Three true crime creators walk into a conversation about advocacy, burnout, ethics, and community. Josh Hallmark (True Crime Bullshit, Unsafe Spaces) is joined by Eric Carter Landin (True Consequences, AdvocacyCon, Angels’ Voices Silenced No More) and Patrick Hinds (True Crime Obsessed) for a raw, funny, and grounded roundtable on what it takes to make true crime responsibly, how listener relationships can get complicated fast, and why trauma informed spaces for families matter.

Eric shares how his brother Jacob’s case shaped his life and work, including how a listener driven “10 Days of Jacob” campaign created enough public pressure to force movement in the case. Patrick talks about why True Crime Obsessed stopped using the “true crime comedy” label and what it means to bring levity without disrespect. Josh opens up about the stress of production, perfectionism, and the reality that every five minutes of audio is hours of work.

They also talk mental health supports for people featured in documentaries and podcasts, navigating feedback and trolls, parasocial dynamics, and what they are listening to right now. Content note: Discussion includes child death, violence, trauma, and institutional responses to serious cases.

Guests Eric Carter Landin: True Consequences, AdvocacyCon, Angels’ Voices Silenced No More
Patrick Hinds: True Crime Obsessed
Josh Hallmark: True Crime Bullshit, Unsafe Spaces

Topics

• True Crime Conversations roundtable
• Advocacy and self care
• Ethical true crime storytelling
• Trauma informed support for families
• Listener boundaries and parasocial dynamics
• Media pressure and burnout
• Podcast recommendations

Timestamps 00:00 Intro and True Crime Conversations
01:10 Origin stories
08:45 Production stress and burnout
12:10 Humor, ethics, and “true crime comedy”
17:40 Mental health support for participants
26:00 Listener interactions and boundaries
36:30 Jacob’s case and “10 Days of Jacob”
44:40 AdvocacyCon and trauma informed care
52:40 What they’re listening to
59:10 Wrap up

Podcast recommendations mentioned
Who Took Misty Copsey
The Wild Boys
Pretend 
The Curse of America’s Next Top Model
Blink

Links
AdvocacyCon
Angels’ Voices Silenced No More
True Crime Obsessed
True Crime Bullshit
Unsafe Spaces













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I sit down with my mom to discuss Jacob's case and where we go from here. 

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In this episode, Eric shares updates in his brother’s case, including a heated meeting with the prosecutor. 

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Dione Begay was born on March 28th, 1975. She was the eldest of six children and is described by her sister Christine as having a positive perspective on life and a witty sense of humor which is missed by her loved ones. Dione was beautiful, vibrant, outgoing, intelligent, and family-orientated. She was a mother of four daughters and had unique, close relationships with her entire family. Dione had several tribal connections via her parents, Debbie and Laffie Begay. Dione’s mother Debbie is part of the Dakotas ‘Yankton’ and ‘Arikara’ tribe, and her father, the ‘Navajo’ and ‘Dine’ tribe. As a Native American woman, Dione Begay is one of many Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women in New Mexico who is yet to receive justice, despite the brutality inflicted upon her and the obvious circumstances of the crime. Her family's pleas for help have also continued to be ignored. This is the story of Dione Begay Thomas.
Justice for Dion FB Page
https://www.facebook.com/JusticeforDioneThomas

Sources:
https://threesisterscollective.org/
https://sourcenm.com/2022/05/06/vigil-for-the-missing-and-stolen-reclaims-santa-fe-plaza/ https://www.iad.state.nm.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/NM_MMIWR_Report_FINAL_WEB_v120920.pdf https://gallupsun.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7618:mystery-at-colonial-motel&catid=175:public-safety-&Itemid=602 https://www.iad.state.nm.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/MMIW-Task-Force-110819-Transcript-from-first-meeting.pdf https://www.iad.state.nm.us/about-us/history/#:~:text=New%20Mexico's%20Twenty%2DThree%20Tribes,of%20the%20state's%20entire%20population https://www.iad.state.nm.us/policy-and-legislation/missing-murdered-indigenous-women-relatives/
https://sourcenm.com/2022/05/05/justice-for-relatives/#:~:text=New%20Mexico%20has%20the%20highest,cases%20between%202014%20and%202019.
https://www.niwrc.org/resources/report/new-mexico-missing-and-murdered-indigenous-women-and-relatives-task-force-report https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/feb/03/murder-in-big-horn-showtime-docuseries-montana-missing-murdered-indigenous-women#:~:text=The%20roots%20of%20the%20MMIW,these%20federal%20policies%2C%20and%20as

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I want to introduce you to a new show called Media Pressure.
Media Pressure Season One features the Untold Story of Maura Murray, hosted by Maura’s sister, Julie Murray. Media Pressure is the premiere show for the new network by Sarah Turney, Voices for Justice Media, and is executive produced by Sarah Turney. You’ve heard Maura Murray’s story from so many others in the past; for the first time ever, you will hear from those who knew Maura, many of whom have never spoken to the media previously. Media Pressure features exclusive interviews and brand-new information about Maura and the case that has never been shared before. Media Pressure is the most intimate look at the Maura Murray case yet.

https://www.mediapressure.com/

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Hi- This is my update and the latest episode of True Consequences. I wish it was better news.

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On Saturday, October 11th, 2003, police were called to County Road 136B, 10 miles north of Espanola, following the discovery of a deceased female – 37-year-old Yvonne Martinez. Yvonne had been brutally murdered, and it was clear from the scene that a struggle had occurred. Despite the investigation identifying several suspects and many crucial pieces of evidence, the case has continued to remain unsolved for over 20 years.

If you have any information regarding this case, please contact the New Mexico State Police Cold Case Homicide Unit at (505) 827-9066 or email: [email protected]
Thanks for Fern Bushnall for writing and researching this case.
References:
NM State Police Case File
https://www.newspapers.com/article/rio-grande-sun/135217149/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/rio-grande-sun/135216685/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-santa-fe-new-mexican/135216873/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-santa-fe-new-mexican/135216765/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/albuquerque-journal/135217226/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/albuquerque-journal/135317907/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-santa-fe-new-mexican/135216993/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-santa-fe-new-mexican/135217329/
https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/espa-ola-man-fatally-struck-by-truck-on-n-
m-14-south-of-santa-fe/article_a9c3b45f-ecc9-5141-8e26-8863c151cd3d.html
https://www.riograndesun.com/obituaries/gabriel-medardo-archuleta-iii/article_6f5cd87d-04f6-
512b-ace6-3ec1bbca1aaf.html
https://www.devargasfuneral.com/obituaries/gabriel-archuletaiii
https://www.newspapers.com/article/rio-grande-sun/135524803/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/rio-grande-sun/135524828/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/albuquerque-journal/135585797/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/rio-grande-sun/135585802/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-santa-fe-new-mexican/135647532/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-santa-fe-new-mexican/135647742/
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-santa-fe-new-mexican/135647749/

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Houston, TX and her destination of Corpus Christi.
Her son, Chien Si fought tooth and nail to keep his mom’s case in spotlight— to make people care… but without clues pointing to an answer, the attention on Tot’s case tapered off, and the trail eventually went cold. To this day, her case remains unsolved. This is “The Incredible Life of Tot Harriman, Part Two” from Murder, She Told, hosted by Kristen Seavey. Originally published in October 2022.

For sources and photos from this episode, visit: https://murdershetold.com/episodes/totharriman-2

If you have any information on Tot’s disappearance, I encourage you to contact the League City PD at (281) 332-2566.

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PART ONE
In 2001, 57-year-old Tot Harriman vanished into thin air while on the road in Texas between
Houston and Corpus Christi. But Tot had an incredible life, and it’s a story that deserves to be heard. To understand where Tot was in life at the moment she vanished, you have to understand her journey to get there. This is “The Incredible Life of Tot Harriman, Part One” from Murder, She Told, hosted by Kristen Seavey. Originally published in September 2022.

For sources and photos from this episode, visit: https://murdershetold.com/episodes/totharriman-1

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About Murder, She Told:
Murder, She Told is an award-winning true-crime podcast created and hosted by victim’s advocate, Kristen Seavey, that dives into the lesser-known cold cases and true crime stories from New England and beyond. Murder, She Told uses investigative and detailed storytelling, often weaving in original interviews with the people closest to the case. Rooted in deep research, straightforward narratives, and the victims and their families at the center of every story, Murder, She Told will speak to any listener no matter where they call home.

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This is a cross-over episode from my other show Crimelines and Consequences. We interviewed Laurah Norton from the Fall Line Podcast to discuss her new book that is out now wherever you get your favorite books. Checkout https://www.laythemtorestbook.com/ and https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/

If you haven't checked out Crimelines and Consequences I strongly encourage you do to so!



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Today is a bonus episode and I will soon be back from hiatus with new episodes. But for now listen to Myself and Navigating Advocacy for some updates as well as a look back at our Honk and Wave in Albuquerque, New Mexico in August.

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