Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl

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Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer.

  • 42 minutes
    A Mid-winter View from the Yakima Valley

    We’re not quite in the dead of winter, but it feels like it – at least from the home office – so I wanted to think about warmer weather, growth, life, and green. So I’m excited to have Darren Gamache of Virgil Gamache Farms in Washington’s Yakima Valley here on the show. We talk about 2025 hops, what 2026 might bring, and the farm’s hop water – which could be a good fit for your drinking even if you’re not doing Dry January.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Darren Gamache

    Sponsors: Dogfish Head, All About Beer

    Tags: 2026, Hops, Yakima, Farming, Hop Water
    Photo: 
    Virgil Gamache Farms

    7 January 2026, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    When it Comes to All About Beer Here's What to Expect in 2026

    This episode drops on the last day of 2025 so I’ve invited my colleague and All About Beer  co-owner Andy Crouch on to talk about the year that was for our media company and what we have planned for the year ahead.  Journalism, like the beer industry, is in a difficult spot. We know you rely on good news and information just like you do a quality pint. Supporting your local brewery is important, so is supporting the sites and shows you believe in and trust.  From podcasts to articles to events, this was an eventful year for All About Beer. We were honored by both the British Guild of Beer Writers and the North American Guild of Beer Writers. And were able to pay writers, editors, photographers, and illustrators for great original work. AllAboutBeer.com/support is where you can check out ways to keep us rolling through 2026 and beyond. We know times are tough for a lot of people, so I appreciate your willingness to help. 

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Andy Crouch

    Sponsors: All About Beer

    Tags: 2026, 2025, Beer, Journalism, Drinking
    Photo: Andy Crouch

    31 December 2025, 5:00 am
  • 6 minutes 54 seconds
    Alex Kidd reads A Visit From St. Nicholas

    Alex Kidd recites the words of poet Clement Clarke Moore and A Visit from St. Nicholas.

     
    Read more about Alex Kidd here.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Alex Kidd

    Sponsors: All About Beer

    Tags: Poems, Holiday, High Gravity

    Music: polar-christmas-by-sascha-ende-from-filmmusic-io (1) and merry-christmas-short-instrumental-by-sascha-ende-from-filmmusic-io



    24 December 2025, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 22 minutes
    The 2025 Year in Beer

    It's our annual year in beer show with a panel of writers who share insight after countless interviews, pints, trips, and brewery visits. Listen in as Christopher Shepard, Melissa Cole, and Matt Kirkegaard break down the highs and lows of the 2025 brewing industry.
     

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.

    Sponsors


    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guests: Christopher Shepard, Melissa Cole, and Matt Kirkegaard

    Sponsors: Dogfish Head, Stomp Stickers, All About Beer

    Tags: Celebration

    Photo: John holl

    17 December 2025, 5:00 am
  • 45 minutes 9 seconds
    How Hop Selection Dials in IPA

    This week it’s a conversation with David Lin of Comrade Brewing in Colorado. From adapting the brewery over the years, to dialing in IPAs through hop selection, you’ll hear why the brewery is well respected among its peers and why it’s a must visit when in the Denver area.


    Listen to full episodes of Drink Beer, Think Beer and read original articles by visiting the All About Beer website.

    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest: David Lin

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head, 

    Tags: Beer, IPA, Pizza, Colorado

    Photo: by John Holl


    10 December 2025, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    Lauren Woods Limbach Has Her Last Word

    After nearly 30 years at New Belgium Brewing Co., where she had a hand in creating some of the most important wood-aged beers in the country, Lauren Woods Limbach announced that she would be retiring from the company in the new year. She’s here for a conversation about patience, wood, saison, creativity, and the future.


    Listen to full episodes of Drink Beer, Think Beer and read original articles by visiting the All About Beer website.

    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Lauren Limbach

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head, 

    Tags: Beer, Wood, Barrels, Colorado

    Photo: by John Holl


    3 December 2025, 5:00 am
  • 47 minutes 30 seconds
    Randy Mosher Reflects on the Siebel Institute Moving From Chicago

    Late last week the Siebel Institute, the venerable brewing school in Chicago announced that it would be leaving the city and re-opening in Montreal. The announcement by the school’s owner send shockwaves and sadness throughout the brewing community. 

    This week, Professor Randy Mosher is here to talk about the school’s impact and legacy, and to give an update on his latest book project tiled Your Tasting Brain.


    Listen to full episodes of Drink Beer, Think Beer and read original articles by visiting the All About Beer website.

    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Randy Mosher

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Beer, Education, Tasting, Chicago, Siebel, Gravy

    Photo: Courtesy of Siebel Institute of Technology


    26 November 2025, 5:00 am
  • 45 minutes 35 seconds
    Sierra Nevada's Second Generation Talks Celly Drippins and the Future

    When Brian Grossman started working for the brewery his father co-founded he expected to be making beer right away. Instead he was put to work scrubbing out fermenters. Over the years at Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. he has held a number of jobs in both the original Chico, California location and in the Mills River, North Carolina brewery.

    Today he goes by chief brewer and is increasingly becoming the public face of the venerable beer brand that just celebrated its 45th anniversary. Earlier today, shortly before the North Carolina brewery opened its doors to the public for pours of Celly Drippins, he sat down for a conversation about generations, responsibility, brewing and hops.

    Listen to full episodes of Drink Beer, Think Beer and read original articles by visiting the All About Beer website.


    Sponsors

    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Brian Grossman

    Sponsors: All About Beer

    Tags: Hops, History, IPA, North Carolina, Generations

    Photo: by Jon Page


    21 November 2025, 6:58 pm
  • 1 hour 32 minutes
    Properly Evaluating an Extra Special Bitter

    This week, it’s a conversation with Betsy Lay of Lady Justice Brewing in Denver. We talk about the evolution of ESB including some thoughts on Sierra Nevada winning gold in that category at the World Beer Cup with Pale Ale.

    She also discusses brewing with intention, what it truly means to be a community hub, and how the Mile High City is changing – and staying the same- with its beer scene.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Betsy Lay

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Denver, ESB, Pale Ale, Judging, Community

    Photo:  Courtesy of Betsy Lay


    19 November 2025, 5:00 am
  • 43 minutes 27 seconds
    Having FoBAB FOMO? Mike Pallen of Mikerphone is Here to Help

    Mike Pallen of Mikerphone Brewing talks about brewing stouts, barrel-aging, and festival season in Chicago.

    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Mike Pallen

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: FoBAB, Wood, Stout, Chicago, Goose Island, Marshmallow 

    Photo:  John Holl


    12 November 2025, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 8 minutes
    Bonus: Seen Through a Glass with Lew Bryson

    A bonus episode this week as we're pleased to bring you Seen Through a Glass, a podcast produced and hosted by Lew Bryson.
    Here's what he has to say about this episode:

    THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN! I asked you who you wanted me to interview, and you said "Give us The Pizza Boy, Al Kominski!" Well, I cannot defy or deny the people, so I went down to Al's of Hampden in Enola on the West Shore and got the interview...and then hung around and visited some more breweries: Ever Grain, Mellow Mink, Sworn, Hemauer, and Liquid Noise.

    I got in a visit to Sugar Run Brewing in Duncansville as well, and I'll tell you about opening night at the newest bar in Millheim: our home bar, First Draft, is finally complete, and spreading joy among our friends. And if you're interested...check out the @stagpodcast Instagram page to see a picture of our new Corgi puppy, Samwise!

    Next episode? Back in April, I did an Earth Day presentation at Ploughman Farm Cider's Gettysburg taproom on the agricultural aspects of rye whiskey, along with a cider guy talking about the same thing. We'll hear that, plus I'll tell you what it was like at the PA Cider Fest. See you in two weeks!

    Until then?

    TELL YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT THE PODCAST!

    Seen Through A Glass is sponsored by the Happy Valley Adventure Bureau. Come visit Centre County!

     

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    5 November 2025, 5:00 am
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