You only get 13 songs to create your perfect Taylor Swift album. Sounds easy until you actually have to do it.

This time, Amy and Lacey are taking on the challenge.. and apparently we had very different interpretations of the assignment.

Amy created an entire emotional journey complete with acts, heartbreak, spiraling and healing. A true Female Rage: The Musical! 

Lacey heard “13 songs” and decided house rules applied, because why choose one Taylor song when you can make an Eras Tour Suprise Songs kind of mashup?!

We’re sharing the songs we can never skip, defending some potentially controversial choices and realizing our perfect albums might reveal a little too much about us.

Plus, listeners sent in their own versions, including one concept album that may have accidentally given us enough episode ideas to keep this podcast going forever.

What 13 songs make your perfect Taylor Swift album?

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Our Showgirl era is coming to an end, which means there’s only one thing left to do… rank it!

After nearly a year breaking down every song, every lyric and hopefully alllll the tiny details on The Life of a Showgirl, we’re revealing our final top five songs from the album and comparing them to where we started.

Did any songs climb the rankings? Which favorites never moved? And which songs physically hurt us to leave out?

We’re also talking about Taylor seemingly exiting her Showgirl era, what we think could be coming next, the songs we still need to break down and a theory involving Taylor’s hair because of course we are.

Plus, the lobsters call in with ideas for what we should do next, including one request we might finally have to make happen.

Our rankings could absolutely change tomorrow, but for today… these are the final answers.

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Taylor Swift has been out and about lately.. And that has us questioning EVERYTHING! The florals. The haircut. THAT exit sign again. The campaigning.. At some point, are we allowed to admit that our Swiftie senses are tingling?

We're breaking down the latest theories about TS13, Debut Taylor's Version, a possible October surprise and one theory that brings back up something we all seem to have forgotten about… all of those exit signs!

Plus, Taylor has been quietly working behind the scenes with some very important people ahead of Emmy and Grammy season, Travis casually called her his wife and nearly broke us, and we're discussing the very smart way one Swiftie is already preparing financially for Taylor's next tour.

Are we getting TS13? Debut? Eras Tour mashups? Another tour? Absolutely nothing?

We don't know. But Taylor Swift is up to something, and we're Swiftspecious and on- alert!

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You get 13 tracks to create the perfect Taylor Swift album. That's it. Choose wisely.

This sounded like a fun little assignment until we actually tried to do it and realized it might be one of the hardest things we've ever done on this podcast.

Nick created Bangers, an album full of hype songs, a questionable sexy section and some very predictable Nick Adams favorites. Ana took a completely different approach and built an album with an actual storyline that starts in love, crashes spectacularly, gets angry, gets reflective and eventually comes out Clean.

But somehow BOTH albums left off one song that might get us kicked out of the Swiftie community. Amy knows all too well how that worked out for her.. And notice that she suspiciously wasn’t on this episode!

So now it's your turn. You get 13 Taylor Swift songs from her entire discography. What's making your perfect album? Please let us know! All the ways to contact us are below!

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We officially made it to the final track of The Life of a Showgirl, and there was no better way to finish than with our Day One lobster, Grayson, joining us and sharing his thoughts on our final TLOASG track!

We’re breaking down “The Life of a Showgirl” featuring Sabrina Carpenter and everything hiding behind the glitter, sequins and lovely bouquets. Why did Taylor Swift say that Sabrina was the perfect person for this song? Who is Kitty inspired by? There are some thoughts on who she could possibly be, and where the name came from!  

And is this the first time Taylor has talked about fame without sounding afraid of eventually being replaced?

We also get into Taylor and Sabrina’s very different experiences with fame, the impossible expectations placed on women in entertainment, some Clara Bow and The Lucky One parallels, and the full circle Eras Tour moment hidden at the end of the song.

And because Taylor Swift likes to tease her next album with the closing track, we have to ask what that ending could be telling us about whatever comes next.

Plus we accidentally invent a new game called Condescending or Southern, which honestly may need to become a thing.

It’s the final song breakdown, but we’re definitely not done with The Life of a Showgirl yet.

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Taylor Swift has officially entered her favorite season... and you know what that means. The clown makeup is back on and Swifties are looking to one date… and it’s a very recognizable one!

This week we're diving into all the biggest Swiftie theories taking over the internet. Is August setting us up for another surprise announcement? Are all the recent Taylor Nation posts actually connected? What do the color changes, Spotify canvases, Blank Space clues, and mysterious August references really mean?

We also debate whether Taylor could be planning another tour, revisit the Debutation theories, wonder if TS13 might finally include wedding photos, and hear some incredible ideas from our listeners about future podcast episodes.

As always, we don't claim to have all the answers... but we're definitely going to overanalyze every clue together.

Grab your clown nose, your calendar and curiosity and let's investigate.

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Taylor Swift somehow turned one little word into one of the sweetest songs on The Life of a Showgirl.

This week we're breaking down Honey, talking about the lyrics that made us smile, the voice memo that gives us a peek into Taylor's songwriting process, and all the little details we almost missed. We get into why this song feels so healing, the surprising Grease connection, why "graffiti my whole damn life" might be one of the best lyrics on the album, and of course we somehow end up talking about pet names, bad dating stories, and the names we'd never want to be called.

Plus we hear from listeners with some amazing episode ideas, a wedding story that accidentally became Taylor-coded, and one Swiftie from Scotland who absolutely made our day.

Let us know...what's your favorite lyric from Honey?

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Taylor Swift has been through more public backlash than almost any artist of her generation, yet somehow she always comes back stronger.

This week we're breaking down "CANCELLED!" from The Life of a Showgirl and talking about every major moment people tried to cancel Taylor throughout her career. From the 2016 snake era to the Kanye phone call, the Reputation comeback, the masters battle, and even the recent Blake Lively headlines, we're connecting all the dots behind one of the album's most fascinating songs.

We also dive into the lyrics that have Swifties convinced this song contains hidden references to Blake Lively, explore why Taylor has become the unofficial expert on surviving public judgment, and discuss the impossible standards women face in the spotlight.

Whether you think this song is about Taylor, Blake, or something much bigger, we had so much fun unpacking every lyric and theory. Let us know what you think because we know Swifties always catch something we missed.

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Taylor Swift is officially married... and Swifties, we have SO much to talk about.

After waiting for the rumors to settle (and apologizing for doubting Madison Square Garden), we're breaking down every supposed detail from Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's wedding that we know so far…. Here’s the TEA that we have gathered so far about the big day. 

We finally get to catch up and chat about everything we think we know so far, including why Taylor and Travis chose Madison Square Garden, the incredible celebrity guest list, surprise appearances, and who may have quietly reunited. We dive into Adam Sandler officiating the ceremony, the romantic "TNT" details woven throughout the wedding, the wedding prizes, Taylor's rumored Christian Dior wedding dress, and whether we'll ever see the official wedding photos. 

We also talk about reports that Taylor walked down the aisle to an instrumental version of "Love Story," the heartfelt vows, the sweet stories about Travis, the generous charitable donations they made ahead of their wedding, and all the little details that are making Swifties emotional.

Whether you've been following Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's love story since that first Chiefs game or you're catching the feels after the wedding, we are happy that you are joining our recap filled with LOVE.

Also I’m kinda embarrassed to ask but did you see us ALL there? I’m looking at you, fellow lobsters. 

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This week, we're putting our Taylor Swift knowledge to the ultimate test with TWO fan-inspired games that quickly spiral into complete mayhem. First, we attempt to identify Taylor songs from just a fraction of a second of audio. Will we recognize the classics or will panic completely erase years of Swiftie training?

Then things get even more treacherous.

Inspired by our lobster Krista from Alabama, we take on a blind ranking challenge featuring Taylor's legendary Track 6 "whiplash" songs—the upbeat, chaotic tracks that follow the emotional devastation of Track 5. Without knowing what's coming next, we have to rank songs like You Belong With Me, 22, Mirrorball, Midnight Rain, I Think He Knows, But Daddy I Love Him, Look What You Made Me Do, and more.

The results? Questionable. The regrets? Immediate.

Along the way, we hear sweet messages from listeners, debate whether Mirrorball deserves top-tier status, and expose which Taylor songs we're willing to defend with our lives.

Which Track 6 will we put in the top spot? 

Featuring Taylor Swift trivia, Track 6 rankings, Swiftie debates, fan shout-outs, Easter eggs, The Tortured Poets Department, Midnights, Lover, 1989, Reputation, and plenty of laughs along the way.

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Taylor Swift is keeping BUSY.. and these last few weeks have been extra eventful. 

From a surprise performance during the Tight End University summit to a major career milestone that had even industry legends singing her praises, Taylor has been collecting headlines faster than we can keep up. We talk about it ALL.. the sporty debut of the Knicks girlies, all of the sweet moments from the Songwriters Hall of Fame and her surprise performance for the second year in a row at TEU.. Podcast roadtrip next year to either TEU or the TS13 tour?!

Plus, we're diving into the latest wedding rumors, bachelor and bachelorette party speculation, and the clues that have fans convinced something HUGE is happening behind the scenes. Is Taylor quietly preparing for a new era? Is a certain re-record finally on the horizon? And then there’s the tour chatter… 

We also discuss:

The emotional speech that left fans teary-eyed

The surprise performances that has Taylor popping up unannounced

New TS13 theories, tour predictions, and Easter eggs

Grab your friendship bracelets and clown makeup, because we're connecting the dots on all the latest Taylor Swift news, theories, and surprises.

Are we getting Debut (Taylor's Version)? TS13? A wedding? All three? There’s a lot to discuss.

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