Google DeepMind: The Podcast

Hannah Fry

What is generative AI? How do you create safe and capable models? Is AI overhyped? Join mathematician and broadcaster Professor Hannah Fry as she answers these questions and more in the highly-praised and award-winning podcast from Google DeepMind. In this series, Hannah goes behind the scenes of the world-leading research lab to uncover the extraordinary ways AI is transforming our world. No hype. No spin, just compelling discussions and grand scientific ambition.

  • 47 minutes 38 seconds
    The Arrival of AGI with Shane Legg (co-founder of DeepMind)

    Further reading

    Levels of AGI paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.02462

    The road to AGI (Google DeepMind Podcast, S2): https://youtu.be/Uy4OYU7PQYA

    Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

    • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
    • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
    • Editor: Rami Tzabar 
    • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
    • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
    • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice

    Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation! 

     


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    11 December 2025, 5:00 pm
  • 47 minutes 24 seconds
    AlphaFold: Grand Challenge to Nobel Prize with John Jumper

    Learn more about AlphaFold: https://deepmind.google/science/alphafold/

    Watch the story behind AlphaFold in The Thinking Game, now available for free: https://youtu.be/d95J8yzvjbQ

    Thank you to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

    • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
    • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
    • Editor: Rami Tzabar
    • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
    • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
    • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
    • Video editor: Anthony Le
    • Audio engineer: Perry Rogantin
    • Visual identity: Rob Ashley
    • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

    Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation! 

     


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    28 November 2025, 2:14 pm
  • 48 minutes 32 seconds
    Waymo: The future of autonomous driving with Vincent Vanhoucke

    Learn more about Waymo: https://waymo.com/

    Thank you to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

    • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
    • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
    • Editor: Rami Tzabar
    • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
    • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
    • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
    • Video editor: Anthony Le
    • Audio engineer: Perry Rogantin
    • Visual identity: Rob Ashley
    • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

    Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation! 

     


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    6 November 2025, 6:57 pm
  • 25 minutes 32 seconds
    Pt.2 Beyond Phishing: Cyber Threats in the Age of AI with Four Flynn
    In part two, Hannah and Four tackle the human element at the heart of cybersecurity: Who are the bad actors, and what motivates them? They dissect the evolving strategies designed to stop social engineering attacks - like passkeys and risk-based authentication - and confront the complex security and privacy challenges that may be introduced by autonomous agents. Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation!    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
    16 October 2025, 4:04 pm
  • 46 minutes 30 seconds
    Pt.1 Beyond Phishing: Cyber Threats in the Age of AI with Four Flynn

    Further reading:

    • CodeMender: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/introducing-codemender-an-ai-agent-for-code-security/
    • Cybersecurity at Google: https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/ai-security-frontier-strategy-tools/
    • Threat intelligence report: https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/adversarial-misuse-generative-ai

    Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

    • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry 
    • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon 
    • Editor: Rami Tzabar 
    • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif 
    • Music composition: Eleni Shaw 
    • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice 
    • Video editor: Bilal Merhi 
    • Audio engineer: Perry Rogantin 
    • Visual identity: Rob Ashley 
    • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

    Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation! 

     


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    9 October 2025, 5:48 pm
  • 56 minutes 40 seconds
    Genie 3: An Infinite World Model with Shlomi Fruchter and Jack Parker-Holder

    In this episode, Professor Hannah Fry speaks with Jack Parker-Holder and Shlomi Fruchter about Genie 3, a general-purpose world model that can generate an unprecedented diversity of interactive environments. The conversation covers how this model's auto-regressive nature allows for the creation of consistent, explorable worlds from text or image prompts, and how its capabilities differ from video generation models like Veo. 

    Further reading

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    22 August 2025, 9:55 am
  • 29 minutes 42 seconds
    A Whistle Stop Tour of AI Creation with Paige Bailey

    This week's episode is a slight departure from our usual deep dives. Join Paige Bailey, DevRel lead, as she guides Hannah Fry though some of her favorite AI tools. Having spent years understanding the 'what' of these models, Hannah finally gets to experience the 'how’ – from generating prompts and 'vibe coding', to creating her own version of the infamous spaghetti meme.

    Learn more and try the tools yourself:

    Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

    • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
    • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
    • Editor: Rami Tzabar
    • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
    • Music composition: Eleni Shaw
    • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
    • Production Manager: Dan Lazard
    • Studio Manager: Nicholas Duke
    • Video Director: Bernardo Resende
    • Video Editor: Bilal Merhi
    • Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin
    • Camera and Lighting Operator: Robert Messere
    • Production Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen Morton
    • Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley
    • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

    Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation! 

     


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    10 July 2025, 1:03 pm
  • 40 minutes 21 seconds
    The Nature of AI: Solving the Planet's Data Gap with Drew Purves

    Further reading:

     

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    19 June 2025, 4:50 pm
  • 45 minutes 27 seconds
    A Quest for a Cure: AI Drug Design with Isomorphic Labs

    In this episode, host Hannah Fry is joined by Max Jaderberg and Rebecca Paul of Isomorphic Labs to explore the future of drug discovery in the age of AI. They discuss how new technology, particularly AlphaFold 3, is revolutionizing the field by predicting the structure of life’s molecules, paving the way for faster and more efficient drug discovery.

    They dig into the immense complexities of designing new drugs: How do you find the right molecular key for the right biological lock? How can AI help scientists understand disease better and overcome challenges like drug toxicity? And what about the diseases that are currently considered “undruggable”? Finally, they explore the ultimate impact of this technology, from the future of personalised medicine to the ambitious goal of being able to eventually design treatments for all diseases.

    Further reading: 

    • AlphaFold 3: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07487-w 
    • AlphaFold Server: https://alphafoldserver.com/ 
    • Isomorphic Labs: https://www.isomorphiclabs.com/ 
    • AlphaFold 3 code and weights: https://github.com/google-deepmind/alphafold3

    Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

    • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry 
    • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon 
    • Editor: Rami Tzabar 
    • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif 
    • Music composition: Eleni Shaw 
    • Audio engineer: Richard Courtice 
    • Production Manager: Dan Lazard 
    • Studio Manager: Nicholas Duke 
    • Video Director: Bernardo Resende 
    • Video Editor: Bilal Merhi 
    • Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin 
    • Camera and Lighting Operator: Robert Messere 
    • Production Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen Morton 
    • Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley 
    • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

    Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation! 

     


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    5 June 2025, 4:46 pm
  • 44 minutes 57 seconds
    Redefining Robotics with Carolina Parada

    In this episode, Hannah is joined by Carolina Parada, Senior Director and Head of Robotics at Google DeepMind. They explore the recent leap forward in robotic capabilities, highlighting advancements in multimodal understanding and embodied reasoning, which enable robots to interact with the physical world with unprecedented generality.

    They dig into the two-system approach - ‘slow and fast thinking‘ - that enables both complex reasoning and rapid, reactive movements. Using examples from robots learning dexterous tasks such as tying shoelaces to adapting to entirely new scenarios in real-time, Parada highlights how key breakthroughs in understanding, dexterity, and control are now coming together to rapidly advance robotics unlike ever before.

    Further reading/viewing:

    Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to:

    • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
    • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
    • Editor: Rami Tzabar
    • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
    • Music: Eleni Shaw
    • Audio Engineer: Richard Courtice
    • Production Manager: Dan Lazard
    • Video Studio Production: Nicholas Duke Video
    • Director: Bernardo Resende
    • Video Editor: Bilal Merhi
    • Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin
    • Camera and Lighting Operator: Robert Messere
    • Production Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen Morton
    • Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley
    • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

    Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation!

    Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation! 

     


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    22 May 2025, 3:43 pm
  • 36 minutes 32 seconds
    AI and the Future of Health with Joelle Barral

    In this episode, Professor Hannah Fry interviews Joelle Barral, Senior Director of Research at Google DeepMind, about AI in healthcare. They discuss existing AI applications including image analysis for diabetic retinopathy and the expansion of diagnostic tools as a result of multi-modal models. The conversation highlights AI's potential to improve healthcare delivery, personalize treatment, expand access worldwide, and ultimately, bring back the joy of practicing medicine.

    Further reading:

    Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

    • Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
    • Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
    • Editor: Rami Tzabar
    • Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
    • Music: Eleni Shaw
    • Audio Engineer: Richard Courtice
    • Production Manager: Dan Lazard
    • Video Studio Production: Nicholas Duke Video
    • Director: Bernardo Resende
    • Video Editor: Bilal Merhi
    • Audio Engineer: Perry Rogantin
    • Camera and Lighting Operator: Robert Messere
    • Production Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen Morton
    • Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley
    • Commissioned by Google DeepMind

    Please leave us a review on Spotify or Apple Podcasts if you enjoyed this episode. We always want to hear from our audience whether that's in the form of feedback, new idea or a guest recommendation! 

     


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    8 May 2025, 3:28 pm
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