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No Password Required: Next Gen – Ep. 1 - Michelle McAveety
Michelle McAveety- Cyber Competitions, Crowd Surfing & Main-Character Energy
Welcome to our new spinoff series, No Password Required: Next Generation. Where we go behind the scenes and interview up-and-coming young professionals in cybersecurity!
Whether you’re trying to figure out your career path, looking for a little inspiration, or just want to have a laugh while learning about the industry, this show is for you.
Real stories. Real journeys. Next Gen Cyber.
About this episode:
Michelle McAveety is a Computer Engineering and Math student at USF and the Team Captain of the CyberHerd, the university’s cybersecurity competition team.
We get into the chaos and adrenaline of competition life, what it’s like leading in a high-pressure cyber environment, and how she balances it all without losing herself. Spoiler: the answer includes crocheting, blasting heavy metal, going to concerts, and possibly crowd surfing if the vibe is right.
Michelle also drops some real advice opening up about the pressure to compare yourself in competitive fields and why staying grounded and focused on your own path is the real win.
Follow Michelles journey on linked in! https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcaveety/
Chapters:
00:39 - Who is Michelle?
00:54- Being in Cyberherd
01:38- Hobbies that bring Michelle Joy!
02:51- Comparison and Growth
Sue Serna - Social Media Security and Governance Leader and Lover of All Beagles
No Password Required Season 7: Episode 2 - Sue Serna
Sue Serna is the CEO and Founder of Serna Social and the former head of global social media at Cargill. She brings more than two decades of experience at the intersection of storytelling, strategy, and security.
In this episode, she shares her journey from business reporter to leading her own consultancy serving companies around the world on social media strategy.
Jack Clabby of Carlton Fields, P.A, joined by guest co-host Rex Wilson of Cyber Florida, welcomes Sue for a candid discussion about the realities of enterprise social media. From managing more than 150 Facebook pages for a single company, to navigating internal politics, agency relationships, and regulatory pressure, Sue explains why social media is far from “free” and why most organizations still under-resource it.
Sue dives deep into the gap between social media teams and cybersecurity departments. She outlines how personal account compromises can escalate into enterprise-level incidents, why governance frameworks matter, and how large organizations can regain control of sprawling digital footprints. Drawing from real-world examples, she argues that social media must be treated like finance or HR, a core business function requiring structure, ownership, and accountability.
The episode wraps with the Lifestyle Polygraph, where Sue reveals her love of Apollo-era space history, debates iconic Philadelphia traditions, and imagines what magical talent her beagle would bring to Hogwarts.
Follow Sue at SernaSocial.com or connect with her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sueserna/
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and First Impressions
02:45 The Evolving Role of Social Media in Corporations
04:58 Transitioning from Journalism to Social Media
11:11 Building Social Media from Scratch
13:00 Becoming a CEO and Founder
16:28 The Importance of Networking
16:54 Bridging the Gap Between Social Media and Cybersecurity
20:51 Real-World Social Media Security Incidents
28:35 Navigating Internal Conflicts in Social Media
30:32 The Lifestyle Polygraph Begins
31:17 Nerd Things That Expose Sue: Space and Harry Potter!
35:16 Sue’s Love For Beagles
37:50 Wreckless Intern or Overconfident Executive?
40:42 Hogwarts and Magical Beagles
Rob Hughes — CISO at RSA and Champion of a Passwordless Future
No Password Required Season 7: Episode 1 - Rob Hughes
Rob Hughes, the CISO at RSA, has more than 25 years of experience leading security and cloud infrastructure teams. In this episode, he reflects on his unconventional career path, from co-founding the original Geek.com and serving as its Chief Technologist during the early days of the internet, to leading security and systems design at Philips Home Monitoring.
Jack Clabby of Carlton Fields, P.A. and Kayley Melton welcome Rob for a wide-ranging conversation on identity, leadership, and the realities of modern cybersecurity. Rob currently leads RSA’s Security and Risk Office, overseeing cybersecurity, information security governance, and risk across both RSA’s products and corporate environment.
Rob explains his dream for a passwordless future. He unpacks why passwords remain one of the largest sources of cyber risk, how real-world incidents and password-spraying attacks have accelerated change, and why phishing-resistant technologies like passkeys may finally be reaching a tipping point.
The episode wraps with the Lifestyle Polygraph, where Rob lightens the conversation with stories about gaming with his kids, underrated horror films, and classic cars.
Follow Rob on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-hughes-816067a4/
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to No Password Required
01:43 Meet Rob Hughes, CISO at RSA
02:05 The Role of a CISO in a Security Company
05:09 Transitioning to the CISO Role
08:00 The Early Days of Geek.com
12:14 Launching a Startup During the Dot Com Boom
14:30 The Push for a Passwordless Future
18:21 Tipping Point for Passwordless Adoption
20:20 Ongoing Learning in Cybersecurity
26:09 Managing Stress in High-Pressure Environments
33:46 The Lifestyle Polygraph Begins
34:15 Career Insights in Cybersecurity
36:08 Dream Cars and Personal Preferences
39:58 Underrated Horror Films
41:19 Creating a Cybersecurity Monster
Gina Yacone — Virtual CISO at Trace3 and Roller Derby Penalty Box Visitor
Live from B-Sides Jacksonville, No Password Required welcomes Gina Yacone, Virtual CISO at Trace3. Jack Clabby of Carlton Fields, P.A. and Sarina Gandy, host and producer of the CyberBay Podcast, host a conversation on Gina’s unconventional career path, leadership under pressure, and the power of community in cybersecurity. With career stops in private investigation, digital forensics, and executive security, Gina brings a people-first, purpose-driven perspective to complex cyber risk.
Gina shares how her early work as a private investigator on high-profile criminal defense cases laid the foundation for her success in cybersecurity. She also reflects on raising her hand for big challenges, the rewards and risks of always saying yes, and how authenticity has guided her. She offers insight on why conference hallway conversations can be just as impactful as keynote sessions.
A visible advocate for the cybersecurity community, Gina speaks openly about setting healthy mentorship boundaries and building resilient professional networks.
The episode wraps with the Lifestyle Polygraph, where Gina lightens the mood with stories from her roller derby days, dream Amazing Race partners, and why John Wick might just be the ultimate executive assistant.
Follow Gina on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginayacone/
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity and B-Sides Jacksonville
01:16 Gina Yacone's Unique Journey to Cybersecurity
06:22 Navigating Burnout in Cybersecurity
08:06 The Importance of Raising Your Hand
10:04 Adapting Leadership Styles in Different Roles
14:03 Being a Role Model for Women in Cybersecurity
16:34 How to Establish a Good Mentee and Mentor Relationship
18:50 Feedback and Constructive Criticism
22:55 The Value of Hallway Conversations
26:19 The Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun and Insights
38:54 Conclusion and Future Connections
Danny Jenkins — Founder of ThreatLocker and the Zero-Trust Revolution
Danny Jenkins is the CEO of ThreatLocker, the leading cybersecurity company that he built alongside his wife. Hosts Jack Clabby of Carlton Fields, P.A., and Kayley Melton of the Cognitive Security Institute follow Danny’s journey from a scrappy IT consultant to leading one of the fastest-growing cybersecurity companies in the world.
Danny shares the moment everything changed: watching a small business nearly collapse after a catastrophic ransomware attack. That experience reshaped his mission and ultimately sparked the creation of ThreatLocker. He also reflects on the gritty early days—cold-calling from his living room, coding through the night, and taking on debt before finally landing their first $5,000 customer.
Danny explains the origins of Zero Trust World, his passion for educating IT teams, and why adopting a hacker mindset is essential for modern defenders.
In the Lifestyle Polygraph, Danny relates his early “revenge tech” against school bullies, the place he escapes to when celebrating big wins, and the movie franchise he insists is absolutely a Christmas classic.
Follow Danny on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyjenkins/
00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity and ThreatLocker
02:26 The Birth of ThreatLocker: A Personal Journey
05:42 The Evolution of Zero Trust Security
08:35 Real-World Impact of Cyber Attacks
11:25 The Importance of a Hacker Mindset
14:46 The Role of SOC Teams in Cybersecurity
17:34 Building a Culture of Security
20:23 Hiring for Passion and Skill in Cybersecurity
23:44 Understanding Zero Trust: Trust No One
26:32 Lifestyle Polygraph: Personal Insights and Fun
29:41 Conclusion and Future of ThreatLocker
Summary
In this episode of No Password Required, host Jack Clabby and Kayley Melton engage with Steve Orrin, the federal CTO at Intel, discussing the evolving landscape of cybersecurity, the importance of diverse teams, and the intersection of technology and security. Steve shares insights from his extensive career, including his experiences in the startup scene, the significance of AI and IoT, and the critical blind spots in cybersecurity practices. The conversation also touches on nurturing talent in technology and offers valuable advice for young professionals entering the field.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity and the Edge
01:48 Steve Orrin's Role at Intel
04:51 The Evolution of Security Technology
09:07 The Startup Scene in the 90s
13:00 The Intersection of Biology and Technology
15:52 The Importance of AI and IoT
20:30 Blind Spots in Cybersecurity
25:38 Nurturing Talent in Technology
28:57 Advice for Young Cybersecurity Professionals
32:10 Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun Questions with Steve
Starbucks’ Security Pro Went from Cyber Competitions to Corporate Red Teaming
DeMarcus Williams, a senior security engineer at Starbucks, has built a career defined by creativity, intuition, and persistence. With roles at the U.S. Department of Defense, AWS/Amazon, and now Starbucks, he specializes in offensive security, red teaming, and adversary emulation. In this episode, DeMarcus joins Jack Clabby of Carlton Fields, P.A. and Cyber Florida’s Sarina Gandy (guesting hosting) to share how his love of video games first sparked his cybersecurity journey—and how competitions like the Southeast Collegiate Cyber Defense Competition (SECCDC) cemented his path.
DeMarcus opens up about overcoming imposter syndrome, the unique work-life balance he’s found at Starbucks, and why half of his red teaming comes down to gut instinct. He shares the difference between penetration testing and red teaming, what it’s like preparing for full-scale global operations, and the hacker mindset that still kicks in whenever he walks into a Starbucks café.
In the Lifestyle Polygraph segment, Sarina poses the ultimate face-off: what’s the bigger moment—the walk-up to a boxing ring or to the DEF CON keynote stage? And, between Stone Cold, The Rock, and The Undertaker, who would dominate in a Capture the Flag competition?
Follow DeMarcus on Twitter: https://x.com/medarkus_ @ medarkus_
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity and Curiosity
02:47 Day-to-Day Life of a Senior Security Engineer
05:30 The Role of Gut Instinct in Cybersecurity
08:31 Early Inspirations and the Journey into Cybersecurity
11:35 The Importance of Competitions in Career Development
14:33 Transitioning from Student to Professional
17:34 The Red Team Experience and Its Impact
20:25 Recruitment Opportunities in Cybersecurity Competitions
23:33 Navigating Corporate Culture in Cybersecurity
26:31 Mentorship and People-First Approach
29:11 Lifestyle Polygraph and Fun Insights
Summary
In this episode of No Password Required, host Jack Clabby and co-host Kayleigh Melton engage in a lively conversation with John Shipp, a product strategist at Rapid7. They explore John's unique journey from a metalhead to a cybersecurity expert, discussing the importance of passion in career development, the intricacies of product management, and the significance of customer insights in shaping cybersecurity solutions. John shares his early experiences in hacking, the influence of music on his life, and the value of building strong teams and company culture. The episode concludes with a fun segment called the Lifestyle Polygraph, where John answers quirky questions about his ideal cyber team and his dream day with Ric Flair.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity and Personal Journeys
02:49 The Role of Passion in Career Development
05:21 Navigating Product Management and Market Strategy
08:23 The Evolution of Cybersecurity Skills
11:37 The Importance of Customer Insights in Product Development
14:35 Early Experiences in Hacking and Cybersecurity
17:24 The Influence of Music on Personal and Professional Life
20:19 Building Teams and Company Culture
23:10 Startup Life and Risk Management
26:08 Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun Questions and Insights
29:13 Final Thoughts and Connections
Summary
In this episode of No Password Required, hosts Jack Clabby and Kayley Melton sit down with Kurt Sanger — former Deputy General Counsel at U.S. Cyber Command — to talk about the evolving world of cyber law, the wild ride from government service to private sector strategy, and what keeps him grounded in a field that’s constantly shifting. Kurt dives into the fast-growing cybersecurity scene in Tampa, the power of mentorship, and why people still get cyber law so wrong. Plus: insights on responding to incidents under pressure and what role the government should (and shouldn’t) play in the digital fight.
Chapters
00:00 NPR S6E7 Kurt Sanger
52:53 NPR S6E7 Kurt Sanger
01:45:47 Introduction to Cybersecurity Conversations
01:48:22 Transitioning from Military to Private Sector Cybersecurity
01:51:11 The Growth of Tampa as a Cybersecurity Hub
01:54:05 Understanding Cybersecurity Misconceptions
01:57:15 The Role of Mentorship in Cybersecurity Careers
02:00:24 Military vs. Civilian Cybersecurity Law
02:03:07 The Excitement of Cyber Command vs. Private Sector
02:13:52 High Stakes in Cybersecurity for Small Organizations
02:15:44 The Role of Legal Experts in Cybersecurity
02:17:21 Translating Technical Jargon for Clients
02:18:57 Challenges of Explaining Cyber Operations to Commanders
02:22:43 Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun Questions and Insights
02:23:30 The 10,000 Hour Rule in Cybersecurity
02:29:34 Creative Freedom with LEGO Bricks
02:31:27 Tampa's Culinary Delights and Local Favorites
Summary
In this episode of the No Password Required podcast, host Jack Clabby and co-host Kaylee Melton welcome Kathy Collins, a security consultant at Secure Ideas. Kathy shares her unique journey from working in IT to pursuing a culinary career, and then back to cybersecurity. The conversation explores the transferable skills between cooking and cybersecurity, the unpredictability of physical penetration testing, and the high-pressure situations faced in both fields. Kathy also recounts memorable experiences from her culinary career and discusses the lack of horror films centered around cybersecurity. In this engaging conversation, the speakers delve into various aspects of cybersecurity, including the use of the dark web in penetration testing, the importance of community events like B-Sides, and the fun of the Lifestyle Polygraph segment. They also share personal anecdotes about music, childhood memories, and culinary skills, creating a rich tapestry of insights and experiences in the cybersecurity field.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity and Culinary Journeys
02:46 From IT to Culinary Arts: A Unique Transition
06:02 The Shift Back to Cybersecurity
09:00 Experiences in Physical Penetration Testing
11:48 High-Pressure Situations: Cooking vs. Cybersecurity
15:02 Unexpected Challenges in Culinary Events
17:54 The Intersection of Horror and Cybersecurity
23:32 Exploring the Dark Web in Pen Testing
25:34 Engaging with the B-Sides Community
27:09 The Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun and Games
31:09 Bonding Over Music and Childhood Memories
34:17 Culinary Skills and Competition Insights
Summary
In this episode, Jack Clabby and Kayley Melton discuss their conversation with Reginald Andre, a cybersecurity expert and CEO of ARK Solvers. They explore themes of mentorship, the evolution of cybersecurity businesses, the impact of AI, team culture, and community engagement. Andre shares his journey from aspiring English teacher to successful entrepreneur, emphasizing the importance of mentorship and personal growth in the cybersecurity field. In this engaging conversation, the speakers delve into the importance of mentorship, innovative teaching methods, and the role of AI in personal and professional development. They share personal anecdotes about mentoring students and children, emphasizing hands-on learning and real-world applications. The discussion also touches on the fun and insightful lifestyle polygraph segment, where the guest answers quirky questions that reveal his personality and approach to challenges.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity Mentorship
01:56 The Journey of Reginald Andre
05:58 From IT to Cybersecurity: A Business Evolution
11:55 The Impact of AI on Cybersecurity
17:52 Building a Strong Team Culture
22:05 Community Engagement and Personal Growth
27:39 Mentorship and Impact
30:21 Innovative Teaching Approaches
34:04 Lifestyle Polygraph: Fun and Insightful Questions