Defenders of Business Value

Ed Mysogland

The Defenders of Business Value Podcast combines nearly 30 years of valuation and exit planning expertise working with business owners. Ed Mysogland has a mission and vision to help business owners understand the value of their business. Most of the small business owner's net worth is locked in the company, and to unlock it, a business owner has to sell it. Unfortunately, the odds are against business owners that they won't be able to sell their companies because they don't know what creates a saleable asset. Ed interviews experts who help business owners prepare, build, preserve, and one-day transfer value with the sale of the business.

  • 39 minutes 55 seconds
    EP 138: Inside the Mind of a Buyer: What Makes or Breaks a Deal with Ted Leverette

    A successful corporate executive leaves his high-paying job to buy a business, only to face a disaster leading to lawsuits and financial turmoil. That painful experience taught Ted Leverette valuable lessons and set him on the path to becoming the Business Buyer Advocate.

    In this episode, Ted shares his decades of experience, revealing what buyers really look for in a deal. He explains how buyers evaluate businesses, the importance of mastering the marketplace, and the critical role of due diligence in making smart acquisitions. Ted also discusses the emotional side of buying a business and how understanding the psychology of both buyers and sellers can make or break a deal.

    Tune in to learn how to think like a buyer and maximize the value of your business in today's competitive market.

    In this episode, you will:

    • Discover how buyers assess risk and why many businesses fail to impress serious acquirers

    • Learn the importance of systems, documentation, and reducing owner dependency before selling

    • Understand the mindset of buyers and sellers and how they affect negotiations

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Ted Leverette

    (04:00) What buyers want and what sellers must prepare

    (10:35) Building credibility through online presence and proof of funds

    (16:08) Avoiding common acquisition mistakes

    (19:53) The hidden market of business deals

    (22:02) Red flags and deal breakers for buyers

    (24:05) The psyche of buyers and sellers

    (30:15) Myths and misconceptions about buying a business

    Follow Ted:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tedleverette/

    Website: https://partneroncall.com/

    Check out Ted's books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.in/stores/Ted-J.-Leverette/author/B0BWS84J26?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    7 January 2026, 10:00 am
  • 42 minutes 13 seconds
    REPLAY: The Late-Stage Entrepreneur: Gary Hentschel on Lessons on Risk, Value, and Second Acts

    Most buyers slow down in their sixties. But not Gary Hentschel. He's out buying companies, doubling their value, and selling them again.

    As a partner at The September Group and CEO at WSI Technologies, Gary brings decades of experience as a banker, entrepreneur, and operator. In this episode, he shares how he appraises businesses, what sellers get wrong about their company's value, and why good leadership matters when a business is up for sale.

    In this episode, you will:

    • Discover what buyers look for in a management team

    • See how earnouts help keep deals on track

    • Find out why sellers often misprice their businesses

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Gary Hentschel

    (03:31) The importance of good partnerships

    (06:22) Navigating business acquisitions

    (09:47) Evaluating business potential

    (17:07) Risk management and deal structuring

    (21:30) The role of earnouts and management teams

    (29:03) First 60 days post-acquisition

    (31:18) Learning from buyers, sellers, and advisors

    (35:17) Current market trends and insights

    Resources:

    For past guests, please visit https://www.defendersofbusinessvalue.com/

    Follow Gary:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-hentschel-3793487/

    E-Mail: [email protected]

    Learn more about Gary's companies:

    The September Group: http://theseptembergroup.com/

    WSI Technologies: https://wsi-tech.com/

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    31 December 2025, 10:00 am
  • 47 minutes 46 seconds
    REPLAY: How Circle City Capital Group Turns Overlooked Businesses Into Thriving Investments

    What really makes a business attractive to buyers? Buyers weigh more than just financials. They consider risk, operations, and whether the business can run without you.

    Colin King and Joe Van Deman, Principals at Circle City Capital Group, Inc., know this firsthand. They've built a portfolio of 15 companies by acquiring businesses that many others have overlooked. Colin, a CPA and CFA, and Joe, a former Google employee, bring complementary skills for buying and growing companies. Their perspective offers owners a rare look at how serious buyers evaluate opportunities and negotiate deals.

    In this episode, you will:

    • Hear how buyers assess both financial and emotional factors in a deal

    • Learn what makes a business unappealing to buyers right away

    • Find out what makes a partnership last through tough deals

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Colin King and Joe Van Deman

    (02:29) How a Craigslist ad launched their partnership

    (07:37) Lessons from their first chaotic acquisition

    (11:32) What makes a business partnership work

    (15:50) How Circle City Capital Group is different from private equity

    (23:08) Turning risky businesses into profitable opportunities

    (33:03) Favorite companies in their portfolio

    (36:13) What instantly turns buyers off during negotiations

    (44:20) The changes that make businesses more sellable

    Resources:

    For past guests, please visit https://www.defendersofbusinessvalue.com/

    Follow Colin:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colin-king-cpa-cfa-37045a38/

    Follow Joe:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joevandeman/

    Check out their portfolio of companies: Circle City Capital Group: http://circlecitycapitalgroup.com

    Profit Mastery: http://profitmastery.net

    The Vermont Flannel Company: https://www.vermontflannel.com/

    Vermont Teddy Bear: https://vermontteddybear.com/

    All American Clothing Co.: https://www.allamericanclothing.com/

    Gusset Brand: https://gusset.com/

    Silk Flower Depot: https://e-silkflowerdepot.com/

    Dried Decor: https://www.drieddecor.com/

    Montessori 'n Such: https://www.montessori-n-such.com/

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    24 December 2025, 10:00 am
  • 38 minutes 43 seconds
    EP 137: The Hidden Challenges Latino Entrepreneurs Face When Selling a Business with Rudy Bustamante

    Latino-owned businesses are one of the fastest-growing segments of the U.S. economy, yet many owners still struggle when it's time to sell or transition. Gaps in financial records, limited access to the right advisors, and the absence of an exit plan often lead owners to shut down or hand over their businesses without capturing real value.

    Rudy Bustamante, Financial Planner at OneIndiana Financial Group, discusses why this happens and what can be done about it. He explains how cultural and language barriers complicate the process, why succession planning is rarely discussed, and how simple systems and accurate financials can change the outcome for an owner and their family. Rudy also highlights the resources owners should know about and how to spot advisors who understand the unique needs of the Latino business community.

    In this episode, you will:

    • Learn why many Latino business owners fail to plan for an exit

    • Understand the role of financial records and planning in a successful business transition

    • Discover the cultural and language barriers that affect Latino business sales and how to address them

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Rudy Bustamante

    (04:19) Challenges faced by Latino-owned businesses

    (10:53) Generational wealth and business transition

    (20:09) Retirement in the Latino community

    (22:47) Family dynamics and retirement plans

    (23:11) Transitioning Latino businesses

    (28:35) Predatory practices and community trust

    (30:52) Building trust and resources

    Follow Rudy:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rudybustamanteoif/

    Website: https://www.bustamanteconsulting.com/

    Learn more about OneIndiana Financial Group: https://www.oneindianafinancial.com/

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    Resources for Latino Business Owners

    National & Broad-Reach

    Exit-Planning & Valuation Specific

    • International Business Brokers Association (IBBA) – Broker directory; filter for Spanish-speaking: https://www.ibba.org/

    • Value Builder System – Free "Value Builder Score" questionnaire (Spanish version available): https://valuebuilder.com/

    Capital & Financial Clean-Up

    Local/Regional Powerhouses

    Books & Quick Reads (in Spanish or bilingual)

    • "De Emprendedor a Empresario" – LBAN/Stanford free PDF

    • "Finish Big" by Bo Burlingham (Spanish edition available)

    17 December 2025, 10:00 am
  • 32 minutes 17 seconds
    EP 136: The Retirement Strategy Hiding in Plain Sight with Thomas Drapala

    Owners fixate on the purchase price of their exit, but the bigger loss to long-term income can come from how Social Security is handled. Get it wrong, and you can quietly lose six figures.

    Thomas Drapala, Director of Strategic Partnerships at Registered Social Security Analysts (RSSA), explains why 96% of Americans leave money on the table when they treat Social Security as an afterthought. Drawing from his client work, he discusses how self-employment tax, entity structure, and "reasonable compensation" influence Social Security benefits. Thomas also walks through how RSSA's analysis helps owners save thousands of dollars a year in taxes, protect future benefits, and make Social Security a strategic part of their exit plan so it isn't ignored.

    In this episode, you will:

    • Understand why every owner should check their SSA earnings record and run an independent analysis before selling

    • Learn what younger owners should do now to avoid losing benefits later

    • See how RSSA analysis ties Social Security into your full exit and retirement plan

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Thomas Drapala

    (01:42) The shocking statistics on Social Security optimization

    (03:32) Understanding Social Security rules and benefits

    (05:49) Strategies for business owners to maximize Social Security

    (13:37) Case study: The bagel store owner's Social Security optimization

    (16:52) When it makes sense to bring in a Social Security expert

    (24:12) How a full Social Security review is done

    Follow Thomas:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-drapala-rssa%C2%AE-878611207/

    Email: [email protected]

    Learn more about Registered Social Security Analysts: https://rssa.com/

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    10 December 2025, 10:00 am
  • 38 minutes 14 seconds
    EP 135: Small Town, Big Opportunity: How to Exit in Overlooked Rural Markets

    The majority of deal conversations focus on big cities and private equity groups, but small towns have businesses too. Many of these companies are facing transition challenges because the buyers and advisors they need aren't there.

    This is what Dane Chapman and Joe Rust of SPARK Capital are working to solve. They are building a model designed to keep legacy businesses in their communities by collaborating with local partners and committed operators. Their work brings needed attention to the succession challenges rural business owners face.

    Dane and Joe discuss rural valuation gaps, personal goodwill risk, and how owners can prepare before value slips. If you are an owner in a small community or someone who advises one, this episode offers a clear look at how rural businesses can transition successfully.

    In this episode, you will:

    • Learn how rural businesses can stay locally owned instead of closing or relocating

    • Understand why rural buyers take a different view of growth and risk compared to urban buyers

    • See how sellers can make their businesses more attractive to mission-driven buyers

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Dane Chapman and Joe Rust

    (02:28) The origin story of SPARK Capital

    (06:11) Why rural owners struggle to sell their companies

    (11:04) The role of local advisors, operators, and community partners

    (17:02) How SPARK Capital approaches valuation and risk

    (28:13) How owners can prepare for succession

    (33:54) Community-based capital may shape the future of rural business

    (35:53) Mindset shifts for a more saleable business

    Resources:

    For past guests, please visit https://www.defendersofbusinessvalue.com/

    Follow Dane:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danechapman/

    Follow Joe:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joerust/

    Learn more about SPARK Capital: https://sparkcapitalin.com/

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    3 December 2025, 10:00 am
  • 37 minutes 3 seconds
    EP 134: How Small Hustles Create Big Outcomes with Hunter Beale

    Entrepreneurship isn't just for adults, and Hunter Beale is proof that it's never too early to start.

    Hunter is the Executive Director of High School Hustle, a fast-growing movement that helps students across Indiana build real businesses and learn through hands-on experience. In just one year, the program has grown from 17 to over 2,000 students, generating nearly $1 million in revenue. What began as a handful of high schoolers mowing lawns and washing cars has turned into a statewide mission to awaken the next generation of entrepreneurs.

    In this episode, Hunter shares how he helps students find purpose, earn income, and gain confidence through small business ownership.

    In this episode, you will:

    • Learn how High School Hustle is helping students build real businesses

    • Hear how mentorship and incentives keep young entrepreneurs accountable

    • Understand how failure builds confidence and leadership at an early age

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Hunter Beale

    (06:13) Finding purpose in mentoring

    (10:25) How High School Hustle turns students into real business owners

    (17:47) Hands-on learning for young entrepreneurs

    (21:21) The role of parents and communities

    (25:44) Life lessons and improved confidence from doing business

    (30:42) Expanding High School Hustle beyond Indiana

    Resources:

    For past guests, please visit https://www.defendersofbusinessvalue.com/

    Follow Hunter:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hunterjbeale/

    Learn more about High School Hustle: https://highschoolhustle.org/

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    26 November 2025, 10:00 am
  • 36 minutes 47 seconds
    EP 133: The Story That Sells Your Business with Charlie Stanton

    In a business appraisal, the numbers will always matter — but how they're communicated can have just as much impact on value.

    Charlie Stanton, CFA and founder of Stanton Valuation Advisors, believes every valuation tells a story. Drawing from his work in estate planning, litigation, and succession, he explains how storytelling can transform the way a business's worth is understood.

    This episode explores the eight elements every appraisal story should include, why owning your narrative builds buyer trust, and how a clear, consistent story can make your business more saleable.

    In this episode, you will:

    • Learn how to communicate risks without hurting your valuation

    • Understand the impact of transfer restrictions and illiquidity on appraisal outcomes

    • Understand why regulatory appraisals differ from deal-market valuations

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Charlie Stanton

    (03:01) Why every valuation is really a story

    (09:31) Building trust with a transparent narrative

    (14:52) Valuation for different purposes

    (17:14) Fair market value vs. market value explained

    (21:00) Understanding control and marketability discounts

    (27:44) The difference between appraisers and deal advisors

    (33:22) Advice for owners who want to increase business value

    Resources:

    For past guests, please visit https://www.defendersofbusinessvalue.com/

    Follow Charlie:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-stanton-cfa-b8172591/

    Email: [email protected]

    Learn more about Stanton Valuation Advisors: https://stantonvalue.com/

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    19 November 2025, 10:00 am
  • 27 minutes 52 seconds
    EP 132: Why Franchises Sell (and Independents Don't): Lessons from Inside Neighborly

    More entrepreneurs are turning to franchises, and it's easy to see why. With proven systems, recognizable brands, and built-in support, franchises make both ownership and resale less risky.

    Alyssa Hernandez, Vice President of Franchise Resales at Neighborly, leads the team that manages transitions across 19 brands and nearly 10,000 franchise owners. Her team helps owners exit smoothly while guiding new entrepreneurs into established operations — all while protecting brand consistency and business value.

    In this episode, Alyssa shares why franchise businesses often sell faster and at higher prices than independents, and how early planning can help owners achieve better outcomes when it's time to sell.

    In this episode, you will:

    • Understand how franchisor support reduces risk

    • Learn the biggest reasons resales fall apart and how to avoid them

    • Discover how tech and AI are reshaping the franchise resale process

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Alyssa Hernandez

    (04:21) The value of franchises vs independent businesses

    (08:23) The success rate of selling a franchise

    (11:50) Why resales fall through

    (13:53) Prep work to sell a franchise business

    (17:25) How technology streamlines the resale process

    (21:35) The future of franchising and business ownership

    (24:45) Why business owners need to understand valuation

    Resources:

    For past guests, please visit https://www.defendersofbusinessvalue.com/

    Follow Alyssa:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alyssa-hernandez-4a235a60/

    Learn more about Neighborly: https://www.neighborlybrands.com/

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    12 November 2025, 10:00 am
  • 34 minutes 55 seconds
    EP 131: No One-Size-Fits-All: Amy Wirtz on Succession Without the Drama

    Managing a business is tough enough on its own. But add family dynamics in the mix, and things get even more challenging.

    As a strategic advisor at The Family Business Consulting Group, Amy Wirtz shares her expertise on navigating ownership transitions in multigenerational families.

    Amy discusses the challenges of balancing family relationships with business goals, offering insights on how to manage both for a successful transition. She also shares tips to help prepare the next generation for leadership to ensure that both the business legacy and family harmony are preserved.

    In this episode, you will:

    • Learn how to create a clear succession plan

    • Discover strategies for managing conflict within the family

    • Understand how generational wealth planning works

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Amy Wirtz

    (02:57) The responsibilities of an exit planner

    (07:00) From family law to family business advising

    (12:55) Parallel planning for families and businesses

    (16:22) Family ownership dynamics

    (19:34) How next generations "pay" for family business transfers

    (22:19) Navigating complex family communication

    (26:29) The biggest problem in ownership transitions

    (29:33) What family businesses teach about legacy and long-term thinking

    Resources:

    For past guests, please visit https://www.defendersofbusinessvalue.com/

    Follow Amy:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amywirtzcepa/

    Email: [email protected]

    Learn more about The Family Business Consulting Group: https://www.thefbcg.com/

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    5 November 2025, 10:00 am
  • 38 minutes 11 seconds
    EP 130: Shift-N-Gears: From Stuck to Scalable with Acquisition Thinking with Della Kirkman

    You don't have to build your own business from scratch to be an entrepreneur. You can buy one instead.

    Della Kirkman, CPA and founder of Shift-N-Gears, is on a mission to help 10,000 women become business owners through acquisition. After starting as a waitress at Cracker Barrel, Della worked her way up to owning and selling her own accounting firm. Now, she's teaching others how to achieve wealth, independence, and freedom by buying businesses that are already established and successful.

    In this episode, Della shares her insights on risk, funding, and deal sourcing and explains why acquisition entrepreneurship is one of the most underutilized paths to financial freedom, especially for women.

    In this episode, you will:

    • How to scale and grow an acquired business

    • Insights on sourcing deals and funding for acquisitions

    • Why every business needs to go digital

    Highlights:

    (00:00) Meet Della Kirkman

    (02:36) Why women are still behind in financial independence

    (05:43) The realities of buying a business

    (09:42) What buyers get wrong about acquisitions

    (11:17) Building an opportunity fund

    (14:21) Sourcing the right kind of deals

    (18:24) How to stand out to brokers and dealmakers

    (23:06) Inside Della's business buying bootcamp

    (28:51) Challenges in advising business buyers

    (34:18) Why every business needs a digital component

    Resources:

    For past guests, please visit https://www.defendersofbusinessvalue.com/

    Follow Della:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dellakirkmancpa/

    Vote for Della at the 2025 Harbour Club M&A Awards: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd5soMcyzgR8tzBqEil-2-JPk-GPfMp-W5bmvKqFSkL7uvkxg/viewform

    Learn more about Della's company:

    Shift-N-Gears: https://www.shift-n-gears.com/

    Follow Ed:

    Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edmysogland/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/defendersofbusinessvalue/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bvdefenders

    29 October 2025, 9:00 am
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