Though it's deep in THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT tracklist, one of the hosts claims this song to be their favorite on the album! 

Why did this song recently spike in streams, and what is it about this tortured poetry that people are finding relatable? Escape to the secret gardens of the podcast and take a listen to our break down of the lyrics, references, and more! 

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In today's special SwifTEA episode, we are joined by Karla, the founder and president of Taylgate Takeovers! Taylgate Takeovers are the unofficial Eras Tour reunion weekends, the 1-stop shop Swiftie festival coming to cities across the US! 

Hear all about what to expect at the Eras Tour reunion, from karaoke to fashion shows to a live performance from Lover: A Taylor Swift Tribute! Plus, hear about Karla's inspiration behind the events and how she pulled together a team of Swiftie professionals to help her bring the joy of the Eras Tour back to Swifties! 

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Taylor has been writing about a young, fun, kick-your-feet-and-giggle, type of love since she was a teenager, and now she's experiencing that kind of love in "So High School"

Ana, Nick, Amy, and Lacey talk all about the song inspired by classic 90s rom-coms, the playful teenage references, a certain football player's inspiration, how she incorporated the song into the Eras Tour, and more!! 

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To all our incredible listeners... you're my, my, my... loverrrrrrrrrrr.... Happy Valentine's Day from us to you! We are giving away a "Lover: Live from Paris" heart-shaped vinyl to a lucky listener! Find out how to enter to win in this special, loving, episode! 

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As we continue the run of songs that Taylor wrote and produced with Aaron Dessner, "How Did It End" touches on Taylor's struggle with facing a public breakup. She delivers a story with various points of view, until her own emotions come through.

Lacey, Nick, Amy, and Ana break down the lyrics of the song, the references, the definitions, and more! Plus, take a listen to a few voicemails from listeners!

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Who are Chloe, Sam, Sophia, and Marcus, that Taylor is name-dropping in this song? Are the real people in her life or is she once again taking us into her imagination? 

Throughout THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT, Taylor explores the deepest anxieties of her mind through imagined situations. Nick, Lacey, Amy, and Ana discuss the lyrics, callbacks, similarities, and recurring themes of this song and the album as a whole. 

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Our girl Taylor was up for 6 awards at this year's Grammys, but unfortunately walked away empty handed.... but we are still winners for having THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT on repeat, and we are so proud of our chairman! 

Lacey, Ana, and Nick discuss all the biggest moments from the Grammy awards, the upcoming Super Bowl, the incredible outfit that Taylor wore, and more! 

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Wise men once said.... listening to Taylor Swift makes you smarter! Did you know that "The Albatross" was inspired by an 18th century poem? Leave it to Taylor to educate us on poetry that we never knew about! 

In this song, Taylor takes a story about how in olden times sailors saw albatross birds as signs of bad luck and misfortune, and flips the script to take the power as a woman who is often seen as an enemy. 

Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey discuss the lyrics, the storytelling, the inspiration, the history, the poetry... everything that goes into an outstanding Taylor Swift song on THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT. 

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Is it just us, or does "imgonnagetyouback" scratch an itch in your brain? One of the more upbeat songs on THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT, Taylor explores the idea of indecision with cleverly written lyrics. 

What inspired this song? Is Taylor smiling and smirking throughout the song? Plus, did you know that you can get the same lilac short skirt that Taylor sings about in this song? 

Join Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey as they deep dive into the next track on The Anthology portion of TTPD. 

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Be honest, you've stalked your ex on some sort of digital footprint before... it's okay, even Taylor Swift does it! In this episode, Lacey, Ana, and Nick discuss the first track of The Anthology portion of THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT, "The Black Dog". 

In this song, Taylor describes the emotional turmoil that goes through her head when she thinks about her ex being out at a bar with someone else. The lyrics, the build up, the emotions, there is so much depth in this song to explore! How does this song make a clear distinction between the standard edition of the album and the "double album" also known as The Anthology? Is The Black Dog a real place? And if so, how did they react to being name dropped on the album? Let's discuss! 

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There's glitter on the floor after the party... and a new year means we have a new bingo board, and naturally we found a way to make it competitive... 

Nick, Ana, and Lacey make bold predictions for events and announcements that could happen in 2025 by putting together a bingo board to keep up with for the entire year! 

Are any of these predictions possible? Do you think any will come true? Or are some of them extremely far-fetched? Take a listen and let us know what you think! 

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