Deeply researched interviews
I’m thrilled to launch a new trilogy of double episodes: a lecture series by Professor Sarah Paine of the Naval War College, each followed by a deep Q&A.
In this first episode, Prof Paine talks about key decisions by Khrushchev, Mao, Nehru, Bhutto, & Lyndon Johnson that shaped the whole dynamic of South Asia today. This is followed by a Q&A.
Come for the spy bases, shoestring nukes, and insight about how great power politics impacts every region.
Huge thanks to Substack for hosting this!
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Timestamps
(00:00) - Intro
(02:11) - Mao at war, 1949-51
(05:40) - Pactomania and Sino-Soviet conflicts
(14:42) - The Sino-Indian War
(20:00) - Soviet peace in India-Pakistan
(22:00) - US Aid and Alliances
(26:14) - The difference with WWII
(30:09) - The geopolitical map in 1904
(35:10) - The US alienates Indira Gandhi
(42:58) - Instruments of US power
(53:41) - Carrier battle groups
(1:02:41) - Q&A begins
(1:04:31) - The appeal of the USSR
(1:09:36) - The last communist premier
(1:15:42) - India and China's lost opportunity
(1:58:04) - Bismark's cunning
(2:03:05) - Training US officers
(2:07:03) - Cruelty in Russian history
I interviewed Tyler Cowen at the Progress Conference 2024. As always, I had a blast. This is my fourth interview with him – and yet I’m always hearing new stuff.
We talked about why he thinks AI won't drive explosive economic growth, the real bottlenecks on world progress, him now writing for AIs instead of humans, and the difficult relationship between being cultured and fostering growth – among many other things in the full episode.
Thanks to the Roots of Progress Institute (with special thanks to Jason Crawford and Heike Larson) for such a wonderful conference, and to FreeThink for the videography.
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Timestamps
(00:00:00) Economic Growth and AI
(00:14:57) Founder Mode and increasing variance
(00:29:31) Effective Altruism and Progress Studies
(00:33:05) What AI changes for Tyler
(00:44:57) The slow diffusion of innovation
(00:49:53) Stalin's library
(00:52:19) DC vs SF vs EU
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Adam Brown is a founder and lead of BlueShift with is cracking maths and reasoning at Google DeepMind and a theoretical physicist at Stanford.
We discuss: destroying the light cone with vacuum decay, holographic principle, mining black holes, & what it would take to train LLMs that can make Einstein level conceptual breakthroughs.
Stupefying, entertaining, & terrifying.
Enjoy!
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Timestamps
(00:00:00) - Changing the laws of physics
(00:26:05) - Why is our universe the way it is
(00:37:30) - Making Einstein level AGI
(01:00:31) - Physics stagnation and particle colliders
(01:11:10) - Hitchhiking
(01:29:00) - Nagasaki
(01:36:19) - Adam’s career
(01:43:25) - Mining black holes
(01:59:42) - The holographic principle
(02:23:25) - Philosophy of infinities
(02:31:42) - Engineering constraints for future civilizations
Gwern is a pseudonymous researcher and writer. He was one of the first people to see LLM scaling coming. If you've read his blog, you know he's one of the most interesting polymathic thinkers alive.
In order to protect Gwern's anonymity, I proposed interviewing him in person, and having my friend Chris Painter voice over his words after. This amused him enough that he agreed.
After the episode, I convinced Gwern to create a donation page where people can help sustain what he's up to. Please go here to contribute.
Read the full transcript here.
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Timestamps
00:00:00 - Anonymity
00:01:09 - Automating Steve Jobs
00:04:38 - Isaac Newton's theory of progress
00:06:36 - Grand theory of intelligence
00:10:39 - Seeing scaling early
00:21:04 - AGI Timelines
00:22:54 - What to do in remaining 3 years until AGI
00:26:29 - Influencing the shoggoth with writing
00:30:50 - Human vs artificial intelligence
00:33:52 - Rabbit holes
00:38:48 - Hearing impairment
00:43:00 - Wikipedia editing
00:47:43 - Gwern.net
00:50:20 - Counterfactual careers
00:54:30 - Borges & literature
01:01:32 - Gwern's intelligence and process
01:11:03 - A day in the life of Gwern
01:19:16 - Gwern's finances
01:25:05 - The diversity of AI minds
01:27:24 - GLP drugs and obesity
01:31:08 - Drug experimentation
01:33:40 - Parasocial relationships
01:35:23 - Open rabbit holes
A bonanza on the semiconductor industry and hardware scaling to AGI by the end of the decade.
Dylan Patel runs Semianalysis, the leading publication and research firm on AI hardware. Jon Y runs Asianometry, the world’s best YouTube channel on semiconductors and business history.
* What Xi would do if he became scaling pilled
* $ 1T+ in datacenter buildout by end of decade
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Timestamps
00:08:25 – How semiconductors get better
00:11:16 – China can centralize compute
00:18:50 – Export controls & sanctions
00:32:51 – Huawei's intense culture
00:38:51 – Why the semiconductor industry is so stratified
00:40:58 – N2 should not exist
00:45:53 – Taiwan invasion hypothetical
00:49:21 – Mind-boggling complexity of semiconductors
00:59:13 – Chip architecture design
01:04:36 – Architectures lead to different AI models? China vs. US
01:10:12 – Being head of compute at an AI lab
01:16:24 – Scaling costs and power demand
01:37:05 – Are we financing an AI bubble?
01:50:20 – Starting Asianometry and SemiAnalysis
02:06:10 – Opportunities in the semiconductor stack
Unless you understand the history of oil, you cannot understand the rise of America, WW1, WW2, secular stagnation, the Middle East, Ukraine, how Xi and Putin think, and basically anything else that's happened since 1860.
It was a great honor to interview Daniel Yergin, the Pulitzer Prize winning author of The Prize - the best history of oil ever written (which makes it the best history of the 20th century ever written).
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Timestamps
(00:00:00) – Beginning of the oil industry
(00:13:37) – World War I & II
(00:25:06) – The Middle East
(00:47:04) – Yergin’s conversations with Putin & Modi
(01:04:36) – Writing through stories
(01:10:26) – The renewable energy transition
I had no idea how wild human history was before chatting with the geneticist of ancient DNA David Reich.
Human history has been again and again a story of one group figuring ‘something’ out, and then basically wiping everyone else out.
From the tribe of 1k-10k modern humans who killed off all the other human species 70,000 years ago; to the Yamnaya horse nomads 5,000 years ago who killed off 90+% of (then) Europeans and also destroyed the Indus Valley.
So much of what we thought we knew about human history is turning out to be wrong, from the ‘Out of Africa’ theory to the evolution of language, and this is all thanks to the research from David Reich’s lab.
Buy David Reich’s fascinating book, Who We Are How We Got Here.
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Timestamps
(00:00:00) – Archaic and modern humans gene flow
(00:20:24) – How early modern humans dominated the world
(00:39:59) – How bubonic plague rewrote history
(00:50:03) – Was agriculture terrible for humans?
(00:59:28) – Yamnaya expansion and how populations collide
(01:15:39) – “Lost civilizations” and our Neanderthal ancestry
(01:31:32) – The DNA Challenge
(01:41:38) – David’s career: the genetic vocation
Chatted with Joe Carlsmith about whether we can trust power/techno-capital, how to not end up like Stalin in our urge to control the future, gentleness towards the artificial Other, and much more.
Check out Joe's sequence on Otherness and Control in the Age of AGI here.
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Timestamps:
(00:00:00) - Understanding the Basic Alignment Story
(00:44:04) - Monkeys Inventing Humans
(00:46:43) - Nietzsche, C.S. Lewis, and AI
(1:22:51) - How should we treat AIs
(1:52:33) - Balancing Being a Humanist and a Scholar
(2:05:02) - Explore exploit tradeoffs and AI
I talked with Patrick McKenzie (known online as patio11) about how a small team he ran over a Discord server got vaccines into Americans' arms: A story of broken incentives, outrageous incompetence, and how a few individuals with high agency saved 1000s of lives.
Enjoy!
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Timestamps
(00:00:00) – Why hackers on Discord had to save thousands of lives
(00:17:26) – How politics crippled vaccine distribution
(00:38:19) – Fundraising for VaccinateCA
(00:51:09) – Why tech needs to understand how government works
(00:58:58) – What is crypto good for?
(01:13:07) – How the US government leverages big tech to violate rights
(01:24:36) – Can the US have nice things like Japan?
(01:26:41) – Financial plumbing & money laundering: a how-not-to guide
(01:37:42) – Maximizing your value: why some people negotiate better
(01:42:14) – Are young people too busy playing Factorio to found startups?
(01:57:30) – The need for a post-mortem
I chatted with Tony Blair about:
- What he learned from Lee Kuan Yew
- Intelligence agencies track record on Iraq & Ukraine
- What he tells the dozens of world leaders who come seek advice from him
- How much of a PM’s time is actually spent governing
- What will AI’s July 1914 moment look like from inside the Cabinet?
Enjoy!
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Timestamps
(00:00:00) – A prime minister’s constraints
(00:04:12) – CEOs vs. politicians
(00:10:31) – COVID, AI, & how government deals with crisis
(00:21:24) – Learning from Lee Kuan Yew
(00:27:37) – Foreign policy & intelligence
(00:31:12) – How much leadership actually matters
(00:35:34) – Private vs. public tech
(00:39:14) – Advising global leaders
(00:46:45) – The unipolar moment in the 90s
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