The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.
In this episode of The Defiant podcast we speak with Morgan Krupetsky, VP of OnChain Finance at Ava Labs, to break down one of the most significant shifts happening in crypto today: the rapid institutionalization of blockchain and Avalanche’s strategy to lead it.
Morgan walks us through Avalanche’s “real-world adoption first” ethos, explaining how its unique architecture enables enterprises, fintechs, banks, governments, and consumer apps to build purpose-designed blockchains while tapping into a shared liquidity hub.
Robert Leshner — the mind behind Compound, and now the founder of Superstate — believes the next trillion-dollar shift will come from bringing the world’s assets on-chain.
In this episode, Cami sits down with one of DeFi’s earliest pioneers to unpack:
Why DeFi itself shouldn’t change — but assets will
How tokenized T-bills, basis strategies, and even equities are finally getting institutional traction
Why regulatory “tailwinds,” not new laws, unlocked the RWA boom
The two competing models of tokenized stocks — and why both will win
What happens when DeFi becomes the infrastructure powering TradFi
What he’d do differently after Compound’s messy transition to decentralized governance
Robert also gives us a candid breakdown of how Superstate is building “canonical tokenization” — letting public companies turn their actual stock into blockchain-native assets — and why the real breakthrough won’t come from issuance… but from DeFi use cases.
In a world of fast-advancing technology, we are told to trust in our own research. But as the crypto space matures, scams and exploits remain a constant presence. When your assets are gone, they are gone forever, with a near-zero chance of recovery. The old mantra of "Do Your Own Research" falls short against sophisticated threats like address poisoning, advanced malware, and convincing AI deepfakes. How, then, do we build a safer Web3 without sacrificing the decentralized ideals at its core?
Alex Katz, CEO of the Web3 security solution Kerberus, joins us to explore this new frontier. We delve into the philosophical debate of autonomy versus protection, the push for auditing standards, and the future of wallet-native security.
Chapters
00:00 Android vulnerability: why mobile crypto is risky
01:21 Building safer Web3 without sacrificing decentralization
02:10 Crypto’s Wild West: few rules, big risks
03:37 Why scams continue: prosecution, standards, protection gaps
05:44 Kerberus approach and results: zero user losses
06:24 Coverage up to $30K and growth needs
08:24 Why DYOR is insufficient for modern threats
09:33 Traders’ behavior, phishing risk, and automation
11:25 Crypto antivirus vision and malware threats
12:11 Hardware vs. hot wallets: balancing safety and speed
14:41 Address poisoning, clipboard privacy, and deepfakes
20:22 Autonomy vs. protection: beyond user education
24:44 Wallet security should be default, like antivirus
31:51 Getting grandma into Web3 safely
32:29 Lightning round: tools, myths, key lessons
36:04 Where to find Kerberus and closing notes
In the second episode of Ecosystems: Avalanche, we track the protocol’s trajectory, which included a peak valuation of $13 billion, followed by a period of consolidation and strategic redevelopment.
The Defiant founder Camila Russo and Ava Labs' Chief Strategy Officer Luigi D’Onorio DeMeo are joined by founders from BENQI, Euler Labs, and LFJ, who are building on the Avalanche protocol. The conversation covers technical upgrades such as Octane and Etna, aimed at reducing fees, and Interchain Messaging, designed to enhance interoperability between blockchains. It also addresses the strategy to onboard institutional clients, including T. Rowe Price and Wellington, through customized Layer 1 solutions.
Can Avalanche cultivate an ecosystem that thrives without relying on constant incentives, particularly regarding liquidity and user retention? Join us to find out.
In this conversation, May Zabaneh breaks down PayPal’s move into stablecoins with PYUSD and why it matters for financial inclusion. We explore how PYUSD could lower costs for cross-border payments, deliver faster settlement, and plug directly into PayPal’s existing ecosystem. The discussion covers why PayPal built a proprietary stablecoin, early adoption and real-world use cases, and plans for international expansion. We also examine the role merchants play in crypto acceptance, how DeFi and traditional finance are converging, and why interoperability will be essential in the next phase of digital payments.
Chapters
00:00 PayPal’s Vision for Stablecoins
02:47 Why PYUSD? Rationale and Goals
05:18 Stablecoin Advantages: 24/7, Inclusion, Cross‑Border
08:22 Why Proprietary vs Supporting Others
11:06 Unlocking B2B and Rebuilding On‑Chain
12:20 PYUSD in the PayPal/Venmo Ecosystem
14:21 International Expansion and Global Transfers
17:02 Merchant Fit: Categories, Costs, Declines
19:32 User Segments: Crypto‑Curious to Super Users
23:28 Pay with Crypto: Scaling to Larger Merchants
29:38 PYUSD in DeFi: Open and Multi‑Chain
32:01 Liquidity, Partnerships, and the Three Pillars
35:56 Interoperability and Evolving Roles
39:11 AI x Payments: Agent‑Driven Commerce
40:42 Finding the Flywheel, What’s Next
In Web3, we find ourselves in an age of digital phantoms, a "click-farm" era where identity is flimsy and easily fabricated. But what if reputation could be real, portable, and valuable? Animoca Brands co-founder Yat Siu returns to explore this very question, detailing a vision for a trust layer built on zero-knowledge proofs.
He reveals plans for a Hong Kong dollar stablecoin, a joint venture with Standard Chartered and HKT awaiting regulatory approval, and unpacks the Mocaverse ecosystem where staking power and airdrops build a verifiable, cross-chain identity. We also explore the future of Web3 gaming, the coming meta shift from GTA 6, and a bold thesis: why the entire altcoin market may one day eclipse Bitcoin.
Tune in to discover how we might build a more trustworthy digital future.
Chapters
00:18 Solving Web3's "Click Fraud" Problem
01:01 Animoca's Plan for a Hong Kong Stablecoin
03:12 Navigating Hong Kong and China's Regulatory Landscape
09:11 The Composability and Promise of Stablecoins
11:09 Introducing the Mocaverse Loyalty SDK
12:56 Building an Interoperable Digital Identity
15:04 The Search for Trust in a Permissionless World
18:34 Data Custody, GDPR, and Self-Sovereignty
21:02 Can Reputation Live Across Multiple Chains?
27:07 The Limits of KYC and Airdrop Farming
28:49 Staking Power and Airdrops as a Form of Credit
40:34 Rumors of a US Listing for Animoca
45:13 The Future of Web3 Gaming and the GTA 6 Effect
56:22 Why Altcoins May One Day Eclipse Bitcoin
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Vinny sits down with Ahmad Shadid—former quant trader turned founder—who redirected the 2022 GPU crunch into a decentralized GPU network and now leads a bold push toward “sovereign superintelligence”: an AI CEO framework that can govern, fund, and scale itself transparently.
We unpack vibe coding (building with AI at 20x speed), how zero-knowledge proofs and decentralized networks could reshape AI, and why security must keep pace in a world moving faster than audits. We talk leadership, the democratization of software, and the next wave of founders shipping products in days—not months.
We discuss:
How vibe coding empowers anyone to ship working demos fast
Where AI CEOs make sense—and where humans still matter
Why Web3 UX, wallets, and cross-chain could leap forward
The real bottleneck: security and audits in a 20x build world
Practical risks for builders and consumers—and how to stay safe
Chapters
00:00 The internet-magnitude moment for building
01:13 Sovereign superintelligence and AI CEO
01:38 Vibe coding: ship 20x faster
01:53 Speed vs. security: the new bottleneck
03:03 From GPU crunch to GPU networks
03:22 Why AI + Web3 will drive the decade
06:51 Will AI replace “managers” or leaders?
09:53 Vibe coding explained—anyone can build
14:05 Tools outpace human code reading
16:30 Building an AI-first product workflow
21:13 Build fast, but build safely
32:00 Toward decentralized AI-managed organizations
37:34 What’s driving the vibe coding wave
39:58 Democratization vs. industry gatekeeping
42:45 Anyone can start—opportunities everywhere
Avalanche says it can finally square the circle: sub‑second finality, a large decentralized validator set, and thousands of sovereign L1s connected through native messaging for shared liquidity.
In the genesis episode of our new ECOSYSTEMS podcast, Camila Russo and guest cohost Luigi D’Onorio DeMeo of Ava Labs unpack the Avalanche story—from Team Rocket’s probabilistic consensus and the stadium sampling intuition, to today’s “city of chains” (C‑Chain liquidity hub, P/X chains, and customizable L1s). We discuss:
How random sampling achieves speed and safety/liveness guarantees
Customization without fragmentation via inter-chain messaging (ICM)
L1 vs L2 trade-offs: shared security vs shared risk, costs, and interoperability
Enterprise paths (FIFA, Toyota, fintechs), privacy options, and Ava Cloud’s “L1 in minutes”
Decentralization in practice: validator counts, Nakamoto coefficient, and hardware accessibility
What real adoption looks like for payments, DeFi, and emerging markets
If Avalanche is right, it has the chance to make finance programmable at scale. If not, we add to the L1 graveyard.
Crypto’s next chapter isn’t a shinier coin—it’s invisible rails. In this episode, we sit down with Aryan Sheikhalian, Research Lead at CMT Digital, to unpack the shift from “crypto as an asset” to crypto as infrastructure: 24/7 markets, instant clearing and settlement, and new structured products that couldn’t exist before.
We talk about tokenized equities (wrappers vs. native tokenization and why dividends/governance matter), how identity layers and ZK proofs unlock mainstream distribution through banks and fintechs, and where regulation is pushing builders toward partnerships and licensed rails.
Chapters
00:00 Hook: crypto as infrastructure, not asset
01:15 Guest intro and research focus
02:06 Incentives, psychology, and mechanism design
04:03 ICO lessons, maturity, and red flags
07:09 CMT Digital’s thesis and “strictly better”
10:27 Tokenized equities drivers and demand
13:40 Wrappers vs native: dividends, governance
16:06 Fintech rails, velocity, cost efficiency
18:26 Banks, distribution, and competitive incentives
20:29 New assets: GPUs, data, energy tokens
23:23 Identity layers and ZK proofs for scale
25:55 State of crypto VC and fund trends
27:51 Overlooked sectors: DePIN and decentralized data
31:26 Prediction markets and resolution design
34:18 Regulation, licenses, and partnerships
39:45 Market outlook: TVL, stables, volatility
42:45 Founder advice: conviction and user focus
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Paul Veradittakit, Managing Partner at Pantera Capital, to discuss the explosive growth of Solana, the future of stablecoins, and the evolution of digital asset treasury companies. Paul shares insights on Pantera's $1.2 billion Solana fund, the role of institutional capital in this crypto cycle, and why he believes Solana is poised to outperform Bitcoin and Ethereum. Tune in for a look into the next wave of blockchain innovation, from payments to gaming and beyond.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to stablecoins as a practical store of value
01:00 - Guest introduction: Paul Veradittakit of Pantera Capital
01:37 - Pantera’s $1.2 billion Solana fund: Why Solana?
02:36 - Evolution of digital asset treasury companies
04:13 - Pantera’s bullish stance on Solana: Technology and adoption
06:03 - Investment strategies for single-asset treasury companies
08:30 - Managing Solana in Helios: Staking, DeFi, and M&A
10:35 - Addressing Solana’s decentralization and downtime concerns
12:22 - Meme coins and their role in Solana’s ecosystem
18:18 - Stablecoins: A growing demand in Latin America
20:01 - Future use cases for Solana: Payments, AI, and Deepin
23:00 - The rise of specialized blockchains for vertical use cases
26:17 - Stablecoins as a payments hub: Key players to watch
28:14 - Altcoins’ potential to outperform Bitcoin in this cycle
33:15 - Crypto gaming: The underestimated vertical
35:37 - Closing thoughts: Solana’s future and Pantera’s vision
In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Ben Nadareski, CEO and Co-Founder of Solstice Labs, to explore DeFi on Solana and why it’s becoming a magnet for institutional adoption. Ben shares how Solstice Labs is pioneering permissionless, institutional-grade yield strategies and launching the US token, a fully collateralized stablecoin designed to unlock new levels of trust and scalability in DeFi.
We dive into Solana’s unique advantages—speed, low costs, and composability—and how it’s shaking off its “meme chain” reputation to emerge as a serious contender in the blockchain space. Ben also addresses the challenges of scaling trust in crypto, the rise of yield-bearing stablecoins, and how DeFi is empowering users in emerging markets.
We also tackle: How can Solana maintain its edge in a crowded blockchain market? What’s being done to address past network outages? And how can regulation strike the right balance between protecting users and fostering innovation?
Chapters
00:00 – Scaling Trust in Crypto
00:22 – Solana’s DeFi Momentum
01:16 – Why Solana Stands Out
03:43 – From Meme Chain to DeFi Leader
05:57 – The Rise of Yield-Bearing Stablecoins
08:01 – Regulation and Trust in DeFi
12:45 – Solstice Labs and the US Token
18:19 – DeFi’s Role in Emerging Markets
25:13 – The Future of DeFi on Solana
33:08 – Building a Transparent and Scalable DeFi Ecosystem