This show is a tough one... Eric and Aaron thank their biggest supporters and announce that they will be putting the show on hiatus indefinitely.

AAR for Aaron's TacCon 2025 attendance.

AAR for Eric's Rangemaster Master Instructor Development Class in FL.

If you're not signed up for the upcoming 3rd Annual Combatives Summit, what are you waiting for?! Get signed up for one of the most impactful events of your life...literally. 24-26 October 2025

https://combativessummit.com/

Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.

Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.

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This show we have Chris Lapre and John Valentine to do an AAR of the Ben Stoeger and Matt Pranka Pistol and Carbine classes they attended recently.

If you're not signed up for the upcoming 3rd Annual Combatives Summit, what are you waiting for?! Get signed up for one of the most impactful events of your life...literally. 24-26 October 2025

https://combativessummit.com/

Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.

Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.

Again, patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly.

In this episode Eric and Aaron talk about some of the Christmas gifts they received, the lefts comparison of fitness with the right wing, and more info on the 2025 Al Qaeda attack plans.

Below are the main articles discussed.

Pandemic fitness trends have gone extreme — literally

The White Supremacist Origins of Exercise in the U.S. | TIME

The Greek philosophy of physical education in ancient Athens as compared with the philosophy of physical education in twentieth century United States a study of the Greek and modern idea of physical education as a part of education, UNCG NC DOCKS (North Carolina Digital Online Collection of Knowledge and Scholarship)

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Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.

Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.

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This show we do a throwback to our 100th episode where we talk with our two most important mentors ------

Our 100th show! We couldn't think of a better way to celebrate this milestone than by having our two most important mentors on the show: Mike Brown of the former Praesidium Group and Craig Douglas of Shivworks.

Topics: Meeting Mike in the mid 90s, how he became such an important coach and mentor to Eric and Aaron; how he pushed Eric join the TPI forums and to take ECQC. The Twins becoming a host to Craig for multiple classes through the years and how that relationship led to training with others in the Shivworks collective. TPI and its influence on the current multidisciplinary realm and how forums have transitioned to video and social media. Is this good/bad? Who are folks in this multidisciplinary realm whom both Craig and Mike recommend and what makes great instructors. Lastly, we talk a little gear, P365s, red dots, and some other fun topics to close out the show.

Previous appearances of Mike and Craig

Mike Brown Ep. 5

https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/10923969

Ep 45

https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/18674765

Craig's Ep 13

https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/12326351

Ep 49

https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/19725887

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Evolution Security is Eric Davis, Aaron Davis and Brian Schilt; specializing in self-protection education, defensive pistol and carbine, consulting, and weapons based grappling. Their mission is to help those serious about protecting themselves and their loved ones, become more capable though filtered information, recommended study, and highlighting their mentors who are the best in the field. In addition, Eric and Aaron (twins) are musicians keeping with Musashi's adage that martial artist should focus on art outside of the martial (bumper music recorded by the brothers).

This show we have DB "Boon" Benton of Threat Management Solutions back on the show.

Threat Management Solutions, Dave Benton, Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania

Boon is a survivor of the 2012 Benghazi Al Qaeda attacks where he was one of the CIA GRS contractors who helped defend and evacuate personnel. Boon, Tyrone "Rone" Woods, Kris "Tanto" Paronto, Jack Silva, Mark "Oz" Geist, John "Tig" Tiegen and Glenn "Bub" Doherty working for GRS saved countless lives in these attacks. Unfortunately, Rone and Bub were both killed during their heroic acts. We also lost Ambassador Christorpher Stevens, and Communications Specialist Sean Smith. Their story was memorialized in the book and movie 13 Hours in Benghazi.

Boon is also co-author of the book, Benghazi Know thy Enemy with former CIA Targeting Officer Sarah Adams. DB is also a BJJ Black belt and an expert in the field of combatives. This show we talk details regarding some of the classes that he offers. A few discussed but not limited to, Low Signature Pistol, Close Range Engagement, and Concealed Defensive Carbine. A bonus discussion on Boon's preferred 556 and 300 BLK ammo was also very informative.

One really concerning topic Boon brought up was the uncovered Al-Qaeda US and Europe attacks that the terrorist organization intends to commit in 2025.

Books discussed:

Benghazi: Know Thy Enemy: Adams, Sarah, Benton, Dave: 9798986822105: Amazon.com: Books

Al-Qaeda 2.0: The Upcoming Attack on the United States and Europe Unveiled (Understanding Global Jihad): Archer, William: 9798338313640: Amazon.com: Books

13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened In Benghazi: Zuckoff, Mitchell, Annex Security Team: 9781455538447: Amazon.com: Books

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Origin/Jocko Fuel – Bringing back American manufacturing, producing the best Jiu-Jitsu Gis on the market, Jeans, rash guards, and world class supplements to help you on the path. Use EvoSec10 at checkout for 10% off, this helps us greatly.

EVOSEC Originusa.com AFFILIATE LINK

Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.

Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.

Again, patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly.

This episode we have a very very special guest……WE HAVE OUR BROTHER BRIAN BACK ON THE SHOW! This was a blast having the band back together. Brian just attended the Shivworks EWO - Edged Weapons Overview in Idaho 9-10 Nov 2024. We do an AAR about his experience and also talk a little pistols with him as well.

Shivworks Online Training as discussed on the show:

https://shivworksonline.thinkific.com/

HamStudy.org: Cutting edge amateur radio study tools

I used an app on my ipad and phone, since I could easily study on the road.

Ham Test Prep: Technician (Not Lite version), I believe they have same app on Android

HAM Test Prep: Technician on the App Store (apple.com)

HF is limited but you will have a section of the 10M band which is in the 28 MHz

Basic Emergency Prep

FEMAs Basic Preparedness pdf

untitled (fema.gov)

Prepared by Mike Glover

Prepared: A Manual for Surviving Worst-Case Scenarios: Glover, Mike, Carr, Jack: 9780593538142: Amazon.com: Books

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EVOSEC Originusa.com AFFILIATE LINK

Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.

Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.

Again, patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly.

This show Aaron and Eric talk about the recent victory for Donald Trump winning a landslide election to become the 47th President Nov 5th 2024. They talk about the true impact of him winning vs if Harris had won the election; how would both scenarios affect liberty and the second amendment. Eric also hits on a recent TCCC medical class he attended, and talks about more evidence of why Ham radio and even basic FM/AM radio is crucial for emergencies.

HamStudy.org: Cutting edge amateur radio study tools

I used an app on my ipad and phone, since I could easily study on the road.

Ham Test Prep: Technician (Not Lite version), I believe they have same app on Android

HAM Test Prep: Technician on the App Store (apple.com)

HF is limited but you will have a section of the 10M band which is in the 28 MHz

Basic Emergency Prep

FEMAs Basic Preparedness pdf

untitled (fema.gov)

Prepared by Mike Glover

Prepared: A Manual for Surviving Worst-Case Scenarios: Glover, Mike, Carr, Jack: 9780593538142: Amazon.com: Books

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Origin/Jocko Fuel – Bringing back American manufacturing, producing the best Jiu-Jitsu Gis on the market, Jeans, rash guards, and world class supplements to help you on the path. Use EvoSec10 at checkout for 10% off, this helps us greatly.

EVOSEC Originusa.com AFFILIATE LINK

Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.

Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.

Again, patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly.

This episode we finally have the last member of the Shivworks Collective on the show; Chris Fry of MDTS Training, and PFC Training www.pfctraining.com. Chris is one of 5 people certified by Craig Douglas of Shivworks, is a BJJ black belt and is a preeminent expert in multidisciplinary training. This show we dive deep into what training is vs practice, and how to practice effectively.

Find Chris on Instagram @mdts_training and you can also find his personal training @ www.mdtstraining.com

Chris' Pocket Shield https://rcsgear.com/pocket-shield-4

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EVOSEC Originusa.com AFFILIATE LINK

Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.

Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.

Again, patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly.

This gear and mindset Aaron does an after action review (AAR) of the Rangemaster Master Instructor Development and Certification class he just attended at Mead Hall, Shawnee OK. Aaron talks about the revolver he used for the course and Eric talks about the revolver he will be using for his IDC coming the first of the year. Lastly, Eric hits on how Ham Radio has been critical in the aftermath and recovery efforts in the wake of Hurricane Helene.

Emergency Prep

Ham Radio and helping with Hurricane Helene

Listen to rescue efforts in NC near Mt. Mitchel on N2GE 145.19 MHz

https://m.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/42258

How to get your ham radio license - Technician

HamStudy.org

HamStudy.org: Cutting edge amateur radio study tools

I used an app on my ipad and phone, since I could easily study on the road.

Ham Test Prep: Technician (Not Lite version), I believe they have same app on Android

HAM Test Prep: Technician on the App Store (apple.com)

HF is limited but you will have a section of the 10M band which is in the 28 MHz

Basic Emergency Prep

FEMAs Basic Preparedness pdf

untitled (fema.gov)

Prepared by Mike Glover

Prepared: A Manual for Surviving Worst-Case Scenarios: Glover, Mike, Carr, Jack: 9780593538142: Amazon.com: Books

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Origin/Jocko Fuel – Bringing back American manufacturing, producing the best Jiu-Jitsu Gis on the market, Jeans, rash guards, and world class supplements to help you on the path. Use EvoSec10 at checkout for 10% off, this helps us greatly.

EVOSEC Originusa.com AFFILIATE LINK

Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.

Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.

Again, patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly.

We are excited to put some focus on shooting again, and we felt it was time to have Tim Herron back on the show.

• What are the skills needed to break barriers from say expert to master class in IDPA or A class to Master and even to Grand Master in USPSA.
• Tim's mental preparation - Does being nervous for a stage ever go away?
• Tim also breaks down par times for requisite skills, and what separates B class, A, Master and GM… It will really make you think.

Tim Herron is a USPSA Grand Master in both Single Stack and Limited division, a Master Class CDP shooter in IDPA, and has experience in defensive shooting, IDPA, Steel Challenge, bullseye and target shooting, Bianchi, and the occasional trick shot. Titles include, but are not limited to:

• 2022 USPSA Classic Nationals-8th Overall
• 2022 USPSA Area 1 Championship-Single Stack Division Champion
• 2022 USPSA Racegun Nationals-25th Overall Limited Division
• 2021 USPSA Single Stack Nationals-Top 10 Overall
• 2021 USPSA Northern AZ Classic- Single Stack Champion
• 2021 USPSA Area 2 Championship-Single Stack Division Champion
• 2021 USPSA Area 4 Championship- Single Stack Division Champion
• 2021 USPSA Area 8 Championship-Single Stack Division Champion
• 2020 USPSA Single Stack National Championships- Top 16 Finish
• 2020 USPSA Mile High Showdown-Single Stack Division Champion
• 2020 USPSA Area 1 Championship-Single Stack Division Champion
• 2020 USPSA Area 2 Championship-Single Stack Division Champion
• 2019 USPSA New Mexico State Single Stack Champion
• 2019 USPSA New Mexico High Desert Classic Single Stack Champion (2nd consecutive)
• 2019 USPSA Alaska Sectional Single Stack Champion
• 2019 IPSC US Nationals-Top 10-Classic Division (8th overall)
• 2018-USPSA Handgun National Championships Single Stack Division Top 10 (7th overall)
• 2018-New Mexico High Desert Classic Single Stack Champion
• 2014-2022 Illinois Sectional Single Stack Champion (7th consecutive title)
• 2018-Kansas Sectional Single Stack Champion (3rd consecutive title)
• 2018-3rd overall USPSA Battle in the Bluegrass
• 2017- Top 16 USPSA Single Stack National Championships
• 2014, 2017- USPSA Area 4 SS Division Champion
• 2014, 2016-USPSA Area 3 SS Division Champion
• 2013-2017- 5 time MO State USPSA Single Stack Champion

https://www.timherronshooting.com/

Instagram @timherronshooting Facebook Tim Herron

Episodes with Tim:

Ep 77 https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/23477048

Ep. 102 https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/25850913

Ep. 126 https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/evosec/id/27920154

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Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.

Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.

Again, patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly.

This episode we FINALLY have Claude Werner - The Tactical Professor - on the show.

https://thetacticalprofessor.net/

He has been a mentor of ours from a distance since our days of being on the Total Protection Interactive forum starting back in 2007. Listeners of the podcast will likely have heard us quote Claude, discuss his blog, or discuss and reference his writings multiple times through the last few years. He is a wealth of knowledge, and this interview was long overdue.

Some of the topics covered:

Negative Outcomes - Social Space Gunfighting Class - Ohio Police Carbine Qual and more..

https://thetacticalprofessor.net/2020/10/24/teach-your-children-to-shoot/

The Tactical Professor is Claude Werner. His background combines extensive work in the military, self defense training, and white collar financial services communities. This eclectic experience base gives him a view of self defense equipment and techniques that is more attuned to the needs of people with median lifestyles than some segments of the industry.

His background includes:

§ Retired Army Captain, with 10 years service in Special Operations

§ Market Research Director for 3 commercial real estate firms

§ National Director of Real Estate Research at a Big Four Accounting Firm

§ Match Director, International Defensive Pistol Association Georgia State Championship; 2000, 2001, 2002

§ IDPA Area Coordinator for Georgia and Alabama

§ Former Chief Instructor at the elite Rogers Shooting School

IDPA Classifications are: Master – Stock Service Revolver (SSR), Stock Service Pistol, Enhanced Service Pistol, Custom Defensive Pistol.

Numerous wins in pistol competition.

NRA Certified Instructor for Basic Pistol, Rifle, and Shotgun; Personal Protection In The Home; Refuse To Be A Victim; and Home Firearms Safety.

tacticalprofessor | An elite marksman. A real shooter with aim. (thetacticalprofessor.net)

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Tenicor – www.tenicor.com they are educators, and innovators in the holster market. They are firearms instructors themselves, pressure testing their gear in multiple force on force events every year. We support those who do the work.

Please visit our new sponsor Training Ground at https://thetrainingground.life Training Ground offers top notch trianing in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Tang Soo Do and Firearms. An environment where learning is paramount for both students and instructors.

Again, patronizing our sponsors helps us greatly.