Maintenance Phase
Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes
Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.
- 1 hour 8 minutesTim Ferriss’s "The 4-Hour Body" (feat. Peter Shamshiri)
We're joined by Mike's If Books Could Kill co-host to revisit a biohacking diet book for the boys.
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- The 4-Hour Body
- Does Glycemic Index Matter for Weight Loss? An Examination of the Evidence
- New! Improved! Shape Up Your Life!
- The 4-Hour Body: The Real App You Are Working On Is An App Called Yourself
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
16 April 2026, 9:00 am - 1 hour 7 minutesRussell Brand Part 2
What do you do when you've flamed out as a Hollywood actor, a political commentator and a wellness guru? You make a YouTube channel.
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- Russell Brand accused of rape, sexual assaults and abuse
- Exposing Russell Brand
- Russell Brand And The Conspiracy Grift
- Russell Brand on revolution
- Celebrity Capital in the Political Field: Russell Brand’s migration from stand-up comedy to Newsnight
- “Arthur” lawsuit against Brand
- BBC says it received five complaints about presenter
- Woman says star exposed himself to her
- Russell Brand, Seriously
- How the U.S. is sabotaging its best tools to prevent deaths in the opioid epidemic
- Russell Brand And The Conspiracy Grift
- Russell Brand’s fellow travellers should defend their claims in court
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
1 April 2026, 9:00 am - 1 hour 14 minutesRussell Brand Part 1
Tracing the left-to-right political trajectory of the unfunniest man in British comedy.
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- Russell Brand accused of rape, sexual assaults and abuse
- Exposing Russell Brand
- Russell Brand And The Conspiracy Grift
- Russell Brand on revolution
- Celebrity Capital in the Political Field: Russell Brand’s migration from stand-up comedy to Newsnight
- “Arthur” lawsuit against Brand
- BBC says it received five complaints about presenter
- Woman says star exposed himself to her
- Russell Brand, Seriously
- How the U.S. is sabotaging its best tools to prevent deaths in the opioid epidemic
- Russell Brand And The Conspiracy Grift
- Russell Brand’s fellow travellers should defend their claims in court
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
17 March 2026, 9:00 am - 57 minutes 8 secondsThe Diet Crimes of Metabolife
The rags-to-riches tale of how an illegal methamphetamine manufacturer became a legal methamphetamine manufacturer.
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- How the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 Weakened the FDA
- Mad About Metabolife
- Stimulant Propels Diet Empire
- The dangers of the herb ephedra - Harvard Health
- An Historical Review of Steps and Missteps in the Discovery of Anti-Obesity Drugs
- Weight Loss the Herbal Way: No All-Natural Silver Bullet
- Over-the-Counter-Strategy - The Washington Post
- Anxious Pill-Maker Puts ABC Interview on the Web
- A 'Neutral' Comment, a Company's Tough Reaction
- Metabolife Intern., Inc. v. Wornick (S.D. Cal. 1999)
- Ephedra hearings in the US House of Representatives
- Expert Panel Finds Flaws In Diet Pill Safety Study
- Letter Urging a Criminal Investigation of Metabolife - Public Citizen
- Perspective; Regulation of Dietary Drugs Is Long Overdue
- No Limit, for Now, on a Dieting Supplement
- U.S. Bans Dietary Supplement Linked to Number of Deaths
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
12 February 2026, 10:00 am - 1 hour 5 minutesRaw Milk
Once widely banned, raw milk consumption is on the rise and states are repealing their bans. No one’s happier about that than the far right. How did we get here?
NOTE: In the retelling of Pasteur’s early pasteurization, Aubrey misspoke! The culprit wasn’t lactic yeast, it was lactic acid bacteria. Sorry for the slip up!
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- Milk!: A 10,000 Year Food Fracas
- U.S. Consumer survey
- The Effects of Pasteurization on Vitamins
- Lingering Heat over Pasteurized Milk
- How pasteurization improves safety
- Swill-Milk and Infant Mortality
- Alta Dena (Court case 1, Court case 2, Alta Dena's raw milk history)
- A Raw Milk Magnate Has Spent Years Fighting Public Health Agencies
- Should This Milk Be Legal?
- The Amish farmer who ignited outrage over raw milk
- Why Are People Promoting Raw Milk?
- The Quest for Raw Milk
- Some Raw Truths About Raw Milk
- Right Wing Commentators Are Pushing Misinformation
- How Raw Milk Went From Hippie to MAGA
- Here's why raw milk drinkers need to be concerned about bird flu
- Influencers promote raw milk
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
13 November 2025, 10:00 am - 52 minutes 58 secondsThe Food Babe
One blogger bravely pushes back against Starbucks, Subway and basic scientific facts.
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- Taking On the Food Industry, One Blog Post at a Time
- How the ‘Food Babe’ Went From Obama Ally to Trump Crusader
- Activist or Capitalist? How the 'Food Babe' Makes Money
- Latest Food Scare: What Is The 'Yoga Mat' Chemical - And Why Is It In Your Food?
- Almost 500 Foods Contain The 'Yoga Mat' Compound. Should We Care?
- Are You Eating This Ingredient Banned All Over the World?
- The "Food Babe" Blogger is Full of Shit
- Are Microwaves Safe?
- Global Food Security Index 2022
- Differences between EU and US nutrition labels go far beyond ounces and grams
- Is Food Really Better in Europe?
- Vani Hari: How She Grew Her Food Blog Into An Empire
- Food blogger asks Kraft to stop using dye in mac and cheese
- Meet the food blogger influencing RFK Jr.
- Food Babe blogger Vani Hari taking heat over health science
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
25 September 2025, 9:00 am - 1 hour 18 minutesSeed Oils
Why are you, as a man, afraid of sunflowers.
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- The O6-O3 ratio: A critical appraisal
- Seed Oils: Are They Actually Toxic?
- No need to avoid healthy omega-6 fats
- Omega-6 Fatty Acids and Risk for Cardiovascular Disease
- Do Seed Oils Make You Sick?
- Seed oils: Are they healthy or harmful?
- ToxGuide: Hexane
- Dietary linoleic acid intake and blood inflammatory markers
- Effect of dietary alpha-linolenic acid on blood inflammatory markers
- Changes in consumption of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids
- The Skinny on Fats
- Dietary oleic acid drives obesogenic adipogenesis
- How Seed Oils May Be Affecting Your Body Fat and Health
- Stanford nutrition expert breaks down effects of seed oils
- The Newest Bitcoin Diet Trend Is Hating ‘Seed Oils’
- Omega-6 Fatty Acids and Coronary Artery Disease
- The Great Con-ola
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
26 August 2025, 9:00 am - 56 minutes 56 secondsHerbalife
We’re talking about our first diet MLM and IT’S A REAL DOOZY!
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Links!- Herbalife: Weighty Profits and Government Probes
- Herbalife Exec's Death Prompts Bizarre Fallout
- Autopsy on Herbalife founder finds death caused by accidental overdose
- The Uncertain Start of a Remarkable Life
- Nobel Prize Winner Didn't Disclose Herbalife Contract
- Latinos crucial to Herbalife's financial health
- Latino Group Demands Herbalife Probe
- The Big Short War
- The Siege of Herbalife
- After Big Bet, Hedge Fund Pulls the Levers of Power
- Herbalife Will Restructure and Pay $200 Million to Settle FTC Charges
- An inside look at the $200 million FTC settlement
- U.S. says Herbalife to pay $123.1 million to resolve China bribery case
- Herbalife announces new CEO to lead the L.A. nutrition company
Clips!- Mark Hughes' origin story
- Senate committee hearing
- Celebrity endorsement
- Former Herbalife Distributors Speak Out
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
10 July 2025, 9:00 am - 1 hour 11 minutesUltra-Processed Foods
Everyone agrees that processed foods are bad for you. When it comes to defining what they actually are, however, there is considerably less agreement.
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- Nutrition and health. The issue is not food, nor nutrients, so much as processing
- Ultra-Processed Foods: Definitions and Policy Issues
- Examining the Nova Food Classification System and the Healthfulness of Ultra-Processed Foods
- A new classification of foods based on the extent and purpose of their processing
- Ultra-processed diets cause excess calorie intake and weight gain
- Why Is the American Diet So Deadly?
- Ultra-processed foods and mortality
- Association of ultra-processed food intake with risk of inflammatory bowel disease: prospective cohort study
- Academic and doctor Chris van Tulleken: ‘Ultra-processed products are food that lies to us’
- Food addiction: a valid concept?
- The study of food addiction using animal models of binge eating
- Obesity and the brain: how convincing is the addiction model?
- Ultra-processed foods and cardiovascular disease: analysis of three large US prospective cohorts
- Sugar addiction: the state of the science
- The Plastic Chemicals Hiding in Your Food
- Premature Mortality Attributable to Ultraprocessed Food Consumption in 8 Countries
- Ultra-processed food intake and animal-based food intake
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
3 June 2025, 9:00 am - 53 minutes 16 secondsBONUS: MAHA's First 90 Days
From our Patreon feed, we're catching up with RFK Jr. and his cadre of "Make America Healthy Again" influencers.
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Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
1 May 2025, 9:00 am - 53 minutes 40 secondsThe Bulletproof Diet
Meet the tech bro on a noble quest to double his lifespan, improve his productivity and irritate his waitress.
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- Mycotoxins Myth: The Truth About Mold in Coffee
- Guidance for Industry: Action Levels for Poisonous or Deleterious Substances in Human Food and Animal Feed
- You, Only Better
- FTC letter to Dave Asprey
- Alternative medicine fans see RFK Jr. as a hero. The field’s skeptics worry.
- The Bulletproof Diet is everything wrong with eating in America
- Bulletproof Coffee: Debunking the Hot Buttered Hype
- Buttered Coffee Could Make You Invincible. And This Man Very Rich
Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
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