Ranjan Roy from Margins is back for our weekly discussion of the latest tech news. We cover: 1) Software is rebounding, is the Saaspocolyse over? 2) Salesforce delivers solid earnings and jumps 22% 3) Why was Dario sitting with Benioff? 4) All software stocks are rising 5) Disruption could still happen, but on a longer timeline 6) Meta's bungled AI layoff strategy 7) How much of AI failures today are cultural? 8) Meta pays billions in landmark addiction settlement 9) South Korean stock market volatility 10) The clash of AI belief and reality

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Campbell Brown is the CEO of Forum AI. Brown joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss how AI models should handle sensitive information involving news, politics, medicine, and mental health. Tune in to hear how experts can evaluate chatbots for accuracy, bias, source quality, and context, and why independent standards will be essential as people increasingly trust AI’s answers. We also cover AI’s threat to the journalism business, the limits of expert consensus, chatbot sycophancy, election misinformation, and the rise of AI companions. Hit play for a nuanced conversation about who should decide what AI tells us when the stakes are highest.

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Ranjan Roy from Margins is back for our weekly discussion of the latest tech news. We cover: 1) Big Tech is spending trillions more than it tells us on AI infrastructure 2) The mechanisms of the off-balance-sheet AI buildout 3) What would happen if these projects were on the balance sheet? 4) Can Wall St. actually not figure this out? 5) Will the tech giants pay the money back? 6) Is a soft landing in AI possible at this point if things go poorly? 7) Anthropic's revenue numbers are soaring 8) OpenAI, meanwhile, is in more tumult 9) Why OpenAI is dealing with so many executive departures 10) Startups vs. established companies, and what are the AI labs exactly? 11) Why travel is a good eval for AI

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Nick Bostrom is an AI philosopher and the author of Superintelligence and Deep Utopia. Bostrom joins Big Technology to discuss whether the rise of autonomous AI agents is making the technology’s existential risks more concrete. Tune in to hear his assessment of the alignment problem, recursive self-improvement, and humanity’s chances of steering superintelligence toward a positive outcome. We also cover whether we have reached AGI, the case for a precisely timed AI pause, biological threats, AI consciousness, and the moral status of digital minds. Hit play for a clear-eyed conversation about AI’s greatest dangers and its potential to radically improve human life.

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Johan Hari is a New York Times bestselling author and has a new book, Magic Pill, about his experience with weight loss drugs. Hari joins Big Technology to discuss the impact of Ozempic on our relationship with food and the economy. Tune in to hear how these medications work, their benefits, and their potential risks. We also cover the science behind these drugs, economic implications, and ethical considerations. Hit play for an in-depth conversation on the future of weight loss drugs and their broader societal effects

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Paul Kedrosky is an investor, analyst, and writer who studies technology, markets, and the forces shaping the global economy. Kedrosky joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss why he believes the historic surge in AI infrastructure spending has created a bubble that could soon unravel. Tune in to hear why rapidly falling token prices, constant hardware upgrades, and increasingly debt-funded data centers may make it extraordinarily difficult for investors to earn adequate returns. We also cover whether OpenAI and Anthropic can move up the software stack, what might cause the investment cycle to collapse, China’s competing approach, and what AI could look like after the bubble bursts. Hit play for a clear-eyed debate about whether transformative technology can still produce a disastrous investment cycle.

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M.G. Siegler from Spyglass is back for our Montly discussion of the latest tech news. We cover: 1) Demis Hassabis steps down as DeepMind CEO (Alex solo) 2) Apple's memory crunch 3) Should Apple have known better? 4) Will iPhone prices go up? 5) How much can Apple raise prices without losing sales 6) Does that eventually hurt its services business? 7) Microsoft is spending less on AI... but there's an interesting wrinkle 8) How much cloud growth is driven by OpenAI and Anthropic? 9) The divisions within Google's AI division 10) Can Google get it together?

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David Cahn is a partner at Sequoia Capital. Cahn joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss how much revenue the AI industry must generate to pay back its massive infrastructure investments and why the pursuit of AGI is driving companies to keep spending. Tune in to hear his assessment of the strategies guiding OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, Meta, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple, Nvidia, and SpaceX. We also cover the risk of an investment-timeline mismatch, the value of AI talent and proprietary chips, and whether building artificial intelligence could change religion and spirituality. Hit play for a cool-headed examination of the enormous financial and strategic bets shaping the future of AI.

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Reed Albergotti from Semafor is back for our weekly discussion of the latest tech news. We cover: 1) Why Leopold Aschenbrenner’s Situational Awareness Hedge Fund 2) Leopold's connections to effective altriusm and how they played into the picture 3) Does EA lead to unacceptable risk taking? 4) What Leopold actually traded 5) What's left of Situational Awareness 6) OpenAI cuts prices as much as 80% 7) Does an AI price war drive everything to zero? 8) Nvidia invests $5 billion in Ilya Sutskever's SSI 8) Microsoft crushes earnings and has the biggest market cap gain ever 9) Amazon crushes earnings too 10) Google rebounds 11) Apple's memory fears and long term risks

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Grace Shao is the author of AI Proem. Shao joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss how Chinese AI labs have caught their American rivals despite operating with less advanced computing infrastructure. Tune in to hear how talent, specialization, open-source collaboration, and fierce competition helped models like Kimi K3 approach the U.S. frontier, and what that means for OpenAI, Anthropic, and the business of selling intelligence. We also cover model distillation, China’s compute constraints, the growing importance of AI products, why top researchers are returning to China, and the country’s emerging robotics advantage. Hit play for a clear-eyed look at whether the United States can preserve its AI lead.

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Ranjan Roy from Margins is back for our weekly discussion of the latest tech news. We cover: 1) Could trouble for AI stocks lead to a recession or worse? 2) How the wealth effect might slow consumer spending if AI causes a stock market pullback 3) One scenario that might lead to a collapse 4) Google stock falls on spending concerns 5) Could the switch flip very quickly on big tech capex 6) Subprime data center crisis 7) How much does the data center buildout resemble the financial crisis? 8) What type of revenue is needed to prevent a collapse 9) SpaceX stock tanks 10) Will SpaceX acquire Tesla? 11) Will SpaceX acquire OpenAI?

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