Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

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Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more. Theme Music: Audio Network

  • 44 minutes 34 seconds
    SHOCKING AUTOPSY Who or What Killed Noah Presgrove "The Best of Body Bags"

    The autopsy of Noah Presgrove is released and for the first time in the history of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan, Joe is going to issue you a warning for what you are about to hear. Noah Presgrove is at a birthday, end of summer, labor day party with friends all weekend. But something happened Sunday night to cause Noah to leave the party by himself. He is found the next morning at 5:53am, alone, dead, on the side of a rural highway. He is naked except for a pair of shoes, but one of the shoes isn't his, it belongs to a guy asleep at the house where the party took place. The "friends" he has known all of his life aren't talking. His brother sees teeth scattered near his brother's body and pieces of chain. Who or What killed Noah Presgrove? Will the autopsy help answer the question?  

     

     

     

    Transcript Highlights

    00:00:08 Introduction: Growing up in rural area

    00:03:10 Talk about List of Injuries

    00:05:17 Discussion of group dynamics

    00:09:12 Discussion of what happens to clothing  

    00:12:27 Talk about social media evidence

    00:16:11 Discussion of internal injuries

    00:20:26 Discussion of injuries cased by falling out of a truck

    00:24:14 Talk about skull fractures 00:28:32 Discussion of brain fluid

    00:32:52 Discussion of broke teeth 00:36:03 Talk about animals and body on road

    00:37:52 Discussion of cervical injuries 00:40:00 Discussion of abrasions

    00:41:47 Talk about being hit by car

    00:43:59 Discussion of data

    00:44:17 Conclusion; After the autopsy we still don’t have answers 

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    30 January 2025, 4:45 pm
  • 35 minutes 57 seconds
    173 days, 100 feet: The Death of Valerie Tindall - "The Best of Body Bags"

    A family moves to the country to get away from the crime of the big city only to find that evil exists in small towns and big cities alike. A 17-year-old girl develops a close bond to a harmless older neighbor, but the harmless old man is really a wolf in sheep's clothing and when the 17-year-old goes missing the neighbor helps look as hard as anyone. As long as nobody comes to his house to look too close. For 173 days the girl is missing, her heartbroken parents don't realize she is only 100 feet away from their front door. Buried in a homemade box, just for her. 
    Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the case of the teen girl hidden away in a homemade coffin and how difficult it will be to get the evidence to determine what really caused her death. Dave Mack joins in on the search for facts, and Valerie Tindall.

     

     

     

    Transcript 
    00:01:02 Discussion of 173 days without knowing location of your child 
    00:02:26 Valerie Tindall, 17, and missing 
    00:03:29 Mother said Patrick Scott acted like jealous boyfriend 
    00:04:21 Discussion of age difference 
    00:06:55 Valerie Tindall is missing 
    00:10:00 Talk about Forensic Anthropology 
    00:11:28 Disturbed areas of soil in backyard  
    00:12:30 17-year-old girl bonds with 59-year-old man, odd 
    00:13:22 What does FBI mean to a case 
    00:14:32 The neighbor Valerie has “bond” with charged with lying to police 
    00:16:03 Discussion of providing false hope to lure out suspect 
    00:17:24 Investigators wonder if someone is helping her stay gone 
    00:18:29 Victim has been missing since June 
    00:22:24 Bright Orange fingernail polish Valerie Tindall was wearing 
    00:23:29 Taking down a structure, burning, why? 
    00:27:17 Talk about the VHS tapes found in box 
    00:29:11 Discussion of murder weapon, a belt 
    00:30:56 Suspect claims he is the victim?  
    00:32:29 Discussion about condition of the body  
    00:33:39 Why did the suspect dig holes in his property? 
    00:35:17 Talk about the story from the suspect does not make sense 
    00:36:35 Some evidence might have been lost  

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    30 January 2025, 2:40 am
  • 44 minutes 32 seconds
    12 Dead Bodies in 22 Months; Does Austin Have A Serial Killer? 'The Best of Body Bags'

    At least 12 bodies have been pulled from "Lady Bird Lake" in Austin, Texas in the last 22 months. Some can be explained as deaths that happen on or near a lake, but not all. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will break down the difference between a regular death in a lake and a possible serial killer, while Dave Mack breaks down the stories behind the victims.    

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Transcript Highlights00:16.18 Introduction about water and murder
    03:37.66 Discussion does Austin have a serial killer?
    08:13.12 Discussion what does "serial killer" do to an area
    13:22.11 Talk about other serial killers, were they really caught
    17:54.47 Talk about witnessing a death on the water
    22:03.17 Discussion of toxicology
    27:53.13 Discussion of victims
    32:38.32 Talk about water as a dumping ground
    36:26.16 Discussion of decomposition in water
    40:04.57 Talk about water flow
    47:42.83 Discussion about rumors over fact
    Conclusion

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    28 January 2025, 5:39 pm
  • 33 minutes 39 seconds
    Murder or Self Defense Shocking New Info - Only Fans Model Covered in Blood "Best of Body Bags"

    OnlyFans and Instagram model, Courtney Tailor, is rich and famous. She is  living in a luxury high-rise in Edgewater, Miami, Florida and has banked over $3 Million dollars in the two years leading up to the death of her boyfriend, Christian Obumseli.
    Her real name is Courtney Clenney and she is charged with second-degree murder with a deadly weapon in the death of Christian Obumseli, 27, in her high-rise Miami-area apartment on April 3, 2022.  Clenney claims she killed Obumseli in self-defense. 
    Joseph Scott Morgan takes an up-close look at recently released information about what happened that fateful night and provides new insight into the death of Christian Obumseli. Was it self-defense or murder?     

    Transcript Highlights

    00:00:00 Introduction of case - why would you throw your only weapon?

    00:02:00 A single stab wound by a thrown knife

    00:06:37 Courtney Clenney and boyfriend fought

    00:10:56 Funny stuff about throwing knives

    00:15:26 911 call, victim says "I'm going to die"

    00:19:43 Clenney claims she through kitchen knife from 10 feet away

    00:24:16 Discussion of laptop, text messages, email

    00:28:26 The Love of Money

    00:30:55 Courtney Clenney, drunk, approaches teen in parents neighborhood

    00:33:23 Conclusion – portent of things to come

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    23 January 2025, 1:00 pm
  • 29 minutes 22 seconds
    Sex, Deception, and Murder: The Chilling Story of Shaye Groves and the Brutal Death of Frankie Fitzgerald - "Best of Body Bags"

    In this episode of "Body Bags," we unravel the harrowing story of Shaye Groves, a woman consumed by her obsession with serial killers and ultimately implicated in the brutal murder of her boyfriend, Frankie Fitzgerald Delving into the chilling fascination that permeated her life and relationships, the hosts uncover the disturbing evidence that led to the gruesome crime. Hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the challenges investigators face when encountering an unfamiliar crime scene and the unsettling environment they discover including a macabre collection of serial killer images and the couple's history of violent, videotaped sex acts. They discuss Shaye Groves' possible premeditation of the murder, her manipulation and blackmail of previous partners through recorded sex acts, and her meticulous execution of the crime, such as using bleach to clean up the scene. 

     

    Shownotes:

    00:20 - Intro to case.

    02:10 - Dave Mack gives background and overview of case.

    04:10 - What impact did having serial killer images in her home have on Shay Groves and her mindset?

    05:25 - The disturbing nature of Shay Groves' obsession and how it relates to the crime and her life.

    07:10 - Shay Groves and Frankie Fitzgerald's romantic relationship and Shaye's controlling nature.

    09:25 - Challenges investigators face when entering an unfamiliar crime scene and disturbing evidence and how their first impressions can impact their investigation.

    11:50 - The couple's history of violent sex acts captured on video and how this escalated.

    14:00 - The use of bleach in morgue cleanups and how the smell of bleach can linger, connecting it to the crime scene.

    15:10 - Possibility of Shea Groves planning the murder and the use of bleach to clean the crime scene.

    19:50 - Shea's obsession with serial killers, dark imagery, and the types of knives used in the murder.

    21:55 - JoScott talks about the differences between single-edged and double-edged knife wounds.

    24:40 - The catastrophic loss of blood that led to Frankie's death and Shaye’s possible motives and methods during the attack.

    26:40 - Determining if any wounds were inflicted post-mortem and whether the crime was a torture event or a dark fantasy acted out by Shaye.

    28:54 - Outro.

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    22 January 2025, 1:00 pm
  • 46 minutes 45 seconds
    Sins of the Father: The Death of Dylan Redwine "The Best of Body Bags"

    Dylan Redwine is forced to spend Thanksgiving with his father in Colorado. He doesn't want to be there because he knows some things about his father, secret, disgusting things, and he just doesn't want to be around him. But due to his parent divorce he has to go. Dylan Redwine goes missing, his dad suggests a bear might have got him. It takes time, but in the end, Forensics will tell the entire story of what happened to Dylan Redwine.Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down a story that took years to finish and includes blood, sex, knives, and bones. 

     

     

     

     

    Time Code Highlights.

    00:01:40 Redwine Murder was one of the first Joseph Scott Morgan covered in media

    00:04:00 Dylan must go to his father’s house in Colorado for Thanksgiving  

    00:05:08 Mark Redwine house burned down previously

    00:07:03 Discussion of children of divorce, Dylan did not want to be with his father

    00:08:20 Talk about pictures Dylan and his brother saw on their dad’s computer

    00:09:30 Joe talks the information he was given to cover story on network show

    00:11:03 Pictures of Mark Redwine in lingerie, makeup, eating out of diaper

    00:13:09 Joe tells story of being embarrassed comparing it to how Mark Redwine was embarrassed his children found out about secret pictures

    00:15:00 Discussion about the boys confronting their father over his pictures

    00:16:50 Talk about Mark Redwine responding to Corey about the pictures

    00:19:25 Joe talks about Mark Redwine being humiliated and angry

    00:20:45 Redwine claims he went to store, Dylan was gone when he got back

    00:21:35 Discussion about Corey Redwine being several years older than Dylan

    00:22:45 Talk about forensics and how nothing is ever hidden

    00:24:04 Joe talks about a dog finding blood in the home

    00:26:05 Blood from Dylan would have to have been from recent visit

    00:30:04 Joe talks about a murder case without a body

    00:31:00 Both femurs of Dylan Redwine found 8 miles from Mark Redwine home

    00:32:43 Bones found on a road could have been drug by an animal

    00:34:14 Determining whether the bones were separated by human using tools

    00:36:05 Talk about Mark Redwine mentioning something to a friend about blunt force trauma and they would need to find his head

    00:37:45 Dylan Redwine skull found

    00:39:00 No animals in the area that would drag remains up the mountain

    00:40:10 Talk about surface deposition

    00:41:05 Mark Redwine said Dylan may have been attacked by a bear.  

    00:43:50 What the skull tells investigators. Took several months to identify

    00:45:12 Joe explains using sinus for identification

    00:46:45 Skull fractures show blunt force trauma. Two linear marks consistent with a knife blade found on skull. 

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    21 January 2025, 1:00 pm
  • 53 minutes 9 seconds
    Teen Missing Two Months, Found Naked, Shot in Back of Head "Best of Body Bags"

    Recorded LIVE at CrimeCon Nashville, 2024:In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan explains how he challenges his class at Jacksonville State University to try and solve a cold case. Two years in a row, two different classes and students chose the unsolved murder of Blake Chappell. Blake Chappell tells his mother he is having the best night of his life with his girlfriend at the East Coweta High School Homecoming Dance.Within a matter of hours, Blake will find himself chased out of his girlfriend’s house in the middle of the night, walking down the road at 5 a.m. texting his girlfriend, and telling her police just stopped and talked to him. One last text to his girlfriend that he is getting cold, and his phone goes quiet.Blake Chappell is 17 and he never makes it back to his friend’s house. He just vanishes into thin air. It is October 16, 2011. Two months later on December 17, 2011, his nearly naked body is found floating in a creek, he has been shot in the back of the head.The case is still unsolved. But new search warrants were served in March 2024, will there be justice for Blake Chappell?   

     

     

    Transcript Highlights

    00:00:13 Introduction Blake Chappel Case

    00:04:40 Discuss of family financial issues

    00:08:28 Blake finds ex-girlfriend who ran away

    00:10:32 Blake beaten up by ex’s stepfather

    00:12:26 Blake put in jail for finding his ex

    00:17:35 Mother takes Blake and date to homecoming dance

    00:20:48 Discussion of Blake activities walking in the night

    00:24:24 Talk about Blake walking miles to see girlfriend

    00:28:08 Talk about Blake texting girlfriend

    00:31:49 Talk about Blake doesn’t make it back to Austin’s house

    00:37:36 Discussion Blake shot in back of head

    00:43:22 Discussion rumors about Blake’s death

    00:48:12 Discussion Blake found wearing underwear, no shoes

    00:52:34 Conclusion Joseph Scott Morgan lets his JSU class pick unsolved crime to solve Two years in a row the case of Blake Chappel is chosen for the project 

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    16 January 2025, 1:00 pm
  • 43 minutes 54 seconds
    Dismemberment and the Desecration of the Dead Body Bags Live at CrimeCon 2023 "The Best of Body Bags"

    Over the last few years, more and more death scenes involve dismemberment.An "obsessed" true crime fan in South Korea thinks she can pull off the perfect murder, so how did Jung Yoo-Jung get caught? Taylor Schabusiness tells police she doesn't remember strangling her boyfriend, but it felt good. She leaves his severed head in a bucket for his mother to find.And in Tennessee, prosecutors say Joel Guy Jr created a "diabolical stew of human remains" with his mother's head when he finds out his parents are cutting him off.Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the forensics and Dave Mack keeps the stories moving in this fast-paced edition of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan in front of a live audience at CrimeCon 2023 in Orlando, Florida

     

     

     

    Time Code Highlights.

    00:02:50 South Korean Woman Jung Yoo-Jung is said to be an obsessed crime fan

    00:03:17 Discussion of how 23-year-old woman pretends to be a 14-year-old school girl

    00:04:19 Jung Yoo-jung wants to commit a homicide and dismember the victim to try and get away with murder..

    00:05:33  Her plan is to kill, dismember, and dispose of the victim. 

    00:06:27 Talks about the tools needed to do the job she wants to do

    00:10:19 What would she used to clean up the area?

    00:12:00 Talk about Gilgo and Rex Heuermann

    00:12:44 Talking about the getaway and getting rid of the remains

    00:12:57 To commit the perfect crime she uses a cab as a getaway car, leads to her capture

    00:14:39 Joseph Scott Morgan tells story of transporting a head as a young man working in New Orleans with the coroner.

    00:15:52  Under no circumstances are you to allow this bot this head out of your sight. 00:16:23 Had to use a cooler with ice to transport the head

    00:18:40 Discussion about Taylor Schabusiness case.

    00:19:14 The mother of the victim finds his head in bucket

    00:20:20 Discussion of the relationship between suspect and victim

    00:21:56 Schabusiness told police she didn't remember strangling him, but she remembered liking it.

    00:23:16 She told police, you found this part of him, good luck finding the rest

    00:25:48  Discussion about the types of knives needed to do what was done to the victim

    00:27:46 Talk about the forensics of different types of blades

    00:30:47 Joe Scott Morgan talks about the time it takes to dismember a body

    00:32:09 Joel Guy Jr, created a game plan for what he was going to do to his parents

    00:32:23 Discussion about Joel Guy Jr and why he killed his parents

    00:34:18 Joel Guy Jr stabbed his parents to death, then cut them up.

    00:35:04 Talk about police interrupted Joel Guy Jr and found his "list" of things to do

    00:39:42 Discussion of the medical examiner at the trial

    00:40:09 Talk about anti-mortem and post-mortem

    00:43:11 Joseph Scott Morgan explains the way a body can be disarticulated

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    15 January 2025, 1:00 pm
  • 39 minutes 45 seconds
    Live From CrimeCon Las Vegas The Death of Ellen Greenberg "The Best of Body Bags "

    Recorded live in front of a studio audience at CrimeCon in Las Vegas, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan re-examines the injuries to Ellen Greenberg. The teacher and soon-to-be-bride, is found death in her apartment with more than 20 stab wounds, and her death is ruled a suicide. 

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    14 January 2025, 1:00 pm
  • 33 minutes 8 seconds
    The Ransom Note and Non-Kidnapping Murder of JonBenet Ramsey

    A final look at items brought up in the recent Netflix documentary about JonBenet Ramsey and her death. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the crime scene with Joe breaking down the mistakes that were made and how they have nothing to do with technology. Also, a question that has never been answered regarding the "ransom" note. What type of "kidnapper" kills the person and leaves a "ransom" note? Who would pay a "ransom" for the "safe return" of a loved one when the "loved one" is already dead and in the house? 

     

     

    Transcribe Highlights
    00:00.41 Introduction

    02:00.28 No excuses for evidence mistakes

    04:54.75 Never Ask Father of missing 6-year-old search the house

    10:06.27 The physical things seen in strangling

    14:34.80 Why leave the body AND ransom note

    19:53.52 Why ask for $118,000?

    24:28.50 The reason for the ransom note is dead

    29:07.64 JonBenet was beaten, skull was fractured

    32:10.35 Conclusion

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    9 January 2025, 1:00 pm
  • 40 minutes 4 seconds
    Burned To Death After 10 Hours Locked In Storage Unit: The Death of Corrine Abosamra

    A fire was reported November 7th, 2024,  at Broadmoor Self-Storage in Kentwood, Michigan.  Firefighters cut the lock off unit 454, and discovered the body of Corinne Abosamra. Morgan Wingeier rented a storage unit at Broadmoor Self-Storage and allowed Corinne Abosamra to live in the unit.  On the day of the fire, Wingeier left Abosamra in the unit and locked it with a pad lock on the outside. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss what is known so far about the death of Abosamra and look closely at the evidence to see if it leads to accident or murder.

     

     

     

     

     

    Transcribe Highlights

    00:00.41 Introduction

    02:00.28 Renting a Storage Unit

    04:54.75 At a fire scene, everything looks the same

    09:06.27 Would someone rent a storage unit to render down a body

    14:34.80 Finding charred remains in the storage unit

    19:53.52 Did Morgan Wingeier forget she locked Abosamra in storage unit

    24:28.50 Victim was in the unit for 10 hours before fire was seen

    29:07.64 Wingeier didn't return to the storage unit

    34:10.35 Heat coming off a fire, no escape

    39:47.36 Conclusion

     

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    8 January 2025, 1:00 pm
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