neutral-adjacent" colours that are taking over the runways (hello, butter yellow!), Jessica shares her expert tips on how to break the fashion "rules". Plus, we’re getting into the nitty-gritty of summer dressing: the best moisture-wicking bras to combat boob sweat, why thongs are officially back, and the $50 sun hat you’ll be wearing every single weekend.

    EVERYTHING MENTIONED:

    Chelsea's Boujie: DISH Chocolate Silk Skirt $229

    Jessica's Boujie: Alaïa Mesh Mules $1320

    Chelsea's Budget: The Lullaby Club Gingham Sun Hat Red Gingham $49.95

    Jessica's Budget: Therapy Shoes

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    CREDITS:

    Host: Chelsea Hui 

    Guest: Jessica Lucey

    Producer: Ella Maitland

    Audio Producer: Jacob Round

    Video Producer: Artemi Kokkaris

    Just so you know — some of the product links in these notes are affiliate links, which means we might earn a small commission if you buy through them. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, and it helps support the show. Happy shopping!

    Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

    Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    3 February 2026, 6:30 pm
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