Netflix and Amazon prepare to celebrate NFL Christmas, the PVOD vs. Theatrical debate rages on, Gunsmoke is having a moment, Max rebrands again, Jason watched some Netflix ads, and did we mention that Julia is back?

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NFL to air 3 games on Christmas Day 2025, Netflix partnership continues: Source - The Athletic

Sources: NFL ‘Virtual Lock’ to Opt Out of Media-Rights Deals

New York Yankees Boss Thanks Donald Trump For Helping YES Resolve Carriage Fight With Comcast

'Wicked’ Made $100 Million On PVOD - CinemaCon

Michael O’Leary, CEO Of Cinema United, Slams Shorter Theatrical Windows

Matt Belloni's funny post

‘Reacher,’ ‘Gunsmoke’: Streaming Ratings March 3-9, 2025

Max’s rebranded logo and colors look very HBO | The Verge

My unsuccessful journey into Netflix’s ad tier – Six Colors

MLB is trying to open up local streaming, but it doesn't solve the problem of reaching casual fans. Also: a weird café in Korea and our TV picks. (Downstream+ listeners also get: British TV vs. streamers, deep programming thoughts, and Looney Tunes.)

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Josef Adalian

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TV Picks:

Joe: The Pitt (Max), Severance (TV+), White Lotus (Max)

Jason: The Outlaws (Prime Video)

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MLB, NBC Sports Regional Networks to stream Athletics, Giants, Phillies games

Press release: New ROOT SPORTS stream app offers all Mariners games airing on ROOT SPORTS

The MLB/ESPN separation and the future of ESPN, the Nationals escape from MASN, Fox's sports streaming service quandary, interesting tidbits from the Sloan Sports Conference, and our TV picks!

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Will Carroll

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TV Picks:

Will: "Fear" on Prime Video

Jason: "Shoresy" on Hulu

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Inside the MLB-ESPN Split - Puck

Stephen A. Smith, ESPN agree to $100M contract that lets him talk more about politics: Sources - The Athletic

Disney+ to Debut SC+: ESPN SportsCenter Spinoff for More Casual Fans

MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference - Sports Analytics, Business, & Technology.

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Super Bowl streaming, NFL dreams, and TV picks from us and listeners. (Downstream+ subscribers also get: Seeking "Paradise" on broadcast TV, Netflix taunts Apple TV users, and a SNL50 triumph.)

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Josef Adalian

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Listener picks: The Recruit, Boiling Point, Last Tango in Halifax, Happy Valley

Joe's pick: Paradise (Hulu)

Jason's pick: "Flow" on Max

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Super Bowl LIX on FOX and Tubi Generates More Than $800 Million in Gross Advertising Revenue - foxcorporation

Live Blogging of FOX's Super Bowl Stream on Tubi and vMVPDs, Across Multiple Devices - Dan Rayburn - StreamingMediaBlog.com

Will Carroll returns on Super Bowl week, and we discuss Super Bowl 4K, Tubi, and the enduring power of communal live events. Also: ESPN Flagship and Fox's streaming play, a new RSN is heard from, Apple and MLS make tweaks, your letters, and TV picks!

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Will Carroll

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TV Picks:

Will: Ludwig (coming to Britbox, Elsbeth (Paramount+)

Jason: Detectorists (Acorn, Pluto TV, Roku, Hoopla)

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Fox does streaming (Apple News/WSJ)

2025 Super Bowl Will Stream for Free on Tubi, Fox Streaming Service

Fox’s 1080p to 4K Upscaling Workflow for Super Bowl 2025: An Engaging Debate - Streaming Learning Center

Comcast Sales, Profit Beat as ‘Wicked’ Lifts Film Studio - Bloomberg

Altitude Sports, Comcast end long-running dispute to televise Nuggets and Avalanche games | AP News

Apple adds Xfinity, DirecTV as MLS Season Pass distributors – Six Colors

Rangers Sports Network Boss Explains Why Team Managing Own TV Business

Texas Rangers: ‘We’re in better hands managing our own risk’

Comcast Sales, Profit Beat as ‘Wicked’ Lifts Film Studio - Bloomberg

(3) Under The Knife | Will Carroll | Substack

Joe Adalian joins Jason to discuss Netflix's big moves, price hikes, and what drove Jason to cancel it. Also we answer your letters and make some TV picks! (Downstream+ members also get: the return of CNN+, death of Venu, and Tubi spikes the football.)

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Josef Adalian

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TV Picks:

Joe: New Hollywood Squares (CBS/P+); The Pitt (Max)

Jason: Severance (Apple TV+), SNL50 (Peacock), St. Denis Medical (Peacock)

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Netflix Q4 2024 Earnings: Subscriber Tally Passes 301M, Smashing Estimates

Netflix Q4 2024 Earnings: NFL and Jake Paul Help Drive Subscribers

Netflix Raises Prices in First Major Hike Since 2023

Will Carroll joins for a mega Sports Corner: Fubo meets Hulu to enable Venu, Netflix goes full force into live sports, how football dominates American TV, NFL announcers, and our TV picks!

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TV Picks:

Will: Traitors (US and UK, Peacock), Landman (JERRY JONES!, Paramount+)

Jason: Ludwig (UK, coming to Britbox), All Creatures Great and Small (UK, PBS)

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Jeopardy: Behind the Scenes With Ken Jennings

Disney Deal Will Combine Hulu + Live TV With Fubo, Ending Venu Lawsuit

NFL Owns 72 of Top 100 Broadcasts as Pols Undermine Sports' TV Might

Arctos co-founder on the future of private equity in sports

Takeaways from Netflix’s NFL Christmas ratings door-buster: The streaming giant could be here to stay - The Athletic

Netflix Spent $5B on WWE Monday Night Raw, Convinced Me to Watch

Netflix secures U.S. broadcast rights for 2027, 2031 Women’s World Cups - The Athletic

Netflix Scores FIFA Women's World Cup Exclusive Rights for 2027, 2031

Netflix’s FIFA Women’s World Cup deal feels like a page out of the pay-to-play book: Rueter - The Athletic

‘Why walk away?’ Al Michaels wants a 39th season calling NFL prime-time games - The Athletic

John Gruber: "2024 NFL broadcast teams and telecast quality, ranked"

Under The Knife | Will Carroll | Substack

Down the chimney comes Tim Goodman, reuniting with Jason to discuss his super-secret insider TV reviews, streaming's influence in the rise of international TV here in the U.S., and Jason's top TV shows of the year.

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Guest Starring:

Tim Goodman

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Jason mentioned: Shogun (Hulu), Dark Matter (Apple TV+), Bad Monkey (Apple TV+), Hacks (Max), Slow Horses (Apple TV+), Silo (Apple TV+), Shoresy (Hulu), Masters of the Air (Apple TV+), The Diplomat (Netflix), and A Man on the Inside (Netflix).

Tim Mentioned: Black Doves (Netflix), Giri/Haji (Netflix), Moving (Hulu), House of Ninjas (Netflix), A Shop For Killers (Hulu), The Frog (Netflix), Kleo (Netflix), and Black Twitter: A Peoplpe's History (Hulu).

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Tim Goodman / Bastard Machine | Substack

TV Talk Machine - a podcast from The Incomparable

Our Silent Nights are Getting Loud (Apple Music)

Merry Christmas, Baby. (Apple Music)

Our Silent Nights are Getting Loud (Spotify)

Merry Christmas, Baby. (Spotify)

How Disney's strategy has led to ESPN inside the Disney+ app, Disney and Netflix content strategies, Warner Bros. Discovery and Comcast make a deal, the ramifications of Comcast's "SpinCo," crafting a theatrical hit out of a Disney+ TV show, and TV picks!

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Josef Adalian

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Show picks:

• Jason: Somebody Somewhere (HBO)
• Joe: Shrinking (Apple TV+); Sugarplummed (Hallmark Channel– yes, really)

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Disney’s Grand Streaming Vision Is Finally Coming Together

Is ESPN+ Going Away? How the Disney+ App Integration Works

Comcast Gets Max Bundling Rights Under Warner Bros. Discovery Deal

‘Moana 2’ Shatters Box Office Records Around the World | The Walt Disney Company

'Moana 2': Why Disney Decided to Turn a Series Into a Theatrical Movie

Apple's movie mistakes, Comcast pushes cable channels onto the ice floe, Diamond exits bankruptcy, Netflix goes live, the holiday season as a streaming opportunity, and our TV picks!

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Guest Starring:

Natalie Jarvey

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Natalie mentioned: A Man on the Inside (Netflix), No Good Deed (Netflix), Squid Game (Netflix), The Agency (Paramount+), Skeleton Crew (Disney+), Scotland's Home of the Year, and Rivals (Hulu/Disney+).

Jason mentioned "Planes, Trains and Automobiles" (Paramount+).

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Jon Watts On Why He Canceled George Clooney & Brad Pitt 'Wolfs' Sequel

Comcast Announces Intention to Create Leading Independent Media Business Through Spin-Off of Select Cable Television Networks

Comcast Cable Spinoff Employee Reaction: Skepticism but Also Optimism

Diamond Sports cleared to emerge from bankruptcy after new MLB deals | Reuters

MLB plans new national TV packages for 2028; changes to revenue sharing, CBA crucial - The Athletic

Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson Was the Most Streamed Sporting Event in History - Netflix Tudum

Monday Night football on ABC, streaming delays, and more TV picks. (Downstream+ subscribers also get: an Unrivaled new sports TV product; Amazon's deal with the NBA; and pondering the limits of the NFL.)

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Will Carroll

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ESPN’s Delicate Streaming Balance - Puck

Grand Designs Australia - Wikipedia