Discover the differences between "Egypt Sexuality" and "Promised Land Sexuality" based on insights from Deuteronomy 11:10-12. You'll be challenged to trust God with your life instead of trying to control your life. 

This sermon was originally preached on Sunday, April 26, 2026 at the Husband Material Spring Retreat in Georgia. See upcoming retreats at husbandmaterial.com/retreat

Previous sermons from HM Retreats:

• You Are Not Too Much (Mark 6:30-56)
• Excluded & Emasculated (Acts 8:26-40)
• David's Sexual Story (2 Samuel 11-12)
• The Beauty Of Brotherhood (Psalm 133)
• How Jesus Reverses The Curse (John 21)

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Have you ever felt curious or confused about IFS (Internal Family Systems) and how it can help you outgrow porn? Patrick Cagle offers the perfect introduction: the 3 types of parts within you, the 9 Cs of your authentic self, and the highly practical 6 Fs to connect with a part of you that feels activated, triggered, or sexually tempted.

Patrick Cagle is an IFS Level 2–trained therapist, a Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT) candidate, and a Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional (PSAP). Based in Alabama, he serves as an associate-level counselor devoted to helping individuals find freedom from unwanted sexual behaviors and supporting partners healing from betrayal trauma.

With compassion, clarity, and a deep respect for each client’s inner world, Patrick integrates Internal Family Systems (IFS) to uncover and heal the underlying wounds that drive addiction. His approach helps clients move beyond shame, restore connection with their authentic self, and experience lasting recovery and transformation.

Connect with Patrick at (334) 602-4112.

Check out Patrick's Psychology Today Profile here.

Join Patrick's drop-in discussion group: "Men's Internal Family Systems & Sexual Integrity" on Tuesdays at 10:00 AM Pacific Time here.

Mentioned in this episode:

• The 9 C's of IFS (credit to Cece Sykes)
• The 6 F's of IFS by Dr. Richard Schwartz
• The SIBAM Model by Dr. Peter Levine 

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Are you tired of fighting a battle against yourself? Jenna Riemersma offers a remarkably powerful path to healing through the "Move Toward" approach, her simplified version of IFS (Internal Family Systems). You'll learn a practical three-step tool to transform unwanted behavior and outgrow porn through curiosity and compassion. 

Jenna Riemersma, LPC, is a leading authority in integrating Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy with Compulsive Sexual Behavior Disorder (CSBD) and betrayal trauma treatment. As a Certified IFS Therapist, IFS Clinical Consultant, IITAP teaching faculty, and CSAT Supervisor, she brings over a decade of specialized expertise to this critical therapeutic intersection. Jenna is also the developer of the innovative "Move Toward" IFS shorthand tool—a practical resource that helps therapists and clients efficiently access IFS parts work. Learn more at movetoward.com

Buy Jenna's new book:

• Move Toward: A Simplified IFS Therapy Tool to Welcome All Parts of You

Jenna is also the author of:

• Altogether You: Experiencing Personal and Spiritual Transformation with Internal Family Systems Therapy
• IFS Integration: A Comprehensive Guide to

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Learn the real reason why freedom from porn feels impossible with insights from one of my favorite movies, The Shawshank Redemption. 

“Your brain doesn’t want new things. It wants old things that it already knows how to survive.” —Chase Hughes

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How can I revive the soul of my family? Whether you're a father, a husband, or a man preparing for those roles, listen to this. Dr. Joshua Straub presents a powerful picture of what it looks like to become emotionally safe, build intimacy with your spouse, enter your child's world, and protect your family in the spiritual realm.

Joshua Straub is most renowned for his role as a husband and dad. A recovering human, he’s passionate about the ongoing journey of growth through coaching, community, and fitness. Alongside his wife, Christi, he leads Famous at Home, equipping leaders and organizations in emotional intelligence and healthy family systems. Josh is a speaker, author of seven books, marriage and relational intelligence coach, and podcast cohost. He’s had the privilege of coaching executives, entrepreneurs, entertainers, professional athletes, and nonprofit leaders, as well as serving military families across the country. At home, Josh and Christi are raising their three kids on a small homestead outside Nashville, TN, where life is full of family, faith, and a lot of fun.

Learn more at joshuastraub.com

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Famous at Home: 7 Decisions to Put Your Family Center Stage in a World Competing for Your Time, Attention, and Identity

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How does being sexually betrayed affect men? Adam Nisenson explains the phenomenon of masculine betrayal trauma and what healing looks like.

Adam Nisenson is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT). He is known as The Betrayal Shrink, a pioneering voice in men’s mental health, and the first professional to define and name the phenomenon of Masculine Betrayal Trauma.

Drawing from his own lived experience after his former spouse’s affair with her business partner over 12 years ago, Adam brings both personal understanding and clinical depth to every session, every book, and every word he shares.

Resources by Adam Nisenson:

• A Man’s Guide to Partner Betrayal (book)
• A Man’s Guide to Trust After Partner Betrayal (clinical workbook)
• No Man’s Land (guided journal)

Listen to Adam's podcast,Men Get Cheated On Too! where he breaks the silence around male betrayal trauma and gives men a voice, language, and a path forward in a society that too often leaves them behind. His work blends depth psychology, trauma-informed care, emotional accountability, and masculine healing frameworks to help men confront betrayal without shame and emerge stronger than they were before.

Learn more about masculine betrayal trauma and connect with Adam at betrayalshrink.com

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What if the very traits that got you hooked on porn—curiosity, childlike wonder, and awe—are actually keys to your freedom? As Jason Mellard explains, these qualities aren't bad; they are simply waiting to be reclaimed and redeemed. You'll learn about observation vs. obsession, building with vision vs. escaping into fantasy, and appreciating beauty vs. idolizing it...

Bonus: Stay tuned for a spontaneous musical moment where Jason inspires Drew to burst into song—belting out lyrics from The Greatest Showman and sharing how it shaped his imagination for Husband Material.

Jason Mellard is the founder of Own Your Identity, where he empowers men experiencing unwanted same-sex attraction to live the life they truly desire. Jason is a Certified High Performance Coach and Certified Husband Material Coach. He has experienced sexual abuse, same-sex attraction, and freedom from porn. Jason is committed to helping men live beyond their unwanted attractions and negative habits into a life of purpose and possibility through the power of Christ and for the glory of God.

Listen to Jason's podcast, Own Your Identity, where he provides practical tools to bring clarity and hope to men navigating unwanted same-sex attraction.

Jason is also the creator of SSAquiz.com. Take the quiz to discover how much same-sex attraction is impacting your life.

Learn more about Jason at ownyouridentitynow.com.

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What exactly is a glimmer? Why do glimmers matter for outgrowing porn? Learn 3 ways to get the most out of your glimmers—maximizing moments of joy, peace, and connection. 

Related episodes:

• Porn and Polyvagal Theory (with John Kilmer) 
• Play, Awe, & Porn Addiction: A Polyvagal Perspective 

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Where is God when we suffer? How does grief intensify sexual temptation? Why do we need to "run toward the roar" of triggers and traumas instead of avoiding them? 

Hear Davey Blackburn tell the heartbreaking story of how his wife of 7 years was murdered in their home during a break-in, leaving him as a single father to their 15-month-old son. Davey also describes how God has begun to write a beautiful redemption story of healing, forgiveness, and purpose where "nothing is wasted."

Davey Blackburn (and his wife Kristi) founded Nothing is Wasted Ministries to help people partner with God to take back their story. Learn more at nothingiswasted.com

Start here: nothingiswasted.com/starthere

Buy Davey's book:

Nothing Is Wasted: A True Story of Hope, Forgiveness, and Finding Purpose in Pain. 

Listen to Davey's podcast: nothingiswasted.com/podcast

Are you a widower? Check out refugewidowers.com

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What if the desires you've been suppressing are not bad, but simply underdeveloped? In this episode, Jay Stringer explores five core longings that drive us—and why we need to welcome them rather than try to conquer them or shut them down. You'll hear how desire is shaped by childhood experiences, pornography, and other forces—as well as how desire can be reshaped and resurrected.

Jay Stringer is a licensed mental health counselor, researcher, and speaker who helps people uncover the unexpected meaning hidden in life’s hardest challenges. He is the award-winning author of Unwanted: How Sexual Brokenness Reveals Our Way to Healing and lives in New York City with his wife, Heather, and their two children. Learn more at jay-stringer.com

Buy Jay's new book:

Desire: The Longings Inside Us and the New Science of How We Love, Heal, and Grow

Guest interviews do not constitute an endorsement. We encourage discernment—grab what's good, drop the rest.

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What is redemptive risk? Why is it essential for healing and outgrowing porn? In this episode, you'll learn why and how to embrace redemptive risk, the difference between dirty pain and clean pain, and three steps to consider as you discern your next redemptive risk:

1. Start with "why"
2. Count the cost
3. Own your strength

What redemptive risk(s) are you currently taking? Let us know in the Husband Material Community!

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