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Jessie Stephens is pregnant with twins — which feels cosmically aggressive when you remember she is a twin (to Clare Stephens — keep up, people). Especially when you consider that Jessie and Clare were raised by a woman who had two sets of identical twins herself. And yes, Anne Stevens would like the universe to calm down.

On this subscriber episode, Mia Freedman gets Jessie and Clare in the studio to unpack eerie twin intuition (just one example: Clare knew Jessie had two heartbeats going on in her womb before Jessie even told her), and the very real logistics of carrying two babies at once.

We talk:

• Why some people say “How exciting!” at the news of twins while others go instantly grey

• The science vs superstition of twins having twins

• Miscarriage, sibling timing, and the emotional whiplash of joy and fear

• Collapsed ribs, reflux, and the indignity of sleeping upright

Plus, there’s debate about birth-room access, grandparent maths, and whether 'weird twin shit' is now officially hereditary.

It’s intimate. It’s chaotic. It’s extremely twin-coded.

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Anora is the movie that swept the Oscars this year, taking home Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actress, Best Original Screenplay and Best Film Editing.

It’s also one of the wildest movie watching experiences we have ever had, so now it’s time for a brutally honest review on the movie that everyone is talking about. From the unexpected story behind the film’s plot, to the many controversies that surrounded it’s release and some eyebrow raising stories from how it was filmed, the conversation around Anora is just as intriguing as the movie itself.

Plus, we need to talk about the film’s ending, and how it left our entire cinema speechless.

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It's been 20 years since we first met Meredith Grey and the surgical interns at Seattle Grace Hospital, and Grey's Anatomy is still serving up plenty of medical miracles, romantic entanglements, and catastrophic disasters.

Joining us to Brutally Honest Review the Shonda Rhimes hit series is our in-house Grey's expert Grace Rouvray, as we dissect everything from the most underrated moments to the character deaths that broke our hearts. From the iconic friendship between Christina and Meredith that gave us "you're my person," to the questionable storylines that had us rolling our eyes, we're examining what has kept viewers like us coming back for 20 seasons.

Plus, we reveal the dramatic behind-the-scenes controversies, debate which doctor was truly the hottest (are you Team McSteamy or Team McDreamy?), and discuss how the show's treatment of female ambition has aged in the era of the "pick me girl."

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Guest: Grace Rouvay
Executive Producer: Ned Green
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The fourth Bridget Jones movie, Bridget Jones: Mad About the Boy, landed in cinemas a few weeks ago and now we must passionately discuss it.

From hidden costume details, to the story around a celebrity cameo that went viral, and an unpopular opinion about Hugh Grant’s character, there are so many juicy behind the scenes details that we have to reveal to you.

Plus, we need to debrief on the movie moments that brought us to tears, made us laugh…and then made us cry about the state of dating millennial men.

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Hosts: Laura Brodnik & Em Vernem

Executive Producer: Kimberley Braddish 

Audio Producer: Scott Stronach

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. 

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Brace yourself, because in Em's own words - this episode is 90% brutal. We have some very strong words for Belly and the Fisher boys. From the love triangle antics that had us yelling at the screen to the plotlines we couldn’t get enough of (and the ones that… let’s just say, tested our patience), we unpack it all.

Yep, we’re diving headfirst into a brutally honest review of The Summer I Turned Pretty’s final season.

Plus, we spiral over the fact the universe isn’t over - thanks to Jenny Han, there’s a movie on the way, and we’re here for it.

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Our Brutally Honest Review Of The Emmys
A Brutally Honest Review Of Meghan Markle’s New Netflix Series
A Brutally Honest Review Of And Just Like That's Final Season

And if you can't get enough TSITP content - Our new podcast Watch Party is out now, listen to our deep-dive into The Summer I Turned Pretty on Apple or Spotify.

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Call Her Alex has landed on Disney+, offering a glossy, tightly curated look at the rise of podcast juggernaut Alex Cooper, but just how honest is the series really?

In this episode, we dive into how Alex's role in shaping the narrative we get to see as viewers. We also unpack her childhood and explore how she built one of the most influential media brands in the world, along with the unexpected role her husband plays in the empire.

Plus, we get into the moments that felt raw and revealing… and the ones that felt like they were left on the cutting room floor. Let’s just say, there’s a lot going on beneath the surface of Call Her Alex, and we get into it all.

Read the substack we explore about the lack of diversity among Call Her Daddy guests here.

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The moment you've all been waiting for is finally here… our brutally honest review of And Just Like That Season 3 – the very last time we’ll see Carrie, Miranda and Charlotte on our screens.

We break down the character arcs, what really worked (and what didn’t), and unpack that shocking ending. Was this truly how it was supposed to end? Or was the finale cut short because the show was cancelled? The speculation is everywhere, and we have thoughts.

If you’ve been watching from day one, this is the farewell episode you don’t want to miss.

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Hosts: Laura Brodnik, Ksenija Lukich & Tina Burke

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This summer we are curating your Cancelled podcast playlist, bringing you the insanely popular and always funny - Brutally Honest Reviews from our friends on The Spill.

You know we love a rom-com here at The Spill — and one of the biggest shows in the world has returned for Season 2, taking us from swoon-worthy confessions to the brutal reality of what happens after the honeymoon phase.In this season, we find Joanne and Noah navigating the chaos of real love — diving into what happens beyond the meet-cute montage.

We're also unpacking Joanne and Morgan's iconic sister relationship - the tangled dynamic of being best friends, business partners, and podcasters whose dramatic moments rival the romantic story arcs.We unpack everything from the moments that made us melt to the ending that, let’s just say, the internet (and us) had a lot of feelings about.And, we share a few sneaky behind-the-scenes details about how Nobody Wants This came to be, and one very interesting casting process.

So, is Season 2 still the sharp, heartfelt rom-com we fell for — or has the spark officially faded? We give you our brutally honest review.

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This summer we are curating your Cancelled podcast playlist, bringing you the insanely popular and always funny - Brutally Honest Reviews from our friends on The Spill.

Everyone has fallen in love with Nobody Wants This on Netflix and now we’re here to deliver our brutally honest review.

From the behind the scenes stories that will change how you see the show, to a storyline we’ve never seen play out on TV before and the biggest moment that no one is talking about, there’s so much we need to discuss.

Plus, we haven’t forgotten about Weekend Watch! Today we have a truly unique true crime series to recommend to you along with the return of a cult favourite TV show.

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Today’s episode is a crash course in 90s pop culture Em never saw coming. After confessing a major entertainment knowledge gap when it comes to The Spice Girls, Laura decided it was time for an education.

From the origins of the world’s biggest girl group to the scandals, the hits, and the drama that dominated headlines while Em was still learning to walk and talk - this is the brutally honest Spice Girls history lesson we all need to brush up on. Get ready for nostalgia, girl power, and a deep dive into the 90s lore everyone should be across.

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Whether you snagged a ticket to see Taylor Swift: The Official Release Party of a Showgirl in cinemas last weekend, or missed out and need the rundown — we’ve got you covered.

Strap in for our brutally honest review of Taylor’s latest cinematic spectacle. From the hidden meanings behind her new songs to the making of the music video we can’t stop jamming out to, we’re breaking down every glittering detail (and a few things you might’ve missed). 

Joining us for the ride is Mamamia’s Pop Culture & Social Editor — and, honestly, the biggest Swiftie we’ve ever known — to help decode the Easter eggs, unpack this new era, and explain what this film tells us about Taylor’s ever-evolving showgirl persona.

Whether you’ve already seen it and want to unpack it all, or you haven’t and just want to know what all the hype’s about, this episode is your all-access pass to the Showgirl era.

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Every Hidden Detail, Scandal, And Love Story From Taylor Swift's New Album
MORNING TEA: Taylor's Showgirl Era Takes Over

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