Betrayal, closure, maturity... all things that Taylor Swift explores in the song "Peter", a fan-favorite from THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT. 

"Peter" is not only a take on the classic Peter Pan, but also a twist of a story we've heard in Taylor Swift's discography before... Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey explore the lyrics, symbolism, call-backs, fairy tales, and plot-twists found in this poetic track! 

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Introducing LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before from On Purpose with Jay Shetty.

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How would your life change if your healing reshaped not just your body, but your entire way of being?

What if the real change wasn’t about losing anything—but about gaining a deeper connection to yourself?

In this deeply vulnerable episode, global superstar Lizzo sits down with Jay for an unfiltered conversation about loss, boundaries, transformation, and what it really feels like living in the spotlight. Lizzo shares how her loyalty to friends and her habit of seeing the good in everyone sometimes came at the cost of her own peace.

She shares what happened when she finally stopped chasing relationships that no longer served her—and how distance gave her clarity on who was truly in her corner. Lizzo opens up about the pain of letting people go, the reality of feeling isolated, and the music that came out of her lowest moments.

Lizzo dives deep into how the recent public scandal impacted her—and why she’s now more intentional than ever with her words, her energy, and her healing. Lizzo opens up about the responsibility of being a public figure, how her weight release journey evolved into a powerful personal transformation, and why she's chosen to let go of toxic energy.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

How to Let Go of One-Sided Relationships

Why Some People Disappear When You Set Boundaries

How to Honor Your Emotions Without Editing Them

How Your Energy Shapes What You Attract

How Love Without Drama Becomes a Flow State

What It Means to Grow Apart Without Guilt

Why Intentional Healing Starts With Self-Awareness

Lizzo’s transformation is a reminder that you can still believe in people—and protect yourself. You can evolve—and still be soft. And you can face the hardest season of your life—and still come back to love.

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Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

02:31 Sound Bath For Healing

07:40 Understanding Astrology to Change Your Life

10:38 Choose How to Lead Your Life 

15:28 How to Protect Your Peace

19:28 Getting Inspiration from Grief

26:02 Set Boundaries to Protect Yourself

35:05 Do You Believe in Love?

39:24 Continue to Be Yourself

43:14 Stand Up for Your Cause

46:39 Stop Forcing Relationships to Happen

50:18 Know Your Role, Stay in Your Lane

56:36 Advice for Aspiring Artist

58:40 How to Become an Unconditional Lover

01:02:40 The Power of Self Love 

01:05:51 Be Real About Your Journey

01:11:03 Letting Go of What’s Holding You Back

01:14:12 Become the Best Version of Yourself

01:15:45 Lizzo on Final Five

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Did you know that Taylor Swift was inspired by Greek mythology when she wrote “Cassandra”? The lyricist of our generation found a way to take a story and adapt it in a way that not only applies to her, but to all women. 

Ana, Lacey, Amy, and Nick discuss the lyrics to “mad woman”’s sister song, and how it connects to other parts of Taylor’s discography, life, and also moments in recent societal culture. 

Plus, a few voicemails from listeners! 

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We never thought we'd see the day where we break down Taylor Swift's 9th studio album, "evermore", but we finally made it!!

Take a listen as Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey break down their initial rankings on "evermore" before deep diving into the album as a whole!

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Taylor Swift was honored with a lot of awards at the iHeartRadio Music Awards, including Tour of the Century!! Were you clowning for Taylor to show up and make a big announcement? Did you catch the subtle easter eggs in her acceptance video?

Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey break down everything that happened, the clues, the easter eggs, and the potential for the next date to clown for! 

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Taylor Swift thinks that she is doomed to a life of solitude because she chose to share her craft and talents with the world, but is there a way that she can change that? She did figure it out and she gave this song a happy conclusion during an acoustic mashup at the Eras Tour! 

Ana, Lacey, Amy and Nick discuss all of the connections and theories surrounding this vulnerable song that is giving major Track 5 vibes. 

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In "I Look In People's Windows", Taylor Swift continues the metaphorical exploration of "what if" that we've seen all throughout THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT. A song that explores the aftermath of a lost connection, Taylor uses the idea of looking in from the outside to show how she's deep in her own thoughts of what could've been.

Lacey, Ana, Nick, and Amy break down the lyrics of the song, how it connects to others across her discography, the inspiration from Emily Dickinson, and so much more!

Where does this song fall in your TTPD rankings? And did you know this song could be the answer to a trivia question? Let's discuss!

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When Taylor Swift released THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT, Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey were hosting a LIVE listening party to react to the album all together. Their surprise to seeing one of their very own names in a title was crazy, but then to actually hear the lyrics... it quickly became a forever-iconic moment in 13 podcast history!! Relive it all in this special episode!

PLUS, a breakdown of the lyrics and the 15-year long history that lead to Taylor writing this song in the first place. And is the song a jab, or is it actually a red-herring? And how does this song apply to more songs across Taylor's discography? 

And speaking of thank you, a huge thank you to PopFlex and Blogilates for sending us a package full of goodies! 

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Though it's deep in THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT tracklist, one of the hosts claims this song to be their favorite on the album! 

Why did this song recently spike in streams, and what is it about this tortured poetry that people are finding relatable? Escape to the secret gardens of the podcast and take a listen to our break down of the lyrics, references, and more! 

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In today's special SwifTEA episode, we are joined by Karla, the founder and president of Taylgate Takeovers! Taylgate Takeovers are the unofficial Eras Tour reunion weekends, the 1-stop shop Swiftie festival coming to cities across the US! 

Hear all about what to expect at the Eras Tour reunion, from karaoke to fashion shows to a live performance from Lover: A Taylor Swift Tribute! Plus, hear about Karla's inspiration behind the events and how she pulled together a team of Swiftie professionals to help her bring the joy of the Eras Tour back to Swifties! 

Learn more about Taylgate Takeovers and get your tickets at taylgatetakeovers.com

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Taylor has been writing about a young, fun, kick-your-feet-and-giggle, type of love since she was a teenager, and now she's experiencing that kind of love in "So High School"

Ana, Nick, Amy, and Lacey talk all about the song inspired by classic 90s rom-coms, the playful teenage references, a certain football player's inspiration, how she incorporated the song into the Eras Tour, and more!! 

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