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Molly interviews Michael Edison Hayden about his new book, Strange People on the Hill: How Extremism Tore Apart a Small Town. The book is an intimate portrait of what happened in Berkeley Springs, West Virginia after a white nationalist group moved into the castle on the hill.
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James talks to Marian about how the left discourse about the US kidnapping of Maduro has silenced Venezuelan leftists and how the anti Maduro Venezuelan left is navigating the US intervention.
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Garrison investigates a series of frightening claims: that ICE can detain people for ‘looking trans,’ the creation of a transgender public registry, and that an adult gender-affirming healthcare ban is imminent.
Sources:
https://transitics.substack.com/p/trump-administration-opens-the-door
https://rachelnorfolk.me/sites/default/files/2025-02/25_State_11402.pdf
https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/policy-manual-updates/20250402-RecognizingMaleAndFemaleSexes.pdf
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https://www.vera.org/news/ice-is-excluding-data-on-transgender-people-in-detention
https://www.them.us/story/alice-correia-barbosa-ice-arrest-brazil-trans
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/18/trump-mexico-deportation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportations_of_U.S._citizens_in_the_second_Trump_administration#
https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118180/documents/HMKP-119-JU00-20250430-SD003.pdf
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https://bsky.app/profile/tinylesbianrobot.itch.io/post/3mgvbihtidu2m
https://x.com/popbase/status/2034737772792041622?s=46
https://transitics.substack.com/p/tennessee-republicans-advance-bill
https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/movaokabwva/USA_HEALTH_TRANSGENDER_WESTVIRGINIA.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/19/us/rfk-jr-transgender-care-ruling.html
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/4th-circuit-rules-that-states-can
https://bsky.app/profile/davidforbes.bsky.social/post/3mgv5httwss26
https://glaad.org/new-york-times-sign-on-letter-from-lgtbq-allied-leaders-and-organizations
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/fbi-readies-new-war-on-trans-people
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/what-are-nihilist-violent-extremists
https://x.com/ItsYourGov/status/1968802472111083949?s=20
https://oversight-project.revv.co/urge-the-fbi-to-designate-transgender-terrorism
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOykLZJDS2h/
https://www.tiktok.com/@genericartdad/video/7554381061128473886
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Margaret reads you a story about climate refugees, ancestors, and giant spider robots that weave webs of glass
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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.
- Prairieland and Antifa Terrorism
- The Scariest Court in America feat. Steven Monacelli & Dr. Michael Phillips
- Israel’s Attack on Lebanon
- Shadow Banking: The Once and Future Economic Apocalypse
- Executive Disorder: ICE at Airports, New DHS Secretary, Iran Negotiations
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Sources/Links:
Prairieland and Antifa Terrorism
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.410488/gov.uscourts.txnd.410488.367.0.pdf
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.410488/gov.uscourts.txnd.410488.366.0.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/antifa-cell-members-convicted-prairieland-ice-detention-center-shooting
https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/f536e696-072c-4982-bc47-d2dc7f42f766/gov-uscourts-txnd-411041-89-0_1.pdf
https://prairielanddefendants.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Superseding-Indictment-2.pdf
https://www.keranews.org/criminal-justice/2026-03-03/prairieland-ice-detention-center-shooting-trial-defendants-self-defense-third-party-defense-theory-judge-mark-pittman
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-3rd-federal-trial-day-7/
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-6th-federal-trial-day-10/
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-10-federal-trial-day-12/
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-10-federal-trial-day-12/#kyle-shideler-prosecutions-antifa-expert-redirect
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/february-26-federal-trial-day-5/
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/february-27th-federal-trial-day-6/
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-9th-federal-trial-day-11/
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R41333
https://www.keranews.org/criminal-justice/2026-03-10/dario-sanchez-prairieland-ice-shooting
The Scariest Court in America feat. Steven Monacelli & Dr. Michael Phillips
Jack Bass, “John Minor Wisdom, Appeals Court Judge Who Helped to End Segregation, Dies at 93,” New York Times, May 16, 1999, https://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/16/us/john-minor-wisdom-appeals-court-judge-who-helped-to-end-segregation-dies.html
Jonathan Entin, “The Surprising History of the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals,” Governing, January 23, 2024, https://www.governing.com/policy/the-surprising-history-of-the-5th-circuit-court-of-appeals.
Eleanor Klibanoff, “Again and again, U.S. Supreme Court slaps down 5th Circuit,” The Texas Tribune, July 3, 2024, https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/supreme-court-5th-circuit-court-rulings-texas-overturned/
Mattathias Schwartz, “This Federal Judge Is the ‘Tip of the Spear’ of Trump-Era Conservatism,” New York Times, August 9, 2025, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/09/us/judge-ho-trump-border.html
Israel’s Attack on Lebanon
Lebanese news source Megaphone news – https://megaphone.news
Elia at +972mag - https://www.972mag.com/israels-renewed-war-on-lebanon-is-about-more-than-just-hezbollah/
Death toll and displacement numbers in Lebanon - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/22/hezbollah-attack-kills-one-in-north-israel-as-assault-on-lebanon-continues
Nathan Brown on “Israel’s Forever Wars” - https://carnegieendowment.org/middle-east/diwan/2026/03/dominance-degradation-and-debilitation
Land for peace concept - https://archive.unescwa.org/land-peace-principle
Foundation for Defense of Democracy on “Peace for Land” - https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/01/23/peace-for-land-not-land-for-peace/
The book Beware of Small States - https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/david-hirst/beware-of-small-states/9780786744411/?lens=bold-type-books
The Fire These Times podcast - https://thefirethesetimes.com/
Shadow Banking: The Once and Future Economic Apocalypse
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/11/shadow-banking-is-now-a-52-trillion-industry-and-posing-risks.html
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7992100/
https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2013/06/basics.htm
https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/inside-the-cdo-market-that-catalyzed-the-financial-crisis
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48512#ifn146
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26153238
https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/economists/adrian/1306adri_map.pdf
https://tellerwindow.newyorkfed.org/2025/10/17/nbfis-in-focus-the-basics-of-private-credit/
https://libcom.org/article/debt-first-5000-years-david-graeber
Executive Disorder: ICE at Airports, New DHS Secretary, Iran Negotiations
https://x.com/Holden_Culotta/status/2034419794099777620?s=20
https://abcnews.com/Politics/pentagon-plans-national-guard-dc-2029-2-us/story?id=131234530
https://x.com/cspan/status/2036514340896121179?s=20
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036105325326016658?s=20
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036083777164775452
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036253584090685709?s=20
https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5799345-ice-deployment-tsa-criticism/
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/tsa-data-ice-deportation-san-francisco-airport.html
https://punchbowl.news/archive/32326-am/
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116275668825285445
https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2036511652275703864?s=20
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/gregory-bovino-border-patrol.html
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2031414203920077123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0Fh_K2gxDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fW9E2zneDg
https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/18/politics/mullin-confirmation-hearing-senate-paul-dhs
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036510924173963558?s=20
https://archive.vn/Xg3zP#selection-717.162-717.174
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/25/iran-war-us-trump.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/23/trump-iran-war-power-plants-energy-infrastructure-middle-east.html
https://time.com/article/2026/03/25/trump-peace-proposal-us-iran-war-israel-pakistan/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1450zj6n48o
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgrzr9ynpn1o
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/thai-tanker-strait-hormuz-iran-6015671
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The gang discuss Trump’s deployment of ICE to more than a dozen airports, OpenAI shutting down its AI generated video app, continuing negotiations with Iran to end the war, and DHS Sec Mullin’s comments during confirmation hearings.
Sources:
https://x.com/Holden_Culotta/status/2034419794099777620?s=20
https://abcnews.com/Politics/pentagon-plans-national-guard-dc-2029-2-us/story?id=131234530
https://x.com/cspan/status/2036514340896121179?s=20
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036105325326016658?s=20
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036083777164775452
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036253584090685709?s=20
https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5799345-ice-deployment-tsa-criticism/
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/tsa-data-ice-deportation-san-francisco-airport.html
https://punchbowl.news/archive/32326-am/
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116275668825285445
https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2036511652275703864?s=20
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/gregory-bovino-border-patrol.html
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2031414203920077123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0Fh_K2gxDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fW9E2zneDg
https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/18/politics/mullin-confirmation-hearing-senate-paul-dhs
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036510924173963558?s=20
https://archive.vn/Xg3zP#selection-717.162-717.174
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/25/iran-war-us-trump.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/23/trump-iran-war-power-plants-energy-infrastructure-middle-east.html
https://time.com/article/2026/03/25/trump-peace-proposal-us-iran-war-israel-pakistan/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1450zj6n48o
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgrzr9ynpn1o
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/thai-tanker-strait-hormuz-iran-6015671
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Mia teaches Molly what shadow banking is, how it caused the 2008 financial collapse, and how they’re threatening to do it all again
Sources:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/11/shadow-banking-is-now-a-52-trillion-industry-and-posing-risks.html
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7992100/
https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2013/06/basics.htm
https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/inside-the-cdo-market-that-catalyzed-the-financial-crisis
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48512#ifn146
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26153238
https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/economists/adrian/1306adri_map.pdf
https://tellerwindow.newyorkfed.org/2025/10/17/nbfis-in-focus-the-basics-of-private-credit/
https://libcom.org/article/debt-first-5000-years-david-graeber
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Dana El Kurd speaks to Elia Ayoub, UK-based Lebanese-Palestinian historian, anti-authoritarian writer, and host of The Fire These Times. They talk about Israel’s attacks on Lebanon in recent weeks, what this means for the Lebanese people, the impact on Hezbollah, and broader implications for the world.
Sources:
Lebanese news source Megaphone news – https://megaphone.news
Elia at +972mag - https://www.972mag.com/israels-renewed-war-on-lebanon-is-about-more-than-just-hezbollah/
Death toll and displacement numbers in Lebanon - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/22/hezbollah-attack-kills-one-in-north-israel-as-assault-on-lebanon-continues
Nathan Brown on “Israel’s Forever Wars” - https://carnegieendowment.org/middle-east/diwan/2026/03/dominance-degradation-and-debilitation
Land for peace concept - https://archive.unescwa.org/land-peace-principle
Foundation for Defense of Democracy on “Peace for Land” - https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/01/23/peace-for-land-not-land-for-peace/
The book Beware of Small States - https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/david-hirst/beware-of-small-states/9780786744411/?lens=bold-type-books
The Fire These Times podcast - https://thefirethesetimes.com/
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During the Civil Rights Era, the U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans was one of the most liberal courts in the United States. It became an ally of the Civil Rights Movement that knocked down Jim Crow laws across the Deep South. But because of a string of appointments by conservative presidents starting with Ronald Reagan in the 1980s, it has transformed into one of the country’s most reactionary judicial bodies, with rulings that banned drag shows, endangered nationwide access to the so-called “abortion pill,” and threatened to give domestic abusers access to handguns. This episode looks at how the Fifth Circuit turned into the scariest court in America -- and in particular the career of one extremist judge, James Ho, who one day might end up on the United States Supreme Court.
Sources:
Jack Bass, “John Minor Wisdom, Appeals Court Judge Who Helped to End Segregation, Dies at 93,” New York Times, May 16, 1999, https://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/16/us/john-minor-wisdom-appeals-court-judge-who-helped-to-end-segregation-dies.html
Jonathan Entin, “The Surprising History of the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals,” Governing, January 23, 2024, https://www.governing.com/policy/the-surprising-history-of-the-5th-circuit-court-of-appeals.
Eleanor Klibanoff, “Again and again, U.S. Supreme Court slaps down 5th Circuit,” The Texas Tribune, July 3, 2024, https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/supreme-court-5th-circuit-court-rulings-texas-overturned/
Mattathias Schwartz, “This Federal Judge Is the ‘Tip of the Spear’ of Trump-Era Conservatism,” New York Times, August 9, 2025, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/09/us/judge-ho-trump-border.html
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Garrison and Robert discuss a trial stemming from a protest and shooting outside an ICE facility in Prairieland Texas, how the government secured convictions, and the possible precedent this case sets.
Sources:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.410488/gov.uscourts.txnd.410488.367.0.pdf
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.410488/gov.uscourts.txnd.410488.366.0.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/antifa-cell-members-convicted-prairieland-ice-detention-center-shooting
https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/f536e696-072c-4982-bc47-d2dc7f42f766/gov-uscourts-txnd-411041-89-0_1.pdf
https://prairielanddefendants.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/Superseding-Indictment-2.pdf
https://www.keranews.org/criminal-justice/2026-03-03/prairieland-ice-detention-center-shooting-trial-defendants-self-defense-third-party-defense-theory-judge-mark-pittman
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-3rd-federal-trial-day-7/
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-6th-federal-trial-day-10/
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-10-federal-trial-day-12/
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-10-federal-trial-day-12/#kyle-shideler-prosecutions-antifa-expert-redirect
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/february-26-federal-trial-day-5/
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/february-27th-federal-trial-day-6/
https://prairielanddefendants.com/court-notes/march-9th-federal-trial-day-11/
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R41333
https://www.keranews.org/criminal-justice/2026-03-10/dario-sanchez-prairieland-ice-shooting
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Margaret reads you a story about mushrooms, trash, and coming to terms with an imperfect utopia
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