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Challenge what you think it’s like to live with disability.  Hosts Dylan Alcott and Angus O’Loughlin speak to people living with disabilities about their lives and ask them the questions you thought were off-limits. You’ll laugh. You’ll cry. You’ll learn something. This is a podcast for everyone - disabled or abled, and hopes to break down stigmas, change perceptions, and to challenge what you think it’s like to live with disability.

  • 39 minutes 7 seconds
    Disability Pride, Para Sport and the Power of Storytelling with Elizabeth Wright

    In this episode, Elizabeth Wright shares her journey from being a Paralympic swimmer to becoming a sports journalist. She discusses the challenges and triumphs of her career, the importance of representation in media, and her personal experiences with disability. Elizabeth emphasises the need for more coverage of Paralympic sports and the significance of embracing one's identity and pride in the face of ableism. The conversation highlights the evolving landscape of disability representation in journalism and the importance of community support.

    Connect with Elizabeth 

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elizabethlwright/?hl=en

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-wright-ply-300610129/ 

    Website: http://www.elizabethwright.net/ 

    What we cover:

    • Elizabeth Wright transitioned from Paralympic swimmer to sports journalist.
    • She emphasizes the need for more representation of disabled individuals in media.
    • The Sydney 2000 Paralympics were a turning point for public support of para sports.
    • Elizabeth faced challenges in her identity after retiring from swimming.
    • She found empowerment through photography and art.
    • Living with a disability requires daily practice of self-acceptance.
    • Elizabeth advocates for more coverage of Paralympic sports.
    • She reflects on the ableist perceptions in society.
    • The importance of community pride in disability is highlighted.
    • Elizabeth aims to inspire more disabled individuals to pursue journalism.

     

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Background

    02:58 Elizabeth Wright's Journey in Sports Journalism

    05:51 Reflections on the Paralympic Games

    09:05 Life After Competitive Swimming

    11:51 Exploring Identity Through Art and Photography

    14:54 Understanding Disability and Personal Experience

    21:19 The Journey of Adaptation

    22:34 Prosthetics: Tools of Empowerment

    26:54 Disability Pride: A Daily Practice

    31:10 The Future of Disability Representation in Journalism

    33:43 Confronting Ableism: Personal Experiences and Growth

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    7 December 2025, 1:05 pm
  • 44 minutes 48 seconds
    Designing Beauty with Disability in Mind | Storm Menzies and Holly Sultana

    In this episode of ListenABLE, Dylan and Angus sit down with Storm and Holly, the founder and brand ambassador of ByStorm Beauty, a trailblazing inclusive beauty brand designed for people with disabilities.

    They explore the challenges of inaccessible makeup, the importance of representation in beauty, and how ByStorm is creating products that empower the disability community while building a profitable, inclusive business. Storm shares the journey from co-designing accessible tools to collaborating with major brands, while Holly reflects on the personal impact of independence, confidence, and visibility.

    Discover how thoughtful design, community consultation, and advocacy are reshaping the beauty industry—and learn why accessibility benefits everyone.

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    Chapter Titles & Timestamps

    • 00:00 – Intro: Welcome to Listenable

    • 00:01 – Accessible Makeup Inspiration: How breaking a hand led to a new approach

    • 01:40 – Meet Storm & Holly: Founders and ambassadors of ByStorm Beauty

    • 03:00 – Empowerment Through Representation: How ByStorm impacts the disability community

    • 06:10 – The Problem With Inaccessible Beauty: Everyday struggles and barriers

    • 07:27 – Normalizing Struggle: Holly’s perspective on accessibility and independence

    • 08:33 – Overcoming Ableism in Beauty: Challenges convincing others accessibility matters

    • 12:12 – Building a Disability-Led Business: From prototypes to a thriving brand

    • 16:20 – What is Accessible Makeup?: Tools, attachments, and co-design

    • 18:08 – Collaborations & Industry Impact: Celeste Barber and mainstream engagement

    • 19:43 – Representing ByStorm: The ambassador experience and social impact

    • 25:08 – Community & Advisory Board: Lived experience shaping product development

    • 27:00 – Retail & Global Expansion: Inclusion in stores and future plans

    • 31:04 – Time & Independence: How accessibility saves time and fosters autonomy

    • 33:06 – Product Design Details: Shapes, grips, and user experience

    • 34:52 – Packaging & Unboxing: Accessibility beyond the product itself

     

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    23 November 2025, 1:05 pm
  • 49 minutes 36 seconds
    Inside Parliament: Senator Jordon Steele-John on Disability, Politics, and Representation

    Australian Senator Jordon Steele-John joins Dylan Alcott and Angus O’Loughlin to share what life is really like inside Parliament as a wheelchair user and one of the few disabled politicians in Australia. From rushing to Senate votes without extra time allowances to reshaping accessibility in politics, Jordon gives a candid and inspiring look at how inclusion, policy, and representation intersect in Australia’s most powerful building.

    The conversation spans his journey from a 23-year-old Greens candidate from WA to a national advocate for accessibility, neurodiversity, and disability rights. Jordon opens up about moments of misunderstanding on the campaign trail, how his ADHD and cerebral palsy shape his leadership, and why true inclusion starts with “getting our own house in order.”

    This episode is full of insight, humour, and practical advice for anyone—disabled or not—who wants to create change in their community.

    Connect with Jordon:

    Key Topics

    • Life as a Senator with disability

    • Accessibility barriers in Parliament House

    • Ableism in political systems

    • How Parliament handles (or doesn’t handle) disability inclusion

    • The power of lived experience in politics

    • Jordon’s journey to the Senate at age 23

    • Disability pride and representation

    • ADHD, cerebral palsy, and leadership

    • Advice for young people with disability wanting to enter politics

    • Building collective action for change

    Quotes

    “If Parliament is going to make laws that fix accessibility in the community, we’ve got to literally get our own house in order first.” – Jordon Steele-John

    “People thought I was collecting for charity, not running for office. That moment showed how deeply society equates disability with needing help, not giving leadership.” – Jordon Steele-John

    “Politics should represent every voice—including people with intellectual and cognitive disabilities. The system can and should be rebuilt to meet everyone’s access needs.” – Jordon Steele-John

    About Jordon Steele-John

    Jordon Steele-John is an Australian Greens Senator for Western Australia and the youngest person ever elected to the Australian Senate. A proud disabled man with cerebral palsy and ADHD, Jordon has been a leading advocate for disability rights, climate justice, and inclusive reform since 2017. His work includes helping establish the Disability Royal Commission and pushing for systemic accessibility across Australian institutions.

     

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    9 November 2025, 1:05 pm
  • 45 minutes 17 seconds
    "Had a couple of gin & tonics and fell pregnant" | Karni Liddell on parenting with disability

    In this episode of the ListenABLE with Karni Liddell she opens up about her incredible journey from being diagnosed with a neuromuscular condition at birth to becoming a world class Paralympian, advocate, and mother. Karni reflects on her experiences in elite sport, the evolution of disability representation, and the personal challenges that shaped her strength and perspective.

    She speaks candidly about the realities of motherhood with a disability, the significance of the Paralympics in shifting public perception, and the ongoing fight to ensure people with disabilities are supported and seen.

     

    Follow Karni:

    https://www.instagram.com/karniliddell/

    https://au.linkedin.com/in/karniliddell

     

    Key Takeaways
    • Karni was diagnosed at birth with a neuromuscular wasting disease and was told she wouldn't live a long life.
    • Sport became a powerful avenue for confidence, independence, and connection.
    • The Paralympic movement has transformed dramatically over the past 25 years.
    • Motherhood brought new purpose along with new challenges.
    • Visibility and media representation play a critical role in changing perceptions.

    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
    05:37 Karni Liddell’s Journey with Disability
    18:38 Motherhood and Disability
    24:39 Celebrating 25 Years of the Paralympics
    25:39 Reflections on the 1996 Paralympics
    28:11 The Impact of Sydney 2000
    30:00 The Evolution of Disability Representation
    32:54 The Future of Paralympic Sports
    35:39 Challenges and Triumphs in Swimming
    37:30 The New Generation of Paralympians
    40:10 Representation in Media and Personal Identity

    Karni Liddell, Paralympian, disability advocacy, motherhood, neuromuscular disease, Paralympic movement, representation, inclusion, athlete stories, resilience

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    26 October 2025, 1:05 pm
  • 34 minutes 59 seconds
    "I went surfing yesterday" | Shark Attack to Snowboarder with Sean Pollard

    In this episode of Listenable, hosts Angus O'Loughlin and Dylan Alcott sit down with Sean Pollard, a para snowboarder and shark attack survivor whose story embodies resilience, courage, and reinvention. Sean opens up about the life-changing moment in 2014 when he lost both arms to a shark attack, and how he transformed that trauma into motivation—becoming an elite athlete with his sights set on the Paralympics.

    The conversation explores the emotional and physical recovery process, the role of mindset in overcoming adversity, and how Sean found freedom and purpose through snowboarding. It’s an inspiring discussion about identity, adaptability, and redefining what’s possible after loss.

    Key Takeaways

    • Dylan Alcott hints at a potential comeback to tennis.

    • Sean Pollard introduces himself as a para snowboarder.

    • Sean lost both arms in a shark attack in 2014.

    • He uses a split hook prosthetic for daily activities.

    • Sean prefers the hook over an electronic hand for versatility.

    • He recalls the traumatic details of the shark attack.

    • Sean stresses the power of mindset in recovery.

    • He found freedom and purpose through snowboarding.

    • Sean is training for the upcoming Paralympics.

    • He reflects on how the attack reshaped his identity and outlook on life.

    Chapters

    00:00 — Introduction and Comeback Discussion
    02:01 — Meet Sean Pollard: A Snowboarder’s Journey
    05:53 — The Shark Attack Experience
    11:51 — Life After the Attack: Adapting to Disability
    17:23 — Snowboarding: Finding Freedom on the Slopes
    23:30 — Preparing for the Paralympics
    29:20 — Reflections on Identity and Life Lessons

     

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    12 October 2025, 1:05 pm
  • 33 minutes 38 seconds
    ParaMatildas Captain Carly Salmon | Life with Cerebral Palsy

    In this episode of ListenABLE, hosts Dylan Alcott and Angus O’Loughlin sit down with Carly Salmon – athlete, teacher, and captain of the Para Matildas. Carly opens up about her journey with cerebral palsy, how sport shaped her identity, and why representation in disability sport matters now more than ever.

    From her early years in athletics to leading Australia’s Para Matildas, Carly shares the highs and lows of competing, teaching, and empowering others. She reflects on the impact of women’s football, the importance of mental health in sport, and her mission to inspire young people to see their disabilities as strengths.

    Follow their journey:

    Carly's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carlysalmon

    ParaMatildas: https://www.instagram.com/paramatildas/ 

    Para Volley: https://www.instagram.com/ausparavolley/ 

     

    Key Takeaways

    • Diagnosed with cerebral palsy at 18 months, Carly has grown into a leader in sport and education.

    • Represented Australia in athletics before transitioning into football.

    • Captain of the Para Matildas, leading by example on and off the field.

    • Teaching is central to her advocacy – showing kids that disability doesn’t limit potential.

    • Women’s football’s rise has created more visibility and momentum for para athletes.

    • Advocates strongly for funding and support to grow para sports in Australia.

    • Believes sport is a powerful way to build identity, community, and empowerment.

    Chapters

    00:00 – Introduction to the Podcast and Guests
    03:09 – Carly Salmon's Journey with Cerebral Palsy
    05:55 – Teaching and Impact on Students
    08:59 – Realizations of Disability in School
    11:43 – Finding Strength in Disability
    14:46 – Transitioning from Athletics to Football
    17:49 – Leadership in Team Sports
    20:44 – The Rise of Women's Football and Its Impact
    23:49 – Pride in Disability Beyond Sports
    26:37 – Future Goals for the Para Matildas
    29:56 – Addressing Funding and Support for Para Sports

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    28 September 2025, 2:05 pm
  • 28 minutes 8 seconds
    Oliver Morton-Evans on equal rights to intimacy, connection, and inclusion | #132
    1. In this episode of ListenABLe, we explore the complex and often overlooked connection between disability and sexuality with guest Oliver Morton Evans, a leading disability and sexuality advocate. Oliver shares his personal story of growing up with cerebral palsy, the unique challenges of navigating intimacy, dating, and relationships, and how accessibility barriers continue to shape the lives of people with disabilities. The conversation dives into the role of sex work, the impact of recent NDIS funding changes, and the importance of advocacy to ensure equal rights to intimacy, connection, and inclusion.

     

    Hire him to model your clothes or brand: https://theright.fit/talent/oliver-m-1 

    Connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivermorton-evans 

    Get your ‘Sambrella’ here: https://sammysworldofcolour.com/products/sambrella 

    Watch the Full Episode with Captions Here: https://youtu.be/HqevPrCAUNo

    Recorded, edited and produced by Angus' Podcast Company: www.sessioninprogress.com.au

     

    Key Takeaways

    • Conversations around disability and sexuality should be normalised and accessible.

    • Oliver Morton Evans is a passionate advocate for inclusion in dating, relationships, and intimacy.

    • Growing up with cerebral palsy created significant barriers to forming intimate connections.

    • In pursuit of learning intimacy, Oliver once joined a meetup group that revealed itself as a sex cult.

    • Accessibility in both social and sexual spaces remains a major challenge.

    • Recent NDIS restrictions limit funding for sexual services, affecting many in the disability community.

    • Sex work can play a vital role in providing connection, intimacy, and advocacy for people with disabilities.

    • There is a pressing need for better sex education that is inclusive of people with disabilities.

    • Oliver has produced erotic film content showcasing disabled bodies and intimacy to challenge stigma.

    • Advocacy continues for the right of people with disabilities to access sexual expression and services.

    Chapters

    00:00 – Introduction to Disability and Sexuality Conversations
    02:11 – Oliver's Journey and Advocacy in Disability
    07:19 – Navigating Intimacy and Dating as a Person with Disability
    12:50 – Accessibility Challenges in Social and Sexual Spaces
    18:59 – The Role of Sex Work in Disability Advocacy
    23:46 – Funding and Support for Sexual Services in Disability
    26:04 – Future Aspirations and Ongoing Advocacy

     

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    7 September 2025, 2:05 pm
  • 34 minutes 30 seconds
    Sara Shams on Disability Advocacy, Representation & the Evolution of Prosthetics

    In this episode of the ListenABLE podcast, hosts Angus and Dylan sit down with Sara Shams — a pharmacist, model, and disability advocate — to share her inspiring journey as a bilateral above-knee amputee living with the rare genetic condition tibial hemimelia.

    Sara opens up about her early life and multiple surgeries, how advances in prosthetics technology have shaped her independence, and the confidence she’s built through advocacy and representation in media. The conversation dives into cultural perspectives on disability, the impact of the Shift 20 initiative on increasing authentic representation, and how brands can move beyond tokenism to embrace true inclusion.

    From breaking into the modelling industry to launching consultancy work for accessible runways, Sara shares the importance of personal choice in mobility aids, resilience in the face of stigma, and the power of visibility in changing perceptions.

    What You’ll Learn:

    • How prosthetic advancements are transforming independence and mobility.

    • Why authentic representation matters for the disability community.

    • The business and social impact of the Shift 20 initiative.

    • How to address tokenism through education and cultural change.

    • The role of confidence, resilience, and personal choice in disability advocacy.

     

    Get in contact with Sara: https://sarashams.au/ 

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarashams

    Watch the Full Episode with Captions Here: https://youtu.be/ux5keqFJjTM 

    Recorded, edited and produced by Angus' Podcast Company: www.sessioninprogress.com.au

     

    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guests
    03:00 Sara Shams: A Journey Through Disability
    05:53 Understanding Tibial Hemimelia and Its Impact
    08:56 Surgical Journey and Early Life Experiences
    12:04 Evolution of Prosthetics and Technology
    15:01 Building Confidence and Embracing Disability
    17:54 Cultural Perspectives on Disability
    18:25 The Journey into Modeling
    21:37 Advocacy through Shift 20 Initiative
    22:42 Navigating Tokenism and Authentic Representation
    26:51 Launching her Consultancy
    30:16 The Balance of Representation and Tokenism

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    17 August 2025, 2:05 pm
  • 38 minutes 37 seconds
    Jessica Horner (Neurodivergent Journalist & has Multiple Medical Disabilities) #129

    In today's episode of ListenABLE, we’re joined by Jessica Horner, a neurodivergent journalist and policy advisor living with autism, ADHD, and multiple medical disabilities. Jessica offers a powerful and deeply personal conversation about what it means to navigate life and work through the lens of disability and neurodivergence.

    Together, we explore the dynamic nature of disability and how traditional models often fall short of recognising the full spectrum of lived experience. From unpacking the emotional and physical toll of masking and autistic burnout, to examining the recent rise in ADHD diagnoses, Jessica reflects on the evolving language, systems, and stigmas surrounding neurodivergence.

    We also delve into how medical disabilities intersect with mental health, the role of support systems, and the importance of creating safer spaces for disclosure, especially in workplaces where harassment and bias remain widespread. Drawing from her background in journalism, Jessica discusses how the media shapes public perception of disability and why self-diagnosis is a valid and vital part of identity for many.

    This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in disability advocacy, inclusive mental health practices, and challenging the assumptions we make about what disability looks like.

    Trigger Warning: Themes of Suicide Discussed

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    Watch the Full Episode with Captions Here: https://youtu.be/4yAC4QLQ1ec

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    3 August 2025, 2:05 pm
  • 32 minutes 52 seconds
    Kellie Forrest (Psychologist with Cerebral Palsy ) #129

    In this episode of ListenABLE, registered psychologist Kellie Forrest shares her experiences living with cerebral palsy and working in mental health. As both a parent and a professional, Kellie provides insight into how internalised ableism, societal attitudes, and systemic gaps impact people with disability in day-to-day life.

    Kellie speaks candidly about parenting with a disability, navigating hospitals and schools, and the assumptions she’s encountered as a disabled parent. She reflects on how these experiences intersect with her work as a psychologist, where she supports neurodivergent clients and applies trauma-informed and behaviour support frameworks.

    The conversation dives into the complexity of the NDIS, including inconsistent access to support and difficulties with innovative treatments. Kellie also recounts her personal experience with a car accident and the barriers faced during the insurance claims process—especially when dealing with modified vehicles.

    Throughout the episode, Dylan and Angus explore how lived experience can shape professional practice, and why representation within psychology and healthcare matters.

    Want to contact Kellie? Reach out to her clinic: [email protected]

    Watch the Full Episode with Captions Here: https://youtu.be/Yul1SVSnomA

    Grab our first merch release at our website Session in Progress.
    https://fromyourpocket.com.au/work/listenable/merch

    Recorded, edited and produced by Angus' Podcast Company: www.sessioninprogress.com.au

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    13 July 2025, 2:05 pm
  • 22 minutes 25 seconds
    Rita Havea (Model & Advocate with Charcot-Marie-Tooth) #128

    In this episode of ListenABLE, Angus O'Loughlin and Dylan Alcott are  joined by Rita Havea, a model, content creator and disability advocate living with Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease (CMT), a progressive genetic neuromuscular condition,

    "Went and saw a genetic counsellor, linked myself to CMT support groups, did as much research as possible,'cause I felt that made me feel stronger in myself".

    The conversation also delves into how disability can affect family dynamics, particularly when conditions go unrecognised across generations. Rita reflects on her mother’s undiagnosed CMT and how this shaped their family’s understanding of disability.

    As someone working within the fashion and creative industries as a model/creator, Rita shares her perspective on disability representation in media and modelling, and why change often feels cosmetic rather than structural. She also touches on genetic counselling, community support, and her shift towards creative direction and public speaking.

    This episode offers a grounded conversation about disability, inclusion and identity — avoiding clichés and focusing instead on lived experience, structural barriers, and the importance of visibility that goes beyond aesthetics.

    Want to see more of Rita and her work? Check our the links below!

    Watch the Full Episode with Captions Here: https://youtu.be/0YKK4wE4ViM

    Grab our first merch release at our website Session in Progress.
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    29 June 2025, 9:25 pm
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