Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl

Beer Edge

Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer.

  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    Lauren Woods Limbach Has Her Last Word

    After nearly 30 years at New Belgium Brewing Co., where she had a hand in creating some of the most important wood-aged beers in the country, Lauren Woods Limbach announced that she would be retiring from the company in the new year. She’s here for a conversation about patience, wood, saison, creativity, and the future.


    Listen to full episodes of Drink Beer, Think Beer and read original articles by visiting the All About Beer website.

    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Randy Mosher

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head, 

    Tags: Beer, Wood, Barrels, Colorado

    Photo: by John Holl


    3 December 2025, 5:00 am
  • 47 minutes 30 seconds
    Randy Mosher Reflects on the Siebel Institute Moving From Chicago

    Late last week the Siebel Institute, the venerable brewing school in Chicago announced that it would be leaving the city and re-opening in Montreal. The announcement by the school’s owner send shockwaves and sadness throughout the brewing community. 

    This week, Professor Randy Mosher is here to talk about the school’s impact and legacy, and to give an update on his latest book project tiled Your Tasting Brain.


    Listen to full episodes of Drink Beer, Think Beer and read original articles by visiting the All About Beer website.

    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Randy Mosher

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Beer, Education, Tasting, Chicago, Siebel, Gravy

    Photo: Courtesy of Siebel Institute of Technology


    26 November 2025, 5:00 am
  • 45 minutes 35 seconds
    Sierra Nevada's Second Generation Talks Celly Drippins and the Future

    When Brian Grossman started working for the brewery his father co-founded he expected to be making beer right away. Instead he was put to work scrubbing out fermenters. Over the years at Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. he has held a number of jobs in both the original Chico, California location and in the Mills River, North Carolina brewery.

    Today he goes by chief brewer and is increasingly becoming the public face of the venerable beer brand that just celebrated its 45th anniversary. Earlier today, shortly before the North Carolina brewery opened its doors to the public for pours of Celly Drippins, he sat down for a conversation about generations, responsibility, brewing and hops.

    Listen to full episodes of Drink Beer, Think Beer and read original articles by visiting the All About Beer website.


    Sponsors

    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Brian Grossman

    Sponsors: All About Beer

    Tags: Hops, History, IPA, North Carolina, Generations

    Photo: by Jon Page


    21 November 2025, 6:58 pm
  • 1 hour 32 minutes
    Properly Evaluating an Extra Special Bitter

    This week, it’s a conversation with Betsy Lay of Lady Justice Brewing in Denver. We talk about the evolution of ESB including some thoughts on Sierra Nevada winning gold in that category at the World Beer Cup with Pale Ale.

    She also discusses brewing with intention, what it truly means to be a community hub, and how the Mile High City is changing – and staying the same- with its beer scene.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Betsy Lay

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Denver, ESB, Pale Ale, Judging, Community

    Photo:  Courtesy of Betsy Lay


    19 November 2025, 5:00 am
  • 43 minutes 27 seconds
    Having FoBAB FOMO? Mike Pallen of Mikerphone is Here to Help

    Mike Pallen of Mikerphone Brewing talks about brewing stouts, barrel-aging, and festival season in Chicago.

    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Mike Pallen

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: FoBAB, Wood, Stout, Chicago, Goose Island, Marshmallow 

    Photo:  John Holl


    12 November 2025, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 8 minutes
    Bonus: Seen Through a Glass with Lew Bryson

    A bonus episode this week as we're pleased to bring you Seen Through a Glass, a podcast produced and hosted by Lew Bryson.
    Here's what he has to say about this episode:

    THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN! I asked you who you wanted me to interview, and you said "Give us The Pizza Boy, Al Kominski!" Well, I cannot defy or deny the people, so I went down to Al's of Hampden in Enola on the West Shore and got the interview...and then hung around and visited some more breweries: Ever Grain, Mellow Mink, Sworn, Hemauer, and Liquid Noise.

    I got in a visit to Sugar Run Brewing in Duncansville as well, and I'll tell you about opening night at the newest bar in Millheim: our home bar, First Draft, is finally complete, and spreading joy among our friends. And if you're interested...check out the @stagpodcast Instagram page to see a picture of our new Corgi puppy, Samwise!

    Next episode? Back in April, I did an Earth Day presentation at Ploughman Farm Cider's Gettysburg taproom on the agricultural aspects of rye whiskey, along with a cider guy talking about the same thing. We'll hear that, plus I'll tell you what it was like at the PA Cider Fest. See you in two weeks!

    Until then?

    TELL YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT THE PODCAST!

    Seen Through A Glass is sponsored by the Happy Valley Adventure Bureau. Come visit Centre County!

     

    This episode uses these sounds under the following license:
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    All sounds sourced by STAG Music Librarian Nora Bryson, with our thanks.

    5 November 2025, 5:00 am
  • 42 minutes 1 second
    Heavy Seas Charts a New Path Forward

    Hugh Sisson of Heavy Seas returns to the program to talk about the brewery joining B3, a collective of brewers. He also touches on the importance of hospitality, innovation, and ways to navigate the current state of the beer industry.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Hugh Sisson

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Business, Hospitality, Evolution

    Photo:  Heavy Seas Beer

    29 October 2025, 4:00 am
  • 50 minutes 56 seconds
    A Beer Drinking Milestone Decades in the Making

    The beer world is filled with achievements. A few weeks back the Great American Beer Festival handed out its annual awards. Around Denver there were other competitions like Alpha King and Krispy King. Brewers might be crowned in “best of” lists by newspapers or local magazines. Way back in the day Wynkoop Brewery would hand out its beer drinker of the year award.

    Other milestones are more private and personal. 

    Don Tse, recently hit an important beer milestone. For nearly thirty years he has been chronicling and cataloguing every beer he has consumed. The number is impressive as is his commitment to the cause. Tse a prolific writer and his work appears in magazines, on Forbes.com, and he co-hosts the All About Beer podcast


     

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.

    Host: John Holl

    Guest:  Don Tse

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Tasting, Travel, Milestones, Canada

    Photo:  Don Tse


    22 October 2025, 4:00 am
  • 50 minutes 36 seconds
    From the Brewhouse to the C-Suite: The Leadership Challenge

    Making great beer is one challenge; running a successful brewery is another. As today’s industry faces tighter margins, shifting consumer trends, and economic uncertainty, many brewers find themselves taking on new roles as managers and executives. 

     

    Our panel today – moderated by Andy Crouch from Schilling’s Oktoberfest - includes decision makers who have run brewhouses and have transitioned to running their businesses, folks who have worked for others and on their own, and have managed all parts of these operations. 

     

    They share lessons on leadership, strategy, and the business realities of brewing today.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.

    Host: Andy Crouch

    Guests:  Sean Lawson, Basil Lee, Roy Milner, Paul Sayler 

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Pours, Business, Octoberfest, Work

    Photo:  Andy Crouch

    15 October 2025, 4:00 am
  • 45 minutes 42 seconds
    Selling Lager in the Age of Moderation

    The Year of the Lager has been predicted for decades, and it is finally coming true. And the timing couldn’t be better. Drinking habits continue to shift and younger audiences are increasingly embracing moderation or even alcohol abstinence. The craft beer industry finds itself at a crossroads. After decades of solid and sometimes explosive growth, craft beer faces both a challenge and an opportunity.


    Lager, with its approachable strength and depth of flavor, is uniquely positioned to thrive in this environment. And while craft lager comprises a small fraction of the beer market, it has never been more popular or relevant. Today we’re going to explore how to reframe and sell lager for audiences who value balance, flavor, and authenticity, in a moment when many aren’t reaching for a pint.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.

    Host: Andy Crouch

    Guests:  Todd DiMatteo, Blake Tyres, Greg Engert

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Pours, Lager, Octoberfest, Pilsner

    Photo:  Andy Crouch

    8 October 2025, 4:00 am
  • 54 minutes 7 seconds
    Where to Drink Beer in Denver (2025 Great American Beer Preview)

    It’s just about that time of year again when the beer faithful travel to Denver for the Great American Beer Festival. But truth be told, there’s so much do to in the Mile High City that even if you don’t go to the convention center there’s endless beer fun to be had. A trio of local experts - Jonathan Shikes of the Denver Post, Tristan Chan of Porch Drinking, and Dustin Craft of Malteurop joins host John Holl  to break down where you should go to eat, drink, and be merry.


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    Stomp Stickers
    Stomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beer
    labels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.

    Host: John Holl

    Guests:  Tristan Chan, Dustin Craft, Jonathan Shikes

    Sponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish Head

    Tags: Pours, Lager, Denver, Bierstadt, Great American Beer Festival

    Photo:  John Holl

    1 October 2025, 4:00 am
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