To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience.

In this Deep Dive, Jackie and Preston revisit conversations they’ve had together (and with some guests, too) about parenting. This episode discusses building simple rhythms of Scripture and prayer in the home, how to help kids develop a faith of their own, and navigating hard conversations without shame.

Today’s Deep Dive features content from four past episodes:

• Family and Parenting with Generations in Mind: A Conversation With The Ortlunds (November 2024) – https://youtu.be/UO8QC-JLj90

• Boy Mom Stuff, Preaching, and Other Gems with Priscilla Shirer (September 2024) – https://youtu.be/EVwZfvh3OfI

• Unforgiveness, Raising Kids in the Last Days, and Proud Preachers: A Q&A Episode (July 2025) – https://youtu.be/g6Ik2mrs6bU

• Discipling Kids in a Sexually Broken World With Laurie and Matt Krieg (October 2025) – https://youtu.be/Q6cFmUZ0zho

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To change things up from a typical re-run, our team has put together “deep dive” episodes on specific topics or themes, pulling key moments from relevant episodes and bringing them together for one comprehensive listening experience. 

In this Deep Dive, Jackie and Preston discuss understanding what the gospel actually is, sharing your faith with wisdom and love, talking to family members who don’t believe, and walking alongside others as they grow in their faith.

Today’s Deep Dive features content from four past episodes:

• How to Give the Gospel: Part 1 (September 2023) – https://youtu.be/0HvbjB-x_o0

• How to Give the Gospel: Part 2 (October 2023) –https://youtu.be/SbP_Tvw2U8U

• How To Tell The Truth (April 2024) – https://youtu.be/qT6NtfpRGck

• How to Make Disciples That Make Disciples (May 2024) – https://youtu.be/PhbesSgcjKY

More resources:

• Apologetics with Preston Perry (YouTube channel) – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5tYCIeywXPsNEhxU3yfZvw

• Preston’s book, “How to Tell the Truth: The Story of How God Saved Me to Win Hearts--Not Just Arguments” – https://www.amazon.com/How-Tell-Truth-Hearts-Not-Arguments-ebook/dp/B0CL7NSWJS

• Jackie’s Bible Study, “Jude: Contending For the Faith in Today’s Culture” – https://www.lifeway.com/en/product-family/jude-bible-study

• Brian Dye on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/visionnehemiah

• Brian Dye’s ministry, Hood Heroes – https://www.legacydisciple.org/hoodheroes

Scripture references:

• 2 Timothy 2:23-26

• 1 Peter 3:15

• Matthew 28:19

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With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past.

Jackie and Preston's relationship has had plenty of twists and turns. From long distance dating to a group trip to the Caribbean, things didn't get off to a smooth start. Jackie broke things off...twice. Preston admits he had a lot to learn about leading well, and together they look back on what they'd do differently.

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With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. 

Jackie and Preston sit down with mentors and friends CD and Melody Fabien to talk about what it really looks like to fight for intimacy in marriage. They unpack some of the habits and rhythms that quietly create distance, the importance of healthy communication, and why it's so easy to start building a case against your spouse instead of pursuing connection.

Whether you're newly married or decades in, this conversation offers practical wisdom for navigating conflict, staying connected, and growing in oneness together.

Connect with Melody and CD Fabien:

https://cdandmelody.com/ 

https://www.instagram.com/melodyfabien 

https://www.instagram.com/cdfabien/ 

https://www.youtube.com/@hangingwiththefabiens 

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With The Perrys is a podcast where biblical truth meets honest conversation. Join Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry as they discuss theology, relationships, parenting, culture, and the everyday realities of following Jesus. With humor, transparency, and a deep commitment to Scripture, each episode aims to point listeners back to Christ, deepen their understanding of God's Word, and encourage faithful obedience in every area of life.

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TRIGGER WARNING: This episode discusses suicidal ideation.

With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past.

Brenna Blain is a wife, mom, and theologian who talks honestly about faith, suffering, and mental health. Brenna shares her story of running from God, eventually finding herself in YWAM, and later navigating a bipolar diagnosis, psych ward stays, and some of the darkest days of her life. Brenna, Jackie, and Preston talk about depression, suffering, and what it looks like to love people well when there aren't easy answers.

Connect with Brenna:

https://www.instagram.com/bunonmyhead/

https://brenna-blain.vercel.app/

Order Brenna’s book, Can I Say That?: How Unsafe Questions Lead Us to the Real God – https://www.amazon.com/Can-Say-That-Unsafe-Questions/dp/1400339944

Listen to Brenna’s podcast, Can I Say That?

https://pod.link/1469288735

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Nobody “deconstructs” from Christianity in a day. Deconstruction is not an immediate decision but a process in which someone questions, dissects and assesses what they believe. But what some people are calling deconstruction is actually heresy and false teaching. There’s a thoughtful and Biblical way to evaluate your faith, so let’s talk about it.

Pastor Jerome Gay, Jr. joins the Perrys to discuss the seven reasons people deconstruct, the importance of critical thinking and apologetics, and the compassion required for walking with someone who is deconstructing.

Connect with Pastor Jerome Gay, Jr.

https://www.instagram.com/jeromegay

https://jeromegayjr.com/

Check out Pastor Jerome’s book, “Church Hurt: Holding the Church Accountable and Helping Hurt People Heal” – https://www.amazon.com/Church-Hurt-Holding-Accountable-Helping/dp/1952602548

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Scripture References:

• Romans 3:15

• Romans 1:22

• 1 John 4:7-8

• John 14:15

• 1 Corinthians 6:18

• Matthew 16:24

• Ephesians 6

• Exodus 21:16

• Genesis 3

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From public scandals to private betrayals that never make the news, experiencing the failure of a leader is both heartbreaking and disorienting. When someone leads a church community or is esteemed as a hero, the fallout of their failure is felt even more. 

Lisa Fields joins Jackie and Preston for an honest conversation about leadership betrayal. They discuss what healthy admiration looks like, how to navigate the grief of failed leadership without becoming cynical, and why restoration doesn't always mean a return to the platform.

Scripture References:

• John 21

• 1 John 3

• Galatians 6:1

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Lisa’s last conversation on With The Perrys, “How to Wrestle With God” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwTKOItm3Wo

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Earlier this month, Jackie found herself at the center of a Threads post that generated a whole lot of conversation. It got her and Preston thinking about the opposition we face as Christians because of a worldview that is confusing to unbelievers.

NOTE: For most of us, the persecution we face is social in nature – that’s different from persecution others face around the world when they risk their lives professing Christ.

As Christians, we’re not supposed to defend ourselves. We’re supposed to preach the gospel and leverage opposition as an opportunity to point others to Jesus. Jackie and Preston discuss a helpful framework for approaching unbelievers, why it’s important to lead with compassion, and the reason why both prayer and patience are required for those conversations.

Scripture References:

• 2 Corinthians 4:4-6

• 1 Peter 3:15-16

• Nehemiah 4:17–18

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A stronghold is an untruth that has lodged itself in our brains and keeps out the knowledge of God. Shame can be a stronghold if we are believing something that is literally not the truth – about God, ourselves, or others. So really, shame and the gospel can’t co-exist peacefully. You could even say that shame is anti-gospel. 

Jackie and Preston discuss how the gospel – the good news that we are forgiven – exposes lies and replaces them with the truth we find in God’s word. We’ve got to meditate on the gospel, read the Bible more than we think about ourselves, and be aware of the way we are helping to remove (or unconsciously adding to) shame in other people’s lives. 

Scripture References:

• Genesis 3:7

• Hebrews 12:2

• "The Soul of Shame: Retelling the Stories We Believe About Ourselves" by Curt Thompson: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0830844333/
• Video from Dan Allender, "The Fall" – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNLFNIfHqLE

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We all go through seasons where we have little desire for God. We don’t really want to pray, and reading our Bible doesn’t sound exciting.
Being honest about not wanting God isn’t unbelief, but it may uncover areas of our life where we’re believing a lie or not dealing with sin. There are so many things in life that compete for our affections, but God will meet us in our insufficiency and invites us to go deeper in our faith.

Preston mentions John’s Piper’s book, “Desiring God” - https://www.amazon.com/Desiring-God-Meditations-Christian-Hedonist/dp/1433595974

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When you hyper-focus on what you think you lack, you aren’t practicing gratitude, and you can become discontent. When you covet what someone else has, you will start to believe that God is withholding something good from you. That means our discontentment is not about our life circumstances but about the state of our hearts. 

Melissa Kruger joins the Perrys to talk about a book Jackie stumbled upon when looking for resources on the topic of covetousness – one that Melissa wrote back in 2012 called “The Envy of Eve: Finding Contentment in a Covetous World.”

Whatever you’re wanting, it will not ultimately be soul-satisfying. We spend our time chasing the contentment we want when it’s available to us simply by abiding with Jesus. 

Connect with Melissa:

• https://www.instagram.com/melissabryankruger 

• 
  https://melissabkruger.com/

Check out Melissa's book, "The Envy of Eve: Finding Contentment in a Covetous World" – https://www.amazon.com/Envy-Eve-Finding-Contentment-Covetous/dp/1845507754

Jackie and Melissa's Ephesians study with Jasmine Holmes: https://www.lifeway.com/en/product/ephesians-bible-study-book-with-video-access-P005843174?

Scripture References

• Genesis 3

• Philippians 4:11-13

• 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

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