Sex is a living metaphor. It’s how we experience oneness with the person we’ve committed to be in a covenant relationship with, similar to the relationship between Christ and the church. Dr. Juli Slattery joins the Perrys to discuss the importance of seeing sex as an ongoing journey of intimacy, not just a physical act, requiring emotional vulnerability and communication. 

The Perrys’ conversation with Dr. Slattery covers sexual trauma, pornography, entitlement, libido, and purity culture. Everything God created, He designed to be a reflection of himself, and that includes sex. Single, dating, married, widowed, divorced – this episode about sexuality is a helpful and necessary conversation for everyone to learn from.

Connect with Dr. Juli Slattery: https://www.authenticintimacy.com/ 

https://www.instagram.com/authenticintimacy

https://www.authenticintimacy.com/podcast/ 

https://www.authenticintimacy.com/books/ 

Scripture References

• Psalm 37

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Dr. Crawford Loritts joins the Perrys for a conversation about leadership and the qualities that make someone worth following.

True leadership is stewardship and sacrifice. Someone’s ability to lead is in direct proportion to their ability to serve. A good leader has conviction, not just knowledge, with wisdom that's the product of experience, not simply exposure to information. And Dr. Loritts talks about anointing being on the person, not their platform or performance, and how gifts are most developed when you focus on character and godliness.

Check out Dr. Loritts’ book, Leadership as an Identity: The Four Traits of Those Who Wield Lasting Influence: https://www.amazon.com/Leadership-Identity-Traits-Lasting-Influence/dp/080242987

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TRIGGER WARNING: Suicide is briefly discussed in this episode.

Here’s part two of Jackie and Preston’s conversation with Lymari and Tony Navarro. Last week you heard about Tony’s betrayal, and in this episode they discuss the restoration of their marriage. 

Things are incredibly fragile after a spouse’s affair, and the Navarros are honest about that. Lymari says couples need a season of “incubation” if they want to restore their relationship – a time of intentionally surrounding yourself with wise counsel and cutting out people persuading you to leave the marriage (again, if both husband and wife are committed to reconciliation). Tony’s affair was 25 years ago, and five years went by before the Navarros were in a place to support other couples with stories like theirs. Be encouraged – restoration takes time. 

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⁠https://www.lymarinavarro.com/⁠

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“Our story is a warning to some and a hope to others.”

Three years into their marriage, Lymari Navarro got an anonymous phone call from a woman who said, “Your husband is having an affair.” When confronted, Tony told Lymari he had fallen out of love with her, but she chose grace over the Biblical “right” she had to a divorce.

The enemy attacks marriages because it is the most accurate relationship to that of Jesus and the church. Marriage shows off the gospel in a way that nothing else can, and the transformational impact of that undeserved grace is on display in the story you’ll begin to hear in this week’s episode.

Come back next week for part two of the Perrys’ conversation with Lymari and Tony.

The Navarros have benefitted from and speak at FamilyLife’s Weekend to Remember events. Find a location near you: ⁠https://www.familylife.com/weekend-to-remember/

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Scripture references:

• Romans 1

• Titus 2:11-12

Connect with the Navarros:

https://www.lymarinavarro.com/

https://www.tonyandlymarinavarro.com/⁠⁠⁠

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Peter may be one of the most relatable disciples. He’s bold, passionate, sometimes impulsive, and a natural leader, which we read about in Scripture. His story shows how our greatest strengths can become massive stumbling blocks.

From boldly declaring Jesus as the Messiah to denying Him three times, Peter’s life reminds us how quickly we can fall, yet his restoration shows us the heart of God. After your failure, do you run to Jesus? Like we see in Peter’s story, Jesus is patient with us and committed to making us more like Him.

Scripture references:

• Matthew 16:13-222

• Luke 22:33

• Mark 14:26 

• Psalm 139:1-4

• John 21:1-4, 7

• Revelation 2:4-5

• John 21:15-17

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There are three core lies we all believe: “I’m worthless, I’m unlovable, and I’m helpless.” These beliefs can grow into strongholds that influence our thoughts and actions over time.

Jennie Allen joins the Perrys to talk about how the enemy often makes lies like these feel rational and normal, and then we agree with the lies without realizing it. We need God’s Word and the truth of the Gospel to help us fight them. Jennie’s encouragement is that you are not especially broken because you believe lies. She says, “The reason the enemy comes for you is because you’re loved. Because you love God and He loves you, that makes you a target. Don’t let shame enter your story more than it already has.”

Check out Jennie’s new book, “The Lie You Don't Know You Believe”  https://www.amazon.com/Lie-You-Dont-Know-Believe/dp/1400249821

Follow @JennieAllen: https://www.instagram.com/jennieallen/

Scripture references:

• 1 John 1:5-7

• Matthew 4:4-6

• John 14:30

• John 16:33

• Ephesians 6:10-13

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Scripture tells us that the righteous shall live by faith, but what does that actually look like and how can we grow in faith?

In this episode, the Perrys explore how unbelief sits at the root of sin, why spiritual fruit reveals what we truly believe about God, and how maturity in Christ leads to deeper, more specific repentance. Rather than striving for acceptance through good works, faithful obedience flows from the acceptance that is already ours in Jesus.

Scripture references:

• Hebrews 11:1-4

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What began as a childlike love for Jesus was tested when Alena Pitts Franklin's mom died suddenly when Alena was just 14 years old. Alena’s grief challenged and deepened her understanding of who God is, revealing what she truly believed about His character.

Alena has written a devotional called “God Is,” designed for teen girls and young women to understand God’s character – infinite, omnipotent, ever-present, good, loving, and our safe place. Theology isn’t just academic, it’s practical, personal, and essential for teens walking through real life. 

Scripture references:

• Isaiah 41:10

Check out Alena's book, God Is ― A Devotional for Teen Girls & Young Women: 60 Days of Learning Who God Is to Understand Who We Are:

https://www.amazon.com/Devotional-Teen-Girls-Young-Women/dp/B0DT8KRZZK

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Try before you buy? No. An important part of becoming one in marriage is the process of learning one another with each other. Relationships (and sex) take curiosity and communication, and the Perrys talk about how there’s joy in figuring things out together. 

Our bodies matter to God. There’s protection in His design for sex to be experienced within the covenant of marriage, and God is grieved any time we give our bodies away.

A conversation like this can feel condemning, but God is merciful to restore our purity, remove memories of past intimacy, and help us point others to the hope of the Gospel too.

More episodes on this topic: 

• Discipling Kids in a Sexually Broken World With Laurie and Matt Krieg (With The Perrys)

• What We Wish We Knew About Sex (With The Perrys)

• An Honest Conversation about Marriage: Sex, Saying Sorry, & Love (WHOA That’s Good with Sadie & Christian Robertson)

Scripture references:

• 1 Corinthians 6:19

• 1 Corinthians 6:14

• Romans 6:12-13

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Today’s guest, Christine Caine, says that one of the greatest testimonies in our generation is a resilient, enduring faith. No matter what is happening around you, you can continue to flourish when you are rooted and grounded in the love of God.

Christine and the Perrys discuss what it looks like to lean into sanctification rather than run from it, what the imagery of the olive tree in Scripture teaches us, and why followers of Christ can flourish while still grieving the darkness of our world. This life is hard. It doesn’t get easier. But what’s on the other side is worth it: intimacy with Jesus.

Check out Christine's new book, The Faith to Flourish: God’s Design for a Rooted, Resilient, and Fruitful Life – https://www.amazon.com/Faith-Flourish-Design-Resilient-Fruitful/dp/1400255252

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Scripture references:

• Psalm 52:8

• John 15:1-2

  
  

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With The Perrys is back, and the first conversation of 2026 is all about suffering and God’s sovereignty.

Jackie shares the story of being hospitalized last fall, receiving a life-altering diagnosis of Type 1 Diabetes, and how the adjustment in her health has deepened her dependence on the Lord. Jackie and Preston wrestle with the mystery of why God allows suffering and what it means to trust that God is both sovereign and good, even when life hurts. You can be in pain and still have joy. And even when healing doesn’t come, God is still good.

Episodes referenced:

Yana Conner: https://youtu.be/S_XuneYL4d0

Jada Edwards: https://youtu.be/68r-elvUEIg

Toni Collier: https://youtu.be/ta485GMdHLc

Scripture references:

• Job 1:1
• Job 42:2-5
• 1 Peter 4:12-13

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