What if the biggest thing standing between you and the life you want isn't a lack of confidence, credentials, experience, or readiness? What if it's the invisible rules you've been following without ever questioning them?

In this episode of This Is Woman’s Work, Nicole sits down with Cate Hall—former Supreme Court attorney, former #1 ranked female poker player in the world, biotech founder, former CEO of the Astera Institute, and author of You Can Just Do Things: How High Agency People Get What They Want Out of Life. Together, they unpack the concept of high agency, why successful people aren't waiting for permission, and how fear of rejection, failure, and embarrassment may be keeping you stuck.

In This Episode We Discuss:

• What it means to be a high agency person

• Why most of the "rules" we follow are actually invisible agreements

• The art of getting what you don't deserve—and why that's a good thing

• How fear of rejection limits personal and professional growth… and why rejection is a necessary part of success

• Practical ways to build rejection tolerance

• The connection between identity and personal transformation

• How strengths can become weaknesses when taken too far

• The "moat of low status" and why people avoid being beginners

• Why women often struggle with looking inexperienced—and how to overcome it

Cate's message is simple but powerful: you don't need more permission, more credentials, or more certainty. Sometimes, you just need to do the thing.

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When a powerful man says, “She’s not my type,” and a jury (actually, multiple juries) finds that man liable for sexual abuse and defamation, that’s not just a headline — that’s a masterclass in what it takes for a woman to be believed in America.

In this episode, writer, journalist, and Not My Type: One Woman vs. a President author E. Jean Carroll joins Nicole to talk about truth, power, paperclips, and what actually happens when you drag a president into court and win. Twice.

We talk about the facts, the stories we build around those facts, and why so many people will twist themselves into a pretzel to excuse powerful men while shredding women who speak up.

We get into:

• What actually happened in court — beyond the headlines, hot takes, and Twitter warriors

• How clothes became her armor and why what she wore in court mattered more than you’d think

• The “not my type” moment, the infamous deposition photo, and how Trump accidentally proved his own lie

• Why her sexual history was dragged into the trial — and how she took back that narrative with joy

• Trauma responses, laughter in the dressing room, and why “if you didn’t scream it doesn’t count” is garbage

• How mock juries forced her legal team to reckon with ageism, beauty standards, and who we think is “believable”

• What she plans to do with the tens of millions awarded in damages — and why giving it away is part of her resistance strategy

• The big questions this case raises: What does a woman have to do to be believed? And what does a powerful man have to do to be held accountable? 

Because this isn’t just E. Jean Carroll’s story. It’s a mirror held up to how we treat women, power, and truth — and a reminder that one 80-something woman can still change the story for all of us.

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For generations, parents have been told that picky eating is normal, inevitable, and just part of raising kids. But what if that's not true? What if picky eating is actually a modern phenomenon—and one we've unintentionally created?

In this episode, Nicole sits down with historian, professor, and author Helen Zoe Veit to explore the surprising history behind children's eating habits. Drawing from her book Picky: How American Children Became the Fussiest Eaters in History, Helen reveals how kids once ate everything from bitter greens to spicy foods and why modern parenting, nutrition advice, convenience foods, and fear-based messaging may have changed that. Together, they unpack what parents can learn from history, how to build curiosity around food, and why confidence—not control—may be the missing ingredient at the dinner table.

In This Episode We Discuss:

• Why picky eating is a relatively recent phenomenon in American history

• How children in the 19th century developed adventurous palates

• The role of nutrition science in changing children's diets

• Why modern parents feel so much pressure around food and feeding

• The difference between food neophobia and true picky eating

• How repeated exposure helps children learn to enjoy new foods

• Why separate "kids' meals" may be contributing to the problem

• The impact of snacks, convenience foods, and ultra-processed foods

• How confidence and consistency can transform family mealtimes

• The connection between food, curiosity, joy, and lifelong health

This conversation is a powerful reminder that children may be capable of far more than we give them credit for—and that curiosity, resilience, and openness can all be nurtured one bite at a time.

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Here’s the truth: Raising emotionally intelligent kids isn’t about making sure they say “please” and “thank you.” It’s about raising little humans who can actually handle big feelings, express themselves without melting down (well, most of the time), and build relationships that don’t implode at the first sign of conflict.

Emotional intelligence (EQ) is the underrated superpower that will serve your kids long after they’ve forgotten their multiplication tables. From playground drama to career success to healthy adult relationships, EQ is the thread that ties it all together. And while it doesn’t come with a manual (seriously, why don’t hospitals hand that out with the newborn onesie?), there are some universal truths every parent needs to know.

To help us break it down, we’re joined by Alyssa Blask Campbell. With years of experience teaching parents and kids how to build emotional awareness, resilience, and connection, Alyssa has made it her mission to help families thrive from the inside out. In this conversation, she shares practical strategies, science-backed insights, and the FACTS about what it really takes to raise kids who can navigate their emotions (instead of being ruled by them).

Because let’s be honest: you don’t just want your kids to be successful — you want them to be good humans. And that starts with emotional intelligence.

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Leadership has never been more challenging—or more important. In a world defined by constant disruption, AI, economic uncertainty, global conflict, and nonstop change, the old leadership playbook is showing its age. The leaders who thrive today aren’t the ones with all the answers. They’re the ones willing to ask better questions, challenge their assumptions, and expand their perspective.

In this episode, Nicole sits down with Cornelia Choe, international leadership expert, CEO of Leaders Alliance, and co-author of The Panoramic Leader with Marshall Goldsmith. Having advised CEOs, Fortune 500 executives, and government leaders across five continents, Cornelia brings a global lens to what effective leadership requires today.

In This Episode, We Discuss:

• What Panoramic Leadership is and why it matters now more than ever

• Why today's leaders are facing unprecedented levels of change and uncertainty

• The hidden dangers of operating on autopilot

• How to identify and update your personal "mental map"

• Why curiosity, humility, and adaptability are critical leadership skills

• The power of seeking perspectives that challenge your own beliefs

• How blind spots impact decision-making and organizational success

• Cornelia's GEM Framework:

  • Get Up Close

  • Establish Meaningful Bonds

  • Map Your Evolving Perspective

• Why command-and-control leadership is becoming increasingly ineffective

• How leaders can create environments where honest feedback thrives

Leadership isn't about having the loudest voice in the room. It's about having the widest lens. As change accelerates and complexity grows, the leaders who succeed will be those willing to continuously learn, evolve, and see beyond their own experience.

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We live in a world that talks over people instead of listening to them. Debate has replaced understanding. Volume gets rewarded over vulnerability. And somehow, we’ve confused interrupting with intelligence.

In this episode, we’re flipping the script. Because deep listening—the kind that transforms relationships, diffuses conflict, and actually builds connection—isn’t soft. It’s a power skill. A leadership skill. A humanity-saving skill.

And there’s no one better to guide us through the how than today’s guest…

Our guide today is Emily Kasriel, award-winning journalist, former BBC executive, and creator of the Deep Listening approach. With two decades of media experience, a role as Senior Visiting Research Fellow at King’s College London, and a new book (Deep Listening: Transform Your Relationships with Family, Friends and Foes), Emily is here to show us how to stop talking... and actually hear each other.

Listening—truly listening—isn’t passive. It’s active, intentional, and strong as hell. And in a culture that values being loud over being present, choosing to listen might just be the most rebellious, relationship-healing thing we can do.

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For years, conversations about gender equity at work have been framed as a women's issue. But what if that's the wrong conversation entirely? What if the real challenge isn't fixing women so they can survive outdated systems—but fixing the systems themselves?

In this episode, Nicole sits down with Dr. David Smith and Dr. Brad Johnson, co-authors of Fair Share: How Men and Women Can Create a More Equitable Workplace Together, to unpack what true gender fairness looks like in today's workplace. Together, they explore why gender equity benefits everyone, how outdated workplace norms are hurting both women and men, and what leaders can do to create workplaces where people can thrive professionally and personally.

This conversation challenges zero-sum thinking, dismantles harmful workplace myths, and offers practical strategies for building more equitable organizations—without pitting one gender against another.

In This Episode We Discuss:

• What gender fairness actually means—and why it's not the same as treating everyone exactly the same

• Why gender equity benefits men, women, organizations, and families

• The myth that gender fairness requires men to lose in order for women to win

• Why workplace equity is a leadership responsibility, not a women's initiative

• How caregiving expectations impact career advancement for both women and men

• Why flexibility, caregiving support, and pay transparency matter

• The role leaders play in creating inclusive and equitable workplaces

Gender fairness isn't about giving one group an advantage—it's about creating workplaces that reflect how people actually live, work, lead, and care today. When organizations stop trying to fix individuals and start fixing outdated systems, everyone benefits.

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Why have we become so obsessed with celebrity and influence? It seems we’re infatuated with people in positions of power, with politicians, and with the uber-wealthy. Are they really the difference-makers we believe them to be?

In this episode, Sharon McMahon talks about the change-makers that she calls the “small and the mighty”. Sharon is America’s favorite government teacher and proves that the most remarkable Americans are often ordinary people who didn’t make it into the textbooks. In her book THE SMALL AND THE MIGHTY: Twelve Unsung Americans Who Changed the Course of History, Sharon discovers history’s unsung characters and brings their rich, riveting stories to light for the first time. She also hosts the award-winning podcast,  ”Here’s Where It Gets Interesting”, and is the author of The Preamble, a Substack newsletter about politics and history. 

The change agent, the innovator, the reformer, the disruptor, the mover and the shaker, the get shit done leader might not be on the ballot – it might be someone in your life, at work, in your community. You might be raising them, and it might even be you.

So be mighty – regardless of the position you’re in.

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We talk a lot about people-pleasing, perfectionism, overachieving, anxiety, and self-doubt. But what if those aren’t actually the root problem? What if they’re symptoms of something deeper, heavier, and far more hidden?

In this episode, Nicole sits down with Dr. Zoe Shaw — licensed psychotherapist, relationship coach, speaker, podcast host, and author of Stronger in the Difficult Places — to unpack the uncomfortable but life-changing topic of complex shame. Not the fleeting embarrassment kind. The deep, identity-level shame that quietly shapes how we see ourselves, what we believe we deserve, and how small or safe we allow ourselves to play in life.

Dr. Zoe shares her own deeply personal story and explains how shame develops, how it disguises itself as “normal” behavior, and why healing requires more than just positive affirmations and surface-level self-help. This conversation dives into trauma, self-worth, people-pleasing, boundaries, vulnerability, confirmation bias, and the stories we carry about ourselves — often without realizing it.

In This Episode, We Explore:

• The difference between guilt, shame, and complex shame

• Why people-pleasing and perfectionism may actually be rooted in shame

• How shame shapes identity, relationships, and self-worth

• The hidden ways women learn to hide themselves

• Why overachieving can become a coping mechanism

• The “phantom critic” vs. the “courageous truth teller”

• Why healing starts with honesty, not toxic positivity

• Practical first steps for untangling deep shame patterns

• How vulnerability helps shame lose its power

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Resilience has become a buzzword in today’s culture, thrown around by influencers, coaches, and even bootcamp instructors, all insisting we need to “push through” no matter the cost. But is resilience always the healthiest path forward? Does mental toughness, positivity, and grit serve us in the ways we think—or is there more nuance to uncover?

In this episode, Nicole connects with Soraya Chemaly, activist and author of The Resilience Myth: New Thinking on Grit, Strength, and Growth after Trauma. Together, they challenge conventional ideas about resilience and explore a new way of thinking—one that shifts from individual grit to collective care and community connection. Soraya’s previous book, Rage Becomes Her: The Power of Women’s Anger, was widely acclaimed and named one of the Best Books of 2018 by the Washington Post, NPR, and Psychology Today.

This conversation offers insight into what really matters: kindness, compassion, belonging, and care—for ourselves and each other. It’s time to rethink resilience as more than just strength in isolation and embrace what it looks like to thrive, together.

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We’ve been taught that success means pushing harder, doing more, and staying productive at all costs. But what if the real secret to sustainable success isn’t grinding harder — it’s learning how to pace yourself?

In this episode, Nicole sits down with award-winning journalist and author Elizabeth Svoboda to unpack the science, psychology, and strategy behind pacing. From elite athletes to ambitious women juggling careers, relationships, and impossible expectations, this conversation explores why burnout isn’t proof of dedication — it’s often proof that something needs to change.

Elizabeth shares how elite performers actually use rest, recovery, flexibility, and energy management to stay at the top of their game for the long haul. Together, Nicole and Elizabeth challenge hustle culture, perfectionism, and the toxic belief that women should operate at 110% all the time.

They discuss:

• Why ambitious women tend to swing between overworking and complete exhaustion

• The surprising pacing lessons we can learn from Olympic athletes

• How burnout impacts confidence, relationships, health, and creativity

• The concept of “rigid flexibility” and why structure alone doesn’t work

• Why rest should match effort — not just be treated as a reward

• How to recognize your personal energy rhythms and work with them instead of against them

• The connection between pacing, longevity, and sustainable success

• Why slowing down can actually make you more effective, focused, and fulfilled

Because constantly running yourself into the ground isn’t strength — it’s just a socially rewarded form of self-destruction.

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