This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Compass Box Crimson Cask and dive into the wild world of AI infrastructure chaos, factory engineering, and why yelling at your computer might actually be the most productive workflow. They dig into the death of OpenClaw after a catastrophic tokenization failure, the rise of sparse attention with SubQ, NPM worms targeting TanStack, Mythos cracking Apple's M5 memory integrity for $35K in tokens, and why Ghostty is leaving GitHub after 18 years. Along the way, they debate building playgrounds versus digging holes, trampolines without nets as peak 90s parenting, factory engineering versus single prompt life, skull.style as the future of passive income, caveman versus JSON for LLM efficiency, clipping as a new parasitic job category, and whether GitHub's three nines uptime is actually just a built in excuse to touch grass.

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In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:06:12 Trampoline Safety & Parenting Philosophy
• 00:14:08 Hawaii Whiskey Adventures & The Tourist Problem
• 00:21:55 OpenClaw Is Dead: The Great Bot Breakdown
• 00:25:57 ClaudeClaw Factories & The Art Director Life
• 00:39:34 Loop Engineering & Factory Concepts for AI Workflows
• 00:47:47 NPM Worms, TanStack Pwned & The RMRF Kill Switch
• 00:50:03 Mythos Cracks Apple's M5 Security for 35K in Tokens
• 00:53:35 Gastown's Secret Self-Improvement & Elon vs OpenAI
• 00:58:32 GitHub's Two Nines Problem & Ghosty's Exodus
• 01:06:55 SubQ: Sparse Attention & Caveman Mode Built In
• 01:11:10 Clipping Culture & The Volume Game

Links

• Compass Box Crimson Cask: https://www.compassboxwhisky.com/
• OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• ClaudeClaw: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude
• Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/
• TanStack: https://tanstack.com/
• SubQ: https://subq.ai/
• Mythos: https://mythosai.com/
• Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/
• GitHub: https://github.com/
• Gastown: https://gastown.dev/
• Nano Banana: https://nanobanana.ai/
• Skull Style: https://skull.style/
• Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
• Railway: https://railway.app/
• Bun: https://bun.sh/
• Discord: https://discord.com/
• NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com/
• Peer.co: https://peer.co/
• Ardbeg Wee Beastie: https://www.ardbeg.com/
• Lagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/
• Hi Rye Whiskey: https://hirye.com/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/

Connect with the hosts

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream and dive deep into their entrepreneurial origin stories, from childhood hustles to band life to building apps for dead platforms. They dig into selling guppies as a fish pimp, child modeling for Nintendo ads, third grade pepto menthol schemes, breeding birds that pecked themselves, mowing lawns fast, and why nipple piercings are a bad investment. Along the way, they debate pop punk band names like Superband, recording with Fruity Loops, screamo versus emo trajectories, Under Oath versus Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, fight dancing versus moshing, ticket scams at Graystone Tavern, horror game mechanics in Outlast and Dead Space, proximity chat hacks in Phasmophobia and Peak, why RV There Yet is too hard, selling Die Ants Die on the BlackBerry Playbook, device walls for IE5 through IE8, and whether scotch aged in bourbon casks is secretly amaretto.

Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:05:30 Early Entrepreneurial Adventures: Fish Pimping & Child Modeling
• 00:14:48 Hot Topic Tripp Pants & The Band Years Begin
• 00:19:24 Pop Punk Covers, Recording Studios & The MySpace Era
• 00:28:49 From Metal to Hip Hop: Musical Evolution & Nerdcore
• 00:32:57 Video Game Nostalgia: From Zelda to Dead Space
• 00:39:37 Survival Horror Deep Dive: Outlast, Dead Space & Phasmophobia
• 00:50:02 Peak, RV There Yet & The Difficulty Problem
• 00:53:41 Mobile Dev Nightmares: BlackBerry Playbook & Die Ants Die
• 00:57:29 Browser Wars & Device Testing Hell
• 01:04:19 Whiskey Review: Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream

Links

• Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream: https://www.glenmorangie.com/
• Maylene and the Sons of Disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maylene_and_the_Sons_of_Disaster
• Under Oath: https://underoath777.com/
• Dashboard Confessional: https://www.dashboardconfessional.com/
• John Mayer: https://www.johnmayer.com/
• Me First and the Gimme Gimmes: https://www.gimmemusic.com/
• MF Doom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MF_Doom
• Aesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/
• Sage Francis: https://www.sagefrancis.net/
• Atmosphere: https://atmosphere.com/
• Del the Funky Homosapien: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_the_Funky_Homosapien
• Fruity Loops: https://www.image-line.com/
• Analog Pocket: https://www.analogue.co/pocket
• Slay the Spire: https://www.megacrit.com/
• Zelda Ocarina of Time: https://www.zelda.com/
• Metroid: https://metroid.nintendo.com/
• Resident Evil: https://www.residentevil.com/
• Bioshock: https://bioshockgame.com/
• Fable: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/fable
• Outlast: https://redbarrelsgames.com/games/outlast/
• Dead Space: https://www.ea.com/games/dead-space
• Phasmophobia: https://kineticgames.co.uk/
• Peak: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1643520/Peak/
• RV There Yet: https://rvthereyet.com/
• BlackBerry Playbook: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_PlayBook
• Palm Pre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre
• Adobe PhoneGap: https://phonegap.com/
• Califia Farms: https://www.califiafarms.com/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/
• Clerk: https://clerk.com/

Connect with the hosts

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch

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This week, Robbie and Adam are live from the Clerk booth at React Miami with Christina Martinez, DevEx engineer at Resend, former gym owner, and creator of the viral Gen Z slang Babel plugin. They dig into whether React is a framework, React Server Components, hooks versus signals, HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus vanilla CSS, semicolons, TypeScript noise, and why C Sharp felt like too much ceremony. Along the way, they debate OpenClaw bots with personalities, gardening tips from AI assistants, personifying Telegram bots named Woz, touching hotel plants without permission, spider wort propagation etiquette, second brains in Obsidian, agent to agent email negotiations powered by Resend, why Claude eats context like candy, tabs on top versus the left, Google search versus LLMs, and whether AI will take out designers or developers first.

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:01:38 Hot Takes: React, Server Components & Framework Debates
• 00:02:32 Hooks, HTML & The Programming Language Debate
• 00:04:10 Tailwind, Git Workflows & Semicolons
• 00:05:40 Programming Languages, TypeScript & C Sharp Struggles
• 00:08:00 Have We Reached AGI? The Personification Problem
• 00:10:11 OpenClaw Bots, Gardening Tips & The Plant Tangent
• 00:14:07 AI Assistants: Memory, Email & Bot-to-Bot Communication
• 00:17:51 Anthropic Pi Shutdown, Token Costs & API Strategies
• 00:19:55 AI Harnesses: Cloud Code, Cursor & Developer Tools
• 00:20:25 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?
• 00:21:16 Editor Preferences, Browser Tabs & The Right-Side File Explorer
• 00:23:39 Google vs LLMs, Composition vs Inheritance & Package Managers
• 00:25:48 Anthropic vs OpenAI & The OpenClaw Copyright Drama
• 00:28:02 Crocs, Taylor Swift & The Marketing Empire
• 00:30:51 Conference Talk Debrief & Inspiring Silly Software
• 00:31:52 Gen Z Slang Babel Plugin: From Yeet to Viral Success
• 00:35:30 Resend Forward Conference & Building Crafted Software
• 00:36:23 Doom Runs in Email & Wrapping Up

Links

• Resend: https://resend.com/
• Resend Forward Conference: https://resend.com/forward
• Gen Z Slang Babel Plugin: https://github.com/christinamartinez/babel-plugin-gen-z
• Worst Video Tool: https://worstvideo.tool/
• Taylor Swift UI: https://taylorswift.ui/
• React: https://react.dev/
• React Server Components: https://react.dev/
• OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• Claude Claude: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude
• Pi: https://pi.ai/
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurf
• VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
• Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
• Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/
• Zen Browser: https://zen-browser.app/
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com/
• ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/
• TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
• Babel: https://babeljs.io/
• NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
• PNPM: https://pnpm.io/
• Clerk: https://clerk.com/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Telegram: https://telegram.org/
• Doom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game)

Connect with Christina

• X / Twitter: https://x.com/_christinacodes
• GitHub: https://github.com/christina-de-martinez

Connect with the hosts

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

Subscribe and stay in touch

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This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Joel Hooks—co-founder of Egghead, tool builder, course creator, backend architect, indie hacker, advisor, consultant, father of five, and automation enthusiast—to talk dark factories, custom AI harnesses, and whether we've reached the point where looking at code is optional. They dig into Pi versus OpenClaw, YOLO mode, building local extensions, JoelClaw self-documentation, and why React is absolutely a framework. Along the way, they debate whether CSS knowledge is now your biggest advantage, semicolons, rebasing with AI, the death of pointing and clicking, HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus vanilla CSS, whether AGI is here yet, and why teaching your nine-year-old to read still matters even when LLMs exist.

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:01:56 Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library & Server Components
• 00:03:41 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Solid Question
• 00:05:51 Is HTML a Programming Language? CSS, Tailwind & Willful Ignorance
• 00:11:18 Git Rebase, Reflogging & The Flogging Margins Problem
• 00:13:08 Programming Languages, Dancing & Learning to Like Things
• 00:16:04 Have We Reached AGI? Nuclear Arsenals & The Paperclip Problem
• 00:18:20 Pi AI Harness: YOLO Mode, Local Extensions & Custom Tools
• 00:19:15 JoelClaw: Building a System Agent & The American Express Extension
• 00:26:44 Dark Factories, Telegram Interfaces & Never Looking at Code
• 00:29:17 Claw in Your Pocket, Home Infrastructure & The Mac Mini Reboot
• 00:31:03 Family Claws, Claw Mom & Alpha School
• 00:35:05 LLMs vs Google Search, Encyclopedia Replacement & Party Bullshit
• 00:36:51 Package Managers, BEM Trauma & Every CSS Processing Method
• 00:38:39 Anthropic vs OpenAI, Hermes vs OpenClaw & Building from Scratch
• 00:39:55 Hobbit Feet, Rainbow Tattoos & The Whiskey Suffering Tax
• 00:43:03 Root Beer Logic, Licking Smokers & Wrap Up

Links

• Egghead: https://egghead.io/
• Badass.dev: https://badass.dev/
• Pi: https://pi.ai/
• OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
• JoelClaw: https://joelclaw.com/
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• React: https://react.dev/
• Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/
• Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
• Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/
• Telegram: https://telegram.org/
• Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
• Alpha School: https://alphaschool.com/
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com/
• TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
• PNPM: https://pnpm.io/
• NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
• SCSS: https://sass-lang.com/
• JSX: https://react.dev/learn/writing-markup-with-jsx
• Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/
• Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
• AI Hero: https://aihero.dev/
• Code with Antonio: https://www.codewithantonio.com/
• Total TypeScript: https://www.totaltypescript.com/
• Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/

Connect with Joel

• Website: https://joelhooks.com/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/joelhooks

Connect with the hosts

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami with a packed lineup of rapid fire interviews and hot takes. They catch up with Jason Lengstorf about driving a quarter million dollar Lamborghini through Miami with a police escort, the philosophy behind The Build Log show, and why the principles of building matter more than the tools. They talk with Kent C. Dodds about his personal AI assistant Cody, MCP servers versus OpenClaw, why he's building agents to work on agents, and the future of personal versus cloud based AI. Tanner Linsley drops by to discuss polymorphic UI libraries, spec driven development with state machines, and why determinism matters when AI is writing your code. Francesco shares his thoughts on Prolog being the most hated programming language, why Grok is best for harsh feedback, and his mission to convince JavaScript developers that Rust is the future of backend development.

Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:01:39 The Lamborghini Experience & Building The Build Log
• 00:09:09 Hot Takes with Jason: React, Semicolons & CoffeeScript Trauma
• 00:13:48 Kent C. Dodds on MCP, Personal Agents & The Future of AI Assistants
• 00:21:40 Hot Takes with Kent: React, Hooks & AGI
• 00:25:58 Ryan & The TikTok Aesthetic: Instagram Ads, Keyboards & Airport Fashion
• 00:31:39 GitHub's Two Nines Problem & The Git Repo Revolution
• 00:39:30 Phone Wars: iPhone vs Android, Vision Pro Failures & The Flip Phone Dream
• 00:45:47 Tanner Linsley on Polymorphic UI Libraries & Spec-Driven Development
• 00:55:55 The Slop Fork Debate & Projections of Software Specs
• 00:58:42 State Machines, BDD & Multi-Agent Orchestration
• 01:01:43 Hot Takes with Tanner: Tailwind, Dark Factories & Cloud Code Desktop
• 01:11:31 Francesco on Rust for Web Development & Conference Culture
• 01:29:00 The Grok Advantage: Hard Feedback & Comparing Things
• 01:35:29 GitHub Downtime Normalization & The Feature of Forced Breaks
• 01:41:33 Wrap Up & The Power of In-Person Connections

Links

• Clerk: https://clerk.com/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Lamborghini Huracan: https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/models/huracan
• MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
• OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/
• Pi: https://pi.ai/
• Grok: https://grok.x.ai/
• Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/
• Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
• TanStack: https://tanstack.com/
• TanStack Start: https://tanstack.com/start
• Remix: https://remix.run/
• React: https://react.dev/
• Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
• Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
• TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
• Kotlin: https://kotlinlang.org/
• Prolog: https://www.swi-prolog.org/
• Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/
• Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
• Vercel: https://vercel.com/
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com/
• Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
• Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/

Connect with Jason

• Website: https://www.learnwithjason.dev/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/jlengstorf

Connect with Kent

• Website: https://kentcdodds.com/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/kentcdodds

Connect with Tanner

• Website: https://tanstack.com/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/tannerlinsley

Connect with Francesco

• Website: https://francescociulla.com/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/FrancescoCiull4

Connect with the hosts

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Ken Wheeler to talk AI harnesses, multi-agent swarms, survival bags, and whether React is finally a framework. They dig into React Server Components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, semicolons, Java hate, AI token arbitrage, and why you should subscribe to every AI service simultaneously. Along the way, they debate whether AI will replace designers or developers first, cruise ship chair warfare strategies, Replit as the ultimate vibe coding platform, hunting tech with geotagged tree stands, Eagle Scout projects, and why Ramon the 420 IQ gorilla leads the Apex Collective.

Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:03:20 Hot Takes: Is React a Framework or Library?
• 00:04:59 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?
• 00:06:52 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Power of Proxies
• 00:08:40 Semicolons, Java & Programming Language Hot Takes
• 00:12:46 AI Harnesses: VS Code Copilot, OpenCode & Steve
• 00:16:08 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?
• 00:23:20 Cruise Ship Warfare & The Art of Chair Defense
• 00:28:01 Token Arbitrage & The Multi-AI Subscription Strategy
• 00:29:18 Replit Deep Dive: The Ultimate Vibe Coding Platform
• 00:32:31 Hunting Tech: Geotagging, Compass Apps & Finding Tree Stands
• 00:34:01 The Survival Bag: Apocalypse-Ready with Obliterated Qwen
• 00:36:55 Eagle Scouts Unite & The Boy Scout Expulsion Story
• 00:40:53 Ramon & The Apex Collective: The Wildest Multi-Agent Swarm
• 00:46:29 Hermes vs OpenClaw & Making with Ramon
• 00:50:12 Wrap Up & Where to Find Ken

Links

• Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/
• React: https://react.dev/
• React Server Components: https://react.dev/
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/
• Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
• Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/
• Gea: https://geajs.com/
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
• VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
• Replit: https://replit.com/
• OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
• Hermes: https://hermesengine.dev/
• Steve: https://github.com/kenwheeler/steve
• Qwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com/
• IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
• HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/
• Clerk: https://clerk.com/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Slick Carousel: https://kenwheeler.github.io/slick/
• TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/

Connect with Ken

• X / Twitter: https://x.com/kenwheeler
• GitHub: https://github.com/kenwheeler

Connect with the hosts

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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This week, Robbie and Adam are coming to you live from the Clerk booth at React Miami with a rapid-fire lineup of lightning podcasts. Fueled by Cutwater cocktails and conference energy, they caught up with Nnenna Ndukwe, Michael "Micky" Shimeles (AKA Rasmic), and the legendary Ryan "Thighs" Vogel for a rotating cast of hot takes, stories, and web dev chaos. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why some programming languages just feel wrong. Along the way, they debate AI harnesses, codex versus Claude drama, token leaderboards, AGI predictions, security vulnerabilities in NPM, sidebar placement preferences, tabs on top versus the side, and whether dark factories are the future.

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:02:11 Hot Takes: React, Server Components & Framework Debates
• 00:03:19 Hooks, Signals & The Future of Reactivity
• 00:03:26 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate
• 00:04:05 Git Rebase vs Merge & Developer Workflow Preferences
• 00:06:21 AGI, AI Harnesses & The State of AI Development
• 00:09:12 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?
• 00:10:54 Code Editors, Tabs & Terminal Trends
• 00:16:34 Google Search vs LLMs & Developer Research Habits
• 00:17:24 Composition vs Inheritance & Package Manager Wars
• 00:20:29 Security Nightmares & Social Engineering Attacks
• 00:23:34 OpenAI vs Anthropic & The AI Model Wars
• 00:25:32 Personal Preferences: Coffee, Whiskey & Beards
• 00:27:22 Second Guest: Svelte 5, Signals & Framework Philosophy
• 00:29:39 React Server Components Deep Dive & Performance Reality
• 00:31:17 GPT 5.5 Announcement & The Token Spending Arms Race
• 00:35:09 GStack Drama & Gary Tan Controversies
• 00:36:49 Monorepos, Turborepo & Modern Build Tools
• 00:41:31 AI Coding Tools: Cursor vs Copilot vs Codex
• 01:05:31 The Future of Web Development & Wrap Up

Links

• Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/
• React: https://react.dev/
• React Server Components: https://react.dev/
• Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
• Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/
• Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/
• OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurf
• Zed: https://zed.dev/
• VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
• Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
• Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/
• Arc Browser: https://arc.net/
• Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/
• NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
• PNPM: https://pnpm.io/
• Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com/
• Convex: https://www.convex.dev/
• Clerk: https://clerk.com/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/

Connect with Nnenna

• Website: https://www.nnennahacks.com/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/nnennahacks

Connect with Micky

• Website: https://www.rasmic.xyz/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/Rasmic

Connect with Ryan

• Website: https://ryan.ceo/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/ryanvogel

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• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami at the Clerk booth, sipping Cutwater cocktails and talking hot takes with Typecraft. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why Python might be the least friendly language out there. Along the way, they debate AI in interviews, whether we've reached AGI, 3D printing chocolate, homeschooling with AI agents, the value of bullying, voice dictation workflows, whether you should bother learning Vim anymore, AI flow state versus brain fry, why COBOL won't die, and the probability hack for getting creative outputs from LLMs.

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:02:52 Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library & Server Components
• 00:05:26 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Future of Reactivity
• 00:08:12 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate
• 00:11:51 Git Rebase vs Merge: The Honest Approach
• 00:13:54 Semicolons, Package Managers & Programming Language Preferences
• 00:25:01 AI in Interviews & The New Developer Workflow
• 00:29:59 Have We Reached AGI? The Bar is Lower Than You Think
• 00:31:35 3D Printing, Homeschooling & The Value of Bullying
• 00:49:33 AI Flow State: Voice Dictation, Remote Control & Long-Running Agents
• 00:46:24 Should You Learn Vim in the Age of AI?
• 00:51:01 AI Intensifies Work: Productivity Paradox & Brain Fry
• 01:03:33 COBOL, Mainframes & Why Legacy Tech Won't Die
• 01:09:40 The Probability Hack: Getting Creative AI Outputs
• 01:12:27 Wrap Up & Where to Find Everyone

Links

• Cutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/
• Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/
• React: https://react.dev/
• Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
• React Server Components: https://react.dev/
• Remix: https://remix.run/
• GEA: https://geajs.com/
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/
• Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
• Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
• Vim: https://www.vim.org/
• NeoVim: https://neovim.io/
• Python: https://www.python.org/
• Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/
• Dart: https://dart.dev/
• Java: https://www.java.com/
• COBOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL
• Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/
• NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
• PNPM: https://pnpm.io/
• IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
• Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com/
• Clerk: https://clerk.com/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/
• Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/

Connect with Chris

• Website: https://typecraft.dev/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_dev

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• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Seth Webster—executive director of the React Foundation, former React lead at Meta, and chief developer evangelist at Expo—to talk React's past, present, and future, whether frameworks still matter in the age of AI, and why constraints are the secret to good code. They dig into React Server Components, the evolution of error messages, stable API work for React Native, and why agents need frameworks just as much as humans do. Along the way, they debate HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus semantic CSS, the economics of tokens, open source sustainability, and whether taste is the only differentiator left when everyone has access to the same AI tools.

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:02:12 Is React a Framework or Library?
• 00:04:35 React Server Components: The Full Stack Story
• 00:18:15 Frameworks in the Age of AI
• 00:23:39 Error Messages & Developer Experience for AI
• 00:27:12 React Foundation Goals & Stable API Work
• 00:31:15 Open Source Contributions & Career Growth
• 00:34:29 AI Code Provenance & Compensating Open Source
• 00:42:44 Differentiation in a Saturated AI World
• 00:45:30 Call to Action: Start Building with AI

Links

• React Foundation: https://react.foundation/
• Expo: https://expo.dev/
• React: https://react.dev/
• React Native: https://reactnative.dev/
• React Server Components: https://react.dev/
• Clerk: https://clerk.com/
• Vercel: https://vercel.com/
• Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/
• Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
• OpenAI: https://openai.com/
• Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
• TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Linux Foundation: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/
• Meta: https://about.meta.com/
• CSS Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/
• Remix: https://remix.run/

Connect with Seth

• X / Twitter: https://x.com/sethwebster
• React Foundation: https://react.foundation/

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• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Shaw from CodePen to talk CSS animations, web components, server side rendering nightmares, and why building things by hand still matters in the age of AI slop. They dig into the CodePen 2.0 rewrite, Apollo GraphQL cache manipulation, the pain of reactive variables on the server, why Code Mirror 6 is both brilliant and bizarre, and whether stacks and fans will finally solve the PR review problem. Along the way, they cover HTML as a programming language, handwritten code museums, agentic parenting disasters, and why showing up prepared beats luck every time.

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:02:25 Whiskey Tasting: Andalusia Stryker Texas Smoked Single Malt
• 00:04:32 Hot Takes: Is HTML a Programming Language?
• 00:10:50 Chris Coyier vs Adam Argyle: The Impossible Choice
• 00:13:21 Git Worktrees, Stacks & Fans: Modern Version Control
• 00:22:21 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?
• 00:24:30 CodePen 2.0: Building a Modern Editor from Scratch
• 00:39:18 AI in CodePen: Curation Over Generation
• 00:45:07 Agentic Parenting & The Fart Sycophant Problem
• 00:57:00 Raising Creative Kids in the Age of Screens
• 01:10:43 Whiskey Review & Final Thoughts

Links

• Andalusia Texas Smoked Single Malt Whiskey: https://andalusiawhiskey.com/
• CodePen: https://codepen.io/
• CodePen 2.0: https://codepen.io/
• KeyFramers: https://keyframers.com/
• Code Mirror 6: https://codemirror.net/
• Apollo GraphQL: https://www.apollographql.com/
• Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
• GitHub Stacks: https://github.com/
• React Server Components: https://react.dev/
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• Project Hail Mary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_Mary
• Pico-8: https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php
• Spike Prime: https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-education-spike-prime-set/45678/
• Blockly: https://developers.google.com/blockly
• Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
• Go: https://go.dev/
• Vercel: https://vercel.com/
• StackBlitz: https://stackblitz.com/
• Monaco Editor: https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/
• VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
• Raised by Wolves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series)
• The Manualist: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheManualist
• Aesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/
• Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
• Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/

Connect with Shaw

• Website: https://shshaw.com/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/shshaw

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• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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This week, Robbie and Adam sip on Ardbeg Wee Beastie and dive into the wild world of AI development, cloud leaks, and whether humans are officially becoming wetware in their own systems. They explore the Claude code source leak, the death of OpenClaw third party harnesses, the rise of instant translation, pretext typography magic, agentation for visual debugging, and why second brains might be the only way to remember your neighbor's names. Along the way, they debate agent versus agent negotiations, Pika stream video calls, celebrity deathmatch AI battles, and why your kids' skate competitions are more fun than piano recitals.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

• 00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
• 00:00:36 Sponsor: Warp Terminal & Cloud Agents
• 00:03:19 Whiskey Introduction: Ardbeg Wee Beastie
• 00:04:42 Claude Code Source Leak & The Anthropic Approach
• 00:08:20 Model Wars: Opus vs Everything Else
• 00:11:44 OpenClaw Replacements & The Memory Problem
• 00:25:20 Mythos: The Ultimate Hacker Death Star
• 00:29:16 The Four-Day Work Week Lie & Doing More Work Than Ever
• 00:49:14 Second Brains & Local-First AI Memory
• 00:39:23 Pretext: Bypassing Browser Layout for Typography Magic
• 00:44:21 Agentation: Visual AI Debugging
• 00:47:02 Instant Translation & The Death of Duolingo
• 00:58:23 Pika Stream: Video Chat With Your AI Agent
• 01:02:34 Agent vs Agent: Celebrity Deathmatch for AI
• 01:04:35 Whiskey Rating & Wrap Up

Links

• Ardbeg Wee Beastie: https://www.ardbeg.com/en-US/whisky/wee-beastie
• Lagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/
• Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
• Ahas: https://ahas.dev/
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
• Claude Claude: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaude
• Pi: https://pi.ai/
• OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
• Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
• Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot
• Cinty: https://cinty.ai/
• Hark: https://hark.ai/
• Post Bridge: https://postbridge.io/
• Pretext: https://pretext.app/
• Agentation: https://agentation.ai/
• Pika Stream: https://pika.stream/
• Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/
• Astro: https://astro.build/
• Deno Fresh: https://fresh.deno.dev/
• Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/
• Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
• Famous: https://famous.co/
• React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
• Nerdy Dev: https://nerdy.dev/
• Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/
• TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
• Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
• Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/

Connect with the hosts

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter
• Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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