13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

Ana Szabo, Nick Adams, Amy Nichols and Lacey Gee

“13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast” is a deep dive into everything Taylor Swift. Who is that song about? How does she connect so many songs together? Which scandal was she singing about there? From “Tim McGraw” to “It’s Time to Go,” follow along as four...

  • 28 minutes 44 seconds
    Taylor Swift’s Songwriting Hall of Fame: Our Five-Song Draft Picks

    Taylor Swift is officially nominated for the Songwriters Hall of Fame, and our own panel of Swifties are celebrating the only way we know how — by turning it into a competitive draft. But there’s a catch... We cannot pick any of the five songs Taylor submitted herself.

    In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey each take turns drafting their personal five-song lineup that they believe best represents Taylor’s songwriting mastery — from lyrical gut-punches to iconic storytelling to pop perfection. And once someone chooses a song, it’s off the table forever. Yes… feelings are hurt. Strategies crumble, and the TTPD gloves come off!

    Hear our passionate defenses, surprising picks, heated moments over a fan fav snack size song, and even a little friendly chaos over drafting order. We cover everything from classics like Our Song and You Belong With Me to deep-cut heartbreakers, folklore masterpieces, and songs that showcase her evolution from teenage prodigy to generational songwriter.

    We also ask: Which songs should represent Taylor’s entire 20-year career? Which of her lyrics hit hardest for Songwriters Hall of Fame voters? And why didn’t any of us pick something from a particular album… yet?

    Stick around to hear everyone’s final five-song sets — and tell us yours!

    Subscribe, share your picks with us, and let’s manifest Taylor becoming the youngest inductee ever.

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    9 December 2025, 11:00 am
  • 27 minutes 6 seconds
    SwifTEA: Will Ana See Taylor Swift At Arrowhead?

    Tune in this Sunday for the Chiefs game to see Taylor Swift.... AND ANA!!! In a crazy, spontaneous, marvelous situation, Ana has found an opportunity to go to Arrowhead Stadium and join Chiefs Kingdom with a fellow Swiftie! Hear all about how it's happened, what her plans are, and help her come up with a sign or prepare on the possibility of seeing Taylor! 
    PLUS, our very own producer, Juliana, is in town and joins the podcast to give us some updates about her life, her fangirl career, and more!! 

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    5 December 2025, 5:58 pm
  • 33 minutes 24 seconds
    evermore: Final Rankings + Our Emotional Goodbye to an Underrated Era

    We finally did it — after months of deep dives, Easter eggs, lyric dissections, and emotional spirals, the 13 crew is closing out evermore with our official Top 5 Final Rankings. And yes… there are surprising changes and even some debuts on our lists!

    In this episode, Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey each reveal the five songs that stood the test of time — and the ones that got bumped, resurrected, or dragged back onto the list after our full album breakdown. Some of us stayed loyal. Some of us shocked the room. And some of us issued formal apologies to songs we’ve overlooked for way too long.

    We talk:

    • The songs that hit harder after months of analysis

    • The surprising tracks that became brand-new favorites

    • Why some rankings changed and others stayed rock solid

    • How breaking down the album made us love it in a deeper way

    • Our honest final thoughts on Evermore as a full body of work

    Plus, we play your incredible voicemails and kick off the energy for what’s coming next: Taylor Swift’s The Life of a Showgirl era.

    If you're someone who believes Evermore deserved more than it got, you'll feel right at home in this episode.

    Subscribe so you don’t miss our full deep-dive breakdown of The Life of a Showgirl — the era Taylor says captures the heart of the Eras Tour.

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    2 December 2025, 11:00 am
  • 31 minutes 3 seconds
    "it's time to go"

    On this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we’re diving deep into “It’s Time to Go,” the final track on Taylor Swift’s Evermore deluxe edition — a song packed with emotional clarity, quiet courage, and some of Taylor’s sharpest storytelling to date. Whether you’re searching for Evermore analysisTaylor Swift song meanings, or lyric breakdowns, this episode uncovers the moments that tell you it’s time to walk away… and why that act of leaving can be the bravest move you ever make.

    The 13 Podcast unpack the raw themes of betrayal, intuition, self-worth, and emotional awakening, exploring how this track ties together the Evermore universe — from shattered friendships to industry betrayal to the quiet voice inside that whispers, you know when it’s time to go.

    We get into:

    • The deeper meaning behind key lyrics and the “old familiar body ache” that signals personal awakening

    • The rumored connection to Taylor’s fallout with Karlie Kloss

    • The emotional parallels to Better Man, Right Where You Left Me, and Tolerate It

    • Taylor’s powerful references to Big Machine, her masters, and reclaiming ownership of her art

    • Why this song hits different when you’re standing at a crossroads in your own life

    • How this track serves as the perfect thematic finale for folklore + evermore

    • Personal stories about real-life “time to go” moments — and how this song becomes the validation you didn’t know you needed

    Plus: We talk about Swifties using Taylor’s music to recognize their own turning points, share listener insights, and prepare for our Evermore rankings episode coming up next.

    If you love Evermore, emotional deep dives, hidden meanings, lyric symbolism, and conversations that go beyond the surface — this is one you don’t want to miss.

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    25 November 2025, 11:00 am
  • 46 minutes 14 seconds
    "right where you left me"


    In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, we dive deep into one of Taylor’s most beloved bonus tracks: “right where you left me” — Track 16 from the Evermore (Deluxe Edition). Swifties have crowned this song a top-tier masterpiece, and today we’re breaking down every lyric, every Easter egg, and every emotional gut-punch that makes it unforgettable.

    We revisit Taylor’s iconic Eras Tour performance of the song — including that perfectly relatable moment when even Taylor Swift herself stumbles over the lyrics she admits are “one of the wordiest songs” in her catalog. 

    We fangirl over the brand-new Eras Tour docuseries trailer and what it reveals about Taylor’s creative process, color-coded chaos, surprise song strategy, and the behind-the-scenes moments we’ve been dying to see.

    From lyric dissection to real-life parallels, we explore:

    • The heartbreaking imagery behind “Help, I’m still at the restaurant” and being emotionally frozen in time

    • Connections between Evermore, The Life of a Showgirl, and Taylor’s evolving narrative

    • Taylor’s fears, superstitions, and creative reinventions

    • Why this track resonates so deeply with grief, growth, and the fear of being left behind

    • The parallels to “Opalite” — and how Taylor finally leaves the table

    And then — one of the most unforgettable moments from the 13 Podcast voicemail..We receive a stunning, heartfelt voicemail from Antarctica. Yes, literally the bottom of the world. A Swiftie shares how our episode countdowns, Instagram posts, and podcast have become a lifeline in isolation and inspired “Taylor Tuesdays” at the southernmost edge of the planet. It’s goosebumps. It’s full-body chills. It’s why we do this.

    Whether you're here for lyric lore, Taylor’s universe-level storytelling, emotional wreckage, or just to laugh at our collective inability to spell “restaurant,” this episode has everything Swifties crave.

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    18 November 2025, 11:00 am
  • 31 minutes 28 seconds
    "evermore"

    In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Ana, Amy and Nick break down “evermore” — the beautiful closing track of Taylor Swift’s evermore album featuring Bon Iver and co-written with William Bowery (Joe Alwyn). We dive into Taylor’s emotional storytelling, the symbolism behind lyrics like “gray November” and “this pain would be forevermore,” and how the song captures the shared heaviness of 2020.

    The hosts unpack Taylor’s reflections on the 2016 fallout, her isolation during the pandemic, and how the song’s closing warmth — “floors of a cabin creaking under my step” — reminds us that healing and hope always return.

    They also discuss the poetic bridge with Bon Iver, the emotional shift from despair to peace, and the theory behind the “alternate endings” Taylor teased with right where you left me and it’s time to go.

     Join the 13 Podcast for this heartfelt episode as they close the book on evermore and prepare for Taylor’s alternate endings of this story with the evermore deluxe tracks.. Those breakdowns are coming up next!

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    11 November 2025, 11:00 am
  • 25 minutes 55 seconds
    Swifties in the City: A Night to Remember


    The 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast team recaps their biggest event yet — Swifties in the City at the Omni Dallas Hotel! Ana, Amy and Nick relive the magic of hosting 900 Swifties for an unforgettable night filled with music, sparkle, and pure Taylor joy. From meeting fans who traveled near and far to celebrating the Swiftie community that made this possible, this episode is a heartfelt thank-you to everyone who helped bring the event to life.

    Hear behind-the-scenes stories, touching fan moments, and a few exclusive details about what’s next for future 13 Podcast events. 

    Special Thanks To:

    • Omni Dallas Hotel – for hosting us and our Swifties in the heart of downtown Dallas

    • Longhorn Helicopters – for the beautiful helicopter ride when the city lit up orange for The Life of a Showgirl


    • Charity Eden from "Lover: The Unofficial Eras Tour" 
    • DJ Inzo  – for keeping the Swiftie energy alive all night long

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    • Our amazing Swiftie Marketplace vendors: Zozo and Co • Her Roots Inspiration Co. • Wildest Dreams Hair • Tina Soria Creations • Hey Hannah Creations • Nicky Smith Designs • Cryptic Kitty Designs • Nelly Rose Jewelry • Sunny Lux • The Archer’s Works • Crew Designs • Hallows Eve Oddity Jewelry & Apothecary  • Sassy Faces

    • Giveaway donors: Flaunt Cases • Jacob Rivera Sanchez ,  Livie Jean Art and "The Breakup Tour" by Emily Wibberley &  Austin Siegemund-Broka

    • Listener supporters and donors: Ashlee Harper Johnson, Kalea Bennett, Katherine Earle, Fernanda Volpon Robles, Sarah Dubec, Jacon Rivera-Sanchez, Amber Flores-Grijalva, Kaycee Clark, Michael O'Connell, Jessica Shook, Ashley Hatton, Joshua Bell, Daisy Patton, Leo's Bark Kim, Jennifer Ontiveroz — and every single Swiftie who donated or showed up!


    Listen now to celebrate friendship, music, and the incredible Swiftie community that makes every moment special. 

    And THANK YOU for making the night so successful and unforgettable!

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    6 November 2025, 2:00 pm
  • 30 minutes 3 seconds
    "closure"


    It’s the end of Evermore era (almost!) — and what better way to celebrate it than with the breakdown of closure. In this episode, Nick, Ana, and Amy dive deep into the meaning of "closure" from Evermore, exploring its chaotic intro, sharp lyricism, and what the song reveals about saying goodbye — even when you don’t need to. From theories about who the song might be directed toward (Scott Borchetta? Scooter Braun? A former friend?) to how Taylor transforms sarcasm into strength, this breakdown covers it all.

    Plus, hear theories on why Closure isn’t actually the final song on Evermore — and what that says about Taylor’s storytelling.

    Join us next time for the unofficial end to evermore… before we get into the deluxe tracks.

    And up next… It’s time to delve into The Life of a Showgirl!

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    4 November 2025, 2:00 pm
  • 49 minutes 37 seconds
    marjorie

    In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Ana, Lacey, and Nick return to the studio after their successful Swifties in the City event to break down one of Taylor Swift’s most emotional songs — Marjorie from Evermore.


    They dive into the meaning behind Taylor’s tribute to her grandmother, opera singer Marjorie Finlay, and explore how this deeply personal track connects to themes of legacy, loss, and love. They unpack Taylor’s lyrics line by line, discuss the symbolism of the color yellow, and revisit Taylor’s emotional performance of Marjorie on The Eras Tour — complete with real vocals from her grandmother woven into the music.


    You’ll also hear reflections on grief, memory, and the way Taylor’s songwriting captures timeless lessons like “never be so kind you forget to be clever.” Plus, the hosts tease what’s next for their song breakdown series and share fan-favorite theories linking Marjorie to The Life of a Showgirl.


    Whether you’re a lifelong Swiftie or just discovering the hidden stories behind Taylor’s songs, this episode will leave you feeling connected, emotional, and full of love for the woman who inspired it all. 


     Listen now and join the conversation on social media @the13podcast or at www.the13podcast.net


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    28 October 2025, 1:00 pm
  • 27 minutes 58 seconds
    long story short


    Taylor Swift’s “Long Story Short” may sound upbeat, but beneath the melody lies one of her most personal reflections on survival, growth, and finding peace after public chaos. In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Ana, Nick and Amy break down every lyric of track 12 from Evermore, unpacking the moments that defined Taylor’s resilience — from media battles and heartbreak to the calm that followed.

    The squad dives deep into:

    • Why “Long Story Short” feels different from the rest of Evermore

    • How it serves as Taylor’s self-narrated redemption story

    • Hidden meanings behind iconic lines like “your nemesis will defeat themselves before you get the chance to swing”

    • The parallels between her public fall, private healing, and the ultimate message of survival

    Stay tuned through the laughter, lyrical analysis, and fan voicemails that capture the heart of the Swiftie community — because, long story short… we all survived the eras and came out stronger.

     Stream this week’s episode wherever you listen to podcasts, and join us for more breakdowns, Easter eggs, and Swiftie moments at the13podcast.net.

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    21 October 2025, 1:00 pm
  • 39 minutes 14 seconds
    "cowboy like me"

    In this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey break down track 11, “cowboy like me” from evermore. From lyrical storytelling to hidden metaphors, the team unpacks why this fan-favorite has become one of Taylor’s most poetic and underrated masterpieces.

    The hosts explore everything from the mysterious “tent-like thing” lyric to the connection between love, deception, and independence in Taylor’s songwriting. Is cowboy like me a love story, a con, or both? Tune in to hear the Swiftie theories, laughter, and chaos that make every 13 episode feel like a night with your favorite Swiftie friends.

    Plus — the countdown is on for Swifties in the City, happening Friday, October 17 from 6–9 p.m. at the Omni Dallas Hotel on the Pegasus Lawn! Celebrate The Life of a Showgirl with music, giveaways, a Swiftie Market, DJ set, and live entertainment — all for just $13. Grab your tickets at⁠ www.the13podcast.net⁠ before they’re gone!   


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    14 October 2025, 1:00 pm
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