Frank talks with Dr. Craig Yorke, author of Steep: A Black Neurosurgeon’s Journey, about growing up in Boston, the fierce expectations of his parents, Harvard and medical school, race and colorism, his years as a neurosurgeon, and the family and community that eventually gave his life another measure of success.

Craig describes his memoir as an attempt to understand whether the past incarcerates us or whether we can learn to see it with greater perspective. Their conversation is about achievement, but also about its price, the armor we inherit, and what it means to gradually put some of that armor down.
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Steep: A Black Neurosurgeon's Journey

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Frank talks with sociologists Michael O. Emerson and Glenn Bracey II about their book The Religion of Whiteness: How Racism Distorts Christian Faith.

Their research asks why racial division remains so persistent within American Christianity. Their conclusion is unsettling: for many white practicing Christians, whiteness has taken on religious qualities of its own.

They discuss Christians of color and experiences of betrayal in multiracial churches, racial inequality, the legacy of American slavery, Christian nationalism, MAGA, opportunity hoarding, and the difference between Christianity being racialized and race itself becoming religionized.

The conversation ends with a harder question: Can this actually be changed?

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LINKS

https://www.villanova.edu/university/experts/expert-detail.html?expert=glenn.bracey

https://www.bakerinstitute.org/expert/michael-o-emerson
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Frank Schaeffer talks with David Dault about his book The Accessorized Bible and the difference between treating the Bible as an object and living Scripture as a practice of responsibility and love.

The conversation explores faith, conversion, institutional corruption, moral seriousness, Pope Francis, Cornel West, and what Christianity looks like when vulnerable people become the center of the story.

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The Accessorized Bible
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Frank Schaeffer welcomes David Blumenthal and James Morone to discuss their book Whiplash: From the Battle for Obamacare to the War on Science.

The conversation explores the Affordable Care Act, Operation Warp Speed, the COVID pandemic, political polarization, misinformation, and the role of presidential leadership during national crises.

Together they examine why America’s health care debates have become arguments about identity, community, science, and democracy itself.

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LINK

Whiplash: From the Battle for Obamacare to the War on Science

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/person/david-blumenthal

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/person/james-morone

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Attorney Boz Tchividjian joins Frank Schaeffer for an honest conversation about abuse inside churches, institutional cover-ups, Christian nationalism, and the work of helping survivors seek justice.

As Billy Graham’s grandson, Boz understands evangelical culture from the inside. As a lawyer, he has spent years holding institutions accountable when they fail the people they were meant to protect.

Together they discuss celebrity pastors, patriarchal theology, clergy abuse, politics, and why accountability remains essential for any community that claims to value truth.

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Professor Matthew Boedy joins Frank Schaeffer to discuss The Seven Mountains Mandate: Exposing the Dangerous Plan to Christianize America and Destroy Democracy.

Drawing on both scholarship and personal experience, Boedy traces the evolution of Christian nationalism from the Religious Right to today’s political movement. Frank reflects on his own family’s place in that history and considers how earlier evangelical ideas evolved into something very different.

Together they discuss the Seven Mountains Mandate, Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA, Project 2025, education, media, masculinity, and the relationship between religion, politics, and power.
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LINKS

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https://www.wjkbooks.com/productauthor/matthew-boedy/

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Frank Schaeffer speaks with Maya Kornberg about her book Stuck: How Money, Media, and Violence Prevent Change in Congress.

They discuss how Congress has been weakened by money, social media, political violence, understaffing, and decades of institutional neglect. This is a conversation about why Congress often fails, and why strengthening it may be one of the most urgent democratic tasks we face.
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https://www.mayakornberg.com/

https://bookshop.org/a/99692/9781421454580
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Frank Schaeffer talks with author and journalist Helen Benedict about her novel The Soldier’s House, the Iraq War, military trauma, refugees, and the hidden costs of American foreign policy.

Helen shares how years of interviewing veterans and survivors shaped both her journalism and her fiction. Together they discuss women serving in combat zones, sexual violence inside the military, PTSD, immigration, and the long emotional shadow cast by war.

This is a thoughtful and deeply human conversation about responsibility, memory, and survival.
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The Soldier's House on Bookshop
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Frank talks with psychologist Paul Eastwick about the science of attraction, attachment, marriage, and long-term companionship.

Drawing from his book Bonded by Evolution: The New Science of Love and Connection, Paul challenges the idea that relationships are mostly about status, dominance, or “mate value.” Instead, he argues that humans evolved for bonding, caregiving, emotional support, and mutual dependence.

The conversation also explores online dating culture, the manosphere, sexuality, compatibility, and why people often misunderstand what makes relationships work.
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https://www.lovefactuallypod.com

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Frank Schaeffer talks with political strategist and author Atima Omara about her new book The Instigators and the deeper failures shaping American politics today.

They discuss race, religion, Trumpism, Project 2025, Kamala Harris, media ecosystems, the Democratic Party’s blind spots, and the historic role Black women have played in defending democracy while rarely receiving full recognition or power.

Atima also reflects on growing up in Virginia as the daughter of Ugandan immigrants and what years inside political organizing taught her about how change actually happens.
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https://atima-omara.com

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Frank Schaeffer talks with sociologist Michael O. Emerson about the updated edition of Divided by Faith: Evangelical Religion and the Problem of Race in America.

They discuss why racial division inside white evangelical culture has intensified over the last 25 years, how Christian nationalism reshaped American politics, and why churches often failed to confront segregation while other institutions succeeded.

Frank also shares personal reflections on growing up in Francis Schaeffer’s community in Switzerland and living in apartheid South Africa.

A grounded conversation about race, religion, power, memory, and the America we built.

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https://www.bakerinstitute.org/expert/michael-o-emerson

https://christiansmith.nd.edu

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Divided by Faith: Evangelical Religion and the Problem of Race in America, Second Edition on Bookshop
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