Tiffany Yeh, MD is the CEO and Co-Founder of Eztia Materials, a climate-tech venture developing energy-efficient cooling materials to protect people from extreme heat. With a mission to advance hard tech solutions at the climate-health nexus, Tiffany draws on her unique background as a physician, engineer, and public health advocate to build technologies that improve global health in a warming world.

(01:13) - Dr. Ye’s Background & Inspiration
(01:52) - The Heat Challenge
(05:20) - Singapore and the Power of Cooling
(06:32) - Why Construction Has Been Slow to Adapt
(07:22) - The Human Factor
(08:14) - HydroVolt Technology
(09:29) - Business Model, Distribution & Competition
(11:19) - Worker Comfort
(15:32) - Hidden Productivity Crisis Brewing
(18:18) - Feature: Blueprint: The Future of Real Estate 2026 in Vegas on Sep. 22-24
(19:21) - The Secret Sauce Behind HydroVolt
(20:31) - Prototyping & Real-World Applications
(21:32) - Measuring Impact & ROI
(23:34) - Pitching to VCs & Investors
(25:31) - Product Roadmap
(29:08) - Collaboration Superpower: Lionel Messi

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Frank Rohde is the Founder and CEO of Ownify, a fractional homeownership platform pairing institutional and impact investors with qualified first-time buyers to make homeownership more accessible. With a 20+ year career at the intersection of finance, credit analytics, and technology, Frank previously led Nomis Solutions, scaling it into a global mortgage pricing engine used by top banks. Earlier roles include leadership at FICO, founding the early online insurer eCoverage, and launching AI models before it was trendy. Born in Germany, Frank is a former national whitewater kayaking champion, marathon runner on all seven continents, and lifelong reader—now channeling that energy into building a path between renting and owning, one Brick by Brick™.

(01:51) - Why Homeownership Is Broken
(04:10) - Ownify model
(06:03) - How Fractional Ownership Works
(13:08) - Ownify Benefits for First-time Homebuyers
(16:11) - Homeowner & Investor Alignment
(23:21) - Feature: CREtech New York Oct. 20–21
(25:38) - All-Cash Offers Explained
(32:40) - Underwriting & Risk Management
(35:47) - Investor Returns
(38:48) - Market Expansion
(41:37) - Policy & Regulatory Headwinds
(44:04) - Collaboration Superpower: Elon Musk

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Owen Barrett is the CEO and Co-Founder of Shine, a cleantech company helping multifamily property owners maximize NOI through onsite solar. With over 20 years of experience in sustainability and clean energy, Owen previously managed $60M in projects and launched a successful energy venture for schools before founding Shine to solve the split incentive problem in solar. Shine’s turnkey solution targets tenant electricity—95% of a building’s usage—enabling owners to generate new income while cutting tenant costs. With 36,500+ panels installed and a recent $5M seed round, Owen is leading Shine’s national expansion to transform how real estate decarbonizes.

(01:31) - Owen’s Journey from Finance to Clean Energy
(04:27) - Multifamily Solar Challenges & Solution
(09:43) - Solar NOI for Multifamily
(15:16) - Installation and Maintenance
(17:51) - Feature: CREtech New York 2026 on Oct. 20-21
(19:10) - Overcoming Industry Misconceptions
(20:46) - Convincing Asset Managers
(23:15) - Shine’s New Solar Analysis Tool
(25:31) - Targeting New and Existing Buildings
(26:32) - Fundraising and Growth Strategies
(27:59) - Building a Remote Team
(29:43) - Collaboration Superpower: Paul Sween (Dominium Board Chairman)

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Maor Greenberg is the co-founder and CEO of Spacial, the AI-powered engineering partner delivering coordinated, permit-ready structural, MEP, and energy plans for residential construction. With over 19 years of experience as a builder and founder, Maor previously scaled Greenberg Construction, Greenberg Design Gallery, and VRchitects, earning Inc. 5000 honors and multiple design awards. At Spacial, he combines deep field experience with cutting-edge AI to reduce permitting friction and accelerate housing delivery. His work has been featured in Forbes, TechCrunch, and CTech, and he actively invests in forward-thinking AEC and AI startups.

(01:33) - Maor's Journey to the US
(02:54) - Challenges in Architectural & Engineering Processes
(04:05) - The Pain Points Leading to Spatial AI
(05:31) - Permitting Bottlenecks in Construction
(06:05) - Design & Construction Integration Issues
(08:24) - AI’s Role in Streamlining Processes
(09:29) - Success Stories & Milestones
(15:07) - Shoutout: AmTrustRE's $217M Office Acquisition of 260 Madison
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(17:02) - Standardized Pricing & Adoption
(18:55) - Speed vs. Quality in Engineering
(24:53) - Modular Housing
(28:25) - Future Vision for Spatial AI
(29:09) - Collaboration Superpower: Elon Musk

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Tzvika Graiver is the co-founder and CEO of RoboChute, the company reinventing how buildings manage trash chutes using smart, autonomous robots. With a background in law and a deep commitment to environmental innovation, Tzvika brings a unique blend of strategic insight and operational grit to the built world. RoboChute’s system proactively cleans, monitors, and extends the life of garbage chutes—already delivering healthier air and lower costs in buildings across Israel. Tzvika is also the longtime Chairman of KeepOlim, a nonprofit supporting new immigrants in Israel through business development and community advocacy. Whether launching robotics or empowering new communities, he’s focused on building smarter, more inclusive buildings and cities from the inside out.

(01:35) The Problem with Garbage Chutes
(05:46) Cost & Maintenance of Garbage Chutes
(07:49) VC on hardware vs. software
(12:06) Challenges & Opportunities in Robotics
(21:16) Future of Real Estate & Robotics
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(24:51) Robots in Real Estate Operations
(25:16) The Importance of Building Automation
(27:06) Innovative Solutions for Waste Management
(28:23) The Role of AI in Building Management
(32:03) The Rise & Fall of Roomba / iRobot & Amazon's Blocked Acquisition
(35:14) Competition with Chinese Manufacturers
(42:22) Collaboration Superpower: Hannah Szenes (Wiki) & Lucius Tarquinius Priscus (Wiki)

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Eliza Lochner is a seasoned marketing leader with experience spanning Fortune 500 companies and high-growth startups. She leads global marketing for Airbnb’s real estate development partnerships and new supply initiatives, including the Airbnb Friendly Apartments program, which helps renters earn supplemental income while giving property owners transparency, controls, and new revenue opportunities. Passionate about building human connections that fuel business growth, Eliza focuses on partnerships at the intersection of housing affordability, flexibility, and real estate innovation.

(01:30) - Airbnb-friendly Apartments
(02:55) - Addressing Housing Affordability
(04:34) - Owner & Property Manager Controls
(06:28) - Program Success & Expansion
(09:25) - Impact on Resident & Investor Attraction
(14:24) - Revenue Sharing & Incentives
(18:56) - Building Trust with Property Managers
(21:14) - Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass
(22:05) - Channel Partners & Distribution Strategy
(24:00) - Boutique Hotels Partnerships
(25:45) - Major Events: World Cup and Olympics
(29:43) - Future of Airbnb Friendly Buildings Program
(31:26) - Collaboration Superpower: Michelle Obama & Eumaeus (Wiki)

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Kenneth Hochhauser is Partner and Head of Data and Analytics at RTL. His background includes roles as a retail executive at Macy’s and GNC and as a small business and economic development officer for the City of New York. He has advised both tenants and landlords on site selection, trade area analysis, and retail strategy, including introducing Chipotle to the New York metro market and representing Duxiana nationally. His past assignments span major projects such as Brookfield Place, Trump Place, and Columbia University’s Manhattanville and Morningside campuses.

(02:39) - Ken's Journey

(04:59) - Retail Market Trends

(06:05) - Retail vs. Office Innovation

(07:53) - Shopping Trends and Retail Insights

(08:31) - Retail Challenges in Manhattan

(10:05) - Retail's Historical Context and Future

(12:14) - Tenant Preferences

(17:33) - Experiential Retail & Unique Locations

(20:56) - Non-Traditional Retail
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(28:11) - Retail Tech & Data Utilization

(34:29) - Location Indicators & Retail Expansion

(38:29) - Collaboration Superpower: an economist
(40:08) - US Gov. Shutdown Impact

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Kevin Shtofman is the Global Head of Alliances and Corporate Development at Cherre, a real estate data platform powering over $3.3 trillion in AUM. With 20+ years of experience across real estate, finance, and consulting, Kevin leads global initiatives to integrate and contextualize data from systems, third parties, and JV partners, helping investors, operators, and asset managers make smarter decisions. At Cherre, he also oversees strategic partnerships, global expansion, and the innovation roadmap. Prior to joining Cherre, Kevin held leadership roles across the industry, including Chief Operating Officer at NavigatorCRE, and Global Real Estate Technology Strategy Lead at Deloitte, where he advised clients on emerging technologies like AI, automation, and blockchain. A recognized voice in real estate innovation, Kevin brings two decades of experience bridging data, operations, and technology across global real estate markets. Outside of work, Kevin is a golf enthusiast, occasional Ironman, and proud father of three daughters.

(02:05) - Kevin's Background
(05:19) - Challenges in Real Estate Data Management
(06:52) - Cherre’s Approach to Data Integration
(13:48) - Evolution of Cherre’s Platform
(21:41) - Client Success Stories
(24:58) - Future of Real Estate and AI
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(29:58) - Introducing Cherre AI Agent Marketplace
(33:58) - AI Use Cases
(40:06) - The Future of Real Estate Data
(42:29) - Affordable Housing and Investment
(47:37) - Collaboration Superpower: William Levitt (Wiki) & Larry Brown (Wiki)

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Sharon Ayalon is the co-founder and CEO of UrbanMix, a next-gen platform using AI and 3D to streamline real estate operations. An architect by training, she previously taught at Columbia GSAPP and led advanced housing simulations at Cornell Tech. Sharon pioneered Roosevelt Island’s Digital Twin and XR transit experience. Her Ph.D. was awarded the President of Israel’s Grant for Scientific Excellence. This is episode was recorded live at Blueprint Vegas 2025. Sharon has been helping shape Gowanus Wharf, a groundbreaking Brooklyn development led by Charney Companies turning a former Superfund site into over 1,000 apartments, parks, and public waterfront. It's one of the most ambitious examples of how environmental cleanup, zoning reform, and innovative tools can unlock transformative urban development.

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This week, we're introducing Tangent listeners to another podcast in the commercial real estate ecosystem: In The Loop from LoopNet.

How can workplaces endure ecologically, financially, and socially?

In this episode of In the Loop, Jordan Goldstein, co-CEO of Gensler, explores the future of sustainable and resilient office design. From global design trends and innovative materials to the role of AI in commercial real estate, Jordan shares how the industry is rethinking sustainability. You’ll learn why repositioning existing buildings matters, how policy and incentives drive real change, and what it takes to create workplaces built for tomorrow.

In the Loop is LoopNet’s commercial real estate podcast highlighting the people, ideas, and innovations shaping the future of work. For bonus video content, check out our YouTube channel.

(00:00) - Welcome to the show and introduction of In The Loop podcast drop
(01:01) - Phil Hazelhurst welcomes guest Jordan Goldstein, Co-CEO of Gensler
(03:34) - How sustainability, resiliency, and “flight to quality” are reshaping office real estate
(06:57) - The rise of AI in architecture & how Gensler uses tech to design smarter, lower-carbon spaces
(13:38) - Materials makeover: mass timber, low-carbon concrete, and the future of building systems
(19:37) - Global perspectives and the power of repositioning old buildings instead of starting new
(26:24) - Gensler’s own electrified office and how the firm lives its sustainability mission in practice
(37:42) - Final thoughts: Why design is an act of optimism and where sustainable real estate goes next
(40:19) - Edward recaps conversation

Links & references: 

• View spaces designed by Gensler 

• Ready to find your next sustainable commercial space? Start your search

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• Learn more about Commercial Real Estate"

Ryan Sawchuk is the VP of Product at Crexi, where he leads cross-functional teams to build advanced, data-rich tools aimed at transforming the commercial real estate workflow. With more than 15 years in product leadership, Ryan specializes in crafting AI-enabled, scalable solutions that boost transaction velocity, improve user experience, and integrate seamlessly into CRE operations. Prior to Crexi, Ryan held senior product roles at Indeed, Procore, and LinkedIn, shaping core features and driving growth in high-scale tech environments. He earned his education from Princeton University, which laid the foundation for his data-driven, user-first product philosophy. At Crexi, Ryan’s vision is to bridge the gap between real estate professionals and cutting-edge technology, making complex CRE data more accessible, actionable, and efficient. This is episode was recorded live at Blueprint Vegas 2025.

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