IFS Talks

Aníbal Henriques & Tisha Shull

IFS Talks is an audio series to deepen connections with the Internal Family Systems Model through conversations with lead trainers, authors, practitioners and users. In these audio interviews, we will have the opportunity to draw out aspects of IFS Lead Trainers and skilled presenters to create a user-friendly format for listeners to get to know each trainer or practitioner, their background, in and before IFS. With candid, self-led dialogue, trainers and practitioners can share their specific interests with listeners interested in deepening their inner knowledge and IFS practice. Cece Sykes, Susan McConnell, Mary Kruger, Pam Krause, Lisa Spiegel, Martha Sweezy, Art Mones, Ann Sinko, Paul Neustadt, Frank Anderson, Larry Rosenberg, Toni Herbine-Blank, and many more among the interviewees. Among the topics in theTalks: - All Erotic Parts are Welcome, with Larry Rosenberg - IFS, Trauma and Neuroscience, with Frank Anderson - From Reactive to Self Led Parenting, with Paul Neustadt - IFS as a Metamodel of Therapy, with Art Mones - The Role of Legacy Burdens on Anxiety, Depression and Shame, with Ann Sinko - Shame and Guilt as central for IFS work, with Martha Sweezy - Bringing IFS to Children and Parents, with Lisa Spiegel - IFS with Children and Adolescents, with Pam Krause - IFS on Addictions and Eating Disorders, with Mary Kruger - Embodying the Internal Family, with Susan McConnell - Bringing IFS to Extreme Parts, with Cece Sykes

  • 39 minutes 5 seconds
    Bringing IFS to Children, Parenting, and Schools - with Lisa Spiegel and Claire Stubbs

    Today on IFS Talks, we’re excited to welcome Lisa Spiegel and Claire Stubbs. Lisa is the founder of Soho Parenting in New York City. She’s an author and a certified IFS therapist and consultant who has worked with children and families for over 40 years and teaches therapists around the world.  

    Claire Stubbs is a chartered counseling psychologist, author, and IFS therapist in the UK, specializing in neurodiversity, trauma, and emotionally based school avoidance. She is the author of Emotionally Based School Avoidance: A Compassionate and supportive companion for you and your child. Today, we will be speaking with them about using IFS withchildren and families. Welcome, Lisa and Claire! 

    We are excited to celebrate the launch of IFS Collected Wisdom: Conversations with Experienced Voices in Internal Family Systems a book that brings together voices, reflections, and lived experience from across the IFS community. This book was created from a desire to honor those voices, and to acknowledge that wisdom in IFS doesn’t live in one place or one person. It lives in relationship, in experience, and in the field as it evolves. Thank you for being a listener, for being part of this community,  and for continuing to explore what becomes possible when Self leads. We hope that IFS Collected Wisdom can become a companion in your IFS journey. Here is a link to the IFS Collected Wisdom book contents. 

     

    28 February 2026, 6:29 pm
  • 38 minutes 31 seconds
    Exploring Countertransference Through the Fire Drill Technique — with Joanne Twombly

    In today’s episode,  we speak with Joanne Twombly about a powerful IFS technique commonly known as "The Fire Drill, based on Joanne's chapter called The Fire Drill: Sorting Through Countertransference with IFS."

    And we also announce the recent publication of  IFS Collected Wisdom:Conversations with Experienced Voices in Internal Family Systems.

    We are deeply grateful to all those who contributed to this project, and endorsed this volume, including Richard Schwartz, Susan  McConnell, Cece  Sykes,  Joanne Twombly,  Einat  Bronstein, Bob  Falconer, and many others. 

    We hope the book will be a companion on your IFS journey.

    Here is a link to the IFS Collected Wisdom contents.

     

    1 February 2026, 7:49 pm
  • 56 minutes 57 seconds
    Honoring and welcoming Self-Like Parts, with Paul Neustadt

    Our guest is Paul Neustadt,  a clinical social worker and IFS Senior Co-lead Trainer. Paul has worked in community mental health and the counseling program of a working-class state university as well as having been the director of a community-based counseling and prevention program. Paul sees himself as a spiritual being in a human body, on a healing journey, in this life to learn lessons, to connect with his soul, and to live in accordance with his life purpose. Part of his life purpose has been to share the gift of IFS with others. In this episode, we discuss the qualities and virtues of Self-like parts, and how to welcome, honor, and genuinely validate them in a non-shaming way that allows more Self energy to emerge.

    1 November 2025, 9:36 am
  • 24 minutes 41 seconds
    Brain, Mind, and Parts through a Neuroscience Lens

    Today we welcome Catia Vinnik.  Catia Vinnik is a neuroscientist and science communicator who has dedicated over 20 years to understanding the brain—from sensory processing and memory to molecular mechanisms underlying complex behaviors. 

    Recently, she has translated this extensive research into practical psychoeducation tools and interactive games for therapists.

     

    Catia graduated from medical school and earned her PhD in cognitive neuroscience in Italy, during which she discovered a novel auditory illusion. 

    She founded the "Behaving Brain" project to bridge neuroscience and psychotherapy, creating accessible tools such as Brain Coping Cards that therapists can use with their clients. 

     

    Her belief that learning should be active, shapes workshops on the neuroscience of addiction, anxiety, depression, trauma, and other therapy-related topics by using interactive educational games that clarify complex neural interactions in the client's brain and how therapy taps into these processes.

     

    Dr. Vinnik is trained in Internal Family Systems, a model she values highly for its insightful perspective on the human mind.

    27 July 2025, 10:39 am
  • 1 hour 19 minutes
    The Q&A Session with Martha Sweezy

    This episode is a recording of an open Q&A session with Martha Sweezy. 

    Trigger warning:
    All questions were submitted by participants and focused primarily on Martha’s area of expertise: shame and guilt. 
    Please note that Martha Sweezy makes political comments in this episode.

    22 May 2025, 4:07 pm
  • 1 hour 20 minutes
    The Nature and Healing of Exiles, with Cece Sykes

    Today we are welcoming back Cece Sykes. Cece is a senior trainer at the Internal Family Systems Institute with over thirty-five years of clinical experience specializing in recovery from trauma and addiction. Her chapter on addictive processes appears in IFS: Innovations & Elaborations. She is a co-author of the book, Treating Addictive Processes with Internal Family Systems Therapy, published in 2023. Cece also developed the Heart Lessons of the Journey retreat for an on-going study of therapist narratives. She lectures and consults internationally on these and other related subjects. Cece lives and works in the Chicago area.  Today, we will be speaking with her about the Nature and Healing of Exiles in IFS therapy. 


     

    10 April 2025, 10:01 am
  • 59 minutes 17 seconds
    Climate Crisis from Inside Out with Natalie Thomas and Paul Neustadt

    Paul Neustadt is an IFS Senior Co-Lead Trainer. He has taught workshops on The Gifts of our Exiles, The Power of Presence in IFS; Self Led Parenting; and a number of other topics. He teaches a monthly seminar for level 1 graduates focused on integrating the skills learned in level 1 that begins in October. In his private practice he now focuses on providing individual and group consultation to IFS therapists. For 17 years he was director of a community counseling and prevention program for children, adolescents, and their families. Paul has also worked in a college counseling center and community mental health center, and taught couples and family therapy in a family therapy institute and two graduate programs. As an IFS trainer, Paul creates a safe, accepting atmosphere, attends thoughtfully to group process, and ensures that all parts are welcome. He is known for his clear, down to earth, and open-hearted manner. 

     

    Natalie Thomas is a Registered Psychotherapist and IFS therapist in private practice and a Professor of Philosophy, specializing in animal and environmental ethics. She has presented and led workshops on the application of IFS for those experiencing climate distress, and on ways IFS can inform ecotherapy and nature-based therapies. She also holds monthly climate cafes and trains others to facilitate these, using an IFS lens. She is a Regional Coordinator for the Climate Psychology Alliance of North America, and her current research is focused on the creation of an IFS-informed approach to climate-aware therapy. Parts & Self has published two of her pieces on IFS and animals, and IFS and climate distress. Additionally, she has also been featured in an episode of ‘The One Inside’ which focused on IFS, Self and our connection to nature, and has presented at the latest IFS Conference on IFS, climate distress and ecotherapy. Her private practice specializes in the use of IFS for those suffering from trauma, grief and climate distress, and she also offers workshops, retreats and trainings in these areas. 

    Here a link to Natalie's website and Climate Cafes 
     

    22 February 2025, 6:12 pm
  • 41 minutes 54 seconds
    Self-led motherhood: supporting mothers around the world

    In this episode, we welcome Ana Morante, Ann-Katrin Bockmann, and Mary Petro to discuss the topic of Self-led motherhood. They will be sharing several important projects that integrate IFS principles and techniques to help support mothers around the world, including those at various stages of their motherhood journey and those who are parenting under extremely challenging conditions, such as poverty and life in war-torn regions. Here is a link to the project’s website,  for those interested in joining this project. 

    26 January 2025, 7:50 pm
  • 1 hour 32 minutes
    IFS for Complex Trauma and Dissociation, with Joanne Twombly

    Today we will be speaking with Joanne about the second edition of her book, Trauma and Dissociation Informed Internal Family Systems: How to Successfully Treat Complex PTSD and Dissociative Disorders, and asking Joanne some follow-up questions to the interview we did with her two years ago, in November 2022. We find this conversation very interesting and valuable for those using IFS with clients with severe complex trauma. We hope you enjoy it and find it useful.

    20 November 2024, 12:27 pm
  • 47 minutes 11 seconds
    IFS and Autism with Sarah Bergenfield - Part 2

    Our guest today is Sarah Bergenfield, a Somatic Psychologist, and a Level 3-trained and Certified IFS practitioner, specializing in autism. Sarah holds a master’s degree in embodiment studies and wrote her thesis on autism as an embodied condition that impacts the brain, body, and mind. Sarah is a student in the Applied Neuroscience program at Kings College in London and begins her Ph.D. in Psychology in September at the California Institute of Integral Studies. 
    She is a wife, mom to three children, and dog mom to Magnus, her assistance dog. Sarah is the co-author of the book, Embodying Autism – Navigating your Autistic Brain, Body, and Mind, written with Martha Sweezey and published next year by New Harbinger. She is an international speaker and educator on the topic of understanding autism as an embodied condition. 
    We will be speaking with Sarah about the nature of autism (Episode Part 1) and (Episode Part 2) how IFS concepts and techniques can be understood through the lens of autism, how IFS therapy can be helpful for autistic clients, and some special considerations to keep in mind when working with autistic clients with IFS.  
    Hope you enjoy the episode and find it useful.

    29 October 2024, 6:19 pm
  • 44 minutes
    IFS and Autism with Sarah Bergenfield - Part 1

    Our guest today is Sarah Bergenfield, a Somatic Psychologist, and a Level 3-trained and Certified IFS practitioner, specializing in autism. Sarah holds a master’s degree in embodiment studies and wrote her thesis on autism as an embodied condition that impacts the brain, body, and mind. Sarah is a student in the Applied Neuroscience program at Kings College in London and begins her Ph.D. in Psychology in September at the California Institute of Integral Studies. 
    She is a wife, mom to three children, and dog mom to Magnus, her assistance dog. Sarah is the co-author of the book, Embodying Autism – Navigating your Autistic Brain, Body, and Mind, written with Martha Sweezey and published next year by New Harbinger. She is an international speaker and educator on the topic of understanding autism as an embodied condition. 
    We will be speaking with Sarah about the nature of autism (Episode Part 1) and (Episode Part 2) how IFS concepts and techniques can be understood through the lens of autism, how IFS therapy can be helpful for autistic clients, and some special considerations to keep in mind when working with autistic clients with IFS.  
    Hope you enjoy the episode and find it useful.

    29 October 2024, 6:08 pm
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