Almost every conversation about AI is about power — what it can do, what jobs it will replace, and who it will enrich. Almost no one is asking what it would mean to bring care to this technology. In this solo episode of Care More Be Better, host Corinna Bellizzi, PhD, draws on Carol Gilligan's ethics of care, her own doctoral research into regenerative enterprise, and her personal experience using Claude and ChatGPT in dissertation research to make the case that AI can be an amplifier of care — but only with intention, transparency, and accountability. She covers the copyright settlement Anthropic reached with authors in July 2026, the attention question, the RFK Jr. MAHA report hallucinations, and the four questions everyone should ask before adopting any AI tool.

Complete Blog: https://caremorebebetter.com/can-ai-be-used-responsibly-the-ethics-of-care-in-a-machine-age/

Chapter Markers

• 00:00 — Opening Question: What Does It Mean to Care When Machines Mediate How We Learn?
• 01:00 — Introduction: A Solo Episode on AI Ethics
• 02:00 — AI Is Already in Your Life Whether You Chose It or Not
• 03:00 — What Ethics of Care Actually Is — Gilligan, Noddings, and the Care Tradition
• 05:00 — Ethics of Care and Regeneration as Near-Synonyms
• 05:30 — The Care Questions AI Raises: Copyright, Ecology, Labor, Attention
• 06:00 — The Copyright Reckoning: Anthropic's $1.5B Settlement and 35+ Active Cases
• 06:30 — The Ecological Footprint: Water, Energy, and Whose Community Hosts the Data Center
• 07:00 — The Labor Question: Whose Words Trained the Model?
• 07:30 — The Attention Question: What Happens to Wonder When Answers Arrive Instantly?
• 08:00 — The Whale Bends Story — and What Was Lost
• 10:00 — Using AI in Doctoral Research: Building Intelligent Queries
• 12:00 — Claude vs. ChatGPT: The Hallucination Problem
• 13:30 — The RFK Jr. MAHA Report: What Happens When Nobody Checks
• 14:00 — Using Claude for the RSD15 Paper: Editing Without Outsourcing the Thinking
• 16:00 — AI in Podcast Production and the Disclosure Question
• 17:30 — The Website Disclaimer: What It Says and Why
• 18:30 — AI as Amplifier of Care — Used With Intention
• 19:00 — Four Questions to Ask Before Adopting Any AI Tool
• 20:00 — The Freedom Not to Use AI: Your Integrity Is Yours
• 20:30 — Closing: Embracing Technology with Intention, Purpose, and Integrity

"Ethics of care moves us from thinking in rules and regulations, in inputs and outputs, to who is affected and what do they need. This show's name is essentially a care ethics thesis. Care more, be better. The order matters. You have to care first."

— Corinna Bellizzi, PhD | Care More Be Better | Episode #301

Resources and References:

• In a Different Voice — Carol Gilligan (1982)
• Caring: A Feminine Approach to Ethics — Nel Noddings (1984)
• The Ethics of Care — Virginia Held (2006)
• Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis — Paul Hawken
• Anthropic copyright settlement — Reuters
• MAHA Commission report — Washington Post coverage
• RSD15 Conference — Relating Systems Thinking and Design
• Claude — Anthropic
• DuckDuckGo — AI-free search option
• Brave Search
• Startpage
• AI Disclosure — caremorebebetter.com
• Scary Smart — Mo Gawdat
• From Ideas to Income with AI — Zach & Jason Francis, Ep. 296 (previous episode)

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Many social change organizations struggle to bridge the gap between the values displayed on their office walls and the actual practices in their daily operations. Achieving true values alignment requires navigating deep humanity, conflict, and the inevitable shame that arises during transitional periods. In this episode, host Corinna Bellizzi sits down with Genevieve Smith, an organizational effectiveness consultant and founder of GV Advisory. Genevieve shares her unique approach as a "professional bummer" who facilitates difficult but necessary conversations around power sharing, organizational grief, and leadership transitions. She explains how drawing inspiration from preschool classrooms and using tools like the community garden metaphor can help teams get unstuck, build trust, and move from panic to practical solutions.

Full Blog Here: https://caremorebebetter.com/getting-unstuck-facilitation-and-the-work-of-values-alignment-with-genevieve-smith/

About Guest: Genevieve Smith is an organizational effectiveness consultant using a facilitative approach to her work with foundations and nonprofit organizations. She collaborates with companies on organizational effectiveness efforts, staff and board retreats, and helps them navigate conflict and grief. Genevieve's work tends to make the most sense for organizations in transition who have big questions about how to move forward and what to leave behind.

Guest Website: https://gv-advisory.com
Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gvadvisorygv/

Additional Resources Mentioned:
• The Revolution WIll Not Be Funded, INCITE! https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-revolution-will-not-be-funded-beyond-the-non-profit-industrial-complex-incite-women-of-color-against-incite/381bf42fe2436b30
• The Success Spectrum, Eugene Kim (of the collaboration gym): https://fasterthan20.com/workout/success-spectrum/
• Creative Destruction, Liberating Structures: https://www.liberatingstructures.com/creative-destruction

Chapter Markers:

01:04 The Evolution Of A "Professional Bummer" In Organizational Effectiveness
06:58 Navigating Massive Transitional Moments And Organizational Crisis
12:06 The AI Disruption: The Danger Of Polished Plans Over Rough Drafts
17:58 Grappling With Wealth And Philanthropy In The Social Sector
27:50 Power Sharing Vs. Abdication: Explaining "Power Under"
37:05 Tending To Acute Organizational Grief And Leadership Departures
42:00 The Myth Of Neutrality: How Everyday Actions Build Or Erode Trust
50:23 Getting Unstuck: Practical Tools And Experiments For Staff And Leadership

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This bonus episode revisits Corinna's Nutrition Without Compromise conversation with Chef Babette Davis, who was interviewed on Care More Be Better as Episode 174 in February 2024, roughly 6 months after this BONUS episode was originally recorded and shared on Nutrition Without Compromise. In this episode, they discuss:

• Babette's childhood: asthma, eczema, refined sugar and MSG addiction inherited from her mother's cooking
• The rough road through her 20s and 30s, including a seven-month battle with crack cocaine
• Meeting Randall in 1990: the Griffith Park run, her first vegan meal, and the two books that changed everything (Fit for Life and the Mucusless Diet Healing System)
• Food combining principles and why "mucus" is about systemic inflammation, not just congestion
• Honest talk on protein, B12, and omega-3s for plant-based eaters, plus personalizing nutrition through simple at-home testing
• Building Stuff I Eat, Inglewood's first vegan restaurant, and her advocacy with Mercy for Animals

Notable quote: "All you have to do is have a little bit of knowledge of what foods to eat together that will eliminate so much of your indigestion." / "At 73 years old, I don't have to harm anyone to nourish myself."

Resources:

• Chef Babette on Instagram: https://instagram.com/chefbabette
• Chef Babette on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chefbabette
• Stuff I Eat (Inglewood, CA): https://www.stuffieat.com/
• Cash In On Cashews by Chef Babette Davis
• Fit for Life by Harvey Diamond: https://www.amazon.com/Fit-Life-Harvey-Diamond/dp/0446300152/
• Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret: https://www.amazon.com/Mucusless-Diet-Healing-System-Scientific/dp/1884772005

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The federal government plans to kill 450,000 barred owls over 30 years to protect the northern spotted owl — while simultaneously narrowing the definition of harm under the Endangered Species Act to allow old-growth forest logging that will destroy the spotted owl's habitat.

Wayne Pacelle, president of Animal Wellness Action and the Center for Humane Economy, joins Corinna Bellizzi to expose the timber industry logic behind both moves. Together, they explain what's happening to wild horses and wolves on America's public lands, and share what 35 years of animal protection work has taught Wayne about how a slippery slope can lead to environmental devastation. We must act to protect America's open spaces and wild habitats.

• 00:00 — Introduction: The Spotted Owl, the Barred Owl, and the Question of Whose Fault It Is
• 04:00 — The 14-Mile Zone of Life: How Much Room Do We Actually Share?
• 06:00 — The Northern Spotted Owl: History, Habitat, and the Timber Wars
• 10:00 — The Barred Owl Is Not Invasive: The Range-Expansion Argument
• 14:00 — Human Beings Crossed the Bering Land Bridge: Applying the Same Logic
• 18:00 — The Plan to Shoot 450,000 Owls: Why It Won't Work
• 20:00 — The Endangered Species Act: How the Definition of Harm Is Being Gutted
• 23:00 — The One Big Beautiful Bill and the 60% Timber Increase
• 27:00 — Old Growth Redwoods, Carbon, and the True Cost of Logging
• 30:00 — The Lawsuit and What Comes Next
• 32:00 — Wild Horses: 80,000 vs. 4.3 Million Cattle
• 36:00 — Wolves: Delisted for Politics, Hunted by Snowmobile
• 37:00 — Fertility Control as a Humane Alternative
• 39:00 — Why Every Animal Sequesters Carbon
• 40:00 — The Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Its Origins
• 44:00 — The Environmental Groups That Got This Wrong
• 47:00 — Direct Mail, Organizational Efficiency, and the 95% Program Model
• 50:00 — What Animal Wellness Action Has Actually Accomplished
• 53:00 — Wildfires, Forest Management, and Fossil Fuels
• 57:00 — The Colorado River and the Water Crisis
• 01:00:00 — What You Can Do: Congress, Donations, and Showing Up
• 01:02:00 — Closing: Inspired and Enraged

  Resources

  • Wayne Pacelle on LinkedIn
  • Animal Wellness Action — animalwellnessaction.org
  • Center for Humane Economy — humaneeconomy.org
  • Wayne Pacelle on X
  • Wayne Pacelle on Instagram
  • The Bond — Wayne Pacelle
  • The Humane Economy — Wayne Pacelle
  • Action Alert: Barred Owl Kill Plan
  • Action Alert: Endangered Species Act Definition of Harm
  • Donate to Animal Wellness Action
  • Aldo Leopold — A Sand County Almanac
  • Bill McKibben on Ezra Klein Show

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For decades, large corporations have privatized their massive profits while quietly shifting environmental, social, and health costs onto the public. Unpacking these systemic costs is central to the discussion in The Profiteers, which diagnoses how business practices impact society at large. In this episode, host Corinna Bellizzi speaks with Christopher Marquis, Professor of Chinese Management at the University of Cambridge Judge Business School and author of Better Business, to analyze the hidden mechanics of corporate externalities. From plastics lobbying and regulatory co-optation to visionary models of regenerative agriculture and foundation ownership, they explore why exposing systemic corporate abuse is the first crucial step toward real reform. Discover how innovative enterprise models, policy levers, and conscious consumer choices can help build a truly sustainable and regenerative economy.

About Guest: Professor Marquis’ research and teaching focus on how some of the biggest crises of our day – including climate change, inequality, and discrimination – are intimately connected to how our current economic and societal systems prioritize accumulating and concentrating wealth for the few over the concerns and needs of everyone and everything else. His research and writing focus on the need to rebalance the interactions between corporations, governments, and civil society to deliver socially and environmentally beneficial outcomes to all. Marquis is the author of The Profiteers: How Business Privatizes Profits and Socialize Costs. His earlier books include the award-winning Better Business: How the B Corp Movement is Remaking Capitalism and Mao and Markets: The Communist Roots of Chinese Enterprise, which was a Financial Times Best Book of 2022. He has also authored more than 20 peer-reviewed academic articles and more than 50 Harvard business cases on topics related to social innovation, sustainable business and doing business in China. Professor Marquis served 2 terms as an Associate Editor at Administrative Science Quarterly and has also been a Senior Editor at Organization Science and Management and Organization Review. He has also served a term as Representative at Large for the International Association for Chinese Management Research (IACMR) and Organization and Management Theory Division, Academy of Management. Before returning to academia, Marquis was a Vice President and Technology Manager at JP Morgan Chase. He currently is on the sustainability advisory board of the French multinational Sanofi Consumer Healthcare.

Guest Website & Socials:
https://chrismarquis.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-marquis-3884834/
https://x.com/Chris_Marquis_
https://substack.com/@chrismarquis

Resources Mentioned:
BOOK: The Profiteers https://amzn.to/4zbwM66
BOOK: Better Business https://amzn.to/4crRPHF

Key Topics Discussed (with time stamps):
01:32 Who Really Pays For Corporate Externalities?
07:22 The Plastic Dilemma: Rethinking Packaging In Sustainable Business
11:57 Privatizing Profits & Socializing Costs: Unpacking Corporate Externalities
20:37 Lessons From GE: How Shareholder Primacy Distorts Business Ethics
30:17 Big Tech And Algorithms: Profit Growth Vs. Corporate Accountability
36:30 Unpacking The Policy Debate: Plastic Lobbying & Chemical Recycling
44:19 Rethinking Lifecycles: Circularity And Extended Consumer Responsibility
51:58 Regenerative Agriculture: How Purpose-Driven Brands Restore Soil & Systems
01:00:02 Building A Regenerative Economy: Purpose-Driven Governance & Ownership
01:07:15 Conclusion & Takeaways: Empowering Individual Action and Policy Reform

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More than 1.3 million children in the United States are unsheltered — and for many of them, a pair of new athletic shoes is not a given but a barrier, to school attendance, to sports participation, to the simple feeling of belonging. Amy Fass, Executive Director of Shoes That Fit, joins Care More Be Better as the domestic companion to the earlier Because International conversation, bringing the lens of childhood shoe insecurity home. She and host Corinna Bellizzi explore what new shoes actually do for a child's self-esteem, the stories of children transformed by something as simple as a name-brand sneaker, the antiquated federal poverty line that leaves millions uncounted, and how to make a concrete difference when the scale feels overwhelming.

Chapter Markers

• 00:00 — Introduction: The Domestic Companion to The Shoe That Grows
• 04:00 — How Shoes That Fit Works: Schools, Partners, and the Model
• 10:00 — The Girl with the Box: 'I've Never Had New Shoes Before'
• 16:00 — Why Name Brands Matter: Self-Esteem and Belonging
• 22:00 — The Physical Cost of Ill-Fitting Shoes: Injuries, Attendance, and Barriers to Sport
• 28:00 — 1.3 Million Unsheltered Children and the Antiquated Poverty Line
• 34:00 — Corporate Partnerships: Nordstrom, Rack Room, GEICO, and On Running
• 40:00 — The 2025 Challenge: Tariffs, Shoe Donations, and the Donor Base That Stepped Up
• 46:00 — Building for Scale: Warehouse Model, Distribution, and the Waitlist
• 52:00 — Leadership Lessons: Resilience, Burnout, and Investing in People
• 58:00 — Advice for Aspiring Nonprofit Founders: Listen First
• 64:00 — Closing: Find One Concrete Thing and Do It

Resources

• Amy Fass on LinkedIn
• Shoes That Fit — shoesthatfit.org
• Shoes That Fit on LinkedIn
• @shoesthatfitcharity on Instagram
• @shoesthatfitcharity on TikTok
• Shoes That Fit on X
• Nordstrom — Shoes That Fit partnership
• Rack Room Shoes
• On Running
• Because International — Ep. 289 (previous episode)
• Godfrey Coker — previous episode
• Lydiah Kemunto Bosire, 8B Education — previous episode
• The Grapes of Wrath — John Steinbeck

Donate to Shoes That Fit: shoesthatfit.org

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Do you know that your body possesses its own innate repair system through the power of regenerative medicine? Stem cell scientist and neurophysiologist Christian Drapeau, MSc joins the show to explore this fascinating topic and how ancient plants can support your body's natural ability to heal. Christian, who is the founder of the supplement company Stemregen and author of the book Cracking the Stem Cell Code, shares his groundbreaking research on how specific plant extracts can naturally stimulate the release of your own stem cells. We explore the paradigm shift in longevity science and how optimizing your innate repair system could change the way we approach health, aging, and disease recovery.

Health Disclaimer

Stemregen is a dietary supplement. Nothing in this episode constitutes medical advice or claims to treat, diagnose, or cure any disease. Stemregen supports the body's natural processes. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider before beginning any new supplement. Corinna Bellizzi is not affiliated with Stemregen.

COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/the-body-as-a-repair-machine-a-deep-dive-into-stem-cells-and-regenerative-medicine-with-christian-drapeau-msc/

About Guest: Christian Drapeau, MSc is a stem cell scientist, neurophysiologist, medicinal plant explorer, and best-selling author with 35+ years in medical research. He was among the first scientists to propose in published literature that stem cells are the body's innate repair system - a paradigm shift now reshaping regenerative medicine and longevity science.

Driven by that discovery, Christian has traveled the world studying ancient plants that naturally support the body's ability to release and deploy its own stem cells. He has lectured in 50+ countries, authored five books, including Cracking the Stem Cell Code, and is the Founder and Chief Science Officer of STEMREGEN. His work bridges rigorous science with nature's intelligence, making regeneration accessible to everyone.

Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-drapeau

Guest Website: https://stemregen.co | https://www.francisbrothers.com/

Guest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stemcellchristian/

Guest TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@stemcellchristian

Guest YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@stemregen

Additional Resources Mentioned:

BOOK: Cracking the Stem Cell Code by Christian Drapwau, MSc

Chapter Markers for Key Topics:

00:00 - Stem Cells: The Body's Natural Defense

05:46 - Debunking The Myths Of Stem Cell Research

09:37 - Understanding The Body’s Innate Repair System

16:41 - Healing Injuries: Injections Vs. Natural Stimulation

24:56 - Ethical Sourcing And The Future Of Plant-Based Medicine

34:37 - Measuring Stem Cell Migration And Healing

44:33 - The Economy Of Health: Regenerating The Human Body

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Zach and Jason Francis have spent their careers proving that doing more with less is not a constraint — it's a philosophy — from a nine-month sailing trip from San Diego to Australia to building tiny homes on HGTV's Tiny Luxury to Willo, an AI platform that takes a business idea from concept to live website in under ten minutes. The brothers join Care More Be Better to share what 21 days at sea taught them about complexity, why ideas die in spreadsheets, how AI agents work like bees in a hive, and how to use AI as a tool that empowers rather than replaces the human behind the vision.

Chapter Markers

• 00:00 — Introduction: The Through Line from Tiny Homes to AI Agents
• 05:00 — Building with a Sibling: Trust, Security, and the Ability to Argue Without Fragility
• 12:00 — The Sailing Trip: 21 Days at Sea and What You Actually Need
• 18:00 — Tiny Luxury to Willo: The Philosophy Was Always the Same
• 24:00 — Complexity Kills: Getting from Zero to One
• 30:00 — What Willo Actually Does: From Idea to Live Website in 8-10 Minutes
• 38:00 — The Seven Agent System: Proactive vs. Reactive AI
• 44:00 — How Willo Differs from Claude, ChatGPT, and Agentic Tools
• 50:00 — AI Energy Footprint: Stewardship Over Avoidance
• 56:00 — The Beehive: How Nature Informs Willo's Agent Design
• 62:00 — Pricing, Roadmap, and What's Next for Willo

COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/from-ideas-to-income-with-ai-zach-and-jason-francis/

About Guests: Brothers Zach and Jason Francis are serial entrepreneurs, builders, and prior hosts of the straight-to-series reality HGTV TV show Tiny Luxury. Over the years, they have built, acquired, and invested in companies spanning real estate, media, software, and artificial intelligence. Their mission is to make entrepreneurship more accessible by simplifying the process of building and growing a business. As the founders of Willo, they are helping a new generation of entrepreneurs turn ideas into real businesses with the power of AI. Beyond business, Zach and Jason are real estate developers, AI investors, beekeepers, sailors, adventurers, and family men who are passionate about creating meaningful companies, exploring new opportunities, and helping others build lives and businesses on their own terms.

Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zach-francis-750200157/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-francis7/

Guest Website: https://willo.ai | https://www.francisbrothers.com/

Guest Socials: https://www.youtube.com/@buildwithwillo | https://x.com/BuildwithWillo | https://www.facebook.com/buildwithwillo/

Additional Resources Mentioned:
Scary Smart by Mo Gawdat

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This is a bonus episode. Back on Juneteenth, we shared Episode 1 of Angela Glover Blackwell's Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life. Last Wednesday, you heard our full conversation with Angela. Today, we're closing that loop with Chapter 6, the final episode of Season 1: Hope Is a Discipline. Angela and choreographer Ana Maria Alvarez explore how art moves a place, and a country, from resistance to creation, with stops along the way for joy, honest pushback on whether LA is really "the model," and a reminder from Mariame Kaba that hope has to be practiced, not just felt. Season 2, focused on Georgia, is out now.

Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life is a podcast created by PolicyLink in partnership with Pineapple Street Studios.

Chapter Markers

• 00:00 — Cold open: Charles White's mural and Angela's reflection on Black artists in the fight for democracy
• 03:32 — Show intro: welcome to Chapter 6, Hope Is a Discipline
• 07:17 — Ana Maria Alvarez on Contra-Tiempo Activist Dance Theater and art as resistance
• 09:15 — Intergenerational organizing: Ana Maria's parents and the village that built PolicyLink
• 10:33 — Resistance as a healthy democratic practice, the salsa metaphor
• 12:53 — Joy as fuel for the movement, adrienne maree brown and Pleasure Activism
• 15:25 — Is LA the model? Denise Fairchild's honest pushback
• 16:31 — Manuel Pastor: "a thing of beauty with our friends"
• 17:35 — Anthony Thigpen: standing at the brink
• 18:30 — 2024, the biggest global election year in history
• 21:00 — Hope is a discipline, the Mariame Kaba idea
• 22:07 — Justin Jones and Justin Pearson: expelled, reinstated, undeterred
• 23:17 — Fight for 15, ROC United, and the New Georgia Project with Nse Ufot
• 25:58 — Closing reflection and Shanaka Hodge's poem
• 27:22 — Angela's closing charge, credits, and a call to vote

Resources & Links

• Follow Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life: wherever you listen to podcasts! Season 2: Georgia is available now: https://www.policylink.org/resources/podcasts
• Learn more about PolicyLink: https://www.policylink.org/
• Listen to our full interview with Angela Glover Blackwell (Episode 294): https://caremorebebetter.com/reimagining-democracy-with-angela-glover-blackwell/
• Revisit our Juneteenth share of Episode 1: Los Angeles: https://caremorebebetter.com/juneteenth-feature-angela-glover-blackwells-reimagining-democracy-for-a-good-life-episode-1-los-angeles/
• Questions or reflections? Email [email protected]

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Are you tired of feeling helpless about our growing global garbage crisis? Host Corinna Bellizzi sits down with Tom Szaky, the visionary founder and CEO of TerraCycle and Loop, to discuss why we must start Rethinking Waste. Szaky explains how his companies are transforming hard-to-recycle items, like cigarette butts and dirty diapers, into valuable resources. They unpack how the modern concept of disposability has failed us and why a circular economy is the target for sustainable social impact. You'll discover how the chess pieces of business and policy must align to drive scalable, real-world change. This eye-opening discussion will challenge you to reconsider everything you buy and throw away.

COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/nature-has-no-concept-of-waste-tom-szaky-on-terracycle-loop-eliminating-disposability/

About Guest: Tom Szaky is founder and CEO of TerraCycle, a global leader in the collection and repurposing of complex waste streams. TerraCycle operates in 20 countries, working with some of the world’s largest brands, retailers and manufacturers to create national platforms to recycle products and packaging that otherwise go to landfill or incineration. It also created a new circular reuse platform called Loop that enables consumers to purchase products in reusable packaging. Tom and TerraCycle have received hundreds of awards and recognition from organizations including the United Nations, World Economic Forum, Fortune Magazine and U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Tom is the author of four books, Revolution in a Bottle, Outsmart Waste, Make Garbage Great and The Future of Packaging.

Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomszaky/ Guest Website: https://www.terracycle.com/en-US/

Additional Resources Mentioned: BOOK: Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis in One Generation: https://amzn.to/4gwCXIE BOOK: Carbon: The Book of Life: https://amzn.to/4kQi9xL

Time Stamps: 00:58 00:00 - Why True Change Starts With Natural Capitalism 05:10 02:45 - The Hidden Cost Of An Unsexy Utility 08:11 05:30 - Flipping The Economics Of Trash On Its Head 07:37 09:40 - Surviving The Scrutiny Of The System 13:18 13:15 - The Logistics Of Sorting The Unsortable 34:36 17:50 - Designing For Reuse In A Convenient World 52:16 23:20 - Democratizing Capital For A Cleaner Future

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Democracy isn't just something we vote for once every few years, it's something we build together, in our neighborhoods, city halls, and everyday relationships. Corinna Bellizzi is joined by Angela Glover Blackwell, founder of PolicyLink and host of Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life, who has spent more than 50 years working at the intersection of racial equity, housing, and civic life. Angela reflects on how growing up during segregation shaped her understanding of community and leadership, explains why she defines democracy as "co-governance for human flourishing," and makes the case that America may be ready for a third founding. She also shares how tools like civic assemblies and participatory budgeting can restore civic life, and why joy has to remain at the center of any vision for real change.

COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/reimagining-democracy-with-angela-glover-blackwell

About Guest: Angela Glover Blackwell has spent over 50 years working at the intersection of racial equity, housing, and civic life. As the founder of PolicyLink and host of the podcast Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life, she provides a roadmap for rebuilding our communities. In this episode, we discuss why true democracy requires co-governance and active participation from every citizen. We explore how to cultivate joy in our activism and why local leadership is the key to national change. You'll learn how to navigate the complexities of our changing demographics while building a future where everyone can reach their full potential.

Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-glover-blackwell 

Guest Website: https://policylink.org

Guest Social: https://www.youtube.com/policylink 

PODCAST: Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life On PolicyLink.com On Spotify On Apple Podcasts

Chapter Markers

• 00:00 — Introduction: Bioneers, PolicyLink, and Reimagining Democracy
• 05:45 — Early Lessons in Segregation and Resilience: Growing Up in 1950s St. Louis
• 12:30 — Founding PolicyLink: Bridging Community Work and National Policy
• 18:15 — Recreating Civic Life: Civic Assemblies, Participatory Budgeting, and Mutual Aid
• 26:40 — Democracy as Co-Governance for Human Flourishing
• 33:00 — The Third Founding: Why the Nation's Mechanisms Have Outgrown Themselves
• 38:00 — Joy in Activism: Adrienne Maree Brown and What Los Angeles Taught Angela
• 44:10 — Patience, Impatience, and Why We Must Stop Being Nostalgic for a Time That Never Was
• 50:00 — Season 2 of Reimagining Democracy: Atlanta, the Curb Cut Effect, and Hartsfield-Jackson
• 58:00 — Hope Is a Discipline: Answering the Listener Who Has Lost Faith
• 64:00 — The Third Founding, Future Cities, and What Comes Next

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