- 1 hour 25 minutes[Bonus] W. Kamau Bell interviews Prentis about What it Takes to Heal
In this bonus episode, the seats are turned as W. Kamau Bell interviews Prentis about their book What it Takes to Heal.
These two dig into the complexities of being a middle child, why healing is often dismissed as "soft" or seen as an individualistic pursuit, and make the case that real healing is rooted in community. They also talk candidly about shame versus guilt, actual accountability, and how belonging has to remain intact for real transformation to happen.
This conversation was recorded in July 2024 at the California Institute of Integral Studies - you can watch the full book tour on our Youtube Channel.
Check out Prentis’ book: What It Takes to Heal: How Transforming Ourselves Can Change the World
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
12 August 2026, 9:00 am - 1 hour 25 minutes[Bonus] Prentis in conversation with adrienne maree brown Live from Brooklyn - What It Takes to Heal Book Tour
This bonus episode is a throw-back to the launch of Prentis’ What it Takes to Heal book tour. This summer marks the two year anniversary of the book’s release and we wanted to share the intimate conversations that happened across the country while Prentis was on tour.
This is a live recording from Brooklyn, where Prentis sits down with their friend adrienne maree brown. The two discuss what it means to write honestly about trauma, why boundaries are really about relationships rather than distance, and how movements for justice can source vision instead of just wounds.
You can watch the full book tour on our Youtube Channel.
Check out Prentis’ book: What It Takes to Heal: How Transforming Ourselves Can Change the World
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
5 August 2026, 9:00 am - 57 minutes 59 secondsQuestion Your Answers with Pastor Kristian A. Smith
This week, we’re diving into faith and doctrine and how it shapes our worldview. Pastor Kristian A. Smith – public theologian, Spiritual Humanist, and digital pastor of The Faith Community Virtual – is here to share about his journey of deconstructing his theology and what can be fruitful and reorganizing when we have the courage and community to ask the big deep questions about faith.
- Follow Kristian on Instagram
- Check out the Faith Community Virtual
- Read Kristian’s book: Question Your Answers: A Deconstruction Survival Guide
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
29 July 2026, 9:00 am - 58 minutes 31 secondsThe Wild Edges of Sorrow with Francis Weller
Prentis is joined by Francis Weller - writer, therapist and soul activist. He wrote the Wild Edge of Sorrow and so eloquently shares about the collective responsibility of grief. Prentis and Francis talk about the hero's myth, the emptiness of whiteness and how grief rituals and communal ceremonies help reconnect us to the deep echo chamber of the soul.
- Check out Francis’ book the Wild Edges of Sorrow
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
22 July 2026, 10:00 am - 54 minutes 32 secondsAll That Mattered with Megan Falley
Poet and writer Megan Falley joined Prentis to share about the life of her late partner Andrea Gibson, and generously offered her learnings on how we can live our lives as richly and fully in the time given.
- Watch “Come See Me in the Good Light” on Apple
- Follow Megan on Substack: Things That Don't Suck
- Check our her book Drive Here and Devastate Me
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
15 July 2026, 9:00 am - 30 minutes 49 secondsMini Episode: An Outdated Model of Leadership
This week, Prentis shares their assessment that the leadership model in our culture feels outdated. They share the concept of two leadership qualities that we could begin to possess on the individual or collective level -- will and surrender. And ask the questions-- How do we start to practice fluidity along the continuum of will and surrender to embody new ways of being leaders? And where can we start to look for leadership in odd and unexpected places?
The quote Prentis mentions in the episode is by Simon Sinek:
“Leaders are the ones who have the courage to go first, to put themselves at personal risk to open a path for others to follow.”
If you’d like to come play and explore this theme more, join us over on Patreon.
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
8 July 2026, 9:00 am - 50 minutes 2 secondsCourage Amidst Collapse with Norma Wong
Teacher, author and Zen Master, Norma Wong, is here to talk about her new book, Who we are becoming matters: the courage wisdom and aloha we need in the time of collapse.
Norma helps us see further than we can see on our own and asks the question, who do we need to become to meet that horizon?
- Follow Norma
- Check out her book: Who We Are Becoming Matters: The Courage, Wisdom, and Aloha We Need in a Timeplace of Collapse
- Listen to her podcast The Horizon Story with Norma Wong
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
1 July 2026, 9:00 am - 44 minutes 34 secondsFierce Vulnerability with Kazu Haga
Prentis is joined by their friend, author and activist Kazu Haga, to explore his new book Fierce Vulnerability. Kazu asks us to consider a new type of courage, and together they converse about the value of deep interdependence, collective trauma, and how the “us vs. them” binary worldview is at the heart of what is destroying our relationships and our planet.
- Follow Kazu on Instagram
- Check out his book: Fierce Vulnerability: Healing Trauma Emerging through Collapse
If you want to hear more from Kazu, revisit Prentis’ conversation with him about Navigating Conflict
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
24 June 2026, 9:00 am - 31 minutes 5 secondsMini-Episode - Grief is a Teacher
Prentis has returned to the pod after a short bereavement leave from the passing of their father. They are sharing how grief and time are pairing up to teach them how to bring more fluidity and honesty to their presence to allow more to be here now.
They are also sharing a sweet story from their drag king past.
If you’re enjoying this season, please support the podcast over on Patreon.
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
17 June 2026, 10:00 am - 45 minutes 22 seconds[Revisit] Survival Is A Promise with Alexis Pauline Gumbs
This episode originally aired in August 2024.
We gather to honor the luminous legacy of Audre Lorde through the lens of Alexis Pauline Gumbs' radiant new book, Survival Is a Promise. Alexis joins us to unveil the journey of crafting Audre's biography, a tribute to the vibrant pulse and power of Audre’s words and practice. Together, we revel in the profound lessons Audre imparted on us about survival, courage, and love.
Alexis’ new book is available now, Survival Is a Promise: The Eternal Life of Audre Lorde, and you can follow her work here @alexispauline
Read the transcript for this conversation here
You can learn more about Prentis’ work below
- Prentis' new book What It Takes to Heal is available now
- Follow @prentishemphill on Instagram to see show clips
- Become a Patreon Subscriber to support the podcast and gain access to the full unedited conversations and visual episodes
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
Research Assistant: Bhavana Nancherla
Original Music: MayyaddaThe Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
10 June 2026, 9:00 am - 51 minutes 51 seconds[Revisit] Embodying Existence with Kai Cheng Thom
This episode was originally aired on July 1st 2024.
Kai Cheng Thom - MSW, Qualified Mediator, Somatic Sex Educator, performance artist, community healer, award-winning writer, and author of Falling Back in Love with Being Human joins us for this episode. A consummate dreamer and believer in revolutionary potential, Kai brings radical love to her work and this conversation. Join us while Kai and Prentis geek out about exciting and dangerous things like monster-making, harm and revenge, + queerness and love.
Read the full transcript of this conversation here.
- Follow @prentishemphill on Instagram to see show clips
- Become a Patreon Subscriber to support the podcast and gain access to the full unedited conversations and visual episodes
Follow Kai on IG @kaichengthom and support the projects they mentioned in this episode:
The Becoming the People Podcast Team:
- Producers: Prentis Hemphill & devon de Leña
- Sound Engineer and Editing: Michael Maine
- Original Music: Mayyadda
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