Dwell Differently

Natalie Abbott

Dwell helps you memorize ONE BIBLE VERSE every month. On our weekly podcast we talk about what our verse means, why it matters, and how it intersects with our daily lives.

  • 38 minutes 25 seconds
    The With-ness of God // Felicity Carswell & Sarah Dargue

    "I know my heart, and I know my sin, and I know how frail and fickle and feeble my heart is. So...what a comfort to just keep coming back to the Lord. The Lord is faithful to his promise. He is faithful to his word here, that he will never leave or forsake, even when I am so quick and my heart is so prone to wander."

    — Sarah Dargue

    Today's Episode: Join Natalie as she sits down with sisters Felicity and Sarah from the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea podcast to discuss the wonder of God's faithful presence with his faithless people. Together, they delve into Deuteronomy 31:8, discussing the beauty of community, the challenges of life, and the steadfast promise that God will never leave nor forsake us. Join them for an inspiring conversation about faith, courage, and the transformative power of Scripture in our everyday lives.

    This month's memory verse: "The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." — Deuteronomy 31:8

    Today's guests: Felicity Carswell is from England but currently lives near Chicago with her book-selling husband, Jonathan, along with their two young sons, Rufus and Billy. She loves to teach the Bible, both locally and further afield, and disciple women on a one-to-one basis. She co-hosts, along with Sarah, the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea podcast.
    Sarah Dargue is married to David, and mum to Toby, Sam & Emily. They live in London, where her husband is the pastor of their local church. She loves teaching and training women in her church family through the women's ministry. She's the co-host of the Bible study podcast Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea, and the author of Bumps, Babies, and the Gospel.

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    14 January 2026, 6:00 am
  • 23 minutes 8 seconds
    Deuteronomy 31:8 Deep Dive // Trust the God Who Won't Abandon You

    "Whatever precipice you’re standing on or whatever dark valley you’re walking through, whatever uncertainty, whatever diagnosis or decision or adventure or woe. The Lord himself goes before you. Yes, he himself. And he will be with you."

    — Natalie Abbott

    Today's episode: Join Natalie Abbott as she explores the profound promise in Deuteronomy 31:8 that God will never abandon his people. She delves into the enduring faithfulness of God to Joshua, to his people throughout time, and to his people still today. She shows how the promise that God will always be with us and goes before us, finds its fulfillment in Jesus. And she helps us see how God's constant presence offers us strength and courage in times of fear and discouragement. This message will encourage you to trust in the God who is constant and safe. 

    This month's memory verse: The LORD himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged. — Deuteronomy 31:8

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    5 January 2026, 12:00 pm
  • 27 minutes 10 seconds
    Gratitude and Goals // Natalie & Vera

    "I want to speak the words of life. I want to believe the words of life. I want to speak over myself the words of life. And you just can't do that unless they're in you."

    — Natalie Abbott

    Today's episode: Join sisters and Dwell cofounders, Vera Schmitz and Natalie Abbott as they walk through the past year and how they were impacted by God's Word. You'll hear about the power and the importance of getting Scripture into your heart and mind. And hopefully you'll be inspired to memorize even just one verse and see how God will use his Word powerfully in your own life. 

    This month's memory verse: “The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned.” — Isaiah 9:2 

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    31 December 2025, 8:00 am
  • 39 minutes 49 seconds
    From Darkness to Light // Patrick Mahon’s Testimony

    "One night I'm sitting out in my car, smoking a cigarette, and I look up at the church (cause it's always lit up) and the tree that's on the front corner...is engulfed in flames. I got joy for a second, you know. Like, 'oh this is good.' But I'm looking at it, and it's burning...but it's not being consumed."

    — Patrick Mahon

    Today's Episode: Listen in as Natalie's friend Patrick Mahon shares his remarkable testimony of God's work in his life to bring him out of the kingdom of darkness and into the kingdom of light. It's a powerful story of miraculous transformation. You won't want to miss it! Note: this episode is not appropriate for younger listeners. 

    This month's memory verse: “The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned.” — Isaiah 9:2 

    Today's guest: Patrick Mahon is a member of Central Church in Jefferson City, Missouri, where Natalie's husband is the pastor. 

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    24 December 2025, 6:00 am
  • 29 minutes 9 seconds
    Step Out into the Light // Natalie & Vera

    "The amount of time that we spend on our screens, the amount of time that we spend numbing ourselves, the amount of time that we "check out" as people, as parents, as friends....It's amazing to me how more and more isolated we have become as a culture in the last 20 years and the last 5 years and the last year."

    — Natalie Abbott

    Today's episode: Join Dwell Differently cofounders and sisters Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz as they talk about darkness and light from a biblical perspective. They share personal stories, including Vera's childhood fear of the dark. They talk about the temptation to isolate in the dark and to numb ourselves with false comforts instead of walking in the true freedom and peace we find only in the light of Jesus. You'll love this heartfelt encouragement to bask in the warmth of God's light.

    This month's memory verse: "Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will be joyful in God my Savior." — Habakkuk 3:18

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    17 December 2025, 6:00 am
  • 36 minutes 32 seconds
    Share the Light! // David Platt

    "The picture is to just faithfully share light—be light and share light—and trust that God is going to open eyes and bring people out of darkness in his time and in his power. And we get to be a part of it." 

    — David Platt

    Today's Episode: Join Natalie as she talks with David Platt about God's work of rescuing people out of darkness and bringing them into the kingdom of his light. You'll hear them talk about the beauty of God's Word and how it shines like a light in people's lives, bringing freedom and salvation and guidance and life. They also share powerful stories about how the they've seen that light dawn in the lives of people. You'll go away encouraged to walk in the light and to share the light of Jesus with others too.  

    This month's memory verse: “The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned.” — Isaiah 9:2 

    Today's guest: David Platt serves as a Lead Pastor for McLean Bible Church. He is also the Founder of Radical, an organization that makes Jesus known among the nations. David lives in the Washington, D.C. metro area with his wife and children. 

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    10 December 2025, 6:00 am
  • 27 minutes 31 seconds
    Isaiah 9:2 Deep Dive // The Gospel of Light

    "The gospel story remains the same—that the God of the universe has stepped into the darkness of this world and is offering us life and light."

    — Natalie Abbott

    Today's episode: Join host Natalie Abbott as she delves into the profound imagery of light and darkness in the book of Isaiah. She follows the theme of light throughout the book and shows us how it tells God's salvation story, spanning thousands of years and going on into eternity. More than that she invites us into God's story of light and life, challenging us to allow God to continue to break into our personal darkness and to shine his light in the world. 

    This month's memory verse: "The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned.” — Isaiah 9:2

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    1 December 2025, 7:00 am
  • 35 minutes 9 seconds
    Thrive Again // Clarissa Moll

    "You don't want to just 'hang in there' forever. You want to be able to thrive again."

    —Clarissa Moll

    Today's Episode: Natalie talks with Clarissa Moll about her personal journey of loss—discussing the impact of her husband's death and how she navigated grief with faith. Clarissa helps us understand the complexity of finding joy even amidst deep sorrow. She talks honestly about struggling for faith and the importance of community. Clarissa also talks about her dedication to helping different age groups cope with grief, creating resources to help both kids and adults.

    This month's memory verse: "Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will be joyful in God my Savior." — Habakkuk 3:18

    Today's guest: Clarissa Moll is an award-winning writer and podcaster who helps bereaved people find flourishing after loss. Clarissa’s writing appears in Christianity Today, The Gospel Coalition, RELEVANT, Modern Loss, Grief Digest and more. She co-hosted Christianity Today’s “Surprised by Grief” podcast and produces Christianity Today's flagship news podcast, "The Bulletin." Clarissa’s debut book, Beyond the Darkness was a best-selling new release in 2022. She is the author of the Beyond the Darkness Devotional, Hurt Help Hope: A Real Conversation about Teen Grief and Life after Loss, and Hope Comes to Stay.

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    26 November 2025, 7:00 am
  • 24 minutes 40 seconds
    Defiant Joy // Natalie & Vera

    "These are the words that we need in our own despondency and our sadness and the hard reality of living in the world that we live in. We need a defiant, 'Yet I will rejoice in the Lord. I will be joyful in God my Savior.'"

    — Natalie Abbott

    Today's episode: Join Dwell Differently cofounders and sisters Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz as they talk about finding joy even in the toughest situations—in the Bible and in their own lives. They help us understand Habakkuk's struggle for defiant joy in spite of his fear and his complete lack. They also talk about the gritty daily reality of choosing joy every day—especially when life feels bleak. They are compassionate and compelling. It's a message you won't want to miss.

    This month's memory verse: "Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will be joyful in God my Savior." — Habakkuk 3:18

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    19 November 2025, 7:00 am
  • 29 minutes 44 seconds
    Access Joy // Nicole Zasowski

    "Joy is accessible to all of us now, if we've put our trust in Jesus. This is something we can access and practice."

    — Nicole Zasowski

    Today's Episode: In this heartfelt episode, Nicole Zasowski sits down with Natalie Abbott to chat about the beautiful yet challenging journey of finding joy in the midst of life's trials. They discuss the biblical practice of speaking truth into circumstances as a means or rewiring our feelings and rooting our hope in Christ. Nicole shows how joy can be a choice we make, even when life feels tough. She opens up about her own experiences, sharing how practicing joy and wrestling with God can deepen our relationship with Him. The conversation is a warm reminder of the power of hope. Listeners are invited to embrace joy and trust in God's promises, no matter what life throws their way.

    This month's memory verse: "Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will be joyful in God my Savior." — Habakkuk 3:18

    Today's guest: Nicole Zasowski is a licensed marriage and family therapist, sought-after speaker, and author. She lives in Connecticut with her husband and three young children.

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    12 November 2025, 7:00 am
  • 26 minutes 4 seconds
    Habakkuk 3:18 Deep Dive // Tremble and Rejoice

    "There are things going on that are difficult...and yet I will rejoice in the Lord."

    — Natalie Abbott

    Today's episode: Join host Natalie Abbott as she delves into the profound beauty of finding joy even in our struggles. In this episode, Natalie walks us through Habakkuk's journey from honest criticism of the injustices he sees to complete trust in the God who is just and who saves those who trust in him. You'll be encouraged to be honest and to trust in God through your own trials.  saying with Habakkuk, "Yet, I will rejoice in the LORD!"

    This month's memory verse: "Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will be joyful in God my Savior." — Habakkuk 3:18

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    3 November 2025, 6:00 am
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