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Sphere Entertainment is now profitable, Wizard of Oz was a hit, and more locations are coming. Has the business turned the corner, or are there still question marks?
In this episode, I’m joined by Tati Cirisano, MIDiA Research, to assess where Sphere Entertainment stands in 2026. We unpack the company’s narrative, scalability, residencies, challenges, and more.
CHAPTERS
01:34 Is It Really Profitable?
10:01 The Concert Residency Model
14:58 Sphere Expansion Plans
22:33 Novelty Risk
26:07 Does Sphere Have a Comp?
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In music right now, the winners aren’t just the artists with the biggest audiences, they’re the teams that control the infrastructure.
First, I sit down with Mag Rodriguez, CEO and co-founder of EVEN, to break down how Even became a key part of J. Cole’s The Fall Off rollout, from exclusive drops and direct-to-fan sales to tour presales and fan community features designed to keep people coming back.
Then, I’m joined by Lior Tibon, CEO and co-founder of Duetti, to unpack the financial plumbing behind catalog deals: how Duetti raised $200M, why equity and debt get used differently, and how data, underwriting, and marketing operations power the rights-acquisition machine.
CHAPTERS:
04:27 Why J. Cole Uses EVEN
10:16 EVEN-UMG Deal, Explained
16:49 Clearing the Rumors
32:30 Duetti’s Equity vs. Debt Stack
33:34 What a typical Duetti deal looks like
38:38 Catalog Marketing Playbook
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For the past 20 years, subscription streaming has produced an outcome that still gets overlooked. The category winners weren’t the big tech giants or the major studios. In music, Spotify became the default. In premium video, Netflix did the same.
In this episode, we break down how pure-play focus, faster decision-making, and a single retention-driven scoreboard create compounding advantages that big tech’s money and bundling can’t easily copy.
CHAPTERS
01:03 Why Spotify and Netflix Succeeded
06:13 Pure-Play Edge
10:36 Speed & Ownership
14:29 Survivorship Reality
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We just came back from the 68th Grammy Awards. I am joined by Tati Cirisano of MIDiA Research break down what it’s actually like to the experience the Grammys up close from industry events and late-night conversations to crossing paths with artists, executives, and power players shaping the music business. We unpack standout performances, unexpected moments, and how attending the show in person is different from watching at home.
CHAPTERS
01:43 Bad Bunny’s Big Night
05:11 The Grammys In Person vs. On TV
08:36 Lauryn Hill
10:07 Cher on Stage
14:02 Polymarket and the Grammys
20:39 Grammy Week
25:19 Big Changes Next Year
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YouTube is the biggest TV, music, and video platform in the world, but it’s not satisfied. The company still wants to compete for the dollars that go to traditional TV. But can YouTube have it all?
In this episode, we examine YouTube’s push into the living room, from securing the NFL Sunday Ticket to becoming the exclusive home of the Oscars starting in 2029. But as YouTube chases TV legitimacy and higher profit margins, it faces a core tension: how can it get there without losing the creator-driven ethos that made it dominant.
We break down YouTube’s battle for short-form dominance, where YouTube TV fits in, and what its evolving strategy reveals about the future of media, creators, and global attention.
CHAPTERS
02:12 YouTube’s Ambition
04:59 YouTube vs TikTok
10:04 YouTube TV
13:16 Future of YouTube
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Meta’s short-form video surface, Reels, now generates $50 billion in annual run rate. That’s more than some of the largest media companies like Netflix, TikTok, and YouTube’s ad business.
Reels may be less culturally relevant than those companies, and its users spend less time on the platform than others, but it prints money and shows no signs of slowing down.
This episode explores how Meta’s infrastructure made Reels one of the most successful monetization plays in modern tech and what could threaten its momentum next.
CHAPTERS
02:51 Culture vs. Cash
04:30 How Reels Makes Money
06:49 Meta’s Advantage
15:34 Risks Ahead
18:54 What’s Next for Reels
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In this episode, we sit down with Will Page, economist and author of Pivot, for a deep dive on the global economics of music. Using Will’s latest Global Value of Music Copyright Report, we explore streaming economics, global market gaps, AI, and where the music industry’s next phase of growth may come from.
CHAPTERS
02:45 Global Value of Music: 10 Years in Review 11:24 Emerging Music Markets 13:37 Africa’s Music Economy 18:11 Brazil’s Music Market 21:12 The Crocodile Smile 33:18 AI and Music’s Future
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Will Page, former Chief Economist of Spotify and PRS for Music, Author of Pivot
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Prediction markets like Polymarket and Kalshi have had a big year in 2025, but what are they really? Securities? Derivatives? Sportsbooks? They may be all of the above.
Listen to my breakdown on how these markets have evolved over time, and what led to their current rise today. We then dive into the opportunities, risks, and the regulatory challenges that may shape their future.
CHAPTERS
02:54 The Origin of Prediction Markets
06:43 Polymarket, Kalshi, and Modern Prediction Markets
09:16 Regulation and What’s Next
09:31 Bucket A: Policy, Finance, and Economics
13:36 Bucket B: Sports, Entertainment, and Pop Culture
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People say they miss when MTV played music videos, but their viewing habits say otherwise!
We revisited one of our most popular episodes from 2023, but trimmed it down to include the best parts. I’m joined by Zack O’Malley Greenburg to unpack MTV’s rise from a scrappy video platform to a cultural powerhouse. We break down breakthrough moments like Michael Jackson’s “Billie Jean”, the rise of reality TV, the networks influence, rise, fall, and what’s next?
CHAPTERS
01:04 The Birth of MTV 04:45 MTV's Business Model 13:01 Cultural Impact of Influence 21:28 Rise of Reality TV 29:59 MTV ‘s Decline
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We continue our Trapital Summit series with Dan and MiDIA Research’s Tati Cirisano sharing bold predictions from Trapital Summit attendees and sharing their thoughts.
We debate the long-term viability of major record labels, whether a Netflix + Spotify merger make sense (we recorded this before the podcast partnership!), we also discussed whether we’ll return to mass mainstream monoculture, future growth opportunities, and which new opportunities will be unlocked by AI-powered tools.
CHAPTERS
01:47 Future of Major Labels?
03:58 Will Netflix and Spotify Ever Merge?
05:52 A Return to Monoculture?
09:06 Unprecedented Industry Growth?
10:30 Will AI-Driven Labels Be The Future?
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Tatiana Cirisano, VP Music Strategy, MIDiA Research
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This episode is in partnership and collaboration with our friends at The Recording Academy
You’ll hear our deep dive on what we can learn from this years Grammys with our usual analysis and a few select guests including: Panos Panay (President of The Recording Academy), Tati Cirisano (MIDiA Research), Zack O’Malley Greenburg, author and investor.
We discuss the biggest takeaways from the 2026 nominations, the rise of international music, how the voting body has evolved, and the economic lift of a Grammy win.
CHAPTERS
01:41 - Biggest takeaways
05:41 - Tati Cirisano joins us
13:02 - Panos Panay joins us
17:10 - Which past Grammys would have changed
21:52 - The Grammy Bump
33:10 - Zack Greenburg joins us
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GUESTS Panos Panay, President, The Recording Academy
Tatiana Cirisano, VP Music Strategy, MIDiA Research
Zack O’Malley Greenburg, Author, Empire State of Mind
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RESOURCES What is the Economic Value of a GRAMMY in Today’s Industry? - Chartmetric and Will Page