Talk Energy

Max Gagliardi

This show is focused on learning about all segments of the energy industry, its history and the current events shaping energy's future. Talk Energy features exclusive interviews from leaders, entrepreneurs, and influencers across the energy space, with new episodes releasing twice a week. Video and clips of each episode are available on YouTube and at our website Talk.Energy.

  • 1 hour 1 minute
    #224: Sweaty Start Up - Nick Huber

    In this episode, I sit down with Nick Huber, entrepreneur, real estate investor, and the voice of "The Sweaty Startup." Nick built a multi-million-dollar self-storage empire and champions the power of "boring" businesses that deliver real profits. 

    Today, Nick celebrates the launch of his book, The Sweaty Startup, a guide to building sustainable businesses by focusing on proven models over risky innovation.

    We explore his journey from launching small service companies to scaling major real estate ventures, his candid views on China, tariffs, and the realities of entrepreneurship in the digital age, plus his take on AI, innovation, and why entrepreneurship isn’t for everyone. Whether you’re a first-time founder or a seasoned veteran, this episode is packed with actionable insights.

    Hope you enjoy the show! 

    https://sweatystartup.com/
    https://www.nickhuber.com/

    29 April 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 56 minutes 20 seconds
    #223: AI and the Future of Media - Kaz Bycko

    This episode's guest is Kaz Bycko, a young entrepreneur out of OKC who I have known and worked with over the years. Kaz and his team recently launched Bubbl, an AI-powered platform that curates podcast content. He also co-founded Red Dirt Mining and serves as President of the Oklahoma Bitcoin Association. 

    In this episode, we explore how Kaz is looking to revolutionize the Podcast industry and what Bubbl is doing to enhance podcast discovery. We chat about the evolution of podcasting platforms and how AI will change the way we consume media.

    I've recently been using Bubbl to listen to my favorite podcasts and discover new clips from other shows that when I don't have time to listen to the full episode. I love the direction these guys are taking the platform. If you are someone who enjoys consuming podcasts then check out the Bubbl link in the show notes below. 

    Hope you enjoy the show!

    Kaz's Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/kazbycko
    Bubbl: https://www.bubbl.fm

    Timestamps:
    0:00 – Intro
    2:03 – Guest Welcome & Background
    4:58 – Podcast Digests
    8:03 – Podcast Archive
    9:55 – Human Insights Over AI Summaries
    12:27 – Introducing Bubbl: Breaking media bubble limits
    31:26 – Air Chat: Naval’s Failed Platform
    40:00 – Emphasizing Podcasters’ Feedback Loop
    46:52 – Native App Strategy Using Next.js Technology

    15 April 2025, 9:00 pm
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    #222: The Ridge Wallet Story - Sean Frank

    In this episode, I sit down with Sean Frank, CEO of Ridge Wallet, the brand that redefined men’s accessories with its sleek, RFID-blocking wallets and everyday carry gear.

    Men’s fashion rarely prioritizes accessories, and wallets are something most guys replace once a decade—yet Ridge built a thriving business in a space where success seemed unlikely. We dive into the Ridge Wallet story, the state of e-commerce, the challenges of manufacturing in America, and why the Amazon seller model is crumbling.

    Sean keeps it real and drops a ton of knowledge. Don’t miss this one!

    Hope you enjoy the show!

    27 February 2025, 7:00 pm
  • 59 minutes 1 second
    #221: Building Luxury Cabins in the Woods - Jeff Burns

    In this episode, we have my business partner in our real estate firm Jeff Burns. We start the conversation on how he made an incredible parlay early in his career that has been the foundation of everything we have built in real estate.

    We then touch on the journey, from starting out with an idea, to how it has evolved into a large scale company. We dive into the lessons learned and the challenges faced, from building our own cabins, to launching a ground up waterfront development, to building a social media following, to self-managing all of our properties. 

    If you are interested in Short-Term Rental investing, land development, or property management, then this episode is for you. 

    Hope you enjoy the show!

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Precap
    00:02:06 - Guest Introduction 
    00:08:15 - How he built his company from scratch
    00:13:10 - Saturation on Listings
    00:15:45 - Challenges of Building a Cabin
    00:24:20 - Why did he switch to Self Management?
    00:35:57 - Developing a Resort
    00:53:41 - How we sold the Cabins
    00:58:32 - Conclusion

    11 February 2025, 4:00 pm
  • 9 minutes 52 seconds
    #220: The ESG Bubble Has Burst

    Is ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) investing dead? Once hailed as the future of finance, ESG is now facing a reckoning. From underperforming green investments and political backlash to corporate retreats and cultural pushback, the cracks in the system are undeniable. 

    In this episode, we break down why ESG is crumbling—examining its financial failures, political rejection, and global contradictions. Listen to uncover the truth behind the rise and fall of ESG, and what it means for the future of corporate America.

    PSA below:

    This episode is the restart of the solocast direct message series from the early days of the podcast. I'll be trying to put these shorter form (~10 minute) episodes out weekly along with the normal interview style episodes. 


    7 February 2025, 6:00 pm
  • 1 hour 8 minutes
    #219: Born to Build - Adam Rossi

    In this episode, I sit down with Adam Rossi, who built and sold a successful cybersecurity software company serving federal agencies. Adam shares his journey from structural engineer to tech entrepreneur, offering key insights on starting and scaling a business.

    We discuss his strategic approach to entrepreneurship - working for two years to gain experience before launching his venture, living frugally while his wife's income provided stability, and evolving his company from a one-person engineering software business to a 250-person organization developing sophisticated government tools.

    Adam candidly discusses the challenges of scaling, his post-exit experience, and how he's approached subsequent ventures with a focus on better work-life balance. He shares practical wisdom on how to get started in entrepreneurship, managing risk, and why young founders may have advantages in terms of energy and flexibility.

    The conversation also covers his current projects, including his popular off-grid cabin builds and his perspective on Bitcoin as a tool for financial independence. Adam's story offers valuable lessons for aspiring entrepreneurs and those navigating business ownership's challenges.

    Hope you enjoy the show!

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Precap
    00:02:06 - Introduction and Background
    00:03:49 - Entrepreneurial Journey and Advice
    00:07:04 - The Risk and Reward of Entrepreneurship
    00:12:49 - Dealing with Uncertainty and Loneliness
    00:15:37 - Negative Feedback and Entrepreneurship
    00:18:47 - The Evolution of a Business Idea
    00:20:18 - The Early Days and Challenges
    00:22:02 - First Major Project and Pivot
    00:30:23 - Growth and Evolution of the Company
    00:34:58 - Decision to Sell the Company
    00:38:13 - Life After Selling the Company
    00:40:20 - Transitioning from Retirement to New Ventures
    00:42:25 - Investing and Entrepreneurship
    00:45:55 - Interest in Bitcoin
    00:48:29 - The Struggles of Overthinking
    00:53:15 - The Appeal of Off-Grid Living

    13 January 2025, 7:00 pm
  • 59 minutes 54 seconds
    #218: 2025 Oil & Gas Market Outlook - Dan Pickering

    This episode's guest is Dan Pickering, the well known energy sector analyst and investor currently serving as the chief investment officer at Pickering Energy Partners. 

    Dan has had a track record of successful entrepreneurship ventures throughout his career, notably co-founding Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co. before launching PEP. He's a regular guest on mainstream media outlets providing insights into oil and gas markets, investment strategies, and the evolving energy transition.

    This episode we dive into the future of the oil and gas industry. We discuss the 2025 outlook, investment opportunities, market trends, and the impact of the energy transition on traditional energy sectors. 

    It's always great to get insights from one of the leading voices in energy finance and capital markets. 

    Hope you enjoy the show!

    Timestamps:

    00:00:00- Precap
    00:01:17 - Introduction and Background
    00:03:06 - Impact of Geopolitical Events on Oil Market
    00:06:11 - Impact of the Trump Administration on the Oil Market
    00:07:50 - OPEC's Role in Oil Market
    00:16:19 - Gas Market Outlook
    00:18:54 - Impact of Lower Oil Prices on Gas Market
    00:21:02 - Introduction and LNG Discussion
    00:27:06 - Energy Transition and Decarbonization
    00:28:27 - Investment in Energy Transition
    00:36:15 - Power Business and Nuclear Energy
    00:40:06 - Pickering Energy Partners
    00:41:49 - Opportunities in Traditional Energy
    00:44:44 - Future Opportunities
    00:50:47 - Entrepreneurship Journey

    23 December 2024, 4:00 pm
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    #217: Luminus Capital - Karl Graham

    This episode's guest is Karl Graham, co-founder and principal at Luminus Capital, an investment firm specializing in self-storage and industrial real estate. Karl is also a small business entrepreneur that has founded various start-ups.

    This episode we discuss Karl's journey from a geologist in the oil and gas industry to building a thriving real estate business. We talk about his strategies for identifying value-added opportunities and his data-driven investment approach. 

    Episode flow:  
    - Transitioning from geology to real estate  
    - Self-storage investments 
    - Future Opportunities in Real Estate
    - Operational leverage and market trends
    - SMB Build vs Buy
    - Partnerships and creating long-term value

    Connect with Karl Graham:  
    - Luminus Capital Website: https://luminuscapital.com)  
    - Karl's Twitter: https://twitter.com/Karl_Luminus

    Hope you Enjoy the show!

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:01:52 - Karl's Background and Journey into Real Estate
    00:03:43 - Transition from Oil and Gas to Real Estate
    00:07:24 - Challenges and Opportunities in Starting a Real Estate Business
    00:13:13 - Utilizing Global Talent and Sacrifices in Starting a Business
    00:16:45 - Strategy for Self Storage
    00:20:12 - Capital and Risk in Business
    00:23:14 - Advantages of Real Estate Investment
    00:26:01 - Debt Management in Business
    00:33:13 - Future Plans in Real Estate
    00:35:29 - Exploration and Expansion in Business
    00:40:46 - Initial Business Ventures
    00:43:54 - Challenges with Google Business Profiles
    00:46:43 - Reflections on Business Failure
    00:48:11 - Starting a Business vs Buying a Business
    00:51:31 - Starting a Fencing Business
    00:55:52 - Marketing Strategies for Fencing Business

    26 November 2024, 12:00 pm
  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    #216: Car Market Madness - John Ross

    This episode's guest is John Ross from WatchJRGO— the popular YouTube channel where JR blogs his life and tackles multiple projects like fixing old cars and remodeling his AirBnb. 

    We talk about the car market, the car flipping business, some of his craziest projects, EV trends, Tesla and its brutal pricing changes that have left thousands of people underwater on their car loans. 

    John shares real stories about the highs and the lows of being a full time content creator and where his future passions might take him. 

    I always enjoy talking to creators that have made a business out of their content and John is one of the best out there.

    Hope you enjoy the show!

    John's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@WatchJRGo

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Introduction
    00:02:02 - John's Background
    00:04:53 - The Shift in Skillsets
    00:06:57 - The Popularity of Car Content
    00:07:30 - Going Full Time on YouTube
    00:09:02 - Balancing Different Content
    00:10:01 - The Pressure of Daily Content
    00:12:33 - Growing Up with Tech
    00:13:21 - The Shift in Tech
    00:19:13 - Personal Car Collection
    00:21:00 - Current car market
    00:23:43 - Car Prices
    00:26:49 - Emission Regulations
    00:29:56 - EV Cars
    00:31:37 - Fuel Efficiency
    00:39:01 - EV Brands
    00:43:13 - Tesla's depreciation
    00:47:35 - Managing Airbnb properties
    00:53:04 - Future plans
    01:01:54 - Discussion on Energy and Industrial Controls
    01:02:33 - Conclusion

    4 November 2024, 9:00 pm
  • 59 minutes 14 seconds
    #215: $10 Billion in Transactions: A Masterclass on Building a Brokerage - Chris Atherton

    This episode's guest is Chris Atherton. Chris is the CEO of EnergyNet, a leading online platform for oil and gas asset transactions. The company has brokered over $10 billion in deals since it was founded in 1999. 

    This year EnergyNet has also launched separate marketplaces for real estate, alternative energy, and other real assets under the Efficient Markets platform. 

    In this episode, Chris shares his 25+ years of experience in the energy industry, discusses trends shaping the future of oil and gas, and dives deep into the role of technology in asset acquisition and divestiture. 

    We cover the current oil and gas M&A market and the trends that Chris is seeing in 2024. We then pivot to discuss the rebrand to "Efficient Markets" and the new opportunities the company is chasing. 

    Whether you're an energy professional or run a brokerage business in another industry, this episode gives some incredible insight into what it takes to get deals done at scale. 

    Hope you enjoy the show!

    Efficient Markets: https://www.efficientmarkets.com

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Precap
    00:01:22 - Chris’ Background
    00:01:31 - EnergyNet's Business Model
    00:09:32 - Challenges in Building EnergyNet
    00:14:15 - Impact of Public Market on Valuations
    00:19:27 - Ideal Market Conditions
    00:21:29 - The Role of Relationships and Deal Size
    00:23:12 - The Importance of Experience and Understanding Sellers
    00:26:54 - The Role of Standardization and Technology
    00:27:42 - The Impact of Technology on Targeting Buyers
    00:35:57 - The Launch of Efficient Markets
    00:38:44 - Expanding into Other Resources
    00:41:53 - Comparing Business Models
    00:42:26 - Working with Government Entities
    00:50:52 - Diversification and Growth
    00:52:11 - Unique Deal Stories
    00:56:12 - Networking in the Industry

    14 October 2024, 8:00 pm
  • 1 hour 5 minutes
    #214: The Changing World Order - Doomberg

    This episode we have returning guest Doomberg. Over the years Doomberg has made multiple appearances on the show and his episodes are some of my favorite to record. 

    If you don't already know, Doomberg runs one of the largest paid substack newsletters and puts out some incredible content around energy, markets, business, politics, and the other craziness going on in the world. 

    This episode we talk about how OPEC is losing its influence and the ripple effects that will ensue if the cartel ultimately dissolves. We discuss how ESG has peaked, and how the green movement is on its last leg. 

    The conversation then turns to politics and what's at stake in the upcoming U.S. election. It has become increasingly apparent that "democracy" is threatening to the establishment as they try to cling to their globalist ambitions in the face of the rising popularity of nationalism in western nations. 

    Lastly, we talk the economy, the fed, and how alternative assets like Gold and Bitcoin will play an increasingly important role in a world where governments can't stop printing money. 

    Hope you enjoy the show! 

    Check Doomberg's substack: www.doomberg.com

    Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell for new episodes. 

    Credits for the BYD video: https://www.youtube.com/@Wheelsboy

    Timestamps:
    00:00:00 - Intro
    00:01:12 - Doomberg's Return and Background
    00:01:14 - China's Role in Natural Gas Market
    00:02:15 - OPEC and Changing World Order
    00:03:39 - Impact of OPEC's Strategy on Natural Gas Sector
    00:04:27 - OPEC's Influence and Future
    00:06:07 - OPEC's Past Strategies and Current Situation
    00:11:36 - Natural Gas Displacement and Transportation
    00:14:20 - Impact of Natural Gas on Oil Production
    00:17:00 - Natural Gas in Transportation: Case of China
    00:18:53 - China's Pollution Concerns and Shift to LNG
    00:20:22 - Natural Gas and US Manufacturing
    00:22:06 - Shift in Energy Investment Trends
    00:23:15 - Discussion on ESG and Energy Policies
    00:26:27 - Impact of Energy Policies on Industries
    00:29:53 - Energy Policies and Democracy
    00:31:51 - Current Political Climate
    00:34:27 - Elon Musk's Impact on Free Speech
    00:37:34 - Nationalists vs Globalists Debate
    00:40:54 - Election and Voting Perspectives
    00:42:55 - Discussion on Trump's Strategy
    00:44:59 - The Role of Twitter and Substack
    00:46:42 - The Role of Gold and the Global Economy
    00:49:42 - The Impact of the Upcoming Elections
    00:56:22 - Discussion on Gold as a Reserve Asset
    00:57:25 - Bitcoin and the Financial Institutions

    30 September 2024, 3:00 pm
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