<p>The Dev Interrupted Podcast is the premier podcast made exclusively for software engineering leaders. Hosts Dan Lines & Conor Bronsdon invite expert guests from around the world to explore strategy and day-to-day topics ranging from dev team metrics to accelerating delivery. Join us weekly for new episodes.</p>
Are your AI coding tools actually making your team faster, or are they just creating downstream chaos? This week, Ben Lloyd Pearson and Dan Lines introduce APEX, LinearB’s new engineering leadership framework built explicitly to measure and manage software delivery in the AI era. Moving beyond traditional frameworks like DORA and SPACE, APEX balances AI Leverage, Predictability, Efficiency, and Developer experience to ensure upstream code generation translates into actual business value. Tune in to learn how to break past the illusion of coding speed, prevent AI slop from clogging your review pipelines, and discover which pillar of the APEX framework your team needs to tackle first.
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Are advertisements not-so-secretly infiltrating your code reviews? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben break down the controversy over GitHub Copilot injecting promotional tips into pull requests and unpack the massive Anthropic code leak that exposed Claude Code's hidden features. The hosts also explore Shopify's strategy for cutting AI inference costs by 75x using smaller, self-hosted models. Finally, they discuss the game-changing Pretext rendering library, the cyclical hype of "dead" tech trends, and how agent-wielding "vibe maintainers" are rewriting the rules of open-source software.
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AI agents have officially arrived on an internet that simply wasn't built for them. So how do we build the infrastructure to keep them safe, productive, and contained? This week, Andrew sits down with Matt Boyle, Head of Product, Design and Engineering at Ona (formerly Gitpod), to discuss evolving cloud development environments into secure, enterprise-grade "agent jails." They explore the mechanics of Project Veto’s kernel-level security, the slow death of the traditional IDE, and how the rise of AI is transforming developers into full-stack, T-shaped product owners. Finally, Matt shares his vision for the future of the SDLC, detailing how organizations can safely balance strict compliance with the bleeding edge of autonomous software factories.
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Is OpenAI killing off its viral video generator to pivot toward the enterprise market? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben banter over the demise of Sora and examine Anthropic's new Auto Mode safety controls. The duo then explores a major New York Times piece that proves the conversation about the end of traditional computer programming is officially going mainstream. Finally, they cover Microsoft's attempt to win back frustrated Windows 11 users and break down the POST leadership framework to help you build a more balanced engineering team.
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Over 88% of developers use AI regularly, but AI-assisted pull requests merge at less than half the rate of human-authored code. In this episode, Dan Lines and Ben Lloyd Pearson break down the findings from LinearB's 2026 Engineering Benchmarks Report to reveal how AI is fundamentally reshaping software delivery. They explore the stark behavioral differences between unassisted, AI-assisted, and fully agentic pull requests, highlighting how AI accelerates code generation but exposes massive bottlenecks in the review process. Tune in to learn why organizations must prioritize AI readiness, data quality, and context engineering before they can translate raw AI adoption into actual business impact.
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Are rolling token blackouts and late-night AI coding shifts about to become the new normal for developers? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the shifting economics of AI compute before debating whether the Model Context Protocol (MCP) was fundamentally overhyped. The hosts also dive into "context anchoring" to prevent model compaction during long coding sessions, why optimizing the wrong bottlenecks makes AI an amplifier for bad processes, and the nostalgic resurgence of the decentralized "small web." Finally, they break down the new rules of workplace AI etiquette to help you avoid serving your coworkers "sloppy pasta" disguised as real work.
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Autonomous agents are pushing deployment speeds to the absolute limit, but is our security infrastructure ready for the consequences? Andrew sits down with Chainguard CEO Dan Lorenc to discuss the severe supply chain risks of this new frontier and what it takes to safely transition to an agent-first engineering model. They explore how engineering teams can safely accelerate deployments by turning restrictive guardrails into frictionless "guide rails" for their AI agents. Finally, the conversation unpacks the future of open source, detailing how AI might either spam projects into dormancy or solve the ecosystem's long-standing sustainability crisis by stepping in as automated, full-time maintainers.
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Are we heading toward a bizarre future where your engineering salary is paid in AI compute tokens instead of cash? Andrew and Ben tackle the latest tech industry shakeups, starting with Meta's acquisition of Moltbook and the controversial idea of making inference limits a core employee benefit. They also break down Charlie Guo's harness engineering playbook, the growing pains behind recent AWS AI-driven outages, and the toxic pressure to constantly run dozens of autonomous agents. Finally, they wrap up by sharing their own agentic weekend projects and debating the catastrophic risks of vibe-coding your laptop's file permissions.
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Right now, a lot of engineering leaders are stuck in the same loop: rolling out AI tools only to watch their teams quietly drift back to business as usual. Andrew sits down with James Everingham, former Head of Dev Infra at Meta and current CEO of guild.ai, to discuss how to break this cycle by treating AI not just as an autocomplete tool, but as a "sentient fabric" woven directly into your software development lifecycle. They explore how replacing top-down AI mandates with impossible business challenges—like eliminating code freezes entirely—empowers developers to organically build game-changing tools like conversational onboarding agents. Finally, James breaks down why 2026 is the year of the agent and how his team is building the enterprise infrastructure needed to safely govern, audit, and scale collaborative agent workflows.
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Has the cost of software development officially dropped below the minimum wage? Andrew and Ben examine this economic shift alongside the rapid open-source growth and security implications of the OpenClaw project. They also explore Steve Yegge's concept of a federated wasteland for orchestrators and how the new Perplexity Computer is stepping up to act as a persistent, always-on digital coworker.
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Pausing a product roadmap for an entire month to point 700 engineers at a single goal is a significant structural shift, but it transformed monday.com. Andrew sits down with VP of R&D Sergei Liakhovetsky to uncover how fixing core infrastructure and adopting a cell-based architecture paved the way for platform scale. Sergei details the exact framework his leadership team used during their 30-day pause to launch user solutions while maintaining a strict zero-bureaucracy policy. The conversation also explores the new realities of reliability as platforms transition from being CPU-bound to heavily GPU-bound under the weight of automated agents.
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