Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl

Beer Edge

Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer.

  • 45 minutes 45 seconds
    Dan Kleban on Maine Beer, His U.S. Senate Run, and What Comes Next

    This week, it’s a conversation with Dan Kleban, a co-founder of Maine Beer Co. where we talk about the intersection of owning a small business, brewing, and politics.


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    Click here to support independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    This Episode is Sponsored by:

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Dan Kleban

    Sponsors: Dogfish Head, All About Beer

    Tags: Maine, Politics, Beer, Community, Service, Bottles
    Photo: 

    15 April 2026, 4:00 am
  • 58 minutes 2 seconds
    How Glenwood Canyon Brewpub Brews a Gold Medal Festbier

    This week, it’s a conversation with Todd Malloy and Robin Reed of the Glenwood Canyon Brewpub in Colorado. It’s celebrating 30 years, and in the previous two years has taken gold for festbier at the Great American Beer Festival. They brewed a fresh batch for this year’s World Beer Cup, which is currently holding its first round of judging. The brewing duo talk about getting a beer ready for competition, and how to build an award winning festbier. 

    Visit AllAboutBeer.com for more podcasts, to read original articles, and to get info on upcoming events.


    Click here to support independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    This Episode is Sponsored by:


    Berkeley Yeast
    Our Tropics yeast is based on a London Ale strain, but we added a new gene to its genome that codes for a unique thiol-releasing enzyme. The enzyme converts the precursors in barley to free thiols that smell and taste like passionfruit and grapefruit. It’s super clean. No off-flavors like burnt rubber or other sulfurous notes. Just tropical aromatics. You don’t have to do anything unusual either, like mash hopping. Just pitch dry Tropics and supercharge your hazy IPA.


    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guests: Robin Reed, Todd Malloy

    Sponsors: Dogfish Head, Berkeley Yeast All About Beer

    Tags: Festbier, Lager, Colorado, Medals
    Photo:
    Glenwood Canyon Brewpub

    8 April 2026, 4:00 am
  • 24 minutes 25 seconds
    This Week in Rauchbier 2026

    Welcome to This Week in Rauchbier for April 1, 2026.
     

    Our Rauchbier spotlight is on the Pacific Northwest where eight breweries have come together to release Smoke Break, a collaborative Rauch Märzen built around a simple idea: Rauchbier is great, and more people should be drinking it.


    "The project brings together Cloudburst Brewing, Obelisk Beer Co, Varietal Beer Company, Ladd & Lass Brewing, Ravenna Brewing Company, Urban Family Brewing Co., Human People Beer, and Single Hill Brewing (who hosted the collaboration.) It is a larger-than-usual collaboration centered on a style that does not often get this kind of spotlight," reads a press release. "Smoke Break is a mid strength Rauch Märzen brewed with beechwood-smoked barley, and a touch of oak-smoked wheat. The result is a malt-forward lager with notes of caramel and cocoa, backed by a firm but clean smoky finish that lingers without overwhelming."

    Then Bart Watson the President and CEO of the Brewers Association joins us to share the latest growth and success of Rauchbier in the marketplace. 

    Finally, we hear from Brian Shirley at Time & Materials Beer talks about his cask rauchbier. 


    Enjoy these audio smoky delights. 


    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.

    • Host: John Holl
    • Guests: Bart Watson, Brian Shirley, Andrew Pytel
    • Tags: beer, craft beer, rauchbier, smoke, April Fool's Day



    Music for this episode:
    NewsSting by Kevin MacLeod

    Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4124-newssting

    License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

    1 April 2026, 4:00 am
  • 47 minutes 26 seconds
    When Veteran Brewers Collaborate Good Beer Happens

    Two for one on this episode as John Holl talks with a duo of Colorado brewers who teamed up to create something special for the upcoming Collaboration Beer Festival happening in the Rocky Mountain state next month. What goes into collaboration, how does it stoke creativity, and what should brewers learn from each other? Andy Parker of Odyssey Beerwerks and Ross Koenigs of Second Dawn Brewing discuss it all and more.

    This Episode is Sponsored by:


    Berkeley Yeast
    Our Tropics yeast is based on a London Ale strain, but we added a new gene to its genome that codes for a unique thiol-releasing enzyme. The enzyme converts the precursors in barley to free thiols that smell and taste like passionfruit and grapefruit. It’s super clean. No off-flavors like burnt rubber or other sulfurous notes. Just tropical aromatics. You don’t have to do anything unusual either, like mash hopping. Just pitch dry Tropics and supercharge your hazy IPA.


    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guests: Andy Parker and Ross Koenigs

    Sponsors: Dogfish Head, Berkeley Yeast All About Beer

    Tags: Colorado,Collaboration, IPA, Cocktails, Barrels, Fun
    Photo: 

    25 March 2026, 4:00 am
  • 22 minutes 28 seconds
    A Conversation with The Guinness Brand Ambassador

    Let's keep St. Patrick's Day rolling. This week it's a conversation Guinness Brewery Ambassador Colm O’Connor.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Colm O’Connor

    Sponsors: All About Beer

    Tags: Guinness, Stout, New York
    Photo:
    by Andy Crouch

    18 March 2026, 4:00 am
  • 48 minutes 37 seconds
    Classic Ales with a Side of Malört

    The city of Philadelphia is a great beer town. It’s also a great food town and a place to get a dose of history, while living your best life. This week on the podcast it’s a conversation with Andrew Rubenstein of Sacred Vice, who shares tips and insights on visiting the city of brotherly love. 


    This Episode is Sponsored by:


    Berkeley Yeast
    Our Tropics yeast is based on a London Ale strain, but we added a new gene to its genome that codes for a unique thiol-releasing enzyme. The enzyme converts the precursors in barley to free thiols that smell and taste like passionfruit and grapefruit. It’s super clean. No off-flavors like burnt rubber or other sulfurous notes. Just tropical aromatics. You don’t have to do anything unusual either, like mash hopping. Just pitch dry Tropics and supercharge your hazy IPA.


    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Andrew Rubenstein

    Sponsors: Dogfish Head, Berkeley Yeast All About Beer

    Tags: Malört, Brewing, Cream Ale, Restaurants, Philadelphia
    Photo:
    by John Holl

    11 March 2026, 4:00 am
  • 1 hour 3 minutes
    Drink More Milk Tubes: The Story of Human Robot

    This week it’s a conversation with Ken Correll of Human Robot, the Philadelphia based brewing company that specializes in lagers. We’re talking about how to build a hospitality program, the importance of festivals, being creative in a controlled space, and just about every tangent we can pull out during our time together. Many pints hit the table, and we just about manage to keep it on the rails.
     

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors


    Barrel One Collective
    In a landmark merger between two pioneers of New England’s craft beer industry, Mass. Bay Brewing Company and Finestkind Brewing LLC proudly announce the formation of Barrel One Collective. The Collective will house 14 total brands, operate eight brewery-taprooms across four states (MA, NH, NY, VT) and have a combined production volume of nearly 165,000 barrels, positioning it as the largest craft producer in New England and 14th largest in the country according to Brewer’s Association 2023 Production Data.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Ken Correll

    Sponsors: Barrel One Collective, All About Beer

    Tags: Lager, Brewing, Philadelphia, Festivals, Hospitality
    Photo:
    By John Holl

    4 March 2026, 5:00 am
  • 39 minutes 7 seconds
    Beer and the Big Screen

    Let’s go to the movies. It’s a conversation with Josh Miller, of Flix Brewhouse, a chain of breweries and movie theaters that brings pints to the silver screen experience.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    This Episode is Sponsored by:


    Berkeley Yeast
    Our Tropics yeast is based on a London Ale strain, but we added a new gene to its genome that codes for a unique thiol-releasing enzyme. The enzyme converts the precursors in barley to free thiols that smell and taste like passionfruit and grapefruit. It’s super clean. No off-flavors like burnt rubber or other sulfurous notes. Just tropical aromatics. You don’t have to do anything unusual either, like mash hopping. Just pitch dry Tropics and supercharge your hazy IPA.


    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Josh Miller

    Sponsors: Dogfish Head, Berkeley Yeast All About Beer

    Tags: Movies,Beer, Brewing, Growth
    Photo:
    Courtesy of Hot Plate Brewing

    25 February 2026, 5:00 am
  • 1 hour 11 minutes
    Brewing European Lagers with American Ingredients

    The nature of lagers is changing and there are brewers leading the charge. Niko Tonks of Double Elbow Brewing is here to talk about brewing European lagers with only American ingredients. It’s a fascinating look at the evolution of brewing.

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Barrel One Collective
    In a landmark merger between two pioneers of New England’s craft beer industry, Mass. Bay Brewing Company and Finestkind Brewing LLC proudly announce the formation of Barrel One Collective. The Collective will house 14 total brands, operate eight brewery-taprooms across four states (MA, NH, NY, VT) and have a combined production volume of nearly 165,000 barrels, positioning it as the largest craft producer in New England and 14th largest in the country according to Brewer’s Association 2023 Production Data.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Niko Tonks

    Sponsors: Barrel One Collective, All About Beer

    Tags: Lager, Brewing,
    Photo:
    Courtesy of Double Elbow

    18 February 2026, 5:00 am
  • 44 minutes 47 seconds
    How One Brewery is Building Community and Embracing Creativity

    Sarah Real of Hot Plate Brewing joins the podcast for this episode.The small brewery in the Berkshire mountains of Massachusetts is leading the way when it comes to showing what a modern community space centered around beer can be.
     

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Sarah Real

    Sponsors: Dogfish Head, All About Beer

    Tags: IPA, Community, Pink Boots
    Photo:
    Courtesy of Hot Plate Brewing

    11 February 2026, 5:00 am
  • 52 minutes
    Every Bear Poops. Sometimes it Lands in a Beer.

    The Super Bowl airs this Sunday and amid all the commercials, you might catch one for Columbia, the outdoor gear company. The makers of tough weather clothing partnered with Oregon’ Breakside Brewery to create a lager brewed with… yup, you guessed it: bear poop. 

    Ben Edmunds the brewery’s founder and brewmaster joins the show to talk about what went in to making this lager.
     

    For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.


    Sponsors

    Dogfish Head Craft Brewery
    Calling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.


    All About Beer
    At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.


    Host: John Holl

    Guest: Ben Edmunds

    Sponsors: Dogfish Head, All About Beer

    Tags: Oregon, Scat, Lager, Marketing, Football  
    Photo:
    Courtesy of Columbia Sportswear 

    4 February 2026, 5:00 am
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