So you want to outgrow porn. But how? How do you change your brain, heal your heart, and save your relationship? Welcome to Husband Material with Drew Boa, where we answer all these questions and more! Each episode will help you achieve lasting freedom from porn more quickly and permanently—without fighting an exhausting battle. Porn is a pacifier. This podcast will help you outgrow it and become a sexually healthy man of God.
How can I revive the soul of my family? Whether you're a father, a husband, or a man preparing for those roles, listen to this. Dr. Joshua Straub presents a powerful picture of what it looks like to become emotionally safe, build intimacy with your spouse, enter your child's world, and protect your family in the spiritual realm.
Joshua Straub is most renowned for his role as a husband and dad. A recovering human, he’s passionate about the ongoing journey of growth through coaching, community, and fitness. Alongside his wife, Christi, he leads Famous at Home, equipping leaders and organizations in emotional intelligence and healthy family systems. Josh is a speaker, author of seven books, marriage and relational intelligence coach, and podcast cohost. He’s had the privilege of coaching executives, entrepreneurs, entertainers, professional athletes, and nonprofit leaders, as well as serving military families across the country. At home, Josh and Christi are raising their three kids on a small homestead outside Nashville, TN, where life is full of family, faith, and a lot of fun.
Learn more at joshuastraub.com
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How does being sexually betrayed affect men? Adam Nisenson explains the phenomenon of masculine betrayal trauma and what healing looks like.
Adam Nisenson is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and Certified Sex Addiction Therapist (CSAT). He is known as The Betrayal Shrink, a pioneering voice in men’s mental health, and the first professional to define and name the phenomenon of Masculine Betrayal Trauma.
Drawing from his own lived experience after his former spouse’s affair with her business partner over 12 years ago, Adam brings both personal understanding and clinical depth to every session, every book, and every word he shares.
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Listen to Adam's podcast,Men Get Cheated On Too! where he breaks the silence around male betrayal trauma and gives men a voice, language, and a path forward in a society that too often leaves them behind. His work blends depth psychology, trauma-informed care, emotional accountability, and masculine healing frameworks to help men confront betrayal without shame and emerge stronger than they were before.
Learn more about masculine betrayal trauma and connect with Adam at betrayalshrink.com
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What if the very traits that got you hooked on porn—curiosity, childlike wonder, and awe—are actually keys to your freedom? As Jason Mellard explains, these qualities aren't bad; they are simply waiting to be reclaimed and redeemed. You'll learn about observation vs. obsession, building with vision vs. escaping into fantasy, and appreciating beauty vs. idolizing it...
Bonus: Stay tuned for a spontaneous musical moment where Jason inspires Drew to burst into song—belting out lyrics from The Greatest Showman and sharing how it shaped his imagination for Husband Material.
Jason Mellard is the founder of Own Your Identity, where he empowers men experiencing unwanted same-sex attraction to live the life they truly desire. Jason is a Certified High Performance Coach and Certified Husband Material Coach. He has experienced sexual abuse, same-sex attraction, and freedom from porn. Jason is committed to helping men live beyond their unwanted attractions and negative habits into a life of purpose and possibility through the power of Christ and for the glory of God.
Listen to Jason's podcast, Own Your Identity, where he provides practical tools to bring clarity and hope to men navigating unwanted same-sex attraction.
Jason is also the creator of SSAquiz.com. Take the quiz to discover how much same-sex attraction is impacting your life.
Learn more about Jason at ownyouridentitynow.com.
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What exactly is a glimmer? Why do glimmers matter for outgrowing porn? Learn 3 ways to get the most out of your glimmers—maximizing moments of joy, peace, and connection.
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Where is God when we suffer? How does grief intensify sexual temptation? Why do we need to "run toward the roar" of triggers and traumas instead of avoiding them?
Hear Davey Blackburn tell the heartbreaking story of how his wife of 7 years was murdered in their home during a break-in, leaving him as a single father to their 15-month-old son. Davey also describes how God has begun to write a beautiful redemption story of healing, forgiveness, and purpose where "nothing is wasted."
Davey Blackburn (and his wife Kristi) founded Nothing is Wasted Ministries to help people partner with God to take back their story. Learn more at nothingiswasted.com
Start here: nothingiswasted.com/starthere
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Nothing Is Wasted: A True Story of Hope, Forgiveness, and Finding Purpose in Pain.
Listen to Davey's podcast: nothingiswasted.com/podcast
Are you a widower? Check out refugewidowers.com
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What if the desires you've been suppressing are not bad, but simply underdeveloped? In this episode, Jay Stringer explores five core longings that drive us—and why we need to welcome them rather than try to conquer them or shut them down. You'll hear how desire is shaped by childhood experiences, pornography, and other forces—as well as how desire can be reshaped and resurrected.
Jay Stringer is a licensed mental health counselor, researcher, and speaker who helps people uncover the unexpected meaning hidden in life’s hardest challenges. He is the award-winning author of Unwanted: How Sexual Brokenness Reveals Our Way to Healing and lives in New York City with his wife, Heather, and their two children. Learn more at jay-stringer.com
Buy Jay's new book:
Desire: The Longings Inside Us and the New Science of How We Love, Heal, and Grow
Guest interviews do not constitute an endorsement. We encourage discernment—grab what's good, drop the rest.
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What is redemptive risk? Why is it essential for healing and outgrowing porn? In this episode, you'll learn why and how to embrace redemptive risk, the difference between dirty pain and clean pain, and three steps to consider as you discern your next redemptive risk:
What redemptive risk(s) are you currently taking? Let us know in the Husband Material Community!
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Men need men. In this episode, Tom Zuniga champions the value of brotherhood and "chosen family"—especially in a culture where romantic marriage seems like the only place where intimacy is possible. Tom shares his story of growing up feeling lonely and different, experiencing same-sex attraction, and discovering the beauty of following Jesus in community with other men.
Tom Zuniga is the Director of Your Other Brothers, a community where Christian men are navigating matters of faith, sexuality, and masculinity. Together. Check out their blogs and podcasts, or explore their retreats and other community offerings at yourotherbrothers.org
Learn more about the overarching nonprofit ministry of Your Other Family at yourotherfamily.org, as well as their new women’s community of Your Other Sisters at yourothersisters.org
Hear Tom Zuniga interview Drew Boa at https://yourotherbrothers.org/convocast/yob-convocast-104-tom-amp-drew-boa-outgrow-porn-examine-fetishes-and-do-inner-child-work
Connect with Tom at thomasmarkz.com
Disclaimer: Tom and Your Other Family offer valuable perspectives and wonderful resources, and we're honored to introduce them to you. As with any content, we encourage you to take what helps you grow and leave the rest behind.
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In this episode, longtime friend of the podcast and author Sathiya Sam shares why porn recovery can literally save lives, what true freedom looks like (eternal, internal, and external) and practical advice on how to find purpose beyond porn.
Sathiya Sam, founder of Deep Clean Coaching, helps men overcome pornography addiction, inspired by his own 15-year journey. Author of The Last Relapse and host of The Man Within, he has guided thousands of men to freedom. Learn more at sathiyasam.com
To celebrate 10 years of freedom from porn and 1 million podcast downloads, Sathiya is hosting a giveaway. Enter here: deepcleancoaching.com/giveaway
"You don't set people free just so they can say they're free; you set people free so they can fly." —Sathiya Sam
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Do you know what it's like to feel numb, drained, and disconnected? This is the most common precursor to watching porn: the "flop" reaction. In this episode, you'll learn what the flop reaction is, why it's not necessarily bad, and three ways to navigate low-energy moments without crashing into a relapse.
Strategy #1: Flop with a purpose
Strategy #2: Flop with a friend
Strategy #3: Flop with your body
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How does physical fitness support sexual and spiritual health? In this episode, Alex VanHouten describes what it looks like to faithfully care for your body. You'll learn about the twin pitfalls of pride/envy and gluttony/sloth, how working out can help you process emotions and sexual urges, and what fitness is ultimately about: reclaiming the territory of your body for the kingdom of God.
Alex VanHouten is an exercise scientist, health coach, and the founder of Faithful Fitness. With over 20 years of experience in fitness coaching, he has empowered individuals to transform their health through intelligent, science-based training, all while grounding his approach in the hope of the gospel. As the host of the Faithful Fitness Podcast and leader of the Faithful Fitness community, Coach Alex provides valuable tools to help people steward their bodies well for God’s glory. Learn more at faithfulfitness.co
Buy Alex's new book:
Faithful Fitness: A 40-Day Devotional for Christian Health and Stewardship
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