Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Peter Santenello. Peter is an independent filmmaker and storyteller who goes deep into places most people only know through headlines. From the southern border and forgotten corners of America to communities shaped by poverty, culture, politics, and pressure, Peter captures the human terrain with a small camera, honest questions, and a willingness to listen. In this episode, we get into cartel-run routes at the border, fentanyl, New Orleans, legacy media, the business of YouTube, and the stories most outlets miss. We also discuss Peter’s upcoming book, YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS. This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel. This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company. Learn more about Peter: https://petersantenello.com/

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Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Derek Benner, CEO of OUR Rescue and a veteran of nearly three decades in federal law enforcement. Derek served with Homeland Security Investigations, helped lead the creation of the DHS Center for Countering Human Trafficking, and now continues that mission through OUR Rescue’s work combating sex trafficking and child exploitation. We get into the evolution of Homeland Security Investigations, the adaptability of modern cartels, drug smuggling, money laundering, human trafficking, child exploitation, and how technology has become a weapon predators use to target children. We also discuss the role of electronic storage detection dogs, survivor care, prevention, and why law enforcement cannot arrest its way out of this crisis. This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel. This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company. To learn more about OUR Rescue, visit https://ourrescue.org/ THE FOURTH OPTION : https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/ Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS

Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by my former Navy SEAL Teammate John Devine of Devine K9s and the Rescue 22 Foundation. John brings decades of experience working with elite K9s, from the SEAL Teams to personal protection dogs and service dogs for veterans. We discuss the selection and training of SEAL K9s, the bond between handler and dog, how these dogs operate in combat, and what breeds like the Belgian Malinois require of those who take on the responsibility. This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel. This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company. To learn more about Devine K9s, visit https://www.devinek9s.com/ To learn more about the Rescue 22 Foundation, visit https://www.rescue22foundation.org/ THE FOURTH OPTION : https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/ Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS

Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Ben and Jessica Owen, founders of We Fight Monsters, an organization dedicated to confronting trafficking and addiction with a lawful, boots-on-the-ground response. Ben and Jessica share their own battles with addiction, homelessness, and life inside trap houses in South Memphis, and how recovery led to restoration and a calling to go back for others. We get into their mission to Rescue, Recover, and Restore, the reality of addiction as a tool of control, the connection between narcotics and exploitation, their work converting former dope houses into recovery spaces, their experience running safe houses during the Afghanistan evacuation, and why redemption often begins by helping others. This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel. This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company. HUXWRX Safety Co.: https://huxwrx.com/ Staccato 2011: https://staccato2011.com/ Bravo Company USA: https://bravocompanyusa.com THE FOURTH OPTION : https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-fourth-option/ Order on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4sZEdJS To learn more about We Fight Monsters, visit https://wefightmonsters.org/

Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Ed Calderon, a former Mexican counter-narcotics officer with firsthand experience fighting organized crime on the front lines.

We get into the evolution of Mexican cartels from smuggling organizations into paramilitary forces, the rise of CJNG, drones, corruption, tradecraft, operational security, and why the security challenges facing Mexico are inseparable from the future of the United States.

This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.

This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company USA.

Today on DANGER CLOSE: THE FOURTH OPTION, I’m joined by Steve Murphy and Javier Peña — the real DEA agents behind Netflix’s Narcos.
Straight from the agents who were there: working undercover in jeans and a polo with a target on their backs, Escobar’s self-built prison, treason charges, and the order that changed everything — “We’re not here to seize dope. We’re here to kill Pablo Escobar.”
This is a companion podcast to my new thriller, THE FOURTH OPTION, talking to those on the front lines, analyzing modern warfare, and taking listeners deeper into the themes that inspired the novel.
This podcast series is presented by HUXWRX Safety Co., Staccato 2011, and Bravo Company.

Today, Jack is joined by Taylor Kitsch who plays Ben Edwards in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video for the final installment of this Danger Close Dark Wolf podcast series.
Jack and Taylor walk through the origin of Ben Edwards in The Terminal List, every episode of Dark Wolf, the moments that defined Ben’s character, and stories from behind the scenes covering what it took to bring Ben's depth and humanity to life on screen.
They also get into the motorcycles, Ben's tattoos, the physical toll of the action sequences, Jack's cameos, the opening sequence and music, the significance of including Once an Eagle, and where the series may be headed.
This is a companion podcast to The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video, taking listeners deeper into the story, characters, and creative process behind the series.
Watch The Terminal List: Dark Wolf: https://www.amazon.com/Terminal-List-Dark-Wolf-Season/dp/B0F7HFJ64C 
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Get an early start on THE FOURTH OPTION. Listen to Prologue, Part 2, narrated by Ray Porter.
The audiobook drops along with the hardcover and eBook on May 12. Pre-order today: https://bit.ly/TheFourthOptionAudio
Audio excerpt courtesy of Simon & Schuster Audio from THE FOURTH OPTION by Jack Carr and M.P. Woodward, read by Ray Porter. Copyright © 2026 by Tomahawk Creative, Inc. Used with permission of Simon & Schuster, Inc.

Get an early start on THE FOURTH OPTION. Listen to Prologue, Part 1, narrated by Ray Porter.
The audiobook drops along with the hardcover and eBook on May 12. Pre-order today: https://bit.ly/TheFourthOptionAudio
Audio excerpt courtesy of Simon & Schuster Audio from THE FOURTH OPTION by Jack Carr and M.P. Woodward, read by Ray Porter. Copyright © 2026 by Tomahawk Creative, Inc. Used with permission of Simon & Schuster, Inc.

Today, Jack is joined by Dar Salim in Dar’s first ever podcast appearance! Dar plays Mohammed “Mo” Farooq in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video. 

In this episode, Jack and Dar cover the physicality of the character, the moral grey zone he operates in, and the subtle nuance that makes his decisions resonate with audiences. They explore the relationships that define the story, the scale and authenticity behind the action sequences, and the foundation that grounds the world of Dark Wolf.

Dar also shares the remarkable life journey that shaped him as a person and an actor, and what's ahead in True Believer.

Watch The Terminal List: Dark Wolf: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Terminal-List-Dark-Wolf/0MYH9XYR9SCGXB57LR8ES71GFL

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This is a companion podcast to The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video, taking listeners deeper into the story, characters, and creative process behind the series.

Today, Jack is joined by Luke Hemsworth, who plays Jules Landry in The Terminal List: Dark Wolf.

In this episode, Luke and Jack discuss what it takes to portray a character who is likable but unsettling at the same time, Luke’s ability to bring Landry's dynamic with Ben, Tal, Eliza, and Raife to life, the tension beneath the surface and the fine line between charm and menace that defines the Jules Landry character.

They also cover Luke's first days on set with Taylor Kitsch, the difficult scenes with Tal and how those were handled with care, and the arc building toward Luke’s transformational moment as Landry in True Believer.

This is a companion podcast to The Terminal List: Dark Wolf on Prime Video, taking listeners deeper into the story, characters, and creative process behind the series.

Watch The Terminal List: Dark Wolf: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Terminal-List-Dark-Wolf/0MYH9XYR9SCGXB57LR8ES71GFL

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