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That UFO Podcast

That UFO Podcast

UFOUAPAM

Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena
Hosted by Andy McGrillen


  • 28 minutes 53 seconds
    US Midterm SHOCK: What Happens to UFO Disclosure NOW?

    The US midterm elections have dramatically shifted the balance of power in Washington. But what does this mean for the future of UFO disclosure?

    In this special episode, Andy breaks down who's in and who's out of the UAP Caucus, what Chuck Schumer's increased influence could mean for the UAP Disclosure Act, and whether congressional hearings and the PURSUE file releases could be in jeopardy.

    Plus, could investigations into the Trump administration derail disclosure efforts, or open the door to new opportunities?

    Featuring your thoughts and reactions to the election fallout.

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    4 November 2026, 6:31 pm
  • 1 hour 10 minutes
    The Tedesco Brothers: UFO Encounters, the Hitchhiker Effect & the FBI

    I’m joined once again by John and Gerry Tedesco, the brothers behind the Nightcrawler mobile research laboratory, to discuss their latest UFO observations and the unusual experiences they say have followed researchers home.

    From luminous objects over the Atlantic to reports of bedroom orbs and a moving shadow caught on camera, we explore what they’ve observed and how they’re investigating it. They also discuss their ongoing FBI relationship, a visit from AARO, and plans to take their research offshore.

    Plus, their frank assessment of Skywatcher, frustrations with the government’s UFO releases, and why they believe independent scrutiny is essential to moving the subject forward.

    Recorded in early October 2026.

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    28 October 2026, 10:36 am
  • 2 hours 12 minutes
    Jake Barber: Burlison’s Next Move in UFO Disclosure?

    Is Jake Barber about to join Congressman Eric Burlison’s team? Andy and Pavel discuss the clues behind the unconfirmed hire, David Grusch’s departure and what a new appointment could mean for the UFO investigation.

    They also unpack Burlison’s latest interview, questions surrounding Skywatcher, frustrations with the government’s UFO releases and Diana Pasulka’s take on Jay Stratton’s book. Could the search for answers be heading in a new direction?

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    26 October 2026, 9:45 pm
  • 32 minutes 31 seconds
    PURSUE Release 7: AARO’s Black Triangle Case & the BAASS Files

    A black triangle encounter AARO says warrants further investigation, hundreds of pages of Bigelow Aerospace documents, and still no videos. I give my first reaction to PURSUE Release 7, covering the federal agents’ witness report, BAASS plans involving alleged recovered materials, proposed contact experiments and Project Capella. What do these documents actually establish, and is this release delivering what people expected?

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    23 October 2026, 2:32 pm
  • 1 hour 32 minutes
    Chris Ramsay Returns: UFO Crashes, Disclosure Fatigue & Secret Technology

    Chris Ramsay of Area 52 returns to discuss what convinces him about UFO crash retrievals, what makes him suspicious, and why he’s tired of being told we can’t handle the truth.

    We get into David Grusch’s Joe Rogan interview, Jay Stratton’s claims, and Chris’s visit to the alleged Aztec crash site with Jesse Michels. Chris explains why Aztec stands out to him, how his background as a magician shapes his view of whistleblowers, and why his conviction in Project Serpo is “next to zero”.

    We also discuss Chris Bledsoe’s institute, underwater UFO claims and whether advanced human technology could look alien, before Chris shares an extraordinary anonymous caller’s account of technology allegedly capable of anticipating enemy movements.

    We begin by remembering Mario Woods and the friendship he shared with Chris.

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    22 October 2026, 10:11 am
  • 2 hours 7 minutes
    The White House vs UFO Gatekeepers: Who Controls the Evidence?

    Is the White House trying to bypass the people keeping UFO secrets, and why are scientists still struggling to access the evidence?

    Andy and Pavel discuss Ross Coulthart’s reporting on alleged UAP operations at White Sands, questions surrounding Jake Barber and Skywatcher, and Garry Nolan’s frustration that Dr. Phil sees UFO footage before the scientific advisory group does.

    We also examine Jay Stratton’s latest comments about who holds the proof, what the government’s UAP releases are actually delivering, and whether disclosure can progress without waiting for Washington.

    Plus, a discussion about secrecy, belief and the influence of alleged secret societies within the UFO community.

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    20 October 2026, 9:40 am
  • 59 minutes 12 seconds
    UFO Cover-Up Claims & Pentagon Fallout, with Ben Schreckinger

    I’m joined by journalist Ben Schreckinger to discuss his reporting on the escalating dispute between Jay Stratton and Sean Kirkpatrick.

    After Stratton alleged that Kirkpatrick was compromised by a secret UFO legacy programme, Ben contacted the former AARO director for a response. Kirkpatrick denied the allegation and fired back with accusations of national security violations. Ben explains the exchange, what remains unanswered and where his investigation goes next.

    We also discuss covering Donald Trump’s rise for Politico, Trump’s approach to UFO disclosure, the challenges of investigating crash retrieval claims, and John Herrington’s changing account of his connection to Brent Friedman.

    Plus, why Ben is taking a closer look at telepathy, and whether fresh media interest can deliver answers to an audience tired of promises.

    Follow Ben’s reporting: https://www.paradigm.news

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    16 October 2026, 3:37 pm
  • 2 hours 8 minutes
    12 UFOs at Lockheed? Unpacking Jay Stratton’s Claims

    In a special midweek show, I’m joined by Pavel to dig into Jay Stratton’s new book, Out of the Shadows. Does it move the UFO conversation forward, or leave us with more claims than answers?

    We discuss:

    • Claims that Lockheed held 12 recovered non-human craft and that reverse engineering had succeeded.
    • Accounts of recovered beings and the questions these stories leave unanswered.
    • Stratton’s personal encounters and what he means by seeing non-human intelligence firsthand.
    • His criticism of Sean Kirkpatrick and warnings about manufactured whistleblowers.
    • Where his account fits alongside David Grusch and Lue Elizondo, including questions over AATIP’s history.

    We also look at Stratton’s television interviews, the divided reaction to the book, and why distinguishing personal experience, professional knowledge and secondhand accounts matters.

    What deserves serious follow-up, what needs evidence, and what should Stratton be asked next?

    Contains spoilers for Out of the Shadows.

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    16 October 2026, 11:37 am
  • 59 minutes 20 seconds
    Jay Stratton: Out of the Shadows | Review & Listener Reactions

    I review Jay Stratton’s Out of the Shadows, exploring the former UAP Task Force director’s biggest claims, personal experiences and the questions his account leaves open.

    From Hal Puthoff’s foreword and allegations of recovered craft to Skinwalker Ranch, Holloman and the roles of Elizondo and Grusch, I look at what the book adds to the UFO conversation and where more evidence is needed.

    I also discuss why Stratton’s seniority matters, the familiar stories he challenges, and your questions and reactions.

    Full spoilers throughout.

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    15 October 2026, 2:36 pm
  • 2 hours 10 minutes
    UFO Arms Race, Eric Weinstein & Jay Stratton’s Book Preview

    Andy is joined by Pavel to discuss claims of a UFO arms race, US–China technological competition and the questions surrounding mysterious drone incursions.

    We unpack Eric Weinstein’s comments on Diary of a CEO, revisit the fallout from David Grusch’s Rogan appearance and examine excerpts from Jay Stratton’s Out of the Shadows, including reported military UAP encounters and a warning about investigating the legacy programme.

    Plus, listener questions on reverse engineering, alleged alien abductions and what would genuinely move the disclosure conversation forward.

    Recorded live on 12 October, ahead of Stratton’s book release.

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    13 October 2026, 10:26 am
  • 1 hour 38 minutes
    Lenval Logan: “We’ve Seen Better” | Grusch, UAP Footage & The Phenom App

    Former UAP Task Force member and retired U.S. Air Force intelligence analyst Lenval Logan returns to the podcast for a wide-ranging conversation following David Grusch’s latest appearance on Joe Rogan.

    Logan reacts to Grusch’s new claims, discusses what was being talked about inside the UAP Task Force, revisits extraordinary footage he says he saw during his time working the issue, including a huge object moving underwater, and explains why he believes the recently released government UAP footage is not the best material available.

    He also discusses his involvement with Jason Sands and Joe Rogan, what had and had not been vetted at the time, and shares a deeply unusual personal experience involving a mysterious blue figure that he had previously been reluctant to discuss publicly.

    Later, Matt Stevens joins us to discuss the Phenom app, their attempt to build a citizen-science platform for documenting UAP sightings with verifiable video, sensor data and a clearer chain of custody in an age where AI-generated footage is becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish from the real thing.

    Check out the app - https://www.thephenom.app/

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    9 October 2026, 8:04 am
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