🎧 Listen to this episode if:

• You feel like your ex knows things they shouldn't

• You suspect you're being tracked, monitored, or watched

• You're going through separation and worried about digital safety

• Your ex had access to your devices, passwords, or accounts

• You want to protect yourself and your children from tech-based abuse

What if your ex knew where you were… who you were talking to… and what you were saying — without you ever telling them?

In this episode, we're joined by Catherine Plunkett, Director of Safety Net Australia at WESNET, to unpack the growing reality of technology-facilitated abuse in relationships and after separation.

Because abuse doesn't always leave bruises.

Sometimes it looks like:

• your ex showing up where you are unexpectedly

• knowing things you never told them

• accessing your messages, accounts, or location

And increasingly, this is becoming one of the most common forms of domestic and family violence.

We break down what tech abuse actually is, how it happens, the warning signs to look for, and most importantly what you can do to protect yourself and your children.

If something doesn't feel right, this episode will help you understand what might be happening and what steps you can take next.

⏱️ Episode Timeline - Is Your Ex Watching You? Tech Abuse in Divorce Explained

00:00 – Is Your Ex Spying on You? Hidden Tech Abuse Signs

01:35 – What Is Tech Abuse? How It Works in Relationships

05:10 – How Common Is Digital Abuse After Separation?

06:52 – Tracking Apps, Spyware & How People Monitor You

12:06 – Warning Signs Your Phone or Accounts Are Compromised

16:20 – What NOT to Do If You Suspect You're Being Watched

18:00 – Digital Safety Checks & Getting the Right Support

20:33 – Safe Phones, New Devices & Protecting Your Accounts

23:12 – That "Alarm Feeling": Trusting Your Instincts

24:11 – Smart Homes & Hidden Tracking Risks You Didn't Expect

26:31 – Cars, GPS & How Vehicles Can Track You

27:45 – Digital Safety Checklist: Steps You Can Take Today

30:47 – How Kids Can Be Used in Tech Monitoring

35:20 – AI, Deepfakes & The Future of Digital Abuse

38:39 – Where to Get Help for Tech Abuse

41:17 – Your Right to Privacy and Safe Communication

42:27 – What Safety Net Australia Does for Victims

44:19 – Final Thoughts, Support & Next Steps

🔗 Links & Resources

• Safety Net Australia – https://techsafety.org.au

• eSafety Commissioner – https://www.esafety.gov.au

• 1800 RESPECT – 1800 737 732

• Lifeline Australia – 13 11 14

⚠️ Family Violence Disclaimer

This episode contains discussion of family violence and may be distressing for some listeners.

If you are experiencing domestic or family violence, support is available: 📞 1800 RESPECT – 1800 737 732 📞 Lifeline – 13 11 14 🚨 In an emergency, call 000

⚖️ Legal Disclaimer

This podcast is for educational purposes only and discusses general concepts. It is not legal advice. Every situation is different, and you should seek independent professional guidance for your circumstances.

🎧 Listen to this episode if:

• You've been told to attend mediation but feel unsafe agreeing to child care arrangements

• Your ex is pushing for 50/50 care and you don't believe it's appropriate for the kids

• You're dealing with substance abuse, family violence, or safety concerns and your child's safety

• You feel pressured to compromise at mediation when you don't want to

• You want to understand your options without giving in on safety

Have you been told you need to go to mediation, but you're worried about the outcome because you simply cannot budge when it comes to your child's safety?

Has your ex demanded 50/50 care, but deep down you know that arrangement isn't in your child's best interests right now?

We talk about how to approach mediation when you feel stuck, how to clearly communicate your concerns, and the practical options that may be discussed including supervised time, stepped arrangements, and drug and alcohol testing.

If you're feeling pressured, overwhelmed, or unsure how to stand your ground, this episode will help you navigate mediation with clarity and confidence.

⏱️ Episode Timeline -Refusing 50/50 Care? What to Do in Mediation When Your Child's Safety Comes First

[00:00] – Mediation With Safety Fears

[02:33] – What Mediation Really Is

[05:40] – Holding The Safety Line Why you don't have to agree to unsafe arrangements just to reach an outcome.

[06:37] – Define The Real Risks How to clearly identify and communicate your specific safety concerns.

[09:27] – What Courts Call Unsafe Understanding how the court views risk and safety in parenting matters.

[10:33] – Supervised Time Options Exploring supervised contact as a way to maintain relationships safely.

[12:56] – Choosing Contact Centres How supervised contact works and what to consider when selecting a centre.

[16:34] – Cutting Contact And Court Optics What happens if time is stopped altogether and how it may be viewed legally.

[18:43] – Stepped Parenting Orders Using gradual increases in time to build safety and trust over time.

[21:26] – Therapy Conditions And Pitfalls When therapy is suggested, what to watch out for and potential risks.

[23:06] – Drug And Alcohol Testing How testing can be used to address concerns and create accountability.

[26:25] – Costs And Waitlists The practical realities of supervision services and delays.

[26:45] – Paying For Supervision Who pays for supervised time and how this is handled.

[27:28] – Preparing For Mediation How to go into mediation feeling clear, confident, and prepared.

[28:13] – When They Refuse Supervision What to do if the other parent won't agree to safe options.

[28:48] – Best Interests Not 50/50 Why equal time is not automatic and must reflect the child's needs.

[30:40] – Court View On Refusal How the court may interpret refusal to compromise or engage.

[33:27] – Holding Your Safety Line Practical ways to stay firm without escalating conflict.

[35:17] – If Mediation Hits Impasse What happens when no agreement is reached and what comes next.

[38:17] – Costs Threats Reality Check Addressing fear around legal costs and pressure tactics.

[39:07] – Using Mediation For Property How mediation can still be useful even if parenting isn't resolved.

[43:16] – Authenticity And Support Staying grounded, supported, and focused during a difficult process.

⚖️ Family Violence & Legal Disclaimer

This episode contains discussion of family violence and may be distressing for some listeners.

If you are affected, please consider listening with support or contact: Lifeline (Australia): 13 11 14 1800 RESPECT: 1800 737 732

This podcast is for educational purposes only and discusses general concepts in Australian family law. Every situation is different, and you should seek independent professional guidance for your specific circumstances.

🔗 Helpful Resources

• 1800 RESPECT – National Domestic Violence Support

• Lifeline Australia – 13 11 14

• Relationships Australia (Supervised Contact Services)

• Parenting communication apps: OurFamilyWizard, AppClose

🎧 Recommended Episodes

• Mediation: What It Is (and What It Isn't) https://youtu.be/YvcWAYuG4QA?si=hSiXFvVDaFDV4J6v

• Understanding the Best Interests of the Child (Section 60CC) https://youtu.be/k4-QTbfW8XM?si=SDzN2cIzO4FtlMQu

• Mediation Series: How to Prepare and What to Expect https://youtu.be/cmcFWXD2EBs?si=TqUcJvQzmd2MMNJc

🎧 Listen to this episode if:

• You are about to negotiate parenting orders or a parenting plan

• Your coparent is high conflict, manipulative or controlling

• You're worried they will twist agreements or exploit loopholes

• You're preparing for mediation or family court for parenting orders

• You want parenting orders that actually reduce future arguments

Family Violence & Legal Disclaimer

This episode contains discussion of family conflict and family violence which may be distressing for some listeners.If you are experiencing family violence or feel unsafe, please contact 1800 RESPECT (Australia) or your local domestic violence support service.

This podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. Laura and Lynette are discussing general concepts in Australian family law. Every situation is different, and listeners should obtain independent professional guidance about their specific circumstances.

Episode Time Stamps: The Parenting Order Loopholes Your Ex Will Exploit (And How to Close Them)

00:00 High Conflict Co Parenting

01:59 Why Orders Need Clarity

05:10 Changing Orders Is Hard

07:03 Loophole 1 Communication Rules

11:53 Loophole 2 Last Minute Changes

14:12 Loophole 3 Handover Boundaries

20:14 Loophole 4 Extracurricular Conflicts

26:30 Loophole 5 Stop Trash Talking

28:04 High School Choice Traps

29:39 Private School Fee Fights

31:14 School Updates and Access

32:07 Kids Phones and Screen Rules

35:50 Passports and Travel Clauses

40:06 Medical Decisions and Info

44:34 Emergency Contact Requirements

46:27 Rosters Holidays and Ambiguity

50:07 Think About What Ifs

51:12 Wrap Up and Disclaimers

Helpful Resources

• Lifeline (Australia): 13 11 14

• 1800 RESPECT: 1800 737 732

• Family Court of Australia resources on parenting arrangements

• Parenting communication apps: OurFamilyWizard, AppClose, Talking Parents

Episodes Mentioned in This Episode 1. 12 Agreements to Include in Parenting Plans

Referenced when discussing the main structure of parenting agreements before talking about loopholes. https://open.spotify.com/episode/6j325rOj96QvV8spPnYsX5?si=td4XlKQZSr6CXfCSm9H_bA

2. Handover Hell

Mentioned during the discussion about pick-up and drop-off conflicts and handover disputes. https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Pskjns3vZkLyv9FCefvxm?si=guIkwi1ITJuTOnshvpP9VA

3. Trash Talking

Referenced when discussing parents speaking negatively about the other parent around the children.https://open.spotify.com/episode/7bxqn5I6B1HCzO9r0zKnxY?si=nEH3splzQxSTBOUikJJHhA

4. Interstate Travel With Children After Separation

Mentioned during the travel and passport boundary discussion. https://open.spotify.com/episode/0auxUUS6QSh0ILcGHXbQgk?si=CmhYz74pSquyhTI2dgRMbQ

5. Tech Facilitated Abuse

Referenced during the children's phones, devices and monitoring discussion. COMING SOON

6. Sole Parental Responsibility

Suggested for listeners who want to understand decision-making authority around medical or school issues. https://open.spotify.com/episode/2O0VczmgtAPUrvcgJiF8HP?si=BM0nanlwTP6k67SMF8yg4g

Summary

Many parents believe that once parenting orders are made, the conflict will finally stop.

But the reality is court orders don't magically change behaviour.

If you are dealing with a high-conflict, manipulative, controlling or avoidant ex, poorly written parenting orders can become a playground for loopholes, misunderstandings and ongoing arguments.

In this episode of the Divorce Course Podcast, Laura and Lynette break down the most common loopholes people exploit in parenting orders and the practical boundaries you may want to think about before signing anything.

Because while parenting orders can't eliminate conflict entirely, clear boundaries can prevent many of the arguments before they even start.

You'll learn how to think about communication, handovers, school decisions, travel rules, technology, medical issues and more all through the lens of preventing future conflict.

🎧 Listen to this episode if:

• You are separated but still living under the same roof as your ex

• You feel stuck in the house and don't know how to move forward

• You want to know what an ouster order is

• You want to understand sole occupancy

• Someone told you if you leave the house you will lose your rights to it

• You want to understand what you can legally do to create space after separation

• Your ex refuses to move out and you don't know what your options are

• You're wondering whether you can make your ex leave the house

• You're dealing with a manipulative, avoidant, high-conflict, or coercive control type ex

• You want to learn about trial separations, nesting, temporary arrangements, and sole occupancy orders You're worried about how staying under one roof is affecting you or your children

• You want practical strategies to move forward without damaging your property settlement

⚖️ Legal & Safety Disclaimer

This podcast provides general educational information only and is based primarily on Australian family law. It is not legal advice and should not replace advice from a qualified legal professional. Always seek independent legal advice specific to your circumstances.

This episode also discusses family violence and coercive control, which may be distressing. If you feel unsafe or need support in Australia, contact 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732), Lifeline (13 11 14), or call 000 in an emergency.

When a relationship breaks down, most people focus on the big things: the kids, the property settlement, and the future. But one of the most suffocating parts of separation is often the very first step — how do you stop living under the same roof as your ex?

If you're walking on eggshells at home, wondering whether you can leave, whether you'll lose your rights to the house, or whether you can legally make your ex move out, you're not alone. These questions come up for almost everyone navigating separation.

In this episode, Mum and I break down five realistic ways to create space after separation without damaging your property settlement. We talk about what you can legally do, what you absolutely shouldn't do, and the myths that keep so many people stuck living under one roof for far longer than they need to.

[00:00] – The Fear of Being Stuck in the House During Separation Why the family home becomes one of the biggest emotional pressure points in divorce, and why living under one roof with your ex can feel suffocating for you and your children.

[02:43] – What You Should NEVER Do During Separation Why throwing belongings outside, changing locks, cutting utilities, or intimidating your ex can backfire legally and even be considered family violence.

[04:44] – Divorce Myth: Do You Lose Your Rights If You Leave the House? Debunking one of the most damaging divorce myths that keeps people trapped in toxic living situations during property settlement.

[06:05] – Five Ways to Create Space After Separation An overview of the five realistic strategies couples use to stop living under one roof during divorce.

[07:45] – Option 1: Simply Asking Your Ex to Move Out When a calm, respectful conversation about separation can actually work and how to confirm agreements without escalating conflict.

[09:58] – Option 2: Creating a Temporary Living Arrangement How structured temporary agreements can help one partner move out while property settlement negotiations continue.

[13:16] – Option 3: Nesting or House Swapping for the Kids What "bird nesting" is, why some divorced parents try it, and the emotional and logistical challenges that often arise.

[18:47] – Option 4: The Trial Move-Out Strategy How trial separations can reduce confrontation and why temporary moves often become permanent.

[20:23] – Trial Separation Tactics That Reduce Conflict Why trial separations can help avoid high-conflict confrontations, especially with manipulative or controlling partners.

[21:06] – Why Many Partners Don't See Divorce Coming Why some people emotionally check out of relationships long before the separation conversation happens.

[22:47] – The Risk of Control and Financial Backlash After Separation How manipulative or controlling partners may react when separation becomes real.

[24:04] – Coercive Control and the 'Amnesia' Effect How distance from a controlling relationship can help you recognise patterns of manipulation you couldn't see before.

[25:40] – Ouster Orders and Sole Occupancy Explained When courts can legally order one spouse to leave the home during separation.

[27:59] – The Risks of Applying for Sole Occupancy Orders Why asking the court to decide who stays in the house can sometimes backfire.

[29:55] – Domestic Violence Orders Without Leaving the House How protection orders can sometimes be issued even when couples continue living under one roof.

[32:54] – Safety Planning and Support Resources Why separation can be a high-risk time and the importance of having a safety plan in place.

[34:12] – Common Divorce Myths That Keep People Stuck Debunking misinformation about living under one roof, property rights, and separation timelines.

[35:42] – Why Physical Space Makes Divorce Negotiations Easier How creating distance can improve mediation outcomes and reduce emotional conflict.

[37:41] – Final Takeaways: Moving Forward After Separation Why creating physical and emotional space is often the first step toward starting your new life after divorce.

Episodes Mentioned in This Episode

"I Really Want to Keep the House" https://open.spotify.com/episode/6TzW9skKgvO8fjm0gcFPRg?si=t9q2a8TRRS-x7FAWEfBS9g

"Five Out-of-the-Box Ideas to Keep the House in Property Settlement"https://open.spotify.com/episode/5RgIsTMGh7EBqqbAgIVQ5Y?si=CRxIPgc-Sm6gRvin285Q_A

"The Divorce Personality Types Quiz Episode" https://open.spotify.com/episode/4IPDOWvfPKsSrPaCvf7Se8?si=7LfUwX6OSa-ym_OOujCt5Q

"How to Create a Safety Plan" https://open.spotify.com/episode/5hMmTS99LaeUWOXSxKMx1D?si=Oh5NMylQRs2HWuVFDT6szg

Support Services (Australia)

• 1800 RESPECT – 1800 737 732 National domestic, family and sexual violence support service.

• Lifeline – 13 11 14 24-hour crisis support and suicide prevention service.

• Emergency Services – Call 000 if you are in immediate danger.

🎧 Listen to this episode if: You're unsure whether what you experienced was abuse You've heard the term "coercive control" but don't fully understand it You feel confused, guilty or constantly off balance in your relationship Negotiations during separation feel manipulative rather than constructive You're worried about how coercive control affects children You want clarity and validation around your experience This episode discusses family violence and may be triggering for some listeners. If you need support, please reach out to 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732) or Lifeline (13 11 14). This discussion is general education only and not psychological or legal advice. ⏱️ Episode Timeline: When It's Not Just Conflict: How Coercive Control Shows Up in Divorce [00:00] – Is This Normal Conflict or Something More? [01:45] – Safety Disclaimer & Family Violence Support Services [02:35] – Why Naming Coercive Control Matters [03:35] – What Coercive Control Actually Is (Simple Definition) [04:32] – Patterns, Not Incidents: Why Abuse Isn't Always Obvious Why domestic violence is no longer viewed as isolated incidents but as ongoing patterns of behaviour that create harm over time. [05:35] – No Bruises, Still Harm: Emotional & Psychological Abuse Explained How gaslighting, micromanagement, silent treatment and financial control cause real psychological damage without visible injuries. [07:13] – How Do You Explain Coercive Control to Others? [10:03] – The Three D's: Disrespect, Disempowerment & Distortion A practical framework to identify coercive control behaviours in relationships and divorce negotiations. [11:09] – Disempowerment: Fear, Micromanagement & Loss of Autonomy How controlling partners create dependency, intimidation and fear of consequences — even without physical violence. [12:11] – Post-Separation Control: When Abuse Continues After Divorce Why coercive control often escalates during separation, mediation and family court proceedings. [13:59] – Disrespect & Double Standards in Abusive Relationships [16:27] – Distortion & Gaslighting: Rewriting Reality [18:48] – Narcissism vs Coercive Control: What's the Difference? Understanding the overlap between narcissistic traits and coercive control in emotionally abusive relationships. [20:09] – Seeing the Whole Pattern (Not Just One Argument) Why focusing on single incidents hides the broader pattern of domination and manipulation. [21:56] – How Coercive Control Impacts Children Why children are not just witnesses but victims in coercively controlled households — including hypervigilance and emotional harm. [24:22] – Protecting Children in Family Court How concerns about coercive control can be reframed as "alienation" — and why understanding legal narratives matters. [25:34] – One Safe Parent: The Protective Buffer for Kids [26:15] – Why It's So Hard to Leave an Abusive Relationship Financial dependence, fear, threats, trauma bonding and loss of autonomy explained. [27:56] – The Power Myth: Why Abusers Seem So Smart and Untouchable [28:54] – Trauma Bonding Explained The cycle of highs and lows that keeps people emotionally attached in abusive dynamics. [30:01] – Court Fears & Post-Separation Abuse Why people fear family court when coercive control continues through legal processes. [31:03] – Negotiation vs Control: The Simple Test How to tell the difference between genuine divorce negotiation and manipulation disguised as cooperation. [33:05] – The Three D's in Legal Tactics [34:15] – Legal Examples: Silent Treatment, Rigid Demands & Pressure Tactics Recognising micromanagement, unreasonable timelines, and threats dressed up as "legal process." [38:04] – Using Children to Maintain Control After Separation Excessive updates, micromanaging parenting decisions, and control disguised as "concern." [44:25] – Hold Onto Clarity: Documenting Patterns of Abuse Why writing things down helps counter gaslighting and protects your psychological stability during divorce. [46:37] – Legal Narratives & Gatekeeping in Court How coercive control can be minimised or reframed in legal settings — and why showing patterns matters. [48:12] – Hope, Support & Life After Coercive Control side. [49:06] – Workshop Resources & Next Steps 🔗 Resources Mentioned 1800 RESPECT – 1800 737 732 Lifeline – 13 11 14 https://kirovapsychology.com.au/ (Melbourne workshops & resources) Previous episodes on: Mediation vs Manipulation https://youtu.be/cmcFWXD2EBs?si=LOOTB_BwYJIQSmn9 Legal Abuse: https://youtu.be/h2Pu2MmbDxw?si=-HiUdJAfdvoMK8fL Alienation Allegations: https://youtu.be/g8ofj-Sp3n4?si=_0tX3XSweEMzYp6o Safety Planning https://youtu.be/R4M8Hr9cbh0?si=0XyklWL2VMwx_cmN

🎧 Listen to this episode if…

● Your ex's parents or extended family are texting, pressuring or negotiating on their behalf ● Grandparents are demanding time with your children ● You're being accused of owing money that was supposedly a "gift" ● You're dealing with coercive control through third parties ● You feel like you're negotiating with an entire extended family ● You're unsure what you legally have to respond to ● Your mediation agreements change after your ex speaks to their family ● You want clear boundaries and practical guidance during separation

If you are going through separation or divorce and suddenly your ex's family has become involved, this episode will help you understand what your responsibility actually is and where it ends.

In this conversation, Mum and I unpack what you legally have to respond to, what you can ignore, and how to protect your peace when outside pressure starts escalating conflict. We talk about grandparents family members negotiating property settlement, so-called "loans" during property disputes, mediation interference, coercive control via in-laws, and how to set boundaries without damaging your credibility.

If you're feeling overwhelmed, ganged up on, or unsure how to manage extended family pressure this episode is your permission slip to protect yourself.

Legal Disclaimer:This episode contains general educational discussion only and is not legal advice. We are based in Australia and laws differ between countries. Always seek independent legal advice tailored to your personal circumstances before making decisions.

Family Violence & Safety Trigger Warning Disclaimer This episode includes discussion of family violence, coercive control and high-conflict dynamics.If you are experiencing family violence, intimidation, harassment or feel unsafe at any time, please seek support immediately.

⏱️ Episode Timeline for When In-Laws Interfere in Your Divorce (What You Have to Respond To)

00:00 – Introduction: When Your Ex's Family Gets Involved What happens when parents, siblings or extended family step into your separation?

02:05 – How Family Dynamics Shift After Separation Why "blood is thicker than water" can suddenly feel very real.

05:35 – Do You Have to Respond to In-Laws Negotiating on Your Ex's Behalf? What you can ignore, what to document, and how to protect yourself.

08:10 – Grandparents' Rights Explained (Australia) When grandparents can see children and what your responsibility actually is.

14:15 – Gifts vs Loans in Property Settlement When a $100,000 "gift" suddenly becomes a claimed debt.

19:50 – Can Grandparents Demand Time If Your Ex Isn't Seeing the Kids? Understanding the best interests of the children and practical considerations.

24:20 – Family Members Pressuring or Manipulating Children How courts view this behaviour and what you can do.

27:10 – Divorce Mediation Agreements Changing After Family Influence Why outside pressure can derail settlements and how to manage it.

30:30 – Boundaries With Your Own Family During Divorce How to handle well-meaning but unhelpful advice and pressure.

31:45 – What You Can Control vs What You Can't Practical mindset shifts to protect your peace.

35:45 – "It's Not About Them" Why your focus must remain on you, your children, and your divorce case.

🔗 Links & Resources

● DIY Divorce Blueprint – Courses & Support www.thedivorcecourse.com.au/enrol

● 1800 RESPECT – 1800 737 732

● Lifeline – 13 11 14

Related Episodes:

● Trash Talking – What To Do When Your Ex Badmouths You ● 10 Boundaries for a Healthy Divorce ● How to Create a Safety Plan ● Dealing With Narc Lies in Court ● When Your Ex Lies in Court

Closing Reminder

Divorce is hard enough without feeling like you're negotiating with an entire extended family.If this episode helped you feel clearer, calmer or more confident about setting boundaries during separation, please follow, rate and review the podcast. Your support helps more women find grounded, practical information when they need it most.And remember you are not responsible for managing everyone else's emotions.This is not about them.

🎧 Listen to this episode if…

• You feel overwhelmed and don't know what the steps of the divorce process are

• You're separated (or thinking about separating) and want clarity on what happens next

• You're stuck in negotiations or dealing with a stonewalling, avoidant or controlling ex

• You want to understand mediation, arbitration, court filings, interim hearings and trials

• You're self-represented and need a clear, realistic roadmap of the family law process

• You want to feel calmer, in control, and informed about the journey ahead

• You're already in the court system and want to know what the upcoming stages really mean

• You want to avoid panic, surprises and fear of the unknown

If you're going through separation, divorce or a parenting/property dispute in Australia, this episode will walk you through every major step in the family law process from the moment of separation all the way to a final hearing.

No jargon. No fear. No overwhelm. Just a clear explanation of what you may face and how long things typically take.

We break down how to negotiate, when mediation works (and why it fails), what arbitration actually is, how to use deadlines and case law to manage a difficult ex, when court becomes necessary, what happens at each court stage, and how to avoid getting stuck for months or years.

Whether you're at the very beginning or already halfway through, this roadmap will help you feel grounded and prepared.

📌 LEGAL DISCLAIMER: This episode is general education only — not legal advice. Always seek independent legal advice for your specific situation.

⏱️ Episode Timeline

00:00 – Divorce Roadmap Overview: What to Expect From Separation to Trial A complete explanation of the stages ahead and why understanding the process matters.

00:38 – Meet the Hosts + Education-Only Disclaimer Why we give information, not advice — and how to use the episode wisely.

01:59 – Why Your Separation Date Matters (Especially Under One Roof) How timelines, contributions, and financial outcomes are affected.

03:45 – DIY Negotiations: Why a 'Signed Paper' Isn't Enough The trap so many people fall into — and how it can cost you later.

05:28 – Consent Orders & Financial Agreements Explained What makes an agreement legally binding and what the court checks for.

06:59 – Parenting vs Property Mediation: How They Work & How to Prepare Why combining both in one day often backfires.

10:55 – After Mediation Fails: Arbitration, Offers & Partial Agreements How to keep momentum instead of getting stuck.

13:28 – Stonewalling & Delay Tactics: Deadlines, Notice to File & Case Law Strategies to shift an avoidant or controlling ex.

19:03 – Filing in Court: What Documents You Need & What They Mean Affidavits, financial statements, notices of risk and more.

20:47 – Should You File Parenting & Property Together? The advantages and pitfalls.

22:03 – Using Court Filings as Negotiation Leverage Why an initiating application often triggers settlement.

23:11 – First Court Event Explained (It's Not a Trial!) What registrars do, what decisions they can make, and what they can't.

23:43 – PPP500 & Evatt List: What These Court Pathways Mean for You Faster lists for smaller pools and family violence matters.

25:52 – Interim Hearings: Urgent Parenting & Property Issues When the court steps in early.

28:02 – Court-Ordered Mediation: Reality Checks & Settlement Pressure The moment many cases resolve.

31:35 – Readiness Hearing: Preparing for Trial Final directions, valuations, and evidence.

33:11 – Final Trial: What Actually Happens in the Courtroom Cross-examination, timelines, outcomes and appeals.

36:37 – Big Picture Strategy: Stay Focused on Your Stage Why thinking too far ahead causes overwhelm.

40:09 – Costs Orders & Legal Abuse The consequences for bad behaviour in litigation.

41:58 – Wrap-Up: Tell It to the Judge + Course Info & Outro

🔗 Links & Resources

✨The Course: https://www.thedivorcecourse.com.au/enrol ✨ Courses & Free Support Resources: www.thedivorcecourse.com.au

💛 Support Services 1800 RESPECT – 1800 737 732 Lifeline – 13 11 14

🎧 Listen to this episode if…

• You feel stuck and unable to move forward after separating

• You're separated under one roof and nothing is changing

• Your stuck deciding whether to go to court next or just give up

• You're overwhelmed by the emotional load and decision fatigue

• You don't know whether to start with the house, the money, the kids or the legal steps

• You're waiting for the "right time" but it never seems to come

• You want clarity about why you feel frozen and what to do next

• You're scared of making a mistake or starting conflict

• You want a practical, compassionate explanation of why early separation feels like quicksand

• You need reassurance that you're not failing you're human

PLEASE note Lyn's audio file at the end of the episode was lost so we have cobbled together what we had to finish the episode as we know so many of you listen each week so, sorry no embroidered cushion this week. Hopefully the tech will behave itself next week for you all.

Trigger warning there are discussions of Family Violence & Coercive Control.

Legal Warning: this is not legal advice

📝 Episode Summary: Separated… but Stuck? The Chicken & Egg Problem Keeping You in Divorce Limbo

If you've ever felt like you're separated but… nothing is moving, you're not alone. In this powerful episode, Laura and Lyn unpack the "Chicken & Egg Problem" of early divorce — that confusing, exhausting stage where every decision feels dependent on another decision, and you don't know which one you're meant to make first.

Should you move out? Should you get legal help? Should you talk to the bank? Should you wait for your ex? Should you apply for parenting arrangements? Should you start disclosure? Should you sell the house? Should you stay for the kids?

Everything feels tangled, and you feel frozen.

We break down why this paralysis happens, why it's normal, and how small, strategic steps can help you get out of emotional and practical limbo. You'll hear examples from real separations, insights about overwhelm and avoidance, and the surprising reasons so many women stay "stuck" for months — or even years.

This episode is your permission slip to take one small step, feel less afraid, and finally understand why your nervous system is doing exactly what it was designed to do.

This episode contains general separation discussion, not legal advice.

⏱️ Episode Timeline

00:00 — Why Early Separation Feels Impossible: The Chicken & Egg Problem

01:05 — What Keeps Women Stuck in Divorce Limbo

02:28 — Emotional Overload, Fear & Decision Paralysis

04:50 — Separated Under One Roof: Why Nothing Changes

07:14 — "Where Do I Start?" Understanding the Overwhelm

10:40 — The Pressure to Have a Full Plan Before Taking Action

12:33 — Money Fear, Housing Fear & Losing Stability

15:55 — Why Conflict Avoidance Keeps You Frozen

17:48 — Waiting for the Perfect Moment (And Why It Won't Come)

20:22 — How to Take One Small Step Without Starting a War

23:15 — Using Information to Reduce Fear and Panic

26:44 — What You Can Control vs What You Can't

29:30 — Making Progress Even When You're Not Ready

32:01 — Reassurance for Anyone Feeling Stuck

35:14 — Final Encouragement: You Don't Have to Solve Everything Today

🔗 Links & Resources

✨ Download the FREE Divorce Personality Quiz Printable 👉 www.thedivorcecourse.com.au/quiz

✨ Join the Newsletter for Bonus Divorce Strategy Tools (We only send practical, supportive content — no fluff.)

www.thedivorcecourse.com.au

✨ Safety & Support Resources 1800 RESPECT – 1800 737 732 Lifeline – 13 11 14

If this episode helped you feel seen, understood, or just a little less stuck, please follow, rate, and review the podcast. Sharing this episode might give another woman the clarity she desperately needs.

🎧 Listen to this episode if…

• You're confused about why your divorce feels so hard

• You're not sure how to communicate or negotiate with your ex

• You suspect you're dealing with avoidance, conflict, or control or you are a people pleaser.

• You're tired of being blindsided and want clarity

• You want a divorce strategy that matches the actual dynamic you're in

• You want a downloadable, printable version of the quiz

• You love practical tools that help you feel calm, informed, and back in control

• You want to take the quiz and finally understand your ex's divorce behaviour

Trigger warning there are discussions of Family Violence & Coercive Control.

Legal Warning: this is not legal advice

📝 Episode Summary

In this episode, Laura and Lyn guide you through the 20-question Divorce Personality Quiz, designed to help you identify the divorce pattern you're dealing with

Your divorce type affects:

• your communication strategy

• your negotiation style

• whether mediation will work

• how to set boundaries

• what evidence you need

• how to emotionally protect yourself

• whether safety planning is appropriate

You'll take the quiz with us live inside the episode and learn what each answer (A, B, C, or D) reveals about your ex's behaviour. This insight can transform your divorce experience by helping you understand what's really happening and why your current approach may or may not be working.

And if you want the free downloadable PDF of the quiz, a printable results sheet, and access to our bonus email guide "How to Strategise Based on Your Divorce Type", head to:

👉 www.thedivorcecourse.com.au (Join the newsletter and we'll send the printable straight to your inbox.)

This episode includes general behavioural discussion, not legal advice.

⏱️ Episode Timeline

00:00 Introduction: What Divorce Type Are You Dealing With?

00:36 Why Identifying Your Divorce Type Matters for Your Strategy

00:58 Overview of the Four Divorce Types: Amicable, Avoidant, High-Conflict & Controlling

01:14 How to Take the Divorce Personality Quiz

01:39 Meet Your Hosts and Episode Overview

02:11 Understanding Divorce Personality Types & Behaviour Patterns

03:15 Divorce Quiz Part 1: Decision-Making, Conflict & Communication

05:51 What Your Answers Mean: Interpreting the First Quiz Results

09:40 Divorce Quiz Part 2: Boundaries, Money Issues & Emotional Safety

19:05 Divorce Quiz Part 3: Rules, Power Imbalances & Information Control

25:23 Final Divorce Quiz Questions + Strategy Insights

30:08 Recognising Manipulative or Controlling Divorce Dynamics

31:41 How to Identify Your Divorce Type From Your Quiz Results

32:30 Amicable Divorce: Strengths, Risks & When It Fails

35:14 Avoidant Ex Partners: Why Progress Feels Impossible

38:23 High-Conflict Divorce Explained: Escalation, Triggers & Survival Strategies

41:16 Controlling or Coercive Ex Partners: Red Flags & Safety Considerations

44:40 How to Create a Safety Plan During Divorce

48:20 Helpful Resources, Support Services & Next Steps

52:49 Final Thoughts: Matching Your Strategy to Your Ex's Behaviour

🔗 Links & Resources

✨ Download the FREE Divorce Personality Quiz Printable 👉 www.thedivorcecourse.com.au/quiz

✨ Join the Newsletter for Bonus Divorce Strategy Tools (We only send practical, supportive content )

✨ Safety & Support Resources 1800 RESPECT – 1800 737 732 Lifeline – 13 11 14

Episodes Mentioned

10 Boundaries You Should Set Up Before Divorce https://open.spotify.com/episode/0ecDTxw4rTc3zXBkcjuYpA?si=Eb_uqTJnSbS2Vtyz80tBmQ

The Purple Book Episode (Coercive Control & Abuse Patterns)

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1ccm01eMpJ3TMZa2uMaUMN?si=WJ7wQy9mTmKYhd2sTPiO0g

The Original "Divorce Personality Types" Episode

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1X89h1IBOUa0QFxiICIuwo?si=neoemW5URuubT8VYaGjlPw

If this episode helped you finally understand the behaviour you've been dealing with, please follow, rate and review the podcast. And don't forget to grab your FREE quiz download it's one of the most powerful tools to help you navigate your divorce with clarity and confidence.

🎧 Listen to this episode if…

• You're worried your custody or property case might end up eventually in court.

• You are preparing for Family Court or worried your case might escalate

• You want to avoid mistakes that judges hate seeing in parenting or property matters

• You're dealing with a high-conflict ex or coercive control

• You're self-represented and want to understand what the court looks for

• You want to protect your credibility and stay child-focused

• You feel overwhelmed and want to understand how to present better in court

• You want to understand how Family Court judges make decisions

If you're going through separation, divorce, or a parenting dispute in Australia, this episode will help you avoid the most common mistakes people make in the Family Court. These insights can make or break your credibility, influence parenting outcomes, and help you stay calm and strategic throughout the legal process.

In this episode, we unpack 10 behaviours that can ruin your case — the things that damage cases, frustrate judges, increase legal costs, and affect how your evidence is viewed. Whether you're self-represented, considering mediation, managing a high-conflict ex, or worried about how your actions may be interpreted, this conversation will give you clarity on what the court expects from parents.

Learn how to stay child-focused, how to avoid actions that look like parental alienation, how to communicate effectively, how to avoid sabotaging your own case, and why honesty, disclosure, and consistency matter so much. If you're feeling overwhelmed, emotional, or stuck in conflict, this episode offers guidance to help you stay grounded and organised.

LEGAL DISCLAIMER: This episode contains general discussion only this is not legal advice please always get independent legal advice as each situation is different.

Trigger Warning: This episode has some discussions of family violence.

⏱️ Episode Timeline

00:00 – Introduction: How to Avoid Mistakes That Hurt Your Family Court Case Overview of the most common behaviours that weaken parenting and property cases.

02:07 – Why Judges Prioritise Child-Focused Parenting in Family Court Understanding how child welfare drives decisions and how to demonstrate it clearly.

06:36 – Keeping Emotions Out of Family Court: What Judges Look For Why emotional reactions, venting and accusations can damage your credibility.

13:26 – Presenting Evidence Properly: What Counts in Family Court How to gather, organise and present evidence that the court will actually rely on.

16:59 – The Serious Consequences of Lying or Exaggerating in Court How dishonesty can destroy your case and impact parenting or property outcomes.

21:27 – Disclosure Rules in Property Settlement: What You MUST Provide Explaining financial disclosure obligations and what happens if you don't comply.

25:26 – Following Court Orders and Deadlines: Why Timing Matters How delays, missed tasks or ignoring directions reflect poorly on your case.

25:58 – Understanding Family Court Practice Directions (CPD Requirements) What the Central Practice Direction means for your behaviour and preparation.

28:40 – Narrowing the Issues Before Court: What Judges Expect You to Do Why bringing every problem to court backfires and how to refine your case.

33:19 – Avoiding Behaviour That Looks Like Parental Alienation How to protect your children and yourself without appearing to obstruct the other parent.

39:43 – Acting Reasonably in Family Court: How It Influences Outcomes Examples of unreasonable behaviour and why judges pay close attention to it.

42:03 – Courtroom Etiquette, Presentation and Final Takeaways How to conduct yourself, communicate effectively, and stay credible throughout your case.

🔗 Links & Resources

• Free Webinar https://www.thedivorcecourse.com.au/divorcewebinarregistration

• The Divorce Course Website – Courses & Support www.thedivorcecourse.com.au

• 1800 RESPECT – 1800 737 732

• Lifeline – 13 11 14

Dealing with Narc Lies in court

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5SdkXhj3vC2tfO3gDdkM6y?si=P-fwZYVSQxO7JnVs5yYJdw

When your ex lies in court https://open.spotify.com/episode/2OpAGxXfx78iAO81TMPPxJ?si=wcN-tRFdSaSjGLU51fmV7w

Overcoming disclosure delays

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0uOO8dKYV4NWlCfyu8FZEh?si=PI-J7YtGTb6pFRKGa7KjdA

Disclosure Deadlocks

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2yrShRhq4jcGVuVDN6Jq6C?si=ZFmAHXmAT1-JS0neHjsDHQ

Is your ex hiding assets

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4KbgLRFXB9r2rCz3vycZ98?si=nKf11LeYS_66Uzn003Ydug

Central Practice Directions

https://www.fcfcoa.gov.au/fl/pd/fam-cpd

False Accusations of Parental Alienation

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0l9L5SDovV515EU4H5gpIf?si=jNYKY5cBTCatIXZpEHXisQ

Handover Hell

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Pskjns3vZkLyv9FCefvxm?si=UrHDcaRBTwuKpnVmWty-qA

Family Reports

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4k2Z4glD8WpY4dsqz6vn5Y?si=MMj_I2N5RlaT_5flBfZjMQ

Court Etiquette

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0JOwxZOGxT182UOp8iqd8z?si=8ib6y9qLRvuD5n8AO4y46w

💛 Closing Reminder

If this episode helped you feel more prepared or confident, please follow, rate, and review the podcast. Your support helps more women find clear, supportive information during their divorce or separation.

🎧 Listen to this episode if…

• You're going through DV, coercive control, divorce or separation

• You've survived DV and want to help other women going through it

• You feel alone, isolated, or unsure where to turn

• You want to hear about real support available for women in crisis

• You've lost hope and need to know good people still exist

• You want to understand what homelessness really looks like for women

• You want to connect with a service that listens without judgment

• You've wondered where to get help if you don't know where to start

📝 Episode Summary

If you've ever felt invisible, silenced, or completely alone while living through domestic violence, coercive control, separation, or divorce this episode is for you.

Today, Laura sits down with Jo West, the founder of 4 Voices, a remarkable charity supporting women experiencing domestic violence, financial abuse, homelessness, social isolation, and coercive control. This episode is different from our usual legal conversations it's a conversation about hope, humanity, and the power of connection when someone is going through hell and doesn't know where to turn.

Jo shares the reality of what women face when they're living in fear, why so many are afraid to reach out, and how simple acts of kindness like someone showing up, listening, and seeing you can genuinely change the course of a woman's life.

If you're struggling right now, this episode will remind you of something important: There are helpers. You are not alone. And there is support waiting for you.

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains general discussion about domestic violence and support, not legal information.

Finding Hope Again: The Charity Giving Women a Voice during DV, Coercive Control & Divorce

⏱️ Episode Timeline

[00:00] Meet Four Voices: A Support Service for Women Facing DV & Crisis [01:00] Why Women Experiencing Coercive Control Often Feel Too Afraid to Reach Out [02:06] Hidden Homelessness: The Reality for Women Leaving Unsafe Homes [03:41] How Four Voices Uses Human Connection to Support Isolated Women [07:00] What Happens on a Four Voices Support Van Shift [09:04] A Story of Strength: One Woman Starting Over After 25 Years of Abuse [12:33] Financial Abuse, Survival Mode & Why Leaving Is So Hard [14:00] Why Some Women Get Turned Away From Services [16:57] A Phone-Based Support System Designed for Women Who Are Scared to Talk [18:55] Check-Ins, Consistency & Why They Matter for Recovery [20:40] How You Can Help: Volunteering, Corporate Support & Raising Awareness [23:50] Understanding the Hidden Crisis of Female Homelessness [27:23] Misconceptions About DV, Leaving, and Life After Abuse [30:41] Hope Stories: Courage, Connection & What Keeps Jo Going [33:30] Final Message for Anyone Feeling Alone or Hopeless

🔗 Links & Resources

• Four Voices Charity: https://www.4voices.org.au

• Instagram: @4voicesau

• 1800RESPECT – 1800 737 732

• Lifeline – 13 11 14

• If in danger, call 000 immediately in Australia

🚨 Support Services (Australia)

• 1800 RESPECT – 1800 737 732

• Lifeline – 13 11 14

• Safe Beds for Pets (RSPCA)

💛 Closing Reminder

If this conversation brought you comfort or hope, please follow, rate, and review the podcast. Sharing this episode could help another woman find the support she desperately needs.