In this episode of the Preacher Boys podcast, Eric Skwarczynski sits down with Dr. Diane Langberg, a psychologist with over 50 years of experience, to discuss her new book, "When the Church Harms God's People." Dr. Langberg shares her insights on trauma, abuse within faith communities, and the importance of prioritizing individual well-being over institutional success. Drawing from her extensive experience, she offers practical advice for pastors, ministry leaders, and individuals seeking to create safer and healthier church environments.

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Eric Skwarczynski continues his conversation with Hannah St. George, a survivor of religious fundamentalism. Hannah shares more harrowing details of her experiences within Bible Baptist Church in Fairbanks, Alaska, focusing on the period leading up to her marriage and the disturbing secrets she began to uncover. Hannah discusses the controlling dynamics within her family, the rigidity of the church, and its shocking mishandling of sexual abuse cases.

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Marc Maron’s comedy special, End Times Fun, touches on a very real issue – the way many evangelical Christians view the end of the world. In this clip, which recently went viral on TikTok, Maron breaks down why evangelical end-times beliefs scare him, especially since many of these believers hold political power.

In this episode, Eric and Tia Levings dive deep into this topic, reacting to Maron’s take and discussing Tia’s recent article, Evangelical MAGAs Want an Apocalypse to Wipe Out Unhumans. We explore how end-times theology influences everything from government policy to environmental issues and even personal health choices.

As two ex-fundamentalists, we bring firsthand experience to this conversation, and let’s just say… we have thoughts.

Topics Covered in This Episode:

– Marc Maron’s thoughts on evangelicals and end-times prophecy

– The connection between fundamentalism, politics, and climate denial

– Why some evangelicals want the world to end

– The real-life consequences of end-times theology

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Tia Levings (@TiaLevingsWriter) is a writer and speaker who exposes the realities of Christian fundamentalism and evangelical patriarchy. She’s been featured in Salon, The Huffington Post, The New York Times, and the Amazon docuseries Shiny Happy People. Her upcoming memoir, A Well-Trained Wife, released on August 6, 2024.

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Read about growing up within a patriarchal fundamentalist religion from a female perspective:

https://open.substack.com/pub/thebubbleverse/p/cant-keep-sweet?r=2xfl7u&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true 

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Bill Maher recently took aim at Nike’s Super Bowl commercial, which celebrated the growth and resilience of female athletes despite constant adversity and culturally-imposed limitations.The ad was narrated by rapper Doechii and featured nine female athletes: Jordan Chiles, Caitlin Clark, A’ja Wilson, JuJu Watkins, Sabrina Ionescu, Alexia Putellas, Aryna Sabalenka, Sha’Carri Richardson and Sophia Smith. It ended with the powerful tagline: “Whatever you do, you can’t win — so win.”

The ad had it’s fair share of praise and critics, with TV host Bill Maher planting his flag in the latter camp.On a recent episode of Real Time with Bill Maher, (airdate 2.14.25), called the message of the commercial a “zombie lie.”

“It means like something used to be true, and it stopped being true. And then people kept saying it. I feel like this is a giant zombie lie,” Maher argued. “I mean, when was the last time a woman was told, ‘You can’t do this? You can’t be confident?’ Who are these imaginary, mean old men of the patriarchy?”

Well, Bill, “the mean old men of the patriarchy” aren’t imaginary. In fact, they are all across America. In fact, many of them are pastors, Sunday school teachers, and some have even started Bible colleges.

When I was growing up in a fundamentalist Christian community, the idea that women could “do anything” was not just discouraged—it was actively opposed.

On my podcast, Preacher Boys, I’ve spent years exposing how religious institutions—particularly in Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) circles—perpetuate strict and archaic gender roles. These roles aren’t just suggestions in that world. They are codified into church doctrine, college curricula, and life expectations.

Take Hyles-Anderson College, one of the more well-known IFB institutions. While men at the school can pursue theological degrees, pastoral studies, and climb their way into powerful leadership roles, women are encouraged to enroll in programs like Marriage and Motherhood. (Yes, that’s an actual college course.)

The curriculum includes credits for “Canning and Freezing,” “How to Rear Infants,” “Scheduling Your Time,” and, my personal favorite, “Crock Pot Cooking.”Notably absent? Any track leading to ordination, church leadership, or even a career outside of traditional homemaking.

The highest aspiration for many young women at these colleges isn’t earning a degree but earning a husband. It’s become a regular joke in these circles that “instead of a BS or PHD, young women go to college for their “MRS” degree!” Hardy har har.

To claim that patriarchal control is a thing of the past is to ignore millions of women who are still being told exactly what they can’t do. It’s to dismiss the experiences of women who are not allowed to preach, lead, or even work outside the home without backlash. It’s to erase the reality of those raised in communities where obedience and submission aren’t just encouraged but mandated. It’s to ignore the fact that 83% of women in ministry positions are not paid.

It’s bizarre to see Bill Maher, who has made a point to criticize fundamentalist religion in his stand-up, talk show, and an entire documentary, fails to consider the ongoing struggles of women still trapped in these systems.

In churches across America, women being held down by the patriarchy isn’t a “zombie lie.” It’s a nightmarish reality.

Sorry, Bill—you missed the mark on this one.

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In this episode of The Preacher Boys Podcast, Eric Skwarczynski interviews Hannah St. George about her experiences growing up in the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement and the Bible Baptist Church of Fairbanks, Alaska. Hannah shares her story of resilience in the face of religious, familial and social pressures. She discusses the financial struggles of her family, the strict expectations of the church, and the inconsistencies in her home life, including her mother's mental health challenges and the complex dynamics with men in the church. Hannah also recounts instances of abuse and manipulation, as well as her journey to finding her own identity and breaking free from the IFB.

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MorningStar Fellowship Church is facing multiple lawsuits regarding the alleged mishandling of sexual abuse allegations.

These lawsuits claim that leaders at MorningStar failed to report allegations of sexual abuse to law enforcement and did not take appropriate precautions to protect children.

Today I'm interviewing attorney Randy Hood, whose firm is working with the victims in this case.

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Beth Allison Barr is the U.S.A. Today’s bestselling author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. An academic by training and a pastor’s wife by calling, Beth uses her unique voice to speak out on the relevance of medieval history to our modern world—especially concerning women in both medieval and modern Christianity. Her work is described as “smart,” “powerful,” and “a game changer” for women in modern evangelicalism. 

Barr is currently the James Vardaman Professor of History at Baylor University, where she teaches both undergraduate and graduate courses, but she also speaks and writes as a public intellectual. She has been featured by NPR and The New Yorker, and her bylines include Religion News Service, The Washington Post, Christianity Today, The Dallas Morning News, Sojourners, and Baptist News Global. She also continues to write regularly on The Anxious Bench, a popular religious history blog on Patheos.

As a pastor's wife for twenty-five years, Beth Allison Barr has lived with assumptions about what she should do and who she should be.

In Becoming the Pastor's Wife, Barr draws on that experience and her academic expertise to trace the history of the role of the pastor's wife, showing how it both helped and hurt women in conservative Protestant traditions. While they gained an important leadership role, it came at a deep cost: losing independent church leadership opportunities that existed throughout most of church history and strengthening a gender hierarchy that prioritized male careers.

Barr examines the connection between the decline of female ordination and the rise of the role of pastor's wife in the evangelical church, tracing its patterns in the larger history (ancient, medieval, Reformation, and modern) of Christian women's leadership. By expertly blending historical and personal narrative, she equips pastors' wives to better advocate for themselves while helping the church understand the origins of the role as well as the historical reality of ordained women.

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In this episode, we discuss the investigative report released relating to Mike Bickle and the International House of Prayer in Kansas City.

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A Florida Bible teacher, known for preaching "Christian morality" online and accusing LGBTQ+ people of being "groomers," has been arrested for allegedly molesting a middle schooler in his classroom.

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In this episode, we discuss two shocking stories of abuse within Baptist churches:

Sources referenced:

McDowell County Sheriff's Office statement (January 17, 2025) | https://www.facebook.com/mcdowellsheriff/posts/994339382725330

The Christian Post article by Ryan Foley

https://www.christianpost.com/news/pastor-charged-for-stealing-from-churchs-hurricane-relief-fund.html

Cowboy State Daily article by David Madison (January 23, 2025)

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/01/23/montana-pastor-used-his-karate-lessons-to-sexually-assault-at-least-one-child/

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About the guest:

Liz Charlotte Grant is an award-winning nonfiction writer based in Colorado, USA.

In 2024, she wrote a viral review of two biographies, chronicling the disturbing third marriage of white American evangelical "purity culture" icon, Elisabeth Elliot, for the Revealer Magazine. (See "Elisabeth Elliot, Flawed Queen of Purity Culture, and Her Disturbing Third Marriage," the Revealer Magazine, a publication of the Center for Religion and Media at New York University).

Her Substack newsletter, the Empathy List, has received recognition from the Webby Awards and the Best of the Church Press Awards. Her essays have won 3rd place in Dappled Things magazine’s Jacques Maritain Prize for Nonfiction (in 2019 and 2022), and she's also been awarded two Collegeville Institute residencies.

Her op-eds and stories have also been published in outlets such as the Huffington Post, Religion News Service, Hippocampus Magazine, Brevity, Sojourners, the Christian Century, Christianity Today, US Catholic, National Catholic Reporter, and more.

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Book description:

In the beginning was a work of art.

 

What does Bible study look like after inerrancy? Do you have to give up studying Scripture when you no longer believe in its literal interpretation? Can you still believe this book is sacred even while renegotiating your relationship to the church? In Knock at the Sky, Liz Charlotte Grant offers compelling answers to these questions and more in this deeply personal commentary on the book of Genesis.

 

Braiding together encounters with the natural world, Jewish midrash, and art criticism, Grant makes familiar Sunday school stories strange and offers a fresh vision for reading Scripture after deconstruction. For those who have known the book of Genesis as a weapon in the culture wars, Grant interprets the Bible’s inspired book of beginnings as a work of art. Lyrical, insightful, and highly original, Knock at the Sky offers readers a capacious model for seeking God through Scripture even as one’s faith continues to evolve.

 

“In this book, you too have permission to question the sacred without fearing . . . unbelief. Knock loudly. . . . Reject answers that do not admit complication. Seek the resonance at the base of the story. The seeking is the point. Because there, in your wandering, God is.”

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