- 51 minutes 5 seconds444. How Christianity Can Help Save Democracy
In this episode, Tim Whitaker brings on Michael Barrett, a seasoned lawyer and Christian, discusses the deep roots of Christian nationalism, its historical evolution, and how faith intersects with politics in America. He offers insights on how Christians can navigate and challenge the current landscape with integrity and love.
Chapters
02:09 Michael's Background and Christian Tradition
05:56 Historical Roots of Christian Nationalism
12:06 The Evolution of Religious Politics from the 1950s to Today
14:53 The Role of Systemic Roots in Political Movements
20:12 The Misuse of Scripture in Political Discourse
42:03 Upcoming Courses on Faith, Law, and Politics
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28 September 2026, 8:00 am - 57 minutes 47 seconds443. White Body Supremacy is Heresy
In this episode, Tim Whitaker brings on Starlett Thomas to explore the deep roots of racial violence, white supremacy, and the importance of truth-telling in healing and justice.
Starlett's Website | Racelessgospel.com
Chapters
03:40 Starlett Thomas shares her background and calling
10:05 The body, memory, and racial trauma in America
12:55 The history of lynching and racial violence
17:02 The religion of whiteness and its rituals
36:05 White body supremacy as heresy
44:39 Closing thoughts and call to truth-telling
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21 September 2026, 8:00 am - 1 hour 4 minutes442. Was America Founded as a Christian Nation?
In this episode, Tim Whitaker and Andrew Seidel explore the historical and constitutional basis of the United States' relationship with Christianity, debunking myths about the founding fathers' religious beliefs and the influence of Christian principles on American law and culture.
Chapters
08:34 — The founders’ personal faith versus America’s founding principles 17:08 — Universal morality, equality, and the Christian principles argument 25:42 — The Deuteronomy citation claim and founding-era evidence 34:16 — Natural law, God-given rights, and human freedom. 42:50 — The “Christian nation” claim and Ten Commandments in schools 51:24 — Church-state separation and the future of religious freedom
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14 September 2026, 8:00 am - 52 minutes 13 seconds441. The Truth about Biblical History: It's Complicated
In this episode, biblical scholar and archaeologist Dr. Cynthia Schaefer-Elliott explains how we understand the ancient world and biblical history through archaeology, textual analysis, and comparative studies. She discusses the complexities of biblical texts, archaeological evidence, and how to approach the Bible with nuance and context.
Chapters
01:53 Understanding the biblical texts as multi-vocal and layered
08:55 Archaeology's role in verifying biblical narratives
19:53 The importance of dating methods in archaeology
35:01 Approaching the Bible with nuance and understanding its original context
44:46 Final thoughts and recommendations for listeners
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7 September 2026, 8:00 am - 1 hour 10 minutesRebroadcast: 421. The War on Black Women Under Trump
*This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 421. The War on Black Women Under Trump*
Original Description:
In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with Lisa Sharon Harper discusses the urgent need for embodied, community-driven action to combat systemic injustice, particularly the economic targeting of Black women. She shares stories of resilience and emphasizes the importance of faith, local activism, and understanding historical narratives to drive real change. Harper highlights initiatives like "The Clearing" project, which supports Black women, and offers practical steps for moving from digital activism to tangible on-the-ground efforts.
Chapters
01:21 The Impact of Policies on Black Women
06:48 Faith and Social Justice
10:34 Community Engagement and Trust Building
21:26 Supporting Black Women and Initiatives
27:22 Embodied Action vs. Online Activism
33:05 Resilience and Economic Empowerment
45:37 Call to Action and Closing Thoughts
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31 August 2026, 8:00 am - 54 minutes 37 secondsRebroadcast: 422. Faith Unlynched with Dr. Angela Parker
*This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 422. Faith Unlynched with Dr. Angela Parkert*
Original Description:
In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with Dr. Angela Parker shares her journey as a biblical scholar, her approach to interpreting scripture, and how her work challenges fundamentalist perspectives. She discusses the importance of nuance, historical context, and the Black liberation tradition in understanding the Bible and resisting white Christian nationalism.
Chapters
02:09 Dr. Parker's Journey in Biblical Scholarship
06:42 Navigating the Complexity of Biblical Texts
17:01 Faith and Certainty in Biblical Interpretation
26:01 Experiences of Black Women in Academia
35:54 Reframing the Biblical Narrative
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24 August 2026, 8:00 am - 54 minutes 8 secondsRebroadcast: 424. Islam 101 with Qasim Rashid
*This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 424. Islam 101 with Qasim Rashid*
Original Description:
In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in a profound conversation with Qasim Rashid discusses the core principles of Islam, its history, and how it promotes peace, religious freedom, and interfaith understanding. He addresses misconceptions about Sharia law, the diversity within Islam, and the importance of unity in a pluralistic society.
Chapters
02:59 Understanding Islam: Myths and Realities
08:56 The Quran: Its Significance and Preservation
12:04 Sharia Law: Misconceptions and Realities
21:11 Understanding Religious Extremism and Its Context
25:45 Historical Perspectives on Islam and Coexistence
30:37 The Role of Faith in Interfaith Relations
35:40 Concepts of Afterlife and Justice in Islam
40:44 Building a Pluralistic Society Against Extremism
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17 August 2026, 8:00 am - 56 minutes 5 secondsRebroadcast: 400. The Separation of Church and Hate
*This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 400. The Separation of Church and Hate*
Original Description:
In today's episode, Tim interviews John Fugelsang, author of 'The Separation of Church and Hate.' They discuss John's upbringing in a Catholic household, the hijacking of Christianity by fundamentalists, and the challenges of engaging with those who hold extremist views. The conversation also touches on the role of media in shaping perceptions of Christianity, the impact of Trump on evangelicalism, and the importance of shared values in combating Christian nationalism. John emphasizes the need for Christians to return to the teachings of Jesus and to advocate for love and compassion in society.
John on Twitter | @Johnfugelsang
Chapters
02:45 John's Background and Early Influences
08:29 Engaging with Fundamentalism
14:47 Cognitive Dissonance in Evangelicalism
20:42 The Challenge of Critical Thinking in Faith
38:30 The Role of Media in Shaping Narratives
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10 August 2026, 8:00 am - 59 minutes 38 secondsRebroadcast: 408. I Used to Work For Turning Point. Here's How I Got Out
*This is a Rebroadcast of Episode 408. I Used to Work For Turning Point. Here's How I Got Out*
Original Description:
In today's episode, Tim Whitaker speaks with Caroline Stout, a former employee of Turning Point USA, about her journey from evangelical fundamentalism to a more nuanced understanding of faith and politics. Caroline shares her experiences growing up in a mega church, her involvement with Turning Point USA, and the evolution of the organization over the years.
Caroline on Instagram | @Babyblue.tx
Caroline on TikTok | @Babyblue.tx
Chapters
05:10 Growing Up in Evangelical Culture
15:02 The Evolution of Turning Point USA
24:45 The Impact of Media and Propaganda
35:06 Navigating Complexities of Faith and Politics
40:05 Conclusion and Future Directions
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3 August 2026, 8:00 am - 47 minutes 5 seconds440. Ok but is Hell Really a Thing?
In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in an insightful interview with Brian Recker about his book 'Hellbent' and explores the concept of hell, deconstruction, and the future of Christianity. They discuss how traditional views of hell have shaped theology and how a more love-centered approach can transform faith and justice.
Order Brian's Book | Hellbent
Chapters
05:02 Hell as a metaphor for systemic evil
15:09 The role of metaphor and story in spirituality
25:12 The systemic roots of Christian supremacy
35:08 Practical steps toward justice and love
39:48 Closing thoughts and resources
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27 July 2026, 8:00 am - 1 hour 6 minutes439. Composting White Supremacy
In this episode, Tim Whitaker engages in an insightful interview with Ciarra Jones, also known as the Gardening Theologian, about her journey through faith, theology, and activism. They explore themes of white supremacy, deconstruction, queer theology, and the intersection of faith and social justice.
Ciarra's Website | Ciarrajonesconsulting.com
Chapters
05:38 Discussing white supremacy and American history in theology
11:08 Higher education and deconstruction of fundamentalist beliefs
15:27 Queer sexuality and faith reconciliation
20:02 The impact of family and community on faith and identity
43:31 The power of embodiment and marginalized voices in faith
54:53 The role of biblical interpretation and social consensus
01:01:33 Closing remarks and where to find Sierra Jones
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