• 52 minutes 49 seconds
    Michael Saylor: Answering the Critics on mNAV, Bitcoin Per Share, and the Path to $1 Million

    Natalie Brunell sits down with Strategy's Michael Saylor at BTC Prague, just after he took heat for selling 32 Bitcoin — and for recent comments defending how he measures the company's growth and what its stock is really worth.

    Saylor answers the critics and short sellers head-on, explaining why "never sell your Bitcoin" is advice for everyday holders, no longer a rule for a company built to buy Bitcoin and pay out Bitcoin-backed dividends. We discuss:

    • Why "never sell your Bitcoin" is advice for individual retail investors
    • How the company is built to survive a crash
    • Why he argues Bitcoin needs credit to keep winning
    • The four ideologies of Bitcoin
    • When he expects capital to rotate back from AI into Bitcoin

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    • Check out my favorite lightning wallet and trivia app Speed Wallet. If you're a business, let Speed help you accept BTC like they did for Steak 'n Shake! Visit http://speed.app/natalie/ and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats
    • Block's Bitkey Cold Storage Wallet was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 10% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world/STORIES
    • Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
    • With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

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    16 June 2026, 7:05 am
  • 10 minutes 10 seconds
    News Block: SpaceX Makes History, Saylor Fires Back at Critics, and the Debate Dividing Bitcoiners

    In this week's episode of the Coin Stories News Block powered exclusively by Ledn, we cover these major headlines related to Bitcoin, macroeconomics, and global finance:

    • SpaceX goes public in the largest IPO in history with more than 18,000 Bitcoin on the balance sheet
    • The outrage over Elon Musk becoming a trillionaire (and the $40 trillion in debt the same people aren't mad about)
    • Why the AI boom is sucking capital out of Bitcoin — and what happens when it overshoots
    • The debate tearing the Bitcoin community apart
    • Saylor explains the 32 Bitcoin sale and says capital rotates back from AI to Bitcoin by year-end

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    14 June 2026, 9:29 pm
  • 57 minutes 26 seconds
    Amy Oldenburg: Morgan Stanley Insider on Why Bitcoin's Stuck, How Much to Own, and What's Next

    Morgan Stanley manages trillions — and it's now putting Bitcoin in front of clients.

    Amy Oldenburg runs the firm's digital asset strategy, and she joins Natalie Brunell to break down what Wall Street actually sees in Bitcoin, why the price has been stuck, and what could finally move it. She also explains how much Bitcoin Morgan Stanley tells clients to own, why most financial advisors still aren't on board, and her honest take on where the price goes over the next 5 years.

    Topics:

    • Why a 26-year Wall Street veteran embraced Bitcoin
    • How much Bitcoin Morgan Stanley recommends owning
    • Why Bitcoin is stuck even as the banks pile in
    • What could spark the next big move
    • Her real 5-year and 10-year Bitcoin outlook
    • Why "all crypto is the same" is a costly mistake

    Amy Oldenburg is Head of Digital Asset Strategy at Morgan Stanley. Connect with her on LinkedIn.

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    • Check out my favorite lightning wallet and trivia app Speed Wallet. If you're a business, let Speed help you accept BTC like they did for Steak 'n Shake! Visit http://speed.app/natalie/ and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats
    • Block's Bitkey Cold Storage Wallet was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 10% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world
    • Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
    • With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

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    10 June 2026, 12:00 pm
  • 7 minutes 21 seconds
    News Block: Bitcoin Slides Below $60,000, Strategy Sells BTC for the First Time, Saylor Publishes Bitcoin's Ideological Roadmap

    In this week's episode of The News Block, we cover these major headlines related to Bitcoin, macroeconomics, and global finance:

    • Bitcoin crashes below $60,000 as $3 billion flows out of ETFs in 10 days
    • AI mega-IPOs from SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI are draining liquidity from Bitcoin
    • Strategy sells Bitcoin for the first time since 2022 — here's why it's not what you think
    • Michael Saylor publishes his most important essay yet on Bitcoin's future
    • The Fed meets under new Chair Kevin Warsh as inflation runs hot at 3.8%

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    8 June 2026, 12:40 am
  • 54 minutes 56 seconds
    Luke Gromen: Why Tech Stocks are Outperforming Bitcoin - But This Macro Shift Will End It

    Don't let the stock market highs fool you. Macro analyst Luke Gromen, founder of FFTT, returns to deliver a brutal reality check on what is actually happening to your money. While mainstream media celebrates green days, a hidden liquidity crisis is building behind the scenes.

    In this episode, Gromen exposes the massive distortion in today's markets—the seven tech stocks holding up the entire economy and why Bitcoin has fallen so far behind as stocks hit ATHs. If you want to protect your portfolio from the ultimate "sudden stop," this is the realist roadmap you cannot afford to miss.

    We discuss:

    • The AI Liquidity Trap: Why soaring tech stocks are secretly starving Bitcoin of cash.
    • The S&P 500 Illusion: How just seven AI stocks are masking a massive market flatline.
    • The Bitcoin Bottom: Why technical indicators point to a potential correction down to $40K.
    • The Tech Bubble Trap: Why the government is mathematically forced to keep the AI bubble alive.

    Follow Luke Gromen https://x.com/LukeGromen

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    Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

    • Check out my favorite lightning wallet and trivia app Speed Wallet. If you're a business, let Speed help you accept BTC like they did for Steak 'n Shake! Visit http://speed.app/natalie/ and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats
    • Block's Bitkey Cold Storage Wallet was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 10% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world
    • Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
    • With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

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    5 June 2026, 1:32 pm
  • 1 hour 7 minutes
    Ben Hunnewell: We're the First Company to Hold STRC. What Bitcoin Skeptics Should Know

    Prevalon Energy CFO Ben Hunnewell joins Natalie Brunell to explain why his company became the first to hold STRC, the Bitcoin-backed digital credit instrument from Strategy, and why Bitcoin skeptics have it all wrong.

    Topics include

    • Why STRC changed everything, and why a cautious CFO finally said yes
    • Whether Strive's daily dividends could challenge Strategy's dominance
    • The truth behind data center power consumption and the "23 Hiroshima bombs" claim
    • How Bitcoin miners turn flare gas and stranded energy into grid stability
    • Why you can't print energy, data centers, or the things that actually matter

    Follow Ben Hunnewell https://x.com/MSTR_Prophet

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    Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

    • Check out my favorite lightning wallet and trivia app Speed Wallet. If you're a business, let Speed help you accept BTC like they did for Steak 'n Shake! Visit http://speed.app/natalie/ and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats
    • Block's Bitkey Cold Storage Wallet was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 20% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world
    • Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
    • With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

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    2 June 2026, 1:44 pm
  • 8 minutes 18 seconds
    News Block: JPMorgan's Dimon Rips Coinbase CEO, U.S. Seizes $1B in Iranian Crypto, Who's Buying and Who's Selling

    In this week's episode of the Coin Stories News Block powered exclusively by Ledn, we cover these major headlines related to Bitcoin, macroeconomics, and global finance:

    • Jamie Dimon lashes out at Coinbase CEO and vows to fight the CLARITY Act
    • U.S. seizes $1 billion in Iranian crypto — but it wasn't Bitcoin
    • Sequans abandons its Bitcoin treasury while Strive buys another $85 million
    • Strive's SATA hits record trading volume ahead of first-ever daily dividend launch

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    1 June 2026, 12:48 am
  • 56 minutes 41 seconds
    Jeff Walton: The First Daily Bitcoin Dividend in History
    Strive ($ASST) just launched the first daily Bitcoin dividend in stock market history — paying a 13% yield through $SATA. Chief Risk Officer Jeff Walton breaks down how Strive (now the 8th largest Bitcoin treasury company) is competing with Michael Saylor's Strategy, why he bet his entire savings on MSTR, and how digital credit is reshaping fixed income forever. We discuss: • How Strive beat Strategy to the first-ever daily Bitcoin dividend • Where the 13% yield actually comes from (and why it's not a Ponzi) • The insurance industry analogy that explains Bitcoin treasury risk • Jeff's personal story: from the 2008 crash to his 2,000% MSTR options trade • Why traditional junk bonds and private credit are becoming obsolete Follow Jeff Walton https://x.com/PunterJeff

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    Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

    • Check out my favorite lightning wallet and trivia app Speed Wallet. If you're a business, let Speed help you accept BTC like they did for Steak 'n Shake! Visit http://speed.app/natalie/ and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats
    • Block's Bitkey Cold Storage Wallet was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 20% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world
    • Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
    • With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

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    26 May 2026, 12:58 pm
  • 8 minutes 35 seconds
    News Block: SpaceX's Hidden $1.4B Bitcoin Stash Revealed, Moody's Downgrades America, Mark Cuban Dumps His BTC

    In this week's episode of the Coin Stories News Block powered exclusively by Ledn, we cover these major headlines related to Bitcoin, macroeconomics, and global finance:

    • SpaceX just revealed it holds more Bitcoin than Tesla — and didn't sell a single coin through a 50% crash
    • Mark Cuban sold his Bitcoin and called it a "failed hedge"
    • Moody's just stripped the U.S. of its last perfect credit rating — what it means for Bitcoin
    • Strive hit record trading volume on $SATA and bought another 382 BTC — Saylor took notice
    • Trump Media quietly moved $205M in Bitcoin to Crypto.com — is the treasury unraveling?

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    25 May 2026, 5:52 pm
  • 1 hour 16 minutes
    Michael Saylor & Phong Le Answer Retail Investors' Biggest Questions

    What's next for Strategy, STRC, and the Bitcoin industry?

    In this special live Retail Investor Q&A, Natalie Brunell sits down with Michael Saylor and Phong Le to answer the biggest questions from retail investors.

    From dividend changes and mNAV targets to DeFi risk, Bitcoin at $10 million, and whether Strategy plans to sell BTC soon, this conversation covers the issues investors are watching most closely.

    Topics include:

    • STRC's proposed move from monthly to semi-monthly dividends
    • Strategy's plan to restore mNAV to 3–4x
    • Risks around DeFi products built on top of STRC
    • What Strategy looks like in a Bitcoin-at-$10-million world
    • Whether Strategy is gearing up to sell Bitcoin

    For more information on Strategy's products, visit www.strategy.com/notes

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    • Check out my favorite lightning wallet and trivia app Speed Wallet. If you're a business, let Speed help you accept BTC like they did for Steak 'n Shake! Visit http://speed.app/natalie/ and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats
    • Block's Bitkey Cold Storage Wallet was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 20% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world
    • Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
    • With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

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    • Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
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    21 May 2026, 5:18 am
  • 56 minutes 24 seconds
    Craig Tindale: The AI Crash Nobody is Predicting & When Bitcoin's "Rainy Day" Will Arrive

    Macro analyst Craig Tindale joins Natalie Brunell to break down the "hard bifurcation" — the widening gap between our financial system and the physical world it depends on. From Elon Musk's warning of an imminent electricity shortage to the trillion-dollar AI buildout hitting a wall of copper, transformers, and power, this is a sharp look at why you can't print real-world commodities.

    We discuss:

    • The paper ledger vs. the material ledger — and why it matters
    • Why US defense relies on foreign supply chains
    • How China quietly took balance sheet control of Western miners
    • The energy and copper crunch slowing the AI boom

    Follow Craig: https://x.com/ctindale | https://ctindale.substack.com/

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    Earn passive Bitcoin income with industry-leading uptime, renewable energy, ideal climate, expert support, and one month of free hosting when you join Abundant Mines at https://www.abundantmines.com/natalie

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    Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners:

    • Check out my favorite lightning wallet and trivia app Speed Wallet. If you're a business, let Speed help you accept BTC like they did for Steak 'n Shake! Visit http://speed.app/natalie/ and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats
    • Block's Bitkey Cold Storage Wallet was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 20% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world
    • Master your Bitcoin self-custody with 1-on-1 help and gain peace of mind with the help of The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie
    • With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie

    Natalie's Upcoming Events:

    Extra Services to Consider:

    • Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie
    • Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie

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    VALUE FOR VALUE — SUPPORT NATALIE'S SHOWS

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    19 May 2026, 12:21 pm
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