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Hard Fork

Hard Fork

The New York Times

“Hard Fork” is a show about the future that’s already here. Each week, journalists Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore and make sense of the latest in the rapidly changing world of tech. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

  • 1 hour 5 minutes
    The White House’s Secret A.I. Rules + The State of Model Alignment With METR’s Chris Painter + The Final Hot Mess Express

    This week, the White House announced a new framework for regulating A.I. models, but it isn’t letting the public read it. We break down what we know about the rules and what the implications are for the industry and A.I. safety as a whole. 

    Then, yet another report details new incidents in which A.I. agents have gone rogue. Chris Painter, the president of METR, an independent A.I. evaluation organization, joins to discuss how we get these models under control. 

    And finally, we're hopping on the Hot Mess Express for the very last time. We’ll rate the craziest tech headlines from the week, including Google’s announcement that Demis Hassabis is stepping into a new role. 

     

    Guests:

    • Chris Painter, president of METR. 

     

    Additional Reading:

    • White House Readies A.I. Framework to Review Security Risks
    • Inside Trump's AI framework
    • How Do You Measure an A.I. Boom?
    • METR’s Frontier Risk Report
    • Google Shakes Up A.I. Leadership
    • Did an A.I. Music App Just Snitch on the Song of the Summer?
    • This AI Assistant Wants to Make Up for Your Boyfriend’s Incompetence
    • Google Earth’s AI deepfake tool only lasted one day
    • US government map of Africa mislabels every country at global conference
    • Contractor who built Colossus and Colossus II says Elon Musk owes him colossal amount of money

     

    We want to hear from you. Email us at [email protected]. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok.

     

    Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.


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    7 August 2026, 11:00 am
  • 1 hour 6 minutes
    Open Model Wars + Claire Stapleton's Dishy Google Memoir + Substack's Slop Fight

    This week, we break down the arguments about open-weight models unfolding in Silicon Valley right now. Nvidia released an open letter signed by over 230 companies opposing “premature restrictions,” but will the Trump administration listen?

    Then, we’re joined by the author Claire Stapleton to discuss her new book about what she learned while leading employee activism inside Google.

    And finally, can Substack stop the slop? We’ll talk about the platform’s new A.I. detector.

    Guests:

    • Claire Stapleton, author of “Don’t Be Evil: Bad Bosses, Fake Promises, and My Escape from Big Tech.”

    Additional Reading:

    • Nvidia Forms Alliance to Back Open-Source A.I. Amid Debate Over Safety
    • What Is Open-Weights A.I.?
    • Mark Zuckerberg Blasts Centralization of A.I. Power 
    • The Voice of Google
    • Against Claudefishing

    We want to hear from you. Email us at [email protected]. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok.

    Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.


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    31 July 2026, 11:00 am
  • 1 minute 24 seconds
    What’s a Hard Fork?

    Hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore stories from the wild frontier of tech.

    What’s real? What’s hype? “Hard Fork” is here to help you make sense of it. Tune in every Friday.

    Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.


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    27 September 2022, 2:00 pm
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