Bitcoin, finance, technology
In this episode of Ungovernable Misfits: PMM, Max & Jon discuss the world of raw milk, exploring its history, benefits, and the controversies surrounding its consumption. Max & Jon begin by discussing the Yamnaya people and their influence on European lactose tolerance, highlighting how pastoral societies have historically consumed raw milk. The conversation shifts to the industrial revolution and the introduction of pasteurization, driven by public health concerns and industrial interests. Max & Jon explore the arguments for and against raw milk, considering the nutritional benefits and potential risks such as E. coli and Listeria. The episode also touches on the cultural and economic implications of choosing raw milk over pasteurized options, encouraging listeners to connect with local farmers and consider the broader impact of their food choices. Throughout the discussion, Max & Jon reflect on the balance between tradition and modernity in our dietary habits, questioning the necessity of sterile food environments and advocating for a return to more natural, community-based food systems.
MUSIC
Shimmy Shimmy Ya - Ol' Dirty Bastard
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ALTAIR TECHNOLOGIES
Altair Tech is your one-stop shop for pleb mining supplies. They carry Bitaxes, Urlacher Conversion Kits, Bitmain Antminers, Shrouds, etc. Anything you can think of when it comes to Bitcoin Mining :).
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BIFROST MANUFACTURING
Bifrost Manufacturing offers custom and mass-produced manufacturing services like CNC Plasma Cutting, Water Jet Cutting, Industrial and Consumer FDM services, DMLS printing, Welding and Fabrication, and product design and engineering. They also work with local educational institutions to help manufacture parts for various STEM programs.
LAKE SATOSHI
Lake Satoshi is a private lake located on 130 acres of land in Mid-Michigan. Originally a gravel pit, Lake Satoshi has since evolved into a tranquil oasis for those who love the great outdoors and Bitcoin culture.
With the growing popularity of Bitcoin, Lake Satoshi has become a hub for like-minded individuals to network, camp, collaborate, and enjoy all that the property has to offer.
The Annual Lake Satoshi Retreat is a unique weekend-long event in August (8/02). Friday you can freelance and enjoy dinner on us! Saturday is the main event, packed full of BBQ and opportunities to learn about Bitcoin.
(00:00:00) We're Square Body Guys
(00:04:28) Thanking the Big Ballers
(00:10:40) INTRO
(00:15:33) BOOSTS
(00:29:49) Raw Milk Talk Commences
(00:31:55) The History of Lactose Tolerance and Pastoral Cultures
(00:39:26) The Rise of Pasteurization and Industrial Dairy
(00:45:44) Fear and Propaganda in the Crossroads
(00:49:33) Potential Fears of Raw Milk
(00:57:05) The Nutritional Superiority of Raw Milk
(01:03:36) Bullding Trust with Local Farmers
(01:12:40) Raw Milk > Pasteurized Milk DYOR
(01:22:27) BIFROST MANUFACTURING
(01:26:11) ALTAIR
(01:32:41) LAKE SATOSHI
(01:35:20) I Like It Raw
Welcome to the The Confab, the term derives from "confidential talk", which was commonly used in the Prohibition Era for meetings and conversations that took place in the smoky, rule-breaking speakeasies of that time.
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https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
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Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
CAKE WALLET
https://cakewallet.com
Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.
Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.
Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.
Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.
Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!
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(00:00) INTRO
(01:22) BOOSTS
(02:47) THANK YOU CAKE WALLET
(04:13) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(05:53) Talk Coffee To Me
(07:04) Fountain's Journey and Achievements
(08:57) Fountain's Goals and Vision
(12:18) Podcast Discovery and Social Features
(18:25) The Transition to Nostr
(35:14) The Importance of an Open Podcasting Ecosystem
(43:14) Key Management Concerns
(54:10) Max's Improvement Proposals
(58:44) Keep on Building, Fountain.
FOUNDATION
https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
CAKE WALLET
https://cakewallet.com
Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.
Features:
- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.
- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.
Monero Users:
- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.
- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights
- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.
Bitcoin Users:
- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.
- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses
- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.
Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!
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(00:00:00) INTRO
(00:00:57) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(00:01:59) Health Check
(00:04:53) My Timeline is in Shambles
(00:07:58) Foundation PSA
(00:08:40) Breaking Things on Start9
(00:18:14) BIG BALLER ANNOUNCEMENT
(00:19:24) New Podcast Sponsor Announcement
(00:23:01) NEWS
(00:23:03) Telegram Privacy Concerns
(00:25:37) EU Chat Control Removed Again
(00:27:09) Roman Storm Will Have a Criminal Trial
(00:32:12) BOLT12 in the Spec
(00:34:33) Tor and Tails Collaboration
(00:41:02) BOOSTS
(00:47:33) UPDATES & RELEASES
(00:47:39) Envoy 1.8.3 Beta
(00:48:58) Alby Go Released
(00:50:40) BitBox Adds Support for Silent Payments
(00:52:05) Volt is the Kit King
(00:53:38) New Zeus Beta Allows For Balance Rescans
(00:54:50) An Update From JAM
(00:56:23) Japanese Export: Diamond Wallet
(00:57:42) Decoy Wallets From Nunchuk
(01:02:11) Amethyst: Tor & Transient Accounts
(01:03:57) MORE BOOSTS
(01:08:14) QUESTIONS
(01:08:16) What is the GOAT Status of Q?
(01:09:22) Is Multisig Too Hard?
(01:12:27) Did HBO Identify Satoshi?
(01:14:26) Have You Played with DarkIRC?
(01:16:17) Any Hope For Privacy?
(01:19:57) Off To Fix My Node...Check Out Cake Wallet
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(00:04) INTRO
(00:41) 👏 Congratulations Ballers 👏
(07:00) Wanna Be A Baller...
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(00:00:00) INTRO
(00:04:19) BOOSTS
(00:26:55) STATISTICS PRESENTED BY LINCOIN AND Lōd
(00:31:00) Lōd Led to 21k/BTC Cost to Mine | STATISTICS
(00:36:49) Hoodie Shill Break
(00:38:56) Am I Gonna Have to Merge Mine!? | STATISTICS
(00:50:54) Our North Dakotah Friends BIFROST MANUFACTURING
(00:57:30) Are You a Shitcoiner?
(01:04:33) STOP, DROP & BOOST
(01:06:37) ACTION NEWS!!!
(01:08:46) Stop Looking At Me, Swan! | ACTION NEWS!!!
(01:19:07) $wan Alleges Former Employees Didn't Respect...Bitcoin Bugle
(01:23:20) ALTAIR: Check Out the New Bitchimney
(01:32:38) ALTAIR: Operation Chokepoint 2.0
(01:36:36) ALTAIR: Max BitAxe Update
(01:41:01) This Shit Is Far From Green | ACTION NEWS!!!
(01:46:27) Lake Satoshi Bitcoin Beach Retreat Aug. 2nd 2025
(01:49:39) Jon Says Nice Things About OCEAN | ACTION NEWS!!!
(01:55:12) We Scale
(02:00:21) Career Opportunities
Welcome to the The Confab, the term derives from "confidential talk", which was commonly used in the Prohibition Era for meetings and conversations that took place in the smoky, rule-breaking speakeasies of that time.
The informal, privacy focused and clandestine nature of Ungovernable Misfits lends itself to these discussions. So, grab a seat and a stiff drink from the concealed bar, listen and revel in the conversation.
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Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
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(00:00:00) INTRO
(00:01:14) BOOSTS
(00:03:51) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(00:05:09) Catching Up with SeedSigner
(00:22:59) Balancing Work and Family Life
(00:28:05) Seedsigner's Trials and Tribulations
(00:36:17) Multisig is a Saver's Primary Tool
(00:46:24) Curacao: An OG's Hidden Gem
(00:58:46) Observations in El Salvador
(01:05:46) Bitcoin Privacy Sucks. Thoughts?
(01:16:25) Seedsigner Signing Off 🫡
(00:00:00) INTRO
(00:01:02) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(00:02:05) "Sounding Like A Weasel"
(00:06:21) The Call Out
(00:10:01) Chain Analysis Monero Video
(00:15:54) #FREESAMOURAI Update
(00:21:50) 10101 Finances Closes Down Shop
(00:22:32) Nayuta Gives Up On the Custodial Lightning Network
(00:23:09) Alby Hub Tutorial By BTC Sessions
(00:25:00) Nothing Burger Tor Report
(00:25:54) BOOSTS
(00:31:43) ASHIGARU
(00:38:19) Robosats Releases v0.7.0-alpha
(00:43:06) New Live Wallet 0.7.0
(00:43:56) Passport 2.3.2 Out Of Beta
(00:44:57) Big Fixes Release from LNBits
(00:47:08) LN to Liquid to Onchain to XMR Swap to Liquid....
(00:55:51) Blue Wallet Unleashed
(00:57:46) Dana Wallet for Silent Payments
(00:58:59) Keeper Desktop Adds Cross Platform Support
(00:59:34) Sparrow Reaches Milestone with Version 2
(01:01:54) Storing Nostr Keys on a Passport
(01:05:53) No Copping Out!
(01:10:18) What's the Deal with BitcoinOS?
(01:13:42) MORE BOOSTS
(01:17:35) Monerotes or WHISSSSPERS?
(01:23:10) See You Later & #FREESAMOURAI
Welcome to the The Confab, the term derives from "confidential talk", which was commonly used in the Prohibition Era for meetings and conversations that took place in the smoky, rule-breaking speakeasies of that time.
The informal, privacy focused and clandestine nature of Ungovernable Misfits lends itself to these discussions. So, grab a seat and a stiff drink from the concealed bar, listen and revel in the conversation.
On this episode, the inaugural guest, Kerim, makes a home visit to speak with Max.
Show Discussion
If you're here solely for Bitcoin content, you might want to skip this one, as we delve into a myriad of topics ranging from lost worlds, drug use, history, angels, demons, and gods. The audio quality isn't the best, as it was recorded in my kitchen with only one shared mic, but I hope it's still enjoyable.
We begin with a discussion on the nature of reality and imagination, exploring how they intertwine and influence each other. Kerim shares his experiences with psychedelics, particularly ketamine, and how these have led to profound insights and encounters with entities. We delve into the concept of shared visions and telepathy, questioning the boundaries of perception and consciousness.
The conversation takes a turn towards ancient history and mythology, as Kerim discusses the Hermetic principles and their impact on his understanding of the world. We explore the idea of ancient civilizations, lost continents like Lemuria and Mu, and the potential existence of advanced technologies in the past.
Kerim shares a personal story from a festival where he believes he encountered entities through other people, leading to a deep existential crisis and a reevaluation of reality. We discuss the nature of good and evil, the influence of secret societies, and the potential for magic and spells in the modern world.
Throughout the episode, we touch on various conspiracy theories, the influence of ancient aliens, and the cyclical nature of human consciousness. It's a wild ride of a conversation, blending personal anecdotes with speculative theories, all while questioning the very fabric of our reality.
LAST EPISODE WITH KERIM: https://episodes.fm/1491067458/episode/YWEyZmI0OGEtMmI2Mi00ZjI1LWI1YzUtNTUxZTI3NGVkZjUz
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SHOW SPONSORS
FOUNDATION (https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable)
Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.
As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil,”
Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show.
Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase
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(00:00:41) INTRO
(00:01:55) BOOSTS
(00:07:00) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(00:08:01) Since We Last Hit the Bong...
(00:12:56) I've Seen Some Stuff
(00:24:06) Go Go Gadget
(00:30:56) The Pyramids Were Powerplants
(00:47:04) Let's Get Mystic
(00:57:51) There Cannot Be Good Without Evil
(01:11:41) Systems for Belief, Governance and Commerce
(01:32:16) The Battle Between Order and Chaos
(02:11:54) Why're You Here? What're You Doing? What's the Point?
(02:48:44) Creating a Spell
(03:05:48) Off to Terminus
(00:00:00) INTRO
(00:00:41) THANK YOU FOUNDATION
(00:01:53) This is 40
(00:07:22) Nostrilling
(00:16:09) Things That Annoy Max
(00:23:01) FREESAMOURAI Panel
(00:23:29) MULTISIG PANEL
(00:24:14) BOOSTS
(00:30:46) NEWS
(00:30:48) Durov Released on Bail
(00:31:25) Telegram FAQ Answers Change
(00:34:13) WarzirX Gets Hacked
(00:36:35) Solo Miner Hits a Block!
(00:37:38) Brazil Battles X (Formerly Known as Twitter)
(00:39:27) Chat Control Resurfaces in the EU
(00:45:41) Peter Todd Breaks Down L2's & Covenants
(00:46:51) YubiKey Vulnerability
(00:49:30) Samourai Wallet Legal Case Update
(00:50:53) MORE BOOSTS
(01:05:24) UPDATES & RELEASES
(01:05:27) Passport Firmware 2.3.2 BETA
(01:11:16) Blixt Wallet v7.0.0
(01:12:35) Cake Wallet Moves to BIP 39
(01:13:22) New Flow @ Nunchuk
(01:14:03) Anonstr: Disposable Key Pairs
(01:14:50) Bitcoin Education with Jippi
(01:15:37) NymVPN Beta is Now Open to the Public
(01:17:53) Live Wallet Update
(01:19:57) Let's Hit the Voicemail
(01:34:52) Wen Monero in Passport?
(01:36:14) What You Know Bout DLC's?
(01:45:48) Bye and #FREESAMOURAI
(00:00:00) INTRO 🏴☠️🖕
(00:01:45) THANK YOU FOUNDATION 🤝
(00:03:20) BOOSTS ⚡️
(00:06:28) Max Goes Full Time
(00:10:18) Health is Wealth
(00:17:08) You Can Spend Bitcoin?!
(00:30:42) Dark Skippy 🐿: What Is It?
(00:35:46) Dark Skippy 🐿: Why It It Overblown?
(00:44:09) Dark Skippy 🐿: Don't Fuck With Seed Signer
(00:47:12) Evaluating Reproducibility
(00:52:28) AI Applications in New Development
(01:01:32) Hardware Manufacturing is Tough Business
(01:10:44) Mulling About Multisig
(01:14:10) Feature Request: MORE LETTERS
(01:16:09) Let's Wrap It Up
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