<p>The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of "Covid Disinformation" Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you'll like what you see!</p>
On this, our 315th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss war, breaches of promise, and manta rays. Why are we at war in Iran, when this president promised “no new wars”? Removing dictators and strongmen from the world is honorable—but will the Iranian people thrive after this move, or will this look more like Iraq? Can we reconcile what Secretary of State Rubio said about why we started the war, versus what Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu said? Then: Kansas has reversed course on letting put a chosen gender identity on official documents rather than your biological sex—to the good—but they did so in a way guaranteed to create havoc and make things very hard for the people who need to get new IDs. These are people who broke no laws, but are being treated badly by the state as if they did. Finally: manta rays are extraordinary and deeply intelligent; we share footage and words about them. Finally, a shout out to Covid Era Stories.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Rubio: https://x.com/mtracey/status/2028607181134696564
Netanyahu: https://x.com/DowdEdward/status/2028665196072558794
Kansas law: https://kansasreflector.com/2026/03/04/kansas-anti-trans-law-targets-ids-and-birth-certificates-and-the-right-to-vote/
Covid Era Stories: https://naturalselections.substack.com/s/covid-era-stories
Bret Weinstein speaks with Jan Jekielek, author of "Killed to Order" and Epoch Times senior editor on the subject of organ harvesting and communism in China.
Find with Jan Jekielek on X at https://x.com/JanJekielek. To find out more about “Killed to Order” visit http://killedtoorder.com.
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Mentioned in this episode:
NYT 2003: Bret letter to the editor on organ donation and incentives: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/18/opinion/he-gave-of-himself-so-that-i-could-live-3-letters.html
Hot mic catches Xi and Putin discussing organ transplants and immortality https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr70rvrd41ko
Bret Weinstein speaks with Brownstone Institute founder, Jeffrey Tucker about the complexities of public health.
Find Jeffrey Tucker on X at https://x.com/jeffreyatucker and more on Brownstone Institute at https://brownstone.org.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Toby Rogers on DarkHorse https://youtu.be/QQfIo75KHII
How Long Has Industry Captured Vaccine Regulation?
https://brownstone.org/articles/how-long-has-industry-captured-vaccine-regulation/
Event 201 https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/tabletop-exercises/event-201-pandemic-tabletop-exercise
Coronavirus: The Hammer and the Dance https://tomaspueyo.medium.com/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56
Bret Weinstein speaking at Brownstone Supper Club in Seattle area March 17th, 2026 https://brownstone.org/event/brownstone-puget-sound-supper-club-march-17-2026-bret-weinstein/#tribe-tickets__tickets-form
2026 Polyface Retreat https://brownstone.org/polyface-retreat-2026
On this, our 314th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss love, coffee, and AI. For Valentine’s Day, Bret shares his thoughts on myths, love, and soulmates, and we discuss how relationships form—both in the abstract and in our case—and how relationships cannot be antagonistic or about short time horizons. Then: new research finds that drinking moderate amounts of coffee or tea—but not if decaffeinated—slows cognitive decline. And: is AI coming for us, and if so, how soon? How fast are LLM’s evolving, whose work will they disappear, and is concern or hope the more constructive response? We can see some of how AI will change our world; what can we not yet see? Finally: could menial, repetitive work (“drudgery”) have more to recommend it than we know?
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Mentioned in this episode:
Zhang et al 2026. Coffee and Tea Intake, Dementia Risk, and Cognitive Function. JAMA published online 2-9-26: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2844764
Something big is happening: https://x.com/mattshumer_/status/2021256989876109403
It was never about AI (we are not our tools): https://x.com/EricMarkowitz/status/2022005480240120229
AI isn’t coming for your future. Fear is: https://x.com/cboyack/status/2021647373571862952
On this, our 313th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss the Orwellian landscape(s) we find ourselves in, beginning with a reading from 1984. Minneapolis has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize; a male school shooter in a dress was referred to as female in several media outlets; and Wikipedia is lauded for its neutrality by (the science journal) Nature, with an example that demonstrates a lack of neutrality at either place. Orwell modernizes Ecclesiastes, then: Epstein: QAnon, Massacre of the Innocents, giant vats of sulfuric acid, jerky, kompromat, and oh by the way, is he still alive? Bret thinks so.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Nobel Peace Prize: https://x.com/cityminneapolis/status/2019879753407148313
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ten-dead-after-shooting-canadian-province-british-columbia-cbc-news-reports-2026-02-11
The shooter + commentary: https://x.com/JenniferSey/status/2021591862147231781
Nature on Wikipedia: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00074-1
Politics and the English Language (Orwell 1946): https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/politics-and-the-english-language/
Epstein files: https://www.justice.gov/epstein
Dreher on art & Epstein: https://x.com/roddreher/status/2021525549232083275
Lack of prison tapes: https://x.com/alternatnews/status/2020999962054549542
Covid Era Stories: https://naturalselections.substack.com/s/covid-era-stories
On this, our 312th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss the fact that the centre cannot hold. More Epstein files were released, which included an email from our friend and former mentor, Robert Trivers. We discuss his contributions, his life, and what the email does and does not imply. Also in the Epstein files: pizza, torture, Bitcoin, and the “goyim.” Was it all about blackmail; if not, what? And what is the CEO of TikTok on about, with regard to hate speech? Finally: a silver lining in the madness, as gender clinics close down and the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (finally) takes the position that “gender-affirming” surgeries should not be done to people before the age of 19.
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Mentioned in this episode:
The Second Coming, by Yeats: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43290/the-second-coming
Epstein files: https://www.justice.gov/epstein
CEO of TikTok: https://x.com/klonnypin_gosch/status/2015692335967826273
Gender Clinic at Mary Bridge Hospital closing: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/mary-bridge-childrens-hospital-to-close-gender-clinic
ASPS Position on Transing Kids: https://www.plasticsurgery.org/for-medical-professionals/health-policy/position-statements
Leor Sapir on the AMA: https://x.com/LeorSapir/status/2018888126974812652
Covid Era Stories: https://naturalselections.substack.com/s/covid-era-stories
Bret Weinstein speaks with independent journalist Brandi Kruse about Antifa, gun culture, gun rights in Washington State, socialism, and why Bret still refers to himself as a liberal in 2026.
Find Brandi Kruse on X at https://x.com/BrandiKruse and her show, UnDivided at https://www.undividedpod.com.
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Mentioned on this Episode:
Roundtable on Antifa at the WhiteHouse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf6Em35gguU
Andy Ngo on DarkHorse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC4u1zo6OpQ
Andy Ngo on X https://x.com/MrAndyNgo
NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012 https://www.congress.gov/112/plaws/publ81/PLAW-112publ81.pdf
Moms for Liberty https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/us-house-judiciary-republicans-doj-labeled-dozens-of-parents-as-terrorist
The Turtle Island Liberation Front https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four-defendants-arrested-alleged-anti-capitalist-and-anti-government-plot-bomb-us-companies
Trump sending in Homan to Minneapolis https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/26/trump-border-czar-minneapolis-00746125
Maj Toure on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@MajToure
Wa. 3D Printed Guns: HB2320 https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary/?billnumber=2320&year=2025&initiative=False#documentSection
Wa.3D Printed Guns: HB2321 https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2025-26/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/2321.pdf?q=20260201075249
Brandi Kruse interviews Socialist state lawmaker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=894SIV7Dh5c
On this, our 311th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss what is happening in Minneapolis. First: research finds that on average, men and women experience empathy differently: men do not have empathy for people who have done wrong; women have empathy for people regardless of context. Then: Was the Alex Pretti shooting by ICE officers in Minneapolis a cold-blooded murder, or a justified homicide? How would we know? Few of us were actual eye-witnesses to the scene, but our modern media environment tricks us into believing, unconsciously, that we know more than we do. This feels like Portland in 2020. We are being manipulated into disjunct narratives, taught to distrust and fear one another, at ever greater distance from simply being good neighbors and fellow citizens. Finally: an invitation to submit Covid Era Stories.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Singer et al 2006. Empathic neural responses are modulated by the perceived fairness of others. Nature, 439(7075): 466-469. Draft pdf: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2636868/pdf/ukmss-3669.pdf
Tucker Carlson and Tim Walz: https://x.com/tcnetwork/status/2016539262230184357
Fox on Pretti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX9y3612Rlo
CNN on Pretti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FR-fz57PEU
Covid Era Stories: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/covid-era-stories
Bret Weinstein speaks with Del Bigtree on the subject of medical freedom. Del Bigtree is the executive producer behind the new documentary An Inconvenient Study, which covers a study that compares the health of vaccinated vs unvaccinated children.
Watch An Inconvenient Study for free https://aninconvenientstudy.com
Find Del Bigtree at https://x.com/delbigtree and https://thehighwire.com
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Mentioned in this episode:
Unsafe at Any Speed: Dr. Toby Rogers on DarkHorse https://youtu.be/QQfIo75KHII
Toby Roger’s doctoral thesis, The Political Economy of Autism for links to studies mentioned https://ses.library.usyd.edu.au/bitstream/handle/2123/20198/Rogers_T_thesis.pdf
On this, our 310th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss Trump, his presidency, and the state of the country. Disappointments include military interventions and renamings, a failed and politicized DOGE, and the embrace of tech-utopianism and associated heuristics and algorithms. Positive moves have been made in MAHA (e.g. revision of the childhood vaccine schedule, food additives and food pyramid), sex and gender (sex is real, men can’t become women); and, to some degree, constitutional and border protections. We don’t yet know what might be gained by interventions in Iran, and in Venezuela. Two years ago, The Atlantic published an issue predicting what would happen if Trump won a second term; they get a few things right, a lot wrong, and blame Trump for their own personal neuroses. Finally, a review of why we voted for Trump in the last election, where we were right, and where we were wrong.
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Mentioned in this episode:
The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/toc/2024/01/
Federal funding of science and elite universities: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/letter-from-harvard
Open letter to Hegseth: https://hollymathnerd.substack.com/p/an-open-letter-to-sec-hegseth
Rogan on ICE: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/2011517588527067319
Heather on voting for Trump: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/why-i-am-voting-for-trump
On this, our 309th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss science and scientism, experts and expertise. Washington state Governor Bob Ferguson objects to the reduction in the Childhood Vaccine Schedule, and promises to bring “science” back to the state. In fact, the new recommendations are putting the U.S. more in line with what European countries recommend, and are quite conservative. Also, while Ferguson was the WA Attorney General, he imposed and enforced Covid vaccine mandates; many people lost their jobs and their livelihoods. Also in Washington: Brandi Kruse outs Democratic majority leader Jamie Pedersen as being unclear about the nature of male and female (or unwilling to say what he knows). On Broadway, Dylan Mulvaney, a male, will be playing Anne Boleyn, one of the most famous and influential women in history. Finally: words in honor and memory of Scott Adams.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Governor Ferguson: https://x.com/govbobferguson/status/2011482561206231340
HHS Immunization Assessment: https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/assessment-of-the-us-childhood-and-adolescent-immunization-schedule-compared-to-other-countries.pdf
New vaccine guideline summary: https://www.hhs.gov/childhood-immunization-schedule/index.html
Hanson v Ferguson: https://www.silentmajorityfoundation.org/medicalfreedom
Kruse takes on Pedersen: https://x.com/BrandiKruse/status/2010068851858518456
Mulvaney to play Anne Boleyn: https://www.iheartradiobroadway.com/content/2026-01-16-six-welcomes-new-queens-on-february-16/
Scott Adams: https://x.com/dawnsmission/status/2011123367794118822