- 29 minutes 50 secondsI Got Sober. I Still Avoid the Phone
Sobriety can take away the drinking, but it does not automatically fix the part of us that avoids uncomfortable things. In this episode, Matt and Steve talk about the everyday tasks that can become weirdly heavy in recovery: making the phone call, going back to the dentist, dealing with money, choosing a contractor, or finally handling the thing we’ve been putting off.
This conversation is about the anxiety that builds when we avoid, and the relief that often comes from taking one small action. Matt and Steve get honest about how avoidance still shows up in sober life, why it can feel worse once you know better, and how breaking the task down can make the next right thing feel possible.
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7 July 2026, 8:00 am - 34 minutes 23 secondsI Thought I'd Appreciate it Later
There’s a way many of us postpone our lives without even realizing it. We tell ourselves we’ll slow down later, appreciate it later, and be happy when things settle down. Then one day we look around and realize the years didn’t slow down while we were waiting.
In this episode, Matt and Steve talk about Father’s Day, graduation season, and the surprising realization that the moments we miss most usually aren’t the big milestones. They’re the ordinary things: rides to school, family dinners, sitting around the house, and hearing your kids call from another room.
Recovery doesn’t make life perfect, and it doesn’t stop time. But it does give us something many of us didn’t have while drinking: the chance to be there while life is happening.
Topics include:
• Why so many of us keep postponing happiness
• The trap of “I’ll appreciate this later” thinking
• Why ordinary moments become the memories we treasure most
• What surprised us about how quickly life moved
• Presence over perfection in recovery and parenting📫 Get more honest conversations about sobriety delivered to your inbox! Subscribe to The Sober Friends Dispatch, our weekly newsletter where we go beyond the podcast to share real strategies for alcohol-free living. Join our community by clicking here.
30 June 2026, 8:00 am - 47 minutes 14 secondsI Was So Tired of Looking Okay — with Brooke Taylor
Brooke Taylor looked successful from the outside. But behind the polished image was alcohol, pressure, and the exhausting feeling that nothing ever felt like enough. In this conversation, she shares what it was like to get sober before she felt ready — and why early sobriety felt more like punishment than freedom.
They also talk about the exhausting work of keeping up appearances, what it took to finally stop, and why getting sober doesn’t always end the search for relief, approval, or feeling like enough.
Brooke is the author of Healing the Success Wound (Hachette, May 2026), which explores what happens when we tie our worth to what we accomplish instead of who we are.
Connect with Brooke:
Website: Brooke Taylor Coaching
Instagram: @brookevtaylor
TikTok: @brooketaylorcareercoach
LinkedIn: Brooke Taylor
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23 June 2026, 8:00 am - 30 minutes 43 secondsMost of My Anxiety Lived in the Future
Most of us spend a lot of time worrying about things that haven't happened yet. We replay conversations, predict outcomes, and try to solve problems that may never arrive. In recovery, that kind of future-tripping can feel overwhelming because alcohol is no longer there to quiet the noise.
In this episode, Matt and Steve talk about the connection between anxiety and control. They explore why the need to know how everything will turn out often creates more stress, not less, and how focusing on what's directly in front of us can bring some relief. Whether you're newly sober or have years of recovery behind you, this conversation is a reminder that most of life's problems can only be handled one step at a time.
Topics include:
• Future-tripping and anxiety
• The illusion of control
• Why uncertainty feels so uncomfortable
• Recovery beyond alcohol
• Staying present when your mind wants to race ahead📫 Get more honest conversations about sobriety delivered to your inbox! Subscribe to The Sober Friends Dispatch, our weekly newsletter where we go beyond the podcast to share real strategies for alcohol-free living. Join our community by clicking here.
9 June 2026, 8:00 am - 36 minutes 23 secondsThe Disease Model Doesn’t Let Me Off the Hook
In this episode, Matt and Steve talk about the disease model of alcoholism—not as an excuse, but as a way to understand why alcohol affected them differently than it does other people. The conversation starts with the idea of “getting better and leaving,” and turns into a deeper look at why staying connected still matters, even after years of sobriety.
They discuss personal responsibility, AA, the “built-in forgetter,” and the strange reality of still noticing alcohol in ways other people do not. The disease model may explain the problem, but it does not remove the responsibility to stay honest, stay connected, and keep helping the next person who walks in.
Click here to watch the full video referenced with Charlie Sheen. I don't have the link to the original podcast.
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2 June 2026, 8:00 am - 30 minutes 30 secondsThe Voice Didn’t Go Away When I Got Sober
Getting sober does not automatically make the voice in your head disappear. In this episode, Matt and Steve talk about the part of the mind that used to minimize drinking — you’re not that bad, other people drink more, you’re overreacting — and how that same voice can show up later in sobriety as doubt, fear, or the feeling that you don’t deserve what you have.
Matt shares how anxiety led his brain to start filling in the blanks with stories: that his work did not matter, that the podcast was vanity, that he was somehow a fraud. The conversation gets into why those thoughts can feel so convincing, why we are often poor judges of ourselves in isolation, and why recovery requires learning how to question the voice instead of automatically believing it.
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26 May 2026, 8:00 am - 33 minutes 58 secondsLearn to Sit With Yourself
There’s a weird part of sobriety where nothing is technically wrong, but you still feel uncomfortable in your own skin. In this episode, Matt and Steve talk about what happens when alcohol is gone, but the restlessness, anxiety, expectations, and urge to escape are still there.
They get into why discomfort does not always mean something is wrong, how ordinary life can still feel hard sober, and why learning to sit with yourself is not the same as isolating or forcing yourself to tough it out. Sometimes the work is naming the feeling, asking what you are trying to escape, and doing the next small right thing instead of running.
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19 May 2026, 8:00 am - 30 minutes 58 secondsStop Arguing With Reality for One Day
In this episode, Matt and Steve talk about acceptance in sobriety — not as approval, not as giving up, and not as pretending everything is fine. It is about getting honest with reality instead of wasting energy trying to control people, outcomes, feelings, or the past.
They dig into why acceptance can feel so uncomfortable for newcomers, especially when it sounds passive or weak. The conversation gets into control, resentment, asking for help, and the simple but difficult practice of seeing what is actually in front of you before deciding what to do next.
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10 May 2026, 3:00 pm - 32 minutes 54 secondsSober Twelve Years. Still Avoiding the Phone
Matt and Steve talk about what happens when old alcoholic thinking shows up without the alcohol. Matt shares what it has been like tapering off medication, including the dark, isolating feeling that reaching out would not help — even when he knows connection usually does.
They also get into emotional overreactions, escape fantasies, family stress, broken phones, sponsor avoidance, and the uncomfortable truth that recovery still asks for action long after the drinking stops. This episode is about those moments when you know what the program suggests, but doing it feels like the hardest possible thing.
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5 May 2026, 8:00 am - 33 minutes 5 secondsA 13-Year-Old Knew He’d Been Drinking
A 13-year-old goes to Six Flags and comes back with a story—she could tell right away that another parent had been drinking. No one told her. She just knew.
That moment turns into a bigger conversation about what kids actually pick up on, how early they figure things out, and what it means when you think you’re hiding your drinking—but you’re not. Matt and Steve talk about being that parent, how relationships with kids quietly slip over time, and what changes when you’re finally present and sober.
- What kids notice (even when you think they don’t)
- Drinking to “feel normal” in everyday situations
- How connection with your kids slowly erodes
- Why sobriety changes more than just your drinking
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28 April 2026, 8:00 am - 32 minutes 58 secondsWhy You Know What to Do… But Still Don’t Do It
Ever know exactly what you should do… and still can’t make yourself do it?
That’s what this episode is about.
This week, Matt and Steve talk about the kind of overwhelm that doesn’t show up as a crisis — it just builds quietly until everything feels heavy. The to-do list grows, your brain won’t shut off, and even simple things start to feel harder than they should.
They get into:
- Why there’s a gap between knowing and doing
- How “keep it simple” can help — or become a trap
- What it actually looks like to pull yourself back when you feel stuck
And why sometimes the smallest action — even when you don’t feel like it — is what breaks the cycle.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, overwhelmed, or like you’re not doing what you “should” be doing, this one will hit.
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