Men need men. In this episode, Tom Zuniga champions the value of brotherhood and "chosen family"—especially in a culture where romantic marriage seems like the only place where intimacy is possible. Tom shares his story of growing up feeling lonely and different, experiencing same-sex attraction, and discovering the beauty of following Jesus in community with other men.

Tom Zuniga is the Director of Your Other Brothers, a community where Christian men are navigating matters of faith, sexuality, and masculinity. Together. Check out their blogs and podcasts, or explore their retreats and other community offerings at yourotherbrothers.org

Learn more about the overarching nonprofit ministry of Your Other Family at yourotherfamily.org, as well as their new women’s community of Your Other Sisters at yourothersisters.org

Hear Tom Zuniga interview Drew Boa at https://yourotherbrothers.org/convocast/yob-convocast-104-tom-amp-drew-boa-outgrow-porn-examine-fetishes-and-do-inner-child-work

Connect with Tom at thomasmarkz.com

Disclaimer: Tom and Your Other Family offer valuable perspectives and wonderful resources, and we're honored to introduce them to you. As with any content, we encourage you to take what helps you grow and leave the rest behind.

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In this episode, longtime friend of the podcast and author Sathiya Sam shares why porn recovery can literally save lives, what true freedom looks like (eternal, internal, and external) and practical advice on how to find purpose beyond porn.

Sathiya Sam, founder of Deep Clean Coaching, helps men overcome pornography addiction, inspired by his own 15-year journey. Author of The Last Relapse and host of The Man Within, he has guided thousands of men to freedom. Learn more at sathiyasam.com

To celebrate 10 years of freedom from porn and 1 million podcast downloads, Sathiya is hosting a giveaway. Enter here: deepcleancoaching.com/giveaway

"You don't set people free just so they can say they're free; you set people free so they can fly." —Sathiya Sam

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Do you know what it's like to feel numb, drained, and disconnected? This is the most common precursor to watching porn: the "flop" reaction. In this episode, you'll learn what the flop reaction is, why it's not necessarily bad, and three ways to navigate low-energy moments without crashing into a relapse. 

Strategy #1: Flop with a purpose

Strategy #2: Flop with a friend

Strategy #3: Flop with your body

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How does physical fitness support sexual and spiritual health? In this episode, Alex VanHouten describes what it looks like to faithfully care for your body. You'll learn about the twin pitfalls of pride/envy and gluttony/sloth, how working out can help you process emotions and sexual urges, and what fitness is ultimately about: reclaiming the territory of your body for the kingdom of God.

Alex VanHouten is an exercise scientist, health coach, and the founder of Faithful Fitness. With over 20 years of experience in fitness coaching, he has empowered individuals to transform their health through intelligent, science-based training, all while grounding his approach in the hope of the gospel. As the host of the Faithful Fitness Podcast and leader of the Faithful Fitness community, Coach Alex provides valuable tools to help people steward their bodies well for God’s glory. Learn more at faithfulfitness.co

Buy Alex's new book:

Faithful Fitness: A 40-Day Devotional for Christian Health and Stewardship

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If you're in a season of depression, darkness, or difficulty, please listen to this episode. Justin McRoberts and Scott Erickson offer deep wisdom on how to welcome all that is within you (yes, even that). This interview is punctuated by powerful poems and prayers for whatever "low" you might be going through.

Justin McRoberts is the author of 8 books, including In The Low: Honest Prayers For Dark Seasons. He lives in Martinez, CA and talks with his mom every day. Connect with Justin at justinmcroberts.com or on Instagram @justinmcroberts.

Scott Erickson is an artist, author, and performance speaker creating a visual vocabulary for the spiritual journey. Connect with Scott at scottericksonart.com or on Instagram @scottthepainter.

Buy Justin and Scott's new book:

In The Low: Honest Prayers For Dark Seasons

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What are HMA Triads? What makes them different from accountability groups? Why is joining a small group essential for outgrowing porn? Rich Savoy explains everything you need to know about HMA Triads, what makes them different than porn accountability groups, and why you should consider joining one. Join HMA by January 18, 2026 at joinHMA.com.

Rich Savoy is HMA's Director Of Small Groups. He is also a board member of Husband Material Ministries and an international speaker on emotional intelligence with Global Leadership Partners. Contact Rich inside the Husband Material Community.

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God designed your brain to heal itself under the right conditions. How can we understand self-healing from a Christian perspective? What are the optimal conditions for self-healing? How can self-healing accelerate the process of outgrowing porn? In this episode, you'll not only get answers to these questions—you'll witness a powerful demonstration of Brainspotting with Drew Boa and Mike Chapman.

This episode was recorded at the 2026 Porn Free Man Conference sponsored by Husband Material Academy (HMA). Join HMA now at joinHMA.com

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What is Brainspotting? How can it help men heal and outgrow porn? Find out from Dr. David Grand himself! In this episode, you'll learn how Brainspotting works, why it's unique, and how it accelerates recovery from porn/sex addiction.

David Grand, PhD is the developer of Brainspotting, the groundbreaking relational brain-body, mindfulness-based method. He is the author of Brainspotting: The Revolutionary New Therapy for Rapid and Effective Change and the co-author of This is Your Brain on Sports. Dr. Grand has been widely featured in the media, including The New York Times, NBC National News, The Discovery Channel, CNN, MSNBC, Sports Illustrated, and Sirius Radio. 

Curious about Brainspotting?

• Read the book by David Grand
• Find a Brainspotter near you on the international directory
• Work with Mike Chapman, Dr. Doug Carpenter, or Drew Boa (who are all Brainspotting Practitioners and Certified Husband Material Coaches).
• Join HMA to witness the power of Brainspotting (and maybe even try it out yourself) at Fantasy Fridays.

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What can the movie "K-Pop Demon Hunters" teach us about shame, hiding, and healing through vulnerability and connection? In this extended episode, Drew and his friend Andy offer an in-depth analysis of the film—addressing theological concerns, highlighting takeaways for sexual recovery, and tracing each character's redemptive journey. Enjoy!

Drew and Andy became friends at Wheaton College, serving together in college, church, and summer camp ministries. Andy has degrees in Christian theology and adventure-based experiential learning, and has been a participant and collaborator with Husband Material since 2023.

K-Pop Demon Hunters is available on Netflix. We recommend watching the "Sing-along" version.

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In this incredibly vulnerable episode, Nate Larkin tells the story of how he returned to lying, hiding, binge drinking, and destructive sexual behavior while leading a sexual recovery organization. You'll also hear Nate's wisdom on how to be vulnerable as a leader and the importance of telling the truth.

Nate Larkin is the founder of the Samson Society, a fellowship of Christian men who are serious about authenticity, community, humility, and recovery. Learn more at samsonsociety.com

Buy Nate's book: Samson and the Pirate Monks: Calling Men To Authentic Brotherhood

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What’s next for Husband Material? In this episode, you’ll hear the exciting new vision for how we want to help the next generation of young men and couples change their brains, heal their hearts, and save their relationships. 

Here’s how you can be part of it:

1. Pray: husbandmaterial.com/pray
2. Give: husbandmaterial.com/give

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