DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

<p>The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of "Covid Disinformation" Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you'll like what you see!</p>

  • 1 hour 39 minutes
    Careful Thinking in Reckless Times: The 318th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 318th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss how to understand our universe: through logic, intuition, and probability, through keeping track of what we believe, and being willing to change our minds. Avoiding certainty is difficult, but necessary. Using examples of who killed Charlie Kirk, and whether the venue where he was speaking suggests black magic, we discuss how to make sense of the world in a scientific way. Meanwhile in Washington: a $1 bill is booked into evidence.

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    Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Organization for Tropical Studies: https://obfs.org/field-station/la-selva-research-station-ots/

    Sheriff’s Log: https://sanjuanislander.com/lawenforcement/

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    25 March 2026, 9:00 pm
  • 2 hours 10 seconds
    Is Cell Phone Radiation Good For You? The 317th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 317th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss radiation and its impact on (rodent) health, and the 9th circuit’s decision to let men use women’s spas. First: research published in 2018 finds that low levels of non-ionizing radiation—like that emitted by cell phones and air pods—are actually associated with life extension in mice and rats. Don’t get too excited—these are the same rodents whose breeding protocols have broken them in some counter-intuitive ways, including that low doses of toxins or radiation can actually slow down the cancer that will otherwise kill them. Then: Olympus Spa, a traditional Korean nude spa for women in the Seattle area, was told by the state of Washington, now upheld by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, that they must let men in, so long as those men think they’re women. Judge VanDyke’s dissent correctly summarizes the issue as one of “swinging dicks.”

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Toxicology and carcinogenesis in mice exposed to radio frequency radiation, 2018: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK564529/#S9

    Thread on this research: https://x.com/zanehkoch/status/2033400775762964601

    JAX lab on telomere length: https://www.jax.org/news-and-insights/2020/july/telomere-length-in-mice

    Breeding protocols: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK500423/

    Weinstein & Ciszek 2002: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11909679/

    9th Circuit on Olympus Spa letting men in:https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2026/03/12/23-4031.pdf

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    18 March 2026, 9:00 pm
  • 2 hours 9 minutes
    Unholy War: A Conversation with Tucker Carlson on DarkHorse

    Bret Weinstein speaks with Tucker Carlson on the subject of the Iran War and accusations of bigotry.

    Find Tucker Carlson at https://tuckercarlson.com

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    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Watch Bret on Tucker Carlson from March 11, 2026 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcc5jUcORUY 

    Bret on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show in 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j9nFced_eo

    Tucker Confronts Ted Cruz on His Support for Regime Change in Iran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smemFVe0l5E 

    Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil https://www.amazon.com/Eichmann-Jerusalem-Banality-Penguin-Classics/dp/0143039881?tag=ustxtaddt-20 

    Secretary Rubio to the Press: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee8WIxGCnr0 

    Daryl Cooper piece on Babi Yar https://www.martyrmade.com/featured-podcasts/fear-loathing-in-the-new-jerusalem 

    Bret Weinstein's DarkHorse Podcast - Black Intellectual Roundtable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHGt733yw3g 

    The Israel Attacks: Beyond the Obvious with Efrat Fenigson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_IAH7PnS_E 

    USA Patriot Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-bill/3162 

    Charlie Kirk | PBD Podcast | Ep. 314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ9VOlaBBeo

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    12 March 2026, 6:00 pm
  • 2 hours 42 minutes
    Who Hijacked Bitcoin? Steve Patterson and Aaron Day on DarkHorse

    Bret Weinstein speaks with Steve Patterson and Aaron Day on the subject of Bitcoin’s complex history, it’s relationship to Epstein, and the current challenges of digital currencies. 

    Find Steve Patterson at https://steve-patterson.com and on X at https://x.com/steveinpursuit.

    Find Aaron Day at https://daylightfreedom.org and on X at https://x.com/aaronrday.

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    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.

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    Mentioned on this episode:

    Steve Patterson on DarkHorse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28VanG_0tyA 

    President Biden signed Executive Order (E.O.) 14067 https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/03/14/2022-05471/ensuring-responsible-development-of-digital-assets

    Project Hamilton https://www.bostonfed.org/news-and-events/news/2022/12/project-hamilton-boston-fed-mit-complete-central-bank-digital-currency-cbdc-project.aspx

    Aaron Day Brownstone article https://brownstone.org/articles/the-sinister-links-between-jeffrey-epstein-cbdcs-and-bitcoin/

    Aaron Day Brownstone article https://brownstone.org/articles/the-hijacking-of-bitcoin/ 

    Epstein on Bitcoin 2017 https://thenextweb.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-bitcoin

    Email 1 Joi Ito / Epstein https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02716994.pdf 

    Email 2 Joi Ito / Epstein https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00858561.pdf 

    University of Texas Austin Tether Study https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3195066

    Austin Hill Email on Free Healthcare: https://x.com/steveinpursuit/status/2019075000532177035

    Genius Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1582/text 

    The Clarity Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/3633/text 

    The Great Taking https://thegreattaking.com/read-online-or-download 

    Freedom Dollar https://www.freedomdollar.com/en

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    9 March 2026, 1:00 am
  • 2 hours 2 minutes
    Fog of War: The 316th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 316th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss health, science, and the Cartesian crisis as it relates to global events. First: a new paper finds that infection tends to lead to greater frailty in older people. This reverses the causality of Terrain Theory of Disease (frailty of the body leads to greater susceptibility of infection), and also provides support for a prediction made by Bret and his co-author Debbie Ciszek in the unpublished, longer version of their reserve capacity paper from 2002. Then: what we are seeing on our personal media feeds does not make us eye-witnesses to anything—not necessarily. Plato’s Cave of Mirrors means that we are all fed different media diets, and skills such as observation, discernment, and hypothesis generation, inherently fail when nobody can establish what is actually true. Recommendation: start comparing notes with other people as to what they are seeing, rather than what they think it means.

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    Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

    Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Ragusa et al 2026: https://academic.oup.com/biomedgerontology/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/gerona/glag043/8497853

    Gavazzi & Krause 2002: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(02)00437-1/fulltext

    New York Magazine article on Casey Means: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/casey-means-and-the-myth-of-the-root-cause.html

    Weinstein & Ciszek 2002: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11909679/

    Journalist Mizrahi on X (maybe): https://x.com/eliseevanews/status/2029700361297051829

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    7 March 2026, 10:00 pm
  • 1 hour 28 minutes
    Breach of Promise: The 315th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 315th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss war, breaches of promise, and manta rays. Why are we at war in Iran, when this president promised “no new wars”? Removing dictators and strongmen from the world is honorable—but will the Iranian people thrive after this move, or will this look more like Iraq? Can we reconcile what Secretary of State Rubio said about why we started the war, versus what Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu said? Then: Kansas has reversed course on letting put a chosen gender identity on official documents rather than your biological sex—to the good—but they did so in a way guaranteed to create havoc and make things very hard for the people who need to get new IDs. These are people who broke no laws, but are being treated badly by the state as if they did. Finally: manta rays are extraordinary and deeply intelligent; we share footage and words about them. Finally, a shout out to Covid Era Stories.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Rubio: https://x.com/mtracey/status/2028607181134696564

    Netanyahu: https://x.com/DowdEdward/status/2028665196072558794

    Kansas law: https://kansasreflector.com/2026/03/04/kansas-anti-trans-law-targets-ids-and-birth-certificates-and-the-right-to-vote/

    Covid Era Stories: https://naturalselections.substack.com/s/covid-era-stories

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    4 March 2026, 9:00 pm
  • 2 hours 14 minutes
    A Transfer of Health: Jan Jekielek on DarkHorse

    Bret Weinstein speaks with Jan Jekielek, author of "Killed to Order" and Epoch Times senior editor on the subject of organ harvesting and communism in China.

    Find with Jan Jekielek on X at https://x.com/JanJekielek. To find out more about “Killed to Order” visit http://killedtoorder.com.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    NYT 2003: Bret letter to the editor on organ donation and incentives: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/18/opinion/he-gave-of-himself-so-that-i-could-live-3-letters.html

    Hot mic catches Xi and Putin discussing organ transplants and immortality https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr70rvrd41ko

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    25 February 2026, 10:00 pm
  • 2 hours 32 minutes
    The History of Vaccine Hesitancy: Jeffrey Tucker on DarkHorse

    Bret Weinstein speaks with Brownstone Institute founder, Jeffrey Tucker about the complexities of public health.

    Find Jeffrey Tucker on X at https://x.com/jeffreyatucker and more on Brownstone Institute at https://brownstone.org.

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    Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com

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    Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Toby Rogers on DarkHorse https://youtu.be/QQfIo75KHII

    How Long Has Industry Captured Vaccine Regulation?
     https://brownstone.org/articles/how-long-has-industry-captured-vaccine-regulation/

    Event 201 https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/tabletop-exercises/event-201-pandemic-tabletop-exercise

    Coronavirus: The Hammer and the Dance https://tomaspueyo.medium.com/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

    Bret Weinstein speaking at Brownstone Supper Club in Seattle area March 17th, 2026 https://brownstone.org/event/brownstone-puget-sound-supper-club-march-17-2026-bret-weinstein/#tribe-tickets__tickets-form

    2026 Polyface Retreat https://brownstone.org/polyface-retreat-2026

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    18 February 2026, 7:00 pm
  • 1 hour 40 minutes
    Love in the Time of Robots: The 314th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 314th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss love, coffee, and AI. For Valentine’s Day, Bret shares his thoughts on myths, love, and soulmates, and we discuss how relationships form—both in the abstract and in our case—and how relationships cannot be antagonistic or about short time horizons. Then: new research finds that drinking moderate amounts of coffee or tea—but not if decaffeinated—slows cognitive decline. And: is AI coming for us, and if so, how soon? How fast are LLM’s evolving, whose work will they disappear, and is concern or hope the more constructive response? We can see some of how AI will change our world; what can we not yet see? Finally: could menial, repetitive work (“drudgery”) have more to recommend it than we know?

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    Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

    Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)

    Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Zhang et al 2026. Coffee and Tea Intake, Dementia Risk, and Cognitive Function. JAMA published online 2-9-26: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2844764

    Something big is happening: https://x.com/mattshumer_/status/2021256989876109403

    It was never about AI (we are not our tools): https://x.com/EricMarkowitz/status/2022005480240120229

    AI isn’t coming for your future. Fear is: https://x.com/cboyack/status/2021647373571862952

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    14 February 2026, 10:00 pm
  • 1 hour 34 minutes
    Is Epstein Alive? The 313th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 313th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss the Orwellian landscape(s) we find ourselves in, beginning with a reading from 1984. Minneapolis has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize; a male school shooter in a dress was referred to as female in several media outlets; and Wikipedia is lauded for its neutrality by (the science journal) Nature, with an example that demonstrates a lack of neutrality at either place. Orwell modernizes Ecclesiastes, then: Epstein: QAnon, Massacre of the Innocents, giant vats of sulfuric acid, jerky, kompromat, and oh by the way, is he still alive? Bret thinks so.

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    Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

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    Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org 

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Nobel Peace Prize: https://x.com/cityminneapolis/status/2019879753407148313

    Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ten-dead-after-shooting-canadian-province-british-columbia-cbc-news-reports-2026-02-11

    The shooter + commentary: https://x.com/JenniferSey/status/2021591862147231781

    Nature on Wikipedia: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00074-1

    Politics and the English Language (Orwell 1946): https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/politics-and-the-english-language/

    Epstein files: https://www.justice.gov/epstein

    Dreher on art & Epstein: https://x.com/roddreher/status/2021525549232083275

    Lack of prison tapes: https://x.com/alternatnews/status/2020999962054549542

    Covid Era Stories: https://naturalselections.substack.com/s/covid-era-stories

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    11 February 2026, 10:00 pm
  • 2 hours 7 minutes
    Epstein, Trivers, and Gender: The 312th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    On this, our 312th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss the fact that the centre cannot hold. More Epstein files were released, which included an email from our friend and former mentor, Robert Trivers. We discuss his contributions, his life, and what the email does and does not imply. Also in the Epstein files: pizza, torture, Bitcoin, and the “goyim.” Was it all about blackmail; if not, what? And what is the CEO of TikTok on about, with regard to hate speech? Finally: a silver lining in the madness, as gender clinics close down and the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (finally) takes the position that “gender-affirming” surgeries should not be done to people before the age of 19.

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    Xlear: Xylitol nasal spray that acts as prophylaxis against respiratory illnesses by reducing the stickiness of bacteria and viruses. Find Xlear online, or at your local pharmacy, grocery store, or natural products store.

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    Join us on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com/

    Heather’s newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com

    Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://amzn.to/3AGANGg (commission earned)

    Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org

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    Mentioned in this episode:
    The Second Coming, by Yeats: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43290/the-second-coming 

    Epstein files: https://www.justice.gov/epstein

    CEO of TikTok: https://x.com/klonnypin_gosch/status/2015692335967826273 

    Gender Clinic at Mary Bridge Hospital closing: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/mary-bridge-childrens-hospital-to-close-gender-clinic

    ASPS Position on Transing Kids: https://www.plasticsurgery.org/for-medical-professionals/health-policy/position-statements

    Leor Sapir on the AMA: https://x.com/LeorSapir/status/2018888126974812652

    Covid Era Stories: https://naturalselections.substack.com/s/covid-era-stories

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    4 February 2026, 11:00 pm
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